RE: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving

2012-05-22 Thread Mark . Alman
Thanks, Sheryl! 

 

OK, I'll start:

 

Since I'm not able to visit the moon, caving is the closest I'll ever
get to visiting an alien landscape and having an otherworldly
experience.

 

Your turn!

 

 

Mark

 

 

 

From: Sheryl Rieck [mailto:sheryl.ri...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 8:13 AM
To: TexasCavers
Subject: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving

 

I started caving a bit later in life than many people and promptly
became too busy to cave even though I had fallen in love with the peace
and beauty of the caves I had visited. I have not been in a cave in 4
years, but almost no day goes by that I don't think about caving. It is
my choices that have kept me from caving. That doesn't keep from missing
it any less.  

 

As I was wading through the massive number of issues associated with a
go-live (the ultimate goal of my projects) that was in too short a time
span and with too little information, I found myself thinking yet again
of caving and how I would so much prefer to be underground with a bunch
of fun folks than getting my butt kicked by issues.  About this same
time, the emails from Mark began. 

 

I agreed with the assessment of the publications becoming very
scientific. I'm an accountant. I have no scientific knowledge in the
realm of speleological studies. I don't read those articles because they
make my eyes roll back in my head and that just makes my eyes hurt. So,
in an effort to give Mark an article and to give us laypeople something
to read, I came up with 10 reasons I would rather be caving. I thought
maybe you could send Mark YOUR 10 reasons you would rather be caving.
Knowing the Texas caving community as I do, I think that the articles
would be fascinating.

 

Here are my 10:

 

1.   The snakes are only at the entrance of a cave and look like
snakes.

2.   A traffic jam is just a good way to rest in a cave.

3.   The people who annoy me most would never be able to find me in
a cave.

4.   My laptop cannot get a signal in a cave. That is my story and I
am sticking to it no matter what.

5.   My cell phone cannot get a signal in a cave. Ditto sticking to
it.

6.   Saying you have been mapping a cave sounds more interesting
than saying you have been mapping a chart of accounts.

7.   Mapping a cave IS more interesting than mapping a chart of
accounts.

8.   When I am in the dark in a cave that is the way it is supposed
to be.

9.   I have met some interesting, entertaining, and/or incredibly
odd people on caving trips and that is just fun.

10.   I am usually not the strangest person in the group.

 

I cannot wait to see what others' 10 reasons are that they would rather
be caving. I have read some truly amazing words from so many of you. You
are verbose, imaginative, and clever people and I think your 10 reasons
would be worth a read.

 

Disclaimer: Not all submissions will be published and you know why.



Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving

2012-05-22 Thread Lyndon Tiu
Sounds like a good title for a TC article.

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Sheryl Rieck sheryl.ri...@gmail.com wrote:
 I started caving a bit later in life than many people and promptly became
 too busy to cave even though I had fallen in love with the peace and beauty
 of the caves I had visited. I have not been in a cave in 4 years, but almost
 no day goes by that I don’t think about caving. It is my choices that have
 kept me from caving. That doesn’t keep from missing it any less.



 As I was wading through the massive number of issues associated with a
 go-live (the ultimate goal of my projects) that was in too short a time span
 and with too little information, I found myself thinking yet again of caving
 and how I would so much prefer to be underground with a bunch of fun folks
 than getting my butt kicked by issues.  About this same time, the emails
 from Mark began.



 I agreed with the assessment of the publications becoming very scientific.
 I’m an accountant. I have no scientific knowledge in the realm of
 speleological studies. I don’t read those articles because they make my eyes
 roll back in my head and that just makes my eyes hurt. So, in an effort to
 give Mark an article and to give us laypeople something to read, I came up
 with 10 reasons I would rather be caving. I thought maybe you could send
 Mark YOUR 10 reasons you would rather be caving. Knowing the Texas caving
 community as I do, I think that the articles would be fascinating.



 Here are my 10:



 1.   The snakes are only at the entrance of a cave and look like snakes.

 2.   A traffic jam is just a good way to rest in a cave.

 3.   The people who annoy me most would never be able to find me in a
 cave.

 4.   My laptop cannot get a signal in a cave. That is my story and I am
 sticking to it no matter what.

 5.   My cell phone cannot get a signal in a cave. Ditto sticking to it.

 6.   Saying you have been mapping a cave sounds more interesting than
 saying you have been mapping a chart of accounts.

 7.   Mapping a cave IS more interesting than mapping a chart of
 accounts.

 8.   When I am in the dark in a cave that is the way it is supposed to
 be.

 9.   I have met some interesting, entertaining, and/or incredibly odd
 people on caving trips and that is just fun.

 10.   I am usually not the strangest person in the group.



 I cannot wait to see what others’ 10 reasons are that they would rather be
 caving. I have read some truly amazing words from so many of you. You are
 verbose, imaginative, and clever people and I think your 10 reasons would be
 worth a read.



 Disclaimer: Not all submissions will be published and you know why.



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RE: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving

2012-05-22 Thread Mark . Alman
Damn! You figured out Sheryl and my ulterior motive, Lyndon!

As Sheryl stated, please be aware that your responses can/will be used
in the next issue of The TEXAS CAVER.

If you have no problem with this, post away!


Thanks,

Mark



-Original Message-
From: lyndon@gmail.com [mailto:lyndon@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
Lyndon Tiu
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 8:19 AM
To: Sheryl Rieck
Cc: TexasCavers
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving

Sounds like a good title for a TC article.

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Sheryl Rieck sheryl.ri...@gmail.com
wrote:
 I started caving a bit later in life than many people and promptly
became
 too busy to cave even though I had fallen in love with the peace and
beauty
 of the caves I had visited. I have not been in a cave in 4 years, but
almost
 no day goes by that I don't think about caving. It is my choices that
have
 kept me from caving. That doesn't keep from missing it any less.



 As I was wading through the massive number of issues associated with a
 go-live (the ultimate goal of my projects) that was in too short a
time span
 and with too little information, I found myself thinking yet again of
caving
 and how I would so much prefer to be underground with a bunch of fun
folks
 than getting my butt kicked by issues.  About this same time, the
emails
 from Mark began.



 I agreed with the assessment of the publications becoming very
scientific.
 I'm an accountant. I have no scientific knowledge in the realm of
 speleological studies. I don't read those articles because they make
my eyes
 roll back in my head and that just makes my eyes hurt. So, in an
effort to
 give Mark an article and to give us laypeople something to read, I
came up
 with 10 reasons I would rather be caving. I thought maybe you could
send
 Mark YOUR 10 reasons you would rather be caving. Knowing the Texas
caving
 community as I do, I think that the articles would be fascinating.



 Here are my 10:



 1.   The snakes are only at the entrance of a cave and look like
snakes.

 2.   A traffic jam is just a good way to rest in a cave.

 3.   The people who annoy me most would never be able to find me
in a
 cave.

 4.   My laptop cannot get a signal in a cave. That is my story and
I am
 sticking to it no matter what.

 5.   My cell phone cannot get a signal in a cave. Ditto sticking
to it.

 6.   Saying you have been mapping a cave sounds more interesting
than
 saying you have been mapping a chart of accounts.

 7.   Mapping a cave IS more interesting than mapping a chart of
 accounts.

 8.   When I am in the dark in a cave that is the way it is
supposed to
 be.

 9.   I have met some interesting, entertaining, and/or incredibly
odd
 people on caving trips and that is just fun.

 10.   I am usually not the strangest person in the group.



 I cannot wait to see what others' 10 reasons are that they would
rather be
 caving. I have read some truly amazing words from so many of you. You
are
 verbose, imaginative, and clever people and I think your 10 reasons
would be
 worth a read.



 Disclaimer: Not all submissions will be published and you know why.



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Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving

2012-05-22 Thread Mallory Mayeux
Mark,

You took my best reason!

Here goes my list: (both playful and serious.)

The smell of cave dirt  brings back the BEST memories. (I began caving in
college, at Mammoth Cave, the first time I was ever really away from home.
When I take a deep breath underground, suddenly I'm 19 again, tasting my
first freedom, and life's possibilities are endless.)

There is nothing like a 12+ hour cave trip to run your mind blank, and just
exist in the moment.

Caving gear is my indulgence. Ordering a shiny pantin, a thick coil of new
11 mm rope, a colorful new Rutherford pack, chunky boots...bliss! I love
them all and can't wait to put them to good use!

The fear you feel when you're stepping off the side of a tall pit makes you
feel alive.

If society collapses I know ALL the best hideouts.

The people. Cavers have been my best friends, significant others,
inspirations. And of course, some of the weirdest people that I've ever
met! Not a day goes by that I don't thank God and whatever stars aligned
that I fell into caving and became one of you wackos. :)

The couch at Deep/Punkin is the comfiest one I've ever slept on.

Getting to cave entrances puts my RAV4's 4x4 capabilities to good use.
Probably the ONLY time I get to use that feature.

If I go caving, I usually go west. And when I go west, sometimes I see
cactus. And cactus is really cool.

I look damn good in a wetsuit. Honey Creek Tank Haul, baby!

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:22 AM, mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote:

 **

 Damn! You figured out Sheryl and my ulterior motive, Lyndon!

 As Sheryl stated, please be aware that your responses can/will be used in
 the next issue of* The TEXAS CAVER.*

 If you have no problem with this, post away!

 Thanks,

 Mark

 -Original Message-
 From: lyndon@gmail.com [mailto:lyndon@gmail.comlyndon@gmail.com]
 On Behalf Of Lyndon Tiu
 Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 8:19 AM
 To: Sheryl Rieck
 Cc: TexasCavers
 Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving

 Sounds like a good title for a TC article.

 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Sheryl Rieck sheryl.ri...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  I started caving a bit later in life than many people and promptly became

  too busy to cave even though I had fallen in love with the peace and
 beauty

  of the caves I had visited. I have not been in a cave in 4 years, but
 almost

  no day goes by that I don’t think about caving. It is my choices that
 have

  kept me from caving. That doesn’t keep from missing it any less.

 

 

 

  As I was wading through the massive number of issues associated with a

  go-live (the ultimate goal of my projects) that was in too short a time
 span

  and with too little information, I found myself thinking yet again of
 caving

  and how I would so much prefer to be underground with a bunch of fun
 folks

  than getting my butt kicked by issues.  About this same time, the emails

  from Mark began.

 

 

 

  I agreed with the assessment of the publications becoming very
 scientific.

  I’m an accountant. I have no scientific knowledge in the realm of

  speleological studies. I don’t read those articles because they make my
 eyes

  roll back in my head and that just makes my eyes hurt. So, in an effort
 to

  give Mark an article and to give us laypeople something to read, I came
 up

  with 10 reasons I would rather be caving. I thought maybe you could send

  Mark YOUR 10 reasons you would rather be caving. Knowing the Texas caving

  community as I do, I think that the articles would be fascinating.

 

 

 

  Here are my 10:

 

 

 

  1.   The snakes are only at the entrance of a cave and look like
 snakes.

 

  2.   A traffic jam is just a good way to rest in a cave.

 

  3.   The people who annoy me most would never be able to find me in a

  cave.

 

  4.   My laptop cannot get a signal in a cave. That is my story and I
 am

  sticking to it no matter what.

 

  5.   My cell phone cannot get a signal in a cave. Ditto sticking to
 it.

 

  6.   Saying you have been mapping a cave sounds more interesting than

  saying you have been mapping a chart of accounts.

 

  7.   Mapping a cave IS more interesting than mapping a chart of

  accounts.

 

  8.   When I am in the dark in a cave that is the way it is supposed
 to

  be.

 

  9.   I have met some interesting, entertaining, and/or incredibly odd

  people on caving trips and that is just fun.

 

  10.   I am usually not the strangest person in the group.

 

 

 

  I cannot wait to see what others’ 10 reasons are that they would rather
 be

  caving. I have read some truly amazing words from so many of you. You are

  verbose, imaginative, and clever people and I think your 10 reasons
 would be

  worth a read.

 

 

 

  Disclaimer: Not all submissions will be published and you know why.


 --

 Lyndon Tiu

 -

 Visit our website: http

RE: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving

2012-05-22 Thread Fritz Holt
Mallory,

Cool recollections from a gung ho caver who looks damn good in a wetsuit. Most 
of us have been there and experienced the excitement of entering a cave, old or 
new. For most of us the best part of caving is the camaraderie with fellow 
caver friends.
KEEP ON CAVING!

Fritz, an old spelunker


From: Mallory Mayeux [mailto:mmay...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 9:10 AM
To: mark.al...@l-3com.com
Cc: Lyndon Tiu; Sheryl Rieck; TexasCavers
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving

Mark,

You took my best reason!

Here goes my list: (both playful and serious.)

The smell of cave dirt  brings back the BEST memories. (I began caving in 
college, at Mammoth Cave, the first time I was ever really away from home. When 
I take a deep breath underground, suddenly I'm 19 again, tasting my first 
freedom, and life's possibilities are endless.)

There is nothing like a 12+ hour cave trip to run your mind blank, and just 
exist in the moment.

Caving gear is my indulgence. Ordering a shiny pantin, a thick coil of new 11 
mm rope, a colorful new Rutherford pack, chunky boots...bliss! I love them all 
and can't wait to put them to good use!

The fear you feel when you're stepping off the side of a tall pit makes you 
feel alive.

If society collapses I know ALL the best hideouts.

The people. Cavers have been my best friends, significant others, inspirations. 
And of course, some of the weirdest people that I've ever
met! Not a day goes by that I don't thank God and whatever stars aligned that I 
fell into caving and became one of you wackos. :)

The couch at Deep/Punkin is the comfiest one I've ever slept on.

Getting to cave entrances puts my RAV4's 4x4 capabilities to good use. Probably 
the ONLY time I get to use that feature.

If I go caving, I usually go west. And when I go west, sometimes I see cactus. 
And cactus is really cool.

I look damn good in a wetsuit. Honey Creek Tank Haul, baby!

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:22 AM, 
mark.al...@l-3com.commailto:mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote:

Damn! You figured out Sheryl and my ulterior motive, Lyndon!

As Sheryl stated, please be aware that your responses can/will be used in the 
next issue of The TEXAS CAVER.

If you have no problem with this, post away!


Thanks,

Mark

-Original Message-
From: lyndon@gmail.commailto:lyndon@gmail.com 
[mailto:lyndon@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Lyndon Tiu
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 8:19 AM
To: Sheryl Rieck
Cc: TexasCavers
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving

Sounds like a good title for a TC article.

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Sheryl Rieck 
sheryl.ri...@gmail.commailto:sheryl.ri...@gmail.com wrote:

 I started caving a bit later in life than many people and promptly became

 too busy to cave even though I had fallen in love with the peace and beauty

 of the caves I had visited. I have not been in a cave in 4 years, but almost

 no day goes by that I don't think about caving. It is my choices that have

 kept me from caving. That doesn't keep from missing it any less.







 As I was wading through the massive number of issues associated with a

 go-live (the ultimate goal of my projects) that was in too short a time span

 and with too little information, I found myself thinking yet again of caving

 and how I would so much prefer to be underground with a bunch of fun folks

 than getting my butt kicked by issues.  About this same time, the emails

 from Mark began.







 I agreed with the assessment of the publications becoming very scientific.

 I'm an accountant. I have no scientific knowledge in the realm of

 speleological studies. I don't read those articles because they make my eyes

 roll back in my head and that just makes my eyes hurt. So, in an effort to

 give Mark an article and to give us laypeople something to read, I came up

 with 10 reasons I would rather be caving. I thought maybe you could send

 Mark YOUR 10 reasons you would rather be caving. Knowing the Texas caving

 community as I do, I think that the articles would be fascinating.







 Here are my 10:







 1.   The snakes are only at the entrance of a cave and look like snakes.



 2.   A traffic jam is just a good way to rest in a cave.



 3.   The people who annoy me most would never be able to find me in a

 cave.



 4.   My laptop cannot get a signal in a cave. That is my story and I am

 sticking to it no matter what.



 5.   My cell phone cannot get a signal in a cave. Ditto sticking to it.



 6.   Saying you have been mapping a cave sounds more interesting than

 saying you have been mapping a chart of accounts.



 7.   Mapping a cave IS more interesting than mapping a chart of

 accounts.



 8.   When I am in the dark in a cave that is the way it is supposed to

 be.



 9.   I have met some interesting, entertaining, and/or incredibly odd

 people on caving trips and that is just fun

Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving

2012-05-22 Thread Lyndon Tiu
Cavers are good people.
I get to go camping for cheap surrrounded by good people.
I get to do something fun and exciting with good people.
I get good food prepared by good people.
I get to hang with beautiful good people.

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:22 AM,  mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote:
 Damn! You figured out Sheryl and my ulterior motive, Lyndon!

 As Sheryl stated, please be aware that your responses can/will be used in
 the next issue of The TEXAS CAVER.

 If you have no problem with this, post away!


 Thanks,

 Mark

 -Original Message-
 From: lyndon@gmail.com [mailto:lyndon@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Lyndon
 Tiu
 Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 8:19 AM
 To: Sheryl Rieck
 Cc: TexasCavers
 Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving

 Sounds like a good title for a TC article.

 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Sheryl Rieck sheryl.ri...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I started caving a bit later in life than many people and promptly became

 too busy to cave even though I had fallen in love with the peace and
 beauty

 of the caves I had visited. I have not been in a cave in 4 years, but
 almost

 no day goes by that I don’t think about caving. It is my choices that have

 kept me from caving. That doesn’t keep from missing it any less.







 As I was wading through the massive number of issues associated with a

 go-live (the ultimate goal of my projects) that was in too short a time
 span

 and with too little information, I found myself thinking yet again of
 caving

 and how I would so much prefer to be underground with a bunch of fun folks

 than getting my butt kicked by issues.  About this same time, the emails

 from Mark began.







 I agreed with the assessment of the publications becoming very scientific.

 I’m an accountant. I have no scientific knowledge in the realm of

 speleological studies. I don’t read those articles because they make my
 eyes

 roll back in my head and that just makes my eyes hurt. So, in an effort to

 give Mark an article and to give us laypeople something to read, I came up

 with 10 reasons I would rather be caving. I thought maybe you could send

 Mark YOUR 10 reasons you would rather be caving. Knowing the Texas caving

 community as I do, I think that the articles would be fascinating.







 Here are my 10:







 1.   The snakes are only at the entrance of a cave and look like
 snakes.



 2.   A traffic jam is just a good way to rest in a cave.



 3.   The people who annoy me most would never be able to find me in a

 cave.



 4.   My laptop cannot get a signal in a cave. That is my story and I
 am

 sticking to it no matter what.



 5.   My cell phone cannot get a signal in a cave. Ditto sticking to
 it.



 6.   Saying you have been mapping a cave sounds more interesting than

 saying you have been mapping a chart of accounts.



 7.   Mapping a cave IS more interesting than mapping a chart of

 accounts.



 8.   When I am in the dark in a cave that is the way it is supposed to

 be.



 9.   I have met some interesting, entertaining, and/or incredibly odd

 people on caving trips and that is just fun.



 10.   I am usually not the strangest person in the group.







 I cannot wait to see what others’ 10 reasons are that they would rather be

 caving. I have read some truly amazing words from so many of you. You are

 verbose, imaginative, and clever people and I think your 10 reasons would
 be

 worth a read.







 Disclaimer: Not all submissions will be published and you know why.



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Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving

2012-05-22 Thread Nico Escamilla
That's only four Lyndon, come on.. you can do better than that.

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Lyndon Tiu l...@alumni.sfu.ca wrote:

 Cavers are good people.
 I get to go camping for cheap surrrounded by good people.
 I get to do something fun and exciting with good people.
 I get good food prepared by good people.
 I get to hang with beautiful good people.

 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:22 AM,  mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote:
  Damn! You figured out Sheryl and my ulterior motive, Lyndon!
 
  As Sheryl stated, please be aware that your responses can/will be used in
  the next issue of The TEXAS CAVER.
 
  If you have no problem with this, post away!
 
 
  Thanks,
 
  Mark
 
  -Original Message-
  From: lyndon@gmail.com [mailto:lyndon@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
 Lyndon
  Tiu
  Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 8:19 AM
  To: Sheryl Rieck
  Cc: TexasCavers
  Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving
 
  Sounds like a good title for a TC article.
 
  On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Sheryl Rieck sheryl.ri...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  I started caving a bit later in life than many people and promptly
 became
 
  too busy to cave even though I had fallen in love with the peace and
  beauty
 
  of the caves I had visited. I have not been in a cave in 4 years, but
  almost
 
  no day goes by that I don’t think about caving. It is my choices that
 have
 
  kept me from caving. That doesn’t keep from missing it any less.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  As I was wading through the massive number of issues associated with a
 
  go-live (the ultimate goal of my projects) that was in too short a time
  span
 
  and with too little information, I found myself thinking yet again of
  caving
 
  and how I would so much prefer to be underground with a bunch of fun
 folks
 
  than getting my butt kicked by issues.  About this same time, the emails
 
  from Mark began.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  I agreed with the assessment of the publications becoming very
 scientific.
 
  I’m an accountant. I have no scientific knowledge in the realm of
 
  speleological studies. I don’t read those articles because they make my
  eyes
 
  roll back in my head and that just makes my eyes hurt. So, in an effort
 to
 
  give Mark an article and to give us laypeople something to read, I came
 up
 
  with 10 reasons I would rather be caving. I thought maybe you could send
 
  Mark YOUR 10 reasons you would rather be caving. Knowing the Texas
 caving
 
  community as I do, I think that the articles would be fascinating.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Here are my 10:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  1.   The snakes are only at the entrance of a cave and look like
  snakes.
 
 
 
  2.   A traffic jam is just a good way to rest in a cave.
 
 
 
  3.   The people who annoy me most would never be able to find me in
 a
 
  cave.
 
 
 
  4.   My laptop cannot get a signal in a cave. That is my story and I
  am
 
  sticking to it no matter what.
 
 
 
  5.   My cell phone cannot get a signal in a cave. Ditto sticking to
  it.
 
 
 
  6.   Saying you have been mapping a cave sounds more interesting
 than
 
  saying you have been mapping a chart of accounts.
 
 
 
  7.   Mapping a cave IS more interesting than mapping a chart of
 
  accounts.
 
 
 
  8.   When I am in the dark in a cave that is the way it is supposed
 to
 
  be.
 
 
 
  9.   I have met some interesting, entertaining, and/or incredibly
 odd
 
  people on caving trips and that is just fun.
 
 
 
  10.   I am usually not the strangest person in the group.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  I cannot wait to see what others’ 10 reasons are that they would rather
 be
 
  caving. I have read some truly amazing words from so many of you. You
 are
 
  verbose, imaginative, and clever people and I think your 10 reasons
 would
  be
 
  worth a read.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Disclaimer: Not all submissions will be published and you know why.
 
 
 
  --
 
  Lyndon Tiu
 
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Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving

2012-05-22 Thread Nico Escamilla
Nah, dont ask me. I do it for selfish non scientific purposes, bragging
rights, among other things.

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Mallory Mayeux mmay...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey Nico, where's your list? 4 reasons is better than zero! :)


 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Nico Escamilla pitboun...@gmail.comwrote:

 That's only four Lyndon, come on.. you can do better than that.


 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Lyndon Tiu l...@alumni.sfu.ca wrote:

 Cavers are good people.
 I get to go camping for cheap surrrounded by good people.
 I get to do something fun and exciting with good people.
 I get good food prepared by good people.
 I get to hang with beautiful good people.

 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:22 AM,  mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote:
  Damn! You figured out Sheryl and my ulterior motive, Lyndon!
 
  As Sheryl stated, please be aware that your responses can/will be used
 in
  the next issue of The TEXAS CAVER.
 
  If you have no problem with this, post away!
 
 
  Thanks,
 
  Mark
 
  -Original Message-
  From: lyndon@gmail.com [mailto:lyndon@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
 Lyndon
  Tiu
  Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 8:19 AM
  To: Sheryl Rieck
  Cc: TexasCavers
  Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving
 
  Sounds like a good title for a TC article.
 
  On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Sheryl Rieck sheryl.ri...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  I started caving a bit later in life than many people and promptly
 became
 
  too busy to cave even though I had fallen in love with the peace and
  beauty
 
  of the caves I had visited. I have not been in a cave in 4 years, but
  almost
 
  no day goes by that I don’t think about caving. It is my choices that
 have
 
  kept me from caving. That doesn’t keep from missing it any less.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  As I was wading through the massive number of issues associated with a
 
  go-live (the ultimate goal of my projects) that was in too short a
 time
  span
 
  and with too little information, I found myself thinking yet again of
  caving
 
  and how I would so much prefer to be underground with a bunch of fun
 folks
 
  than getting my butt kicked by issues.  About this same time, the
 emails
 
  from Mark began.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  I agreed with the assessment of the publications becoming very
 scientific.
 
  I’m an accountant. I have no scientific knowledge in the realm of
 
  speleological studies. I don’t read those articles because they make
 my
  eyes
 
  roll back in my head and that just makes my eyes hurt. So, in an
 effort to
 
  give Mark an article and to give us laypeople something to read, I
 came up
 
  with 10 reasons I would rather be caving. I thought maybe you could
 send
 
  Mark YOUR 10 reasons you would rather be caving. Knowing the Texas
 caving
 
  community as I do, I think that the articles would be fascinating.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Here are my 10:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  1.   The snakes are only at the entrance of a cave and look like
  snakes.
 
 
 
  2.   A traffic jam is just a good way to rest in a cave.
 
 
 
  3.   The people who annoy me most would never be able to find me
 in a
 
  cave.
 
 
 
  4.   My laptop cannot get a signal in a cave. That is my story
 and I
  am
 
  sticking to it no matter what.
 
 
 
  5.   My cell phone cannot get a signal in a cave. Ditto sticking
 to
  it.
 
 
 
  6.   Saying you have been mapping a cave sounds more interesting
 than
 
  saying you have been mapping a chart of accounts.
 
 
 
  7.   Mapping a cave IS more interesting than mapping a chart of
 
  accounts.
 
 
 
  8.   When I am in the dark in a cave that is the way it is
 supposed to
 
  be.
 
 
 
  9.   I have met some interesting, entertaining, and/or incredibly
 odd
 
  people on caving trips and that is just fun.
 
 
 
  10.   I am usually not the strangest person in the group.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  I cannot wait to see what others’ 10 reasons are that they would
 rather be
 
  caving. I have read some truly amazing words from so many of you. You
 are
 
  verbose, imaginative, and clever people and I think your 10 reasons
 would
  be
 
  worth a read.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Disclaimer: Not all submissions will be published and you know why.
 
 
 
  --
 
  Lyndon Tiu
 
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Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving

2012-05-22 Thread Andy Gluesenkamp
He's not the only one!  
In fact, I think you we on that trip, Julia.

Andrew G. Gluesenkamp, Ph.D.

700 Billie Brooks Drive

Driftwood, Texas 78619

(512) 799-1095

a...@gluesenkamp.com

--- On Tue, 5/22/12, germa...@aol.com germa...@aol.com wrote:

From: germa...@aol.com germa...@aol.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving
To: pitboun...@gmail.com, l...@alumni.sfu.ca
Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Tuesday, May 22, 2012, 9:40 AM

He could have at least mentioned he met his wife while caving ;)










-Original Message-


From: Nico Escamilla pitboun...@gmail.com


To: Lyndon Tiu l...@alumni.sfu.ca


Cc: TexasCavers texascavers@texascavers.com


Sent: Tue, May 22, 2012 9:36 am


Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving















That's only four Lyndon, come on.. you can do better than that.







On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Lyndon Tiu l...@alumni.sfu.ca wrote:




Cavers are good people.



I get to go camping for cheap surrrounded by good people.



I get to do something fun and exciting with good people.



I get good food prepared by good people.



I get to hang with beautiful good people.











On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:22 AM,  mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote:



 Damn! You figured out Sheryl and my ulterior motive, Lyndon!







 As Sheryl stated, please be aware that your responses can/will be used in



 the next issue of The TEXAS CAVER.







 If you have no problem with this, post away!











 Thanks,







 Mark







 -Original Message-



 From: lyndon@gmail.com [mailto:lyndon@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Lyndon



 Tiu



 Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 8:19 AM



 To: Sheryl Rieck



 Cc: TexasCavers



 Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving







 Sounds like a good title for a TC article.







 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Sheryl Rieck sheryl.ri...@gmail.com



 wrote:







 I started caving a bit later in life than many people and promptly became







 too busy to cave even though I had fallen in love with the peace and



 beauty







 of the caves I had visited. I have not been in a cave in 4 years, but



 almost







 no day goes by that I don’t think about caving. It is my choices that have







 kept me from caving. That doesn’t keep from missing it any less.































 As I was wading through the massive number of issues associated with a







 go-live (the ultimate goal of my projects) that was in too short a time



 span







 and with too little information, I found myself thinking yet again of



 caving







 and how I would so much prefer to be underground with a bunch of fun folks







 than getting my butt kicked by issues.  About this same time, the emails







 from Mark began.































 I agreed with the assessment of the publications becoming very scientific.







 I’m an accountant. I have no scientific knowledge in the realm of







 speleological studies. I don’t read those articles because they make my



 eyes







 roll back in my head and that just makes my eyes hurt. So, in an effort to







 give Mark an article and to give us laypeople something to read, I came up







 with 10 reasons I would rather be caving. I thought maybe you could send







 Mark YOUR 10 reasons you would rather be caving. Knowing the Texas caving







 community as I do, I think that the articles would be fascinating.































 Here are my 10:































 1.   The snakes are only at the entrance of a cave and look like



 snakes.















 2.   A traffic jam is just a good way to rest in a cave.















 3.   The people who annoy me most would never be able to find me in a







 cave.















 4.   My laptop cannot get a signal in a cave. That is my story and I



 am







 sticking to it no matter what.















 5.   My cell phone cannot get a signal in a cave. Ditto sticking to



 it.















 6.   Saying you have been mapping a cave sounds more interesting than







 saying you have been mapping a chart of accounts.















 7.   Mapping a cave IS more interesting than mapping a chart of







 accounts.















 8.   When I am in the dark in a cave that is the way it is supposed to







 be.















 9.   I have met some interesting, entertaining, and/or incredibly odd







 people on caving trips and that is just fun.















 10.   I am usually not the strangest person in the group.































 I cannot wait to see what others’ 10 reasons are that they would rather be







 caving. I have read some truly amazing words from so many of you. You are







 verbose, imaginative, and clever people and I think your 10 reasons would



 be







 worth a read.































 Disclaimer

RE: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving

2012-05-22 Thread Mark . Alman
Thanks, Sheryl! 

 

OK, I'll start:

 

Since I'm not able to visit the moon, caving is the closest I'll ever
get to visiting an alien landscape and having an otherworldly
experience.

 

Your turn!

 

 

Mark

 

 

 

From: Sheryl Rieck [mailto:sheryl.ri...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 8:13 AM
To: TexasCavers
Subject: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving

 

I started caving a bit later in life than many people and promptly
became too busy to cave even though I had fallen in love with the peace
and beauty of the caves I had visited. I have not been in a cave in 4
years, but almost no day goes by that I don't think about caving. It is
my choices that have kept me from caving. That doesn't keep from missing
it any less.  

 

As I was wading through the massive number of issues associated with a
go-live (the ultimate goal of my projects) that was in too short a time
span and with too little information, I found myself thinking yet again
of caving and how I would so much prefer to be underground with a bunch
of fun folks than getting my butt kicked by issues.  About this same
time, the emails from Mark began. 

 

I agreed with the assessment of the publications becoming very
scientific. I'm an accountant. I have no scientific knowledge in the
realm of speleological studies. I don't read those articles because they
make my eyes roll back in my head and that just makes my eyes hurt. So,
in an effort to give Mark an article and to give us laypeople something
to read, I came up with 10 reasons I would rather be caving. I thought
maybe you could send Mark YOUR 10 reasons you would rather be caving.
Knowing the Texas caving community as I do, I think that the articles
would be fascinating.

 

Here are my 10:

 

1.   The snakes are only at the entrance of a cave and look like
snakes.

2.   A traffic jam is just a good way to rest in a cave.

3.   The people who annoy me most would never be able to find me in
a cave.

4.   My laptop cannot get a signal in a cave. That is my story and I
am sticking to it no matter what.

5.   My cell phone cannot get a signal in a cave. Ditto sticking to
it.

6.   Saying you have been mapping a cave sounds more interesting
than saying you have been mapping a chart of accounts.

7.   Mapping a cave IS more interesting than mapping a chart of
accounts.

8.   When I am in the dark in a cave that is the way it is supposed
to be.

9.   I have met some interesting, entertaining, and/or incredibly
odd people on caving trips and that is just fun.

10.   I am usually not the strangest person in the group.

 

I cannot wait to see what others' 10 reasons are that they would rather
be caving. I have read some truly amazing words from so many of you. You
are verbose, imaginative, and clever people and I think your 10 reasons
would be worth a read.

 

Disclaimer: Not all submissions will be published and you know why.



Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving

2012-05-22 Thread Lyndon Tiu
Sounds like a good title for a TC article.

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Sheryl Rieck sheryl.ri...@gmail.com wrote:
 I started caving a bit later in life than many people and promptly became
 too busy to cave even though I had fallen in love with the peace and beauty
 of the caves I had visited. I have not been in a cave in 4 years, but almost
 no day goes by that I don’t think about caving. It is my choices that have
 kept me from caving. That doesn’t keep from missing it any less.



 As I was wading through the massive number of issues associated with a
 go-live (the ultimate goal of my projects) that was in too short a time span
 and with too little information, I found myself thinking yet again of caving
 and how I would so much prefer to be underground with a bunch of fun folks
 than getting my butt kicked by issues.  About this same time, the emails
 from Mark began.



 I agreed with the assessment of the publications becoming very scientific.
 I’m an accountant. I have no scientific knowledge in the realm of
 speleological studies. I don’t read those articles because they make my eyes
 roll back in my head and that just makes my eyes hurt. So, in an effort to
 give Mark an article and to give us laypeople something to read, I came up
 with 10 reasons I would rather be caving. I thought maybe you could send
 Mark YOUR 10 reasons you would rather be caving. Knowing the Texas caving
 community as I do, I think that the articles would be fascinating.



 Here are my 10:



 1.   The snakes are only at the entrance of a cave and look like snakes.

 2.   A traffic jam is just a good way to rest in a cave.

 3.   The people who annoy me most would never be able to find me in a
 cave.

 4.   My laptop cannot get a signal in a cave. That is my story and I am
 sticking to it no matter what.

 5.   My cell phone cannot get a signal in a cave. Ditto sticking to it.

 6.   Saying you have been mapping a cave sounds more interesting than
 saying you have been mapping a chart of accounts.

 7.   Mapping a cave IS more interesting than mapping a chart of
 accounts.

 8.   When I am in the dark in a cave that is the way it is supposed to
 be.

 9.   I have met some interesting, entertaining, and/or incredibly odd
 people on caving trips and that is just fun.

 10.   I am usually not the strangest person in the group.



 I cannot wait to see what others’ 10 reasons are that they would rather be
 caving. I have read some truly amazing words from so many of you. You are
 verbose, imaginative, and clever people and I think your 10 reasons would be
 worth a read.



 Disclaimer: Not all submissions will be published and you know why.



-- 
Lyndon Tiu

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Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving

2012-05-22 Thread Mallory Mayeux
Mark,

You took my best reason!

Here goes my list: (both playful and serious.)

The smell of cave dirt  brings back the BEST memories. (I began caving in
college, at Mammoth Cave, the first time I was ever really away from home.
When I take a deep breath underground, suddenly I'm 19 again, tasting my
first freedom, and life's possibilities are endless.)

There is nothing like a 12+ hour cave trip to run your mind blank, and just
exist in the moment.

Caving gear is my indulgence. Ordering a shiny pantin, a thick coil of new
11 mm rope, a colorful new Rutherford pack, chunky boots...bliss! I love
them all and can't wait to put them to good use!

The fear you feel when you're stepping off the side of a tall pit makes you
feel alive.

If society collapses I know ALL the best hideouts.

The people. Cavers have been my best friends, significant others,
inspirations. And of course, some of the weirdest people that I've ever
met! Not a day goes by that I don't thank God and whatever stars aligned
that I fell into caving and became one of you wackos. :)

The couch at Deep/Punkin is the comfiest one I've ever slept on.

Getting to cave entrances puts my RAV4's 4x4 capabilities to good use.
Probably the ONLY time I get to use that feature.

If I go caving, I usually go west. And when I go west, sometimes I see
cactus. And cactus is really cool.

I look damn good in a wetsuit. Honey Creek Tank Haul, baby!

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:22 AM, mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote:

 **

 Damn! You figured out Sheryl and my ulterior motive, Lyndon!

 As Sheryl stated, please be aware that your responses can/will be used in
 the next issue of* The TEXAS CAVER.*

 If you have no problem with this, post away!

 Thanks,

 Mark

 -Original Message-
 From: lyndon@gmail.com [mailto:lyndon@gmail.comlyndon@gmail.com]
 On Behalf Of Lyndon Tiu
 Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 8:19 AM
 To: Sheryl Rieck
 Cc: TexasCavers
 Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving

 Sounds like a good title for a TC article.

 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Sheryl Rieck sheryl.ri...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  I started caving a bit later in life than many people and promptly became

  too busy to cave even though I had fallen in love with the peace and
 beauty

  of the caves I had visited. I have not been in a cave in 4 years, but
 almost

  no day goes by that I don’t think about caving. It is my choices that
 have

  kept me from caving. That doesn’t keep from missing it any less.

 

 

 

  As I was wading through the massive number of issues associated with a

  go-live (the ultimate goal of my projects) that was in too short a time
 span

  and with too little information, I found myself thinking yet again of
 caving

  and how I would so much prefer to be underground with a bunch of fun
 folks

  than getting my butt kicked by issues.  About this same time, the emails

  from Mark began.

 

 

 

  I agreed with the assessment of the publications becoming very
 scientific.

  I’m an accountant. I have no scientific knowledge in the realm of

  speleological studies. I don’t read those articles because they make my
 eyes

  roll back in my head and that just makes my eyes hurt. So, in an effort
 to

  give Mark an article and to give us laypeople something to read, I came
 up

  with 10 reasons I would rather be caving. I thought maybe you could send

  Mark YOUR 10 reasons you would rather be caving. Knowing the Texas caving

  community as I do, I think that the articles would be fascinating.

 

 

 

  Here are my 10:

 

 

 

  1.   The snakes are only at the entrance of a cave and look like
 snakes.

 

  2.   A traffic jam is just a good way to rest in a cave.

 

  3.   The people who annoy me most would never be able to find me in a

  cave.

 

  4.   My laptop cannot get a signal in a cave. That is my story and I
 am

  sticking to it no matter what.

 

  5.   My cell phone cannot get a signal in a cave. Ditto sticking to
 it.

 

  6.   Saying you have been mapping a cave sounds more interesting than

  saying you have been mapping a chart of accounts.

 

  7.   Mapping a cave IS more interesting than mapping a chart of

  accounts.

 

  8.   When I am in the dark in a cave that is the way it is supposed
 to

  be.

 

  9.   I have met some interesting, entertaining, and/or incredibly odd

  people on caving trips and that is just fun.

 

  10.   I am usually not the strangest person in the group.

 

 

 

  I cannot wait to see what others’ 10 reasons are that they would rather
 be

  caving. I have read some truly amazing words from so many of you. You are

  verbose, imaginative, and clever people and I think your 10 reasons
 would be

  worth a read.

 

 

 

  Disclaimer: Not all submissions will be published and you know why.


 --

 Lyndon Tiu

 -

 Visit our website: http

RE: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving

2012-05-22 Thread Fritz Holt
Mallory,

Cool recollections from a gung ho caver who looks damn good in a wetsuit. Most 
of us have been there and experienced the excitement of entering a cave, old or 
new. For most of us the best part of caving is the camaraderie with fellow 
caver friends.
KEEP ON CAVING!

Fritz, an old spelunker


From: Mallory Mayeux [mailto:mmay...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 9:10 AM
To: mark.al...@l-3com.com
Cc: Lyndon Tiu; Sheryl Rieck; TexasCavers
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving

Mark,

You took my best reason!

Here goes my list: (both playful and serious.)

The smell of cave dirt  brings back the BEST memories. (I began caving in 
college, at Mammoth Cave, the first time I was ever really away from home. When 
I take a deep breath underground, suddenly I'm 19 again, tasting my first 
freedom, and life's possibilities are endless.)

There is nothing like a 12+ hour cave trip to run your mind blank, and just 
exist in the moment.

Caving gear is my indulgence. Ordering a shiny pantin, a thick coil of new 11 
mm rope, a colorful new Rutherford pack, chunky boots...bliss! I love them all 
and can't wait to put them to good use!

The fear you feel when you're stepping off the side of a tall pit makes you 
feel alive.

If society collapses I know ALL the best hideouts.

The people. Cavers have been my best friends, significant others, inspirations. 
And of course, some of the weirdest people that I've ever
met! Not a day goes by that I don't thank God and whatever stars aligned that I 
fell into caving and became one of you wackos. :)

The couch at Deep/Punkin is the comfiest one I've ever slept on.

Getting to cave entrances puts my RAV4's 4x4 capabilities to good use. Probably 
the ONLY time I get to use that feature.

If I go caving, I usually go west. And when I go west, sometimes I see cactus. 
And cactus is really cool.

I look damn good in a wetsuit. Honey Creek Tank Haul, baby!

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:22 AM, 
mark.al...@l-3com.commailto:mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote:

Damn! You figured out Sheryl and my ulterior motive, Lyndon!

As Sheryl stated, please be aware that your responses can/will be used in the 
next issue of The TEXAS CAVER.

If you have no problem with this, post away!


Thanks,

Mark

-Original Message-
From: lyndon@gmail.commailto:lyndon@gmail.com 
[mailto:lyndon@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Lyndon Tiu
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 8:19 AM
To: Sheryl Rieck
Cc: TexasCavers
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving

Sounds like a good title for a TC article.

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Sheryl Rieck 
sheryl.ri...@gmail.commailto:sheryl.ri...@gmail.com wrote:

 I started caving a bit later in life than many people and promptly became

 too busy to cave even though I had fallen in love with the peace and beauty

 of the caves I had visited. I have not been in a cave in 4 years, but almost

 no day goes by that I don't think about caving. It is my choices that have

 kept me from caving. That doesn't keep from missing it any less.







 As I was wading through the massive number of issues associated with a

 go-live (the ultimate goal of my projects) that was in too short a time span

 and with too little information, I found myself thinking yet again of caving

 and how I would so much prefer to be underground with a bunch of fun folks

 than getting my butt kicked by issues.  About this same time, the emails

 from Mark began.







 I agreed with the assessment of the publications becoming very scientific.

 I'm an accountant. I have no scientific knowledge in the realm of

 speleological studies. I don't read those articles because they make my eyes

 roll back in my head and that just makes my eyes hurt. So, in an effort to

 give Mark an article and to give us laypeople something to read, I came up

 with 10 reasons I would rather be caving. I thought maybe you could send

 Mark YOUR 10 reasons you would rather be caving. Knowing the Texas caving

 community as I do, I think that the articles would be fascinating.







 Here are my 10:







 1.   The snakes are only at the entrance of a cave and look like snakes.



 2.   A traffic jam is just a good way to rest in a cave.



 3.   The people who annoy me most would never be able to find me in a

 cave.



 4.   My laptop cannot get a signal in a cave. That is my story and I am

 sticking to it no matter what.



 5.   My cell phone cannot get a signal in a cave. Ditto sticking to it.



 6.   Saying you have been mapping a cave sounds more interesting than

 saying you have been mapping a chart of accounts.



 7.   Mapping a cave IS more interesting than mapping a chart of

 accounts.



 8.   When I am in the dark in a cave that is the way it is supposed to

 be.



 9.   I have met some interesting, entertaining, and/or incredibly odd

 people on caving trips and that is just fun

Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving

2012-05-22 Thread Lyndon Tiu
Cavers are good people.
I get to go camping for cheap surrrounded by good people.
I get to do something fun and exciting with good people.
I get good food prepared by good people.
I get to hang with beautiful good people.

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:22 AM,  mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote:
 Damn! You figured out Sheryl and my ulterior motive, Lyndon!

 As Sheryl stated, please be aware that your responses can/will be used in
 the next issue of The TEXAS CAVER.

 If you have no problem with this, post away!


 Thanks,

 Mark

 -Original Message-
 From: lyndon@gmail.com [mailto:lyndon@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Lyndon
 Tiu
 Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 8:19 AM
 To: Sheryl Rieck
 Cc: TexasCavers
 Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving

 Sounds like a good title for a TC article.

 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Sheryl Rieck sheryl.ri...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I started caving a bit later in life than many people and promptly became

 too busy to cave even though I had fallen in love with the peace and
 beauty

 of the caves I had visited. I have not been in a cave in 4 years, but
 almost

 no day goes by that I don’t think about caving. It is my choices that have

 kept me from caving. That doesn’t keep from missing it any less.







 As I was wading through the massive number of issues associated with a

 go-live (the ultimate goal of my projects) that was in too short a time
 span

 and with too little information, I found myself thinking yet again of
 caving

 and how I would so much prefer to be underground with a bunch of fun folks

 than getting my butt kicked by issues.  About this same time, the emails

 from Mark began.







 I agreed with the assessment of the publications becoming very scientific.

 I’m an accountant. I have no scientific knowledge in the realm of

 speleological studies. I don’t read those articles because they make my
 eyes

 roll back in my head and that just makes my eyes hurt. So, in an effort to

 give Mark an article and to give us laypeople something to read, I came up

 with 10 reasons I would rather be caving. I thought maybe you could send

 Mark YOUR 10 reasons you would rather be caving. Knowing the Texas caving

 community as I do, I think that the articles would be fascinating.







 Here are my 10:







 1.   The snakes are only at the entrance of a cave and look like
 snakes.



 2.   A traffic jam is just a good way to rest in a cave.



 3.   The people who annoy me most would never be able to find me in a

 cave.



 4.   My laptop cannot get a signal in a cave. That is my story and I
 am

 sticking to it no matter what.



 5.   My cell phone cannot get a signal in a cave. Ditto sticking to
 it.



 6.   Saying you have been mapping a cave sounds more interesting than

 saying you have been mapping a chart of accounts.



 7.   Mapping a cave IS more interesting than mapping a chart of

 accounts.



 8.   When I am in the dark in a cave that is the way it is supposed to

 be.



 9.   I have met some interesting, entertaining, and/or incredibly odd

 people on caving trips and that is just fun.



 10.   I am usually not the strangest person in the group.







 I cannot wait to see what others’ 10 reasons are that they would rather be

 caving. I have read some truly amazing words from so many of you. You are

 verbose, imaginative, and clever people and I think your 10 reasons would
 be

 worth a read.







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Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving

2012-05-22 Thread Nico Escamilla
That's only four Lyndon, come on.. you can do better than that.

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Lyndon Tiu l...@alumni.sfu.ca wrote:

 Cavers are good people.
 I get to go camping for cheap surrrounded by good people.
 I get to do something fun and exciting with good people.
 I get good food prepared by good people.
 I get to hang with beautiful good people.

 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:22 AM,  mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote:
  Damn! You figured out Sheryl and my ulterior motive, Lyndon!
 
  As Sheryl stated, please be aware that your responses can/will be used in
  the next issue of The TEXAS CAVER.
 
  If you have no problem with this, post away!
 
 
  Thanks,
 
  Mark
 
  -Original Message-
  From: lyndon@gmail.com [mailto:lyndon@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
 Lyndon
  Tiu
  Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 8:19 AM
  To: Sheryl Rieck
  Cc: TexasCavers
  Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving
 
  Sounds like a good title for a TC article.
 
  On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Sheryl Rieck sheryl.ri...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  I started caving a bit later in life than many people and promptly
 became
 
  too busy to cave even though I had fallen in love with the peace and
  beauty
 
  of the caves I had visited. I have not been in a cave in 4 years, but
  almost
 
  no day goes by that I don’t think about caving. It is my choices that
 have
 
  kept me from caving. That doesn’t keep from missing it any less.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  As I was wading through the massive number of issues associated with a
 
  go-live (the ultimate goal of my projects) that was in too short a time
  span
 
  and with too little information, I found myself thinking yet again of
  caving
 
  and how I would so much prefer to be underground with a bunch of fun
 folks
 
  than getting my butt kicked by issues.  About this same time, the emails
 
  from Mark began.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  I agreed with the assessment of the publications becoming very
 scientific.
 
  I’m an accountant. I have no scientific knowledge in the realm of
 
  speleological studies. I don’t read those articles because they make my
  eyes
 
  roll back in my head and that just makes my eyes hurt. So, in an effort
 to
 
  give Mark an article and to give us laypeople something to read, I came
 up
 
  with 10 reasons I would rather be caving. I thought maybe you could send
 
  Mark YOUR 10 reasons you would rather be caving. Knowing the Texas
 caving
 
  community as I do, I think that the articles would be fascinating.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Here are my 10:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  1.   The snakes are only at the entrance of a cave and look like
  snakes.
 
 
 
  2.   A traffic jam is just a good way to rest in a cave.
 
 
 
  3.   The people who annoy me most would never be able to find me in
 a
 
  cave.
 
 
 
  4.   My laptop cannot get a signal in a cave. That is my story and I
  am
 
  sticking to it no matter what.
 
 
 
  5.   My cell phone cannot get a signal in a cave. Ditto sticking to
  it.
 
 
 
  6.   Saying you have been mapping a cave sounds more interesting
 than
 
  saying you have been mapping a chart of accounts.
 
 
 
  7.   Mapping a cave IS more interesting than mapping a chart of
 
  accounts.
 
 
 
  8.   When I am in the dark in a cave that is the way it is supposed
 to
 
  be.
 
 
 
  9.   I have met some interesting, entertaining, and/or incredibly
 odd
 
  people on caving trips and that is just fun.
 
 
 
  10.   I am usually not the strangest person in the group.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  I cannot wait to see what others’ 10 reasons are that they would rather
 be
 
  caving. I have read some truly amazing words from so many of you. You
 are
 
  verbose, imaginative, and clever people and I think your 10 reasons
 would
  be
 
  worth a read.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Disclaimer: Not all submissions will be published and you know why.
 
 
 
  --
 
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Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving

2012-05-22 Thread Mallory Mayeux
Hey Nico, where's your list? 4 reasons is better than zero! :)

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Nico Escamilla pitboun...@gmail.comwrote:

 That's only four Lyndon, come on.. you can do better than that.


 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Lyndon Tiu l...@alumni.sfu.ca wrote:

 Cavers are good people.
 I get to go camping for cheap surrrounded by good people.
 I get to do something fun and exciting with good people.
 I get good food prepared by good people.
 I get to hang with beautiful good people.

 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:22 AM,  mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote:
  Damn! You figured out Sheryl and my ulterior motive, Lyndon!
 
  As Sheryl stated, please be aware that your responses can/will be used
 in
  the next issue of The TEXAS CAVER.
 
  If you have no problem with this, post away!
 
 
  Thanks,
 
  Mark
 
  -Original Message-
  From: lyndon@gmail.com [mailto:lyndon@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
 Lyndon
  Tiu
  Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 8:19 AM
  To: Sheryl Rieck
  Cc: TexasCavers
  Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving
 
  Sounds like a good title for a TC article.
 
  On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Sheryl Rieck sheryl.ri...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  I started caving a bit later in life than many people and promptly
 became
 
  too busy to cave even though I had fallen in love with the peace and
  beauty
 
  of the caves I had visited. I have not been in a cave in 4 years, but
  almost
 
  no day goes by that I don’t think about caving. It is my choices that
 have
 
  kept me from caving. That doesn’t keep from missing it any less.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  As I was wading through the massive number of issues associated with a
 
  go-live (the ultimate goal of my projects) that was in too short a time
  span
 
  and with too little information, I found myself thinking yet again of
  caving
 
  and how I would so much prefer to be underground with a bunch of fun
 folks
 
  than getting my butt kicked by issues.  About this same time, the
 emails
 
  from Mark began.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  I agreed with the assessment of the publications becoming very
 scientific.
 
  I’m an accountant. I have no scientific knowledge in the realm of
 
  speleological studies. I don’t read those articles because they make my
  eyes
 
  roll back in my head and that just makes my eyes hurt. So, in an
 effort to
 
  give Mark an article and to give us laypeople something to read, I
 came up
 
  with 10 reasons I would rather be caving. I thought maybe you could
 send
 
  Mark YOUR 10 reasons you would rather be caving. Knowing the Texas
 caving
 
  community as I do, I think that the articles would be fascinating.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Here are my 10:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  1.   The snakes are only at the entrance of a cave and look like
  snakes.
 
 
 
  2.   A traffic jam is just a good way to rest in a cave.
 
 
 
  3.   The people who annoy me most would never be able to find me
 in a
 
  cave.
 
 
 
  4.   My laptop cannot get a signal in a cave. That is my story and
 I
  am
 
  sticking to it no matter what.
 
 
 
  5.   My cell phone cannot get a signal in a cave. Ditto sticking to
  it.
 
 
 
  6.   Saying you have been mapping a cave sounds more interesting
 than
 
  saying you have been mapping a chart of accounts.
 
 
 
  7.   Mapping a cave IS more interesting than mapping a chart of
 
  accounts.
 
 
 
  8.   When I am in the dark in a cave that is the way it is
 supposed to
 
  be.
 
 
 
  9.   I have met some interesting, entertaining, and/or incredibly
 odd
 
  people on caving trips and that is just fun.
 
 
 
  10.   I am usually not the strangest person in the group.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  I cannot wait to see what others’ 10 reasons are that they would
 rather be
 
  caving. I have read some truly amazing words from so many of you. You
 are
 
  verbose, imaginative, and clever people and I think your 10 reasons
 would
  be
 
  worth a read.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Disclaimer: Not all submissions will be published and you know why.
 
 
 
  --
 
  Lyndon Tiu
 
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Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving

2012-05-22 Thread germanyj
He could have at least mentioned he met his wife while caving ;)



-Original Message-
From: Nico Escamilla pitboun...@gmail.com
To: Lyndon Tiu l...@alumni.sfu.ca
Cc: TexasCavers texascavers@texascavers.com
Sent: Tue, May 22, 2012 9:36 am
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving


That's only four Lyndon, come on.. you can do better than that.


On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Lyndon Tiu l...@alumni.sfu.ca wrote:

Cavers are good people.
I get to go camping for cheap surrrounded by good people.
I get to do something fun and exciting with good people.
I get good food prepared by good people.
I get to hang with beautiful good people.


On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:22 AM,  mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote:
 Damn! You figured out Sheryl and my ulterior motive, Lyndon!

 As Sheryl stated, please be aware that your responses can/will be used in
 the next issue of The TEXAS CAVER.

 If you have no problem with this, post away!


 Thanks,

 Mark

 -Original Message-
 From: lyndon@gmail.com [mailto:lyndon@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Lyndon
 Tiu
 Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 8:19 AM
 To: Sheryl Rieck
 Cc: TexasCavers
 Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving

 Sounds like a good title for a TC article.

 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Sheryl Rieck sheryl.ri...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I started caving a bit later in life than many people and promptly became

 too busy to cave even though I had fallen in love with the peace and
 beauty

 of the caves I had visited. I have not been in a cave in 4 years, but
 almost

 no day goes by that I don’t think about caving. It is my choices that have

 kept me from caving. That doesn’t keep from missing it any less.







 As I was wading through the massive number of issues associated with a

 go-live (the ultimate goal of my projects) that was in too short a time
 span

 and with too little information, I found myself thinking yet again of
 caving

 and how I would so much prefer to be underground with a bunch of fun folks

 than getting my butt kicked by issues.  About this same time, the emails

 from Mark began.







 I agreed with the assessment of the publications becoming very scientific.

 I’m an accountant. I have no scientific knowledge in the realm of

 speleological studies. I don’t read those articles because they make my
 eyes

 roll back in my head and that just makes my eyes hurt. So, in an effort to

 give Mark an article and to give us laypeople something to read, I came up

 with 10 reasons I would rather be caving. I thought maybe you could send

 Mark YOUR 10 reasons you would rather be caving. Knowing the Texas caving

 community as I do, I think that the articles would be fascinating.







 Here are my 10:







 1.   The snakes are only at the entrance of a cave and look like
 snakes.



 2.   A traffic jam is just a good way to rest in a cave.



 3.   The people who annoy me most would never be able to find me in a

 cave.



 4.   My laptop cannot get a signal in a cave. That is my story and I
 am

 sticking to it no matter what.



 5.   My cell phone cannot get a signal in a cave. Ditto sticking to
 it.



 6.   Saying you have been mapping a cave sounds more interesting than

 saying you have been mapping a chart of accounts.



 7.   Mapping a cave IS more interesting than mapping a chart of

 accounts.



 8.   When I am in the dark in a cave that is the way it is supposed to

 be.



 9.   I have met some interesting, entertaining, and/or incredibly odd

 people on caving trips and that is just fun.



 10.   I am usually not the strangest person in the group.







 I cannot wait to see what others’ 10 reasons are that they would rather be

 caving. I have read some truly amazing words from so many of you. You are

 verbose, imaginative, and clever people and I think your 10 reasons would
 be

 worth a read.







 Disclaimer: Not all submissions will be published and you know why.



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Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving

2012-05-22 Thread Nico Escamilla
Nah, dont ask me. I do it for selfish non scientific purposes, bragging
rights, among other things.

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Mallory Mayeux mmay...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey Nico, where's your list? 4 reasons is better than zero! :)


 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Nico Escamilla pitboun...@gmail.comwrote:

 That's only four Lyndon, come on.. you can do better than that.


 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Lyndon Tiu l...@alumni.sfu.ca wrote:

 Cavers are good people.
 I get to go camping for cheap surrrounded by good people.
 I get to do something fun and exciting with good people.
 I get good food prepared by good people.
 I get to hang with beautiful good people.

 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:22 AM,  mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote:
  Damn! You figured out Sheryl and my ulterior motive, Lyndon!
 
  As Sheryl stated, please be aware that your responses can/will be used
 in
  the next issue of The TEXAS CAVER.
 
  If you have no problem with this, post away!
 
 
  Thanks,
 
  Mark
 
  -Original Message-
  From: lyndon@gmail.com [mailto:lyndon@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
 Lyndon
  Tiu
  Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 8:19 AM
  To: Sheryl Rieck
  Cc: TexasCavers
  Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving
 
  Sounds like a good title for a TC article.
 
  On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Sheryl Rieck sheryl.ri...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  I started caving a bit later in life than many people and promptly
 became
 
  too busy to cave even though I had fallen in love with the peace and
  beauty
 
  of the caves I had visited. I have not been in a cave in 4 years, but
  almost
 
  no day goes by that I don’t think about caving. It is my choices that
 have
 
  kept me from caving. That doesn’t keep from missing it any less.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  As I was wading through the massive number of issues associated with a
 
  go-live (the ultimate goal of my projects) that was in too short a
 time
  span
 
  and with too little information, I found myself thinking yet again of
  caving
 
  and how I would so much prefer to be underground with a bunch of fun
 folks
 
  than getting my butt kicked by issues.  About this same time, the
 emails
 
  from Mark began.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  I agreed with the assessment of the publications becoming very
 scientific.
 
  I’m an accountant. I have no scientific knowledge in the realm of
 
  speleological studies. I don’t read those articles because they make
 my
  eyes
 
  roll back in my head and that just makes my eyes hurt. So, in an
 effort to
 
  give Mark an article and to give us laypeople something to read, I
 came up
 
  with 10 reasons I would rather be caving. I thought maybe you could
 send
 
  Mark YOUR 10 reasons you would rather be caving. Knowing the Texas
 caving
 
  community as I do, I think that the articles would be fascinating.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Here are my 10:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  1.   The snakes are only at the entrance of a cave and look like
  snakes.
 
 
 
  2.   A traffic jam is just a good way to rest in a cave.
 
 
 
  3.   The people who annoy me most would never be able to find me
 in a
 
  cave.
 
 
 
  4.   My laptop cannot get a signal in a cave. That is my story
 and I
  am
 
  sticking to it no matter what.
 
 
 
  5.   My cell phone cannot get a signal in a cave. Ditto sticking
 to
  it.
 
 
 
  6.   Saying you have been mapping a cave sounds more interesting
 than
 
  saying you have been mapping a chart of accounts.
 
 
 
  7.   Mapping a cave IS more interesting than mapping a chart of
 
  accounts.
 
 
 
  8.   When I am in the dark in a cave that is the way it is
 supposed to
 
  be.
 
 
 
  9.   I have met some interesting, entertaining, and/or incredibly
 odd
 
  people on caving trips and that is just fun.
 
 
 
  10.   I am usually not the strangest person in the group.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  I cannot wait to see what others’ 10 reasons are that they would
 rather be
 
  caving. I have read some truly amazing words from so many of you. You
 are
 
  verbose, imaginative, and clever people and I think your 10 reasons
 would
  be
 
  worth a read.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Disclaimer: Not all submissions will be published and you know why.
 
 
 
  --
 
  Lyndon Tiu
 
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Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving

2012-05-22 Thread Andy Gluesenkamp
He's not the only one!  
In fact, I think you we on that trip, Julia.

Andrew G. Gluesenkamp, Ph.D.

700 Billie Brooks Drive

Driftwood, Texas 78619

(512) 799-1095

a...@gluesenkamp.com

--- On Tue, 5/22/12, germa...@aol.com germa...@aol.com wrote:

From: germa...@aol.com germa...@aol.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving
To: pitboun...@gmail.com, l...@alumni.sfu.ca
Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Tuesday, May 22, 2012, 9:40 AM

He could have at least mentioned he met his wife while caving ;)










-Original Message-


From: Nico Escamilla pitboun...@gmail.com


To: Lyndon Tiu l...@alumni.sfu.ca


Cc: TexasCavers texascavers@texascavers.com


Sent: Tue, May 22, 2012 9:36 am


Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving















That's only four Lyndon, come on.. you can do better than that.







On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Lyndon Tiu l...@alumni.sfu.ca wrote:




Cavers are good people.



I get to go camping for cheap surrrounded by good people.



I get to do something fun and exciting with good people.



I get good food prepared by good people.



I get to hang with beautiful good people.











On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:22 AM,  mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote:



 Damn! You figured out Sheryl and my ulterior motive, Lyndon!







 As Sheryl stated, please be aware that your responses can/will be used in



 the next issue of The TEXAS CAVER.







 If you have no problem with this, post away!











 Thanks,







 Mark







 -Original Message-



 From: lyndon@gmail.com [mailto:lyndon@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Lyndon



 Tiu



 Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 8:19 AM



 To: Sheryl Rieck



 Cc: TexasCavers



 Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving







 Sounds like a good title for a TC article.







 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Sheryl Rieck sheryl.ri...@gmail.com



 wrote:







 I started caving a bit later in life than many people and promptly became







 too busy to cave even though I had fallen in love with the peace and



 beauty







 of the caves I had visited. I have not been in a cave in 4 years, but



 almost







 no day goes by that I don’t think about caving. It is my choices that have







 kept me from caving. That doesn’t keep from missing it any less.































 As I was wading through the massive number of issues associated with a







 go-live (the ultimate goal of my projects) that was in too short a time



 span







 and with too little information, I found myself thinking yet again of



 caving







 and how I would so much prefer to be underground with a bunch of fun folks







 than getting my butt kicked by issues.  About this same time, the emails







 from Mark began.































 I agreed with the assessment of the publications becoming very scientific.







 I’m an accountant. I have no scientific knowledge in the realm of







 speleological studies. I don’t read those articles because they make my



 eyes







 roll back in my head and that just makes my eyes hurt. So, in an effort to







 give Mark an article and to give us laypeople something to read, I came up







 with 10 reasons I would rather be caving. I thought maybe you could send







 Mark YOUR 10 reasons you would rather be caving. Knowing the Texas caving







 community as I do, I think that the articles would be fascinating.































 Here are my 10:































 1.   The snakes are only at the entrance of a cave and look like



 snakes.















 2.   A traffic jam is just a good way to rest in a cave.















 3.   The people who annoy me most would never be able to find me in a







 cave.















 4.   My laptop cannot get a signal in a cave. That is my story and I



 am







 sticking to it no matter what.















 5.   My cell phone cannot get a signal in a cave. Ditto sticking to



 it.















 6.   Saying you have been mapping a cave sounds more interesting than







 saying you have been mapping a chart of accounts.















 7.   Mapping a cave IS more interesting than mapping a chart of







 accounts.















 8.   When I am in the dark in a cave that is the way it is supposed to







 be.















 9.   I have met some interesting, entertaining, and/or incredibly odd







 people on caving trips and that is just fun.















 10.   I am usually not the strangest person in the group.































 I cannot wait to see what others’ 10 reasons are that they would rather be







 caving. I have read some truly amazing words from so many of you. You are







 verbose, imaginative, and clever people and I think your 10 reasons would



 be







 worth a read

Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving

2012-05-22 Thread Bill Bentley
I go caving because:
1. I get to enjoy Nature's Central Air... Cool in the Summer and warm in 
Winter...
2. It gets me out of Midland.
3. I get to see my friends.
4. 90% of the time I get to go camping
5. I usually don't eat food that is good for me, but it tastes good.
6. I can not think about work when caving.
7. I always learn something new on every trip.
8. I love to take pictures and this gives me an excuse to take cave pictures.
9. Going caving make my co-workers think I am weird, and that is fine by me.
10.. I just love caves

  - Original Message - 
  From: germa...@aol.com 
  To: pitboun...@gmail.com ; l...@alumni.sfu.ca 
  Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 9:40 AM
  Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving


  He could have at least mentioned he met his wife while caving ;)



  -Original Message-
  From: Nico Escamilla pitboun...@gmail.com
  To: Lyndon Tiu l...@alumni.sfu.ca
  Cc: TexasCavers texascavers@texascavers.com
  Sent: Tue, May 22, 2012 9:36 am
  Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving


  That's only four Lyndon, come on.. you can do better than that.


  On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Lyndon Tiu l...@alumni.sfu.ca wrote:

Cavers are good people.
I get to go camping for cheap surrrounded by good people.
I get to do something fun and exciting with good people.
I get good food prepared by good people.
I get to hang with beautiful good people.


On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:22 AM,  mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote:
 Damn! You figured out Sheryl and my ulterior motive, Lyndon!

 As Sheryl stated, please be aware that your responses can/will be used in
 the next issue of The TEXAS CAVER.

 If you have no problem with this, post away!


 Thanks,

 Mark

 -Original Message-
 From: lyndon@gmail.com [mailto:lyndon@gmail.com] On Behalf Of 
Lyndon
 Tiu
 Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 8:19 AM
 To: Sheryl Rieck
 Cc: TexasCavers
 Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving

 Sounds like a good title for a TC article.

 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Sheryl Rieck sheryl.ri...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I started caving a bit later in life than many people and promptly became

 too busy to cave even though I had fallen in love with the peace and
 beauty

 of the caves I had visited. I have not been in a cave in 4 years, but
 almost

 no day goes by that I don’t think about caving. It is my choices that 
have

 kept me from caving. That doesn’t keep from missing it any less.







 As I was wading through the massive number of issues associated with a

 go-live (the ultimate goal of my projects) that was in too short a time
 span

 and with too little information, I found myself thinking yet again of
 caving

 and how I would so much prefer to be underground with a bunch of fun 
folks

 than getting my butt kicked by issues.  About this same time, the emails

 from Mark began.







 I agreed with the assessment of the publications becoming very 
scientific.

 I’m an accountant. I have no scientific knowledge in the realm of

 speleological studies. I don’t read those articles because they make my
 eyes

 roll back in my head and that just makes my eyes hurt. So, in an effort 
to

 give Mark an article and to give us laypeople something to read, I came 
up

 with 10 reasons I would rather be caving. I thought maybe you could send

 Mark YOUR 10 reasons you would rather be caving. Knowing the Texas caving

 community as I do, I think that the articles would be fascinating.







 Here are my 10:







 1.   The snakes are only at the entrance of a cave and look like
 snakes.



 2.   A traffic jam is just a good way to rest in a cave.



 3.   The people who annoy me most would never be able to find me in a

 cave.



 4.   My laptop cannot get a signal in a cave. That is my story and I
 am

 sticking to it no matter what.



 5.   My cell phone cannot get a signal in a cave. Ditto sticking to
 it.



 6.   Saying you have been mapping a cave sounds more interesting than

 saying you have been mapping a chart of accounts.



 7.   Mapping a cave IS more interesting than mapping a chart of

 accounts.



 8.   When I am in the dark in a cave that is the way it is supposed 
to

 be.



 9.   I have met some interesting, entertaining, and/or incredibly odd

 people on caving

RE: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving

2012-05-22 Thread Mark . Alman
Thanks, Sheryl! 

 

OK, I'll start:

 

Since I'm not able to visit the moon, caving is the closest I'll ever
get to visiting an alien landscape and having an otherworldly
experience.

 

Your turn!

 

 

Mark

 

 

 

From: Sheryl Rieck [mailto:sheryl.ri...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 8:13 AM
To: TexasCavers
Subject: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving

 

I started caving a bit later in life than many people and promptly
became too busy to cave even though I had fallen in love with the peace
and beauty of the caves I had visited. I have not been in a cave in 4
years, but almost no day goes by that I don't think about caving. It is
my choices that have kept me from caving. That doesn't keep from missing
it any less.  

 

As I was wading through the massive number of issues associated with a
go-live (the ultimate goal of my projects) that was in too short a time
span and with too little information, I found myself thinking yet again
of caving and how I would so much prefer to be underground with a bunch
of fun folks than getting my butt kicked by issues.  About this same
time, the emails from Mark began. 

 

I agreed with the assessment of the publications becoming very
scientific. I'm an accountant. I have no scientific knowledge in the
realm of speleological studies. I don't read those articles because they
make my eyes roll back in my head and that just makes my eyes hurt. So,
in an effort to give Mark an article and to give us laypeople something
to read, I came up with 10 reasons I would rather be caving. I thought
maybe you could send Mark YOUR 10 reasons you would rather be caving.
Knowing the Texas caving community as I do, I think that the articles
would be fascinating.

 

Here are my 10:

 

1.   The snakes are only at the entrance of a cave and look like
snakes.

2.   A traffic jam is just a good way to rest in a cave.

3.   The people who annoy me most would never be able to find me in
a cave.

4.   My laptop cannot get a signal in a cave. That is my story and I
am sticking to it no matter what.

5.   My cell phone cannot get a signal in a cave. Ditto sticking to
it.

6.   Saying you have been mapping a cave sounds more interesting
than saying you have been mapping a chart of accounts.

7.   Mapping a cave IS more interesting than mapping a chart of
accounts.

8.   When I am in the dark in a cave that is the way it is supposed
to be.

9.   I have met some interesting, entertaining, and/or incredibly
odd people on caving trips and that is just fun.

10.   I am usually not the strangest person in the group.

 

I cannot wait to see what others' 10 reasons are that they would rather
be caving. I have read some truly amazing words from so many of you. You
are verbose, imaginative, and clever people and I think your 10 reasons
would be worth a read.

 

Disclaimer: Not all submissions will be published and you know why.



Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving

2012-05-22 Thread Lyndon Tiu
Sounds like a good title for a TC article.

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Sheryl Rieck sheryl.ri...@gmail.com wrote:
 I started caving a bit later in life than many people and promptly became
 too busy to cave even though I had fallen in love with the peace and beauty
 of the caves I had visited. I have not been in a cave in 4 years, but almost
 no day goes by that I don’t think about caving. It is my choices that have
 kept me from caving. That doesn’t keep from missing it any less.



 As I was wading through the massive number of issues associated with a
 go-live (the ultimate goal of my projects) that was in too short a time span
 and with too little information, I found myself thinking yet again of caving
 and how I would so much prefer to be underground with a bunch of fun folks
 than getting my butt kicked by issues.  About this same time, the emails
 from Mark began.



 I agreed with the assessment of the publications becoming very scientific.
 I’m an accountant. I have no scientific knowledge in the realm of
 speleological studies. I don’t read those articles because they make my eyes
 roll back in my head and that just makes my eyes hurt. So, in an effort to
 give Mark an article and to give us laypeople something to read, I came up
 with 10 reasons I would rather be caving. I thought maybe you could send
 Mark YOUR 10 reasons you would rather be caving. Knowing the Texas caving
 community as I do, I think that the articles would be fascinating.



 Here are my 10:



 1.   The snakes are only at the entrance of a cave and look like snakes.

 2.   A traffic jam is just a good way to rest in a cave.

 3.   The people who annoy me most would never be able to find me in a
 cave.

 4.   My laptop cannot get a signal in a cave. That is my story and I am
 sticking to it no matter what.

 5.   My cell phone cannot get a signal in a cave. Ditto sticking to it.

 6.   Saying you have been mapping a cave sounds more interesting than
 saying you have been mapping a chart of accounts.

 7.   Mapping a cave IS more interesting than mapping a chart of
 accounts.

 8.   When I am in the dark in a cave that is the way it is supposed to
 be.

 9.   I have met some interesting, entertaining, and/or incredibly odd
 people on caving trips and that is just fun.

 10.   I am usually not the strangest person in the group.



 I cannot wait to see what others’ 10 reasons are that they would rather be
 caving. I have read some truly amazing words from so many of you. You are
 verbose, imaginative, and clever people and I think your 10 reasons would be
 worth a read.



 Disclaimer: Not all submissions will be published and you know why.



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RE: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving

2012-05-22 Thread Mark . Alman
Damn! You figured out Sheryl and my ulterior motive, Lyndon!

As Sheryl stated, please be aware that your responses can/will be used
in the next issue of The TEXAS CAVER.

If you have no problem with this, post away!


Thanks,

Mark



-Original Message-
From: lyndon@gmail.com [mailto:lyndon@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
Lyndon Tiu
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 8:19 AM
To: Sheryl Rieck
Cc: TexasCavers
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving

Sounds like a good title for a TC article.

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Sheryl Rieck sheryl.ri...@gmail.com
wrote:
 I started caving a bit later in life than many people and promptly
became
 too busy to cave even though I had fallen in love with the peace and
beauty
 of the caves I had visited. I have not been in a cave in 4 years, but
almost
 no day goes by that I don't think about caving. It is my choices that
have
 kept me from caving. That doesn't keep from missing it any less.



 As I was wading through the massive number of issues associated with a
 go-live (the ultimate goal of my projects) that was in too short a
time span
 and with too little information, I found myself thinking yet again of
caving
 and how I would so much prefer to be underground with a bunch of fun
folks
 than getting my butt kicked by issues.  About this same time, the
emails
 from Mark began.



 I agreed with the assessment of the publications becoming very
scientific.
 I'm an accountant. I have no scientific knowledge in the realm of
 speleological studies. I don't read those articles because they make
my eyes
 roll back in my head and that just makes my eyes hurt. So, in an
effort to
 give Mark an article and to give us laypeople something to read, I
came up
 with 10 reasons I would rather be caving. I thought maybe you could
send
 Mark YOUR 10 reasons you would rather be caving. Knowing the Texas
caving
 community as I do, I think that the articles would be fascinating.



 Here are my 10:



 1.   The snakes are only at the entrance of a cave and look like
snakes.

 2.   A traffic jam is just a good way to rest in a cave.

 3.   The people who annoy me most would never be able to find me
in a
 cave.

 4.   My laptop cannot get a signal in a cave. That is my story and
I am
 sticking to it no matter what.

 5.   My cell phone cannot get a signal in a cave. Ditto sticking
to it.

 6.   Saying you have been mapping a cave sounds more interesting
than
 saying you have been mapping a chart of accounts.

 7.   Mapping a cave IS more interesting than mapping a chart of
 accounts.

 8.   When I am in the dark in a cave that is the way it is
supposed to
 be.

 9.   I have met some interesting, entertaining, and/or incredibly
odd
 people on caving trips and that is just fun.

 10.   I am usually not the strangest person in the group.



 I cannot wait to see what others' 10 reasons are that they would
rather be
 caving. I have read some truly amazing words from so many of you. You
are
 verbose, imaginative, and clever people and I think your 10 reasons
would be
 worth a read.



 Disclaimer: Not all submissions will be published and you know why.



-- 
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Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving

2012-05-22 Thread Mallory Mayeux
Mark,

You took my best reason!

Here goes my list: (both playful and serious.)

The smell of cave dirt  brings back the BEST memories. (I began caving in
college, at Mammoth Cave, the first time I was ever really away from home.
When I take a deep breath underground, suddenly I'm 19 again, tasting my
first freedom, and life's possibilities are endless.)

There is nothing like a 12+ hour cave trip to run your mind blank, and just
exist in the moment.

Caving gear is my indulgence. Ordering a shiny pantin, a thick coil of new
11 mm rope, a colorful new Rutherford pack, chunky boots...bliss! I love
them all and can't wait to put them to good use!

The fear you feel when you're stepping off the side of a tall pit makes you
feel alive.

If society collapses I know ALL the best hideouts.

The people. Cavers have been my best friends, significant others,
inspirations. And of course, some of the weirdest people that I've ever
met! Not a day goes by that I don't thank God and whatever stars aligned
that I fell into caving and became one of you wackos. :)

The couch at Deep/Punkin is the comfiest one I've ever slept on.

Getting to cave entrances puts my RAV4's 4x4 capabilities to good use.
Probably the ONLY time I get to use that feature.

If I go caving, I usually go west. And when I go west, sometimes I see
cactus. And cactus is really cool.

I look damn good in a wetsuit. Honey Creek Tank Haul, baby!

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:22 AM, mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote:

 **

 Damn! You figured out Sheryl and my ulterior motive, Lyndon!

 As Sheryl stated, please be aware that your responses can/will be used in
 the next issue of* The TEXAS CAVER.*

 If you have no problem with this, post away!

 Thanks,

 Mark

 -Original Message-
 From: lyndon@gmail.com [mailto:lyndon@gmail.comlyndon@gmail.com]
 On Behalf Of Lyndon Tiu
 Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 8:19 AM
 To: Sheryl Rieck
 Cc: TexasCavers
 Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving

 Sounds like a good title for a TC article.

 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Sheryl Rieck sheryl.ri...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  I started caving a bit later in life than many people and promptly became

  too busy to cave even though I had fallen in love with the peace and
 beauty

  of the caves I had visited. I have not been in a cave in 4 years, but
 almost

  no day goes by that I don’t think about caving. It is my choices that
 have

  kept me from caving. That doesn’t keep from missing it any less.

 

 

 

  As I was wading through the massive number of issues associated with a

  go-live (the ultimate goal of my projects) that was in too short a time
 span

  and with too little information, I found myself thinking yet again of
 caving

  and how I would so much prefer to be underground with a bunch of fun
 folks

  than getting my butt kicked by issues.  About this same time, the emails

  from Mark began.

 

 

 

  I agreed with the assessment of the publications becoming very
 scientific.

  I’m an accountant. I have no scientific knowledge in the realm of

  speleological studies. I don’t read those articles because they make my
 eyes

  roll back in my head and that just makes my eyes hurt. So, in an effort
 to

  give Mark an article and to give us laypeople something to read, I came
 up

  with 10 reasons I would rather be caving. I thought maybe you could send

  Mark YOUR 10 reasons you would rather be caving. Knowing the Texas caving

  community as I do, I think that the articles would be fascinating.

 

 

 

  Here are my 10:

 

 

 

  1.   The snakes are only at the entrance of a cave and look like
 snakes.

 

  2.   A traffic jam is just a good way to rest in a cave.

 

  3.   The people who annoy me most would never be able to find me in a

  cave.

 

  4.   My laptop cannot get a signal in a cave. That is my story and I
 am

  sticking to it no matter what.

 

  5.   My cell phone cannot get a signal in a cave. Ditto sticking to
 it.

 

  6.   Saying you have been mapping a cave sounds more interesting than

  saying you have been mapping a chart of accounts.

 

  7.   Mapping a cave IS more interesting than mapping a chart of

  accounts.

 

  8.   When I am in the dark in a cave that is the way it is supposed
 to

  be.

 

  9.   I have met some interesting, entertaining, and/or incredibly odd

  people on caving trips and that is just fun.

 

  10.   I am usually not the strangest person in the group.

 

 

 

  I cannot wait to see what others’ 10 reasons are that they would rather
 be

  caving. I have read some truly amazing words from so many of you. You are

  verbose, imaginative, and clever people and I think your 10 reasons
 would be

  worth a read.

 

 

 

  Disclaimer: Not all submissions will be published and you know why.


 --

 Lyndon Tiu

 -

 Visit our website: http

RE: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving

2012-05-22 Thread Fritz Holt
Mallory,

Cool recollections from a gung ho caver who looks damn good in a wetsuit. Most 
of us have been there and experienced the excitement of entering a cave, old or 
new. For most of us the best part of caving is the camaraderie with fellow 
caver friends.
KEEP ON CAVING!

Fritz, an old spelunker


From: Mallory Mayeux [mailto:mmay...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 9:10 AM
To: mark.al...@l-3com.com
Cc: Lyndon Tiu; Sheryl Rieck; TexasCavers
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving

Mark,

You took my best reason!

Here goes my list: (both playful and serious.)

The smell of cave dirt  brings back the BEST memories. (I began caving in 
college, at Mammoth Cave, the first time I was ever really away from home. When 
I take a deep breath underground, suddenly I'm 19 again, tasting my first 
freedom, and life's possibilities are endless.)

There is nothing like a 12+ hour cave trip to run your mind blank, and just 
exist in the moment.

Caving gear is my indulgence. Ordering a shiny pantin, a thick coil of new 11 
mm rope, a colorful new Rutherford pack, chunky boots...bliss! I love them all 
and can't wait to put them to good use!

The fear you feel when you're stepping off the side of a tall pit makes you 
feel alive.

If society collapses I know ALL the best hideouts.

The people. Cavers have been my best friends, significant others, inspirations. 
And of course, some of the weirdest people that I've ever
met! Not a day goes by that I don't thank God and whatever stars aligned that I 
fell into caving and became one of you wackos. :)

The couch at Deep/Punkin is the comfiest one I've ever slept on.

Getting to cave entrances puts my RAV4's 4x4 capabilities to good use. Probably 
the ONLY time I get to use that feature.

If I go caving, I usually go west. And when I go west, sometimes I see cactus. 
And cactus is really cool.

I look damn good in a wetsuit. Honey Creek Tank Haul, baby!

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:22 AM, 
mark.al...@l-3com.commailto:mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote:

Damn! You figured out Sheryl and my ulterior motive, Lyndon!

As Sheryl stated, please be aware that your responses can/will be used in the 
next issue of The TEXAS CAVER.

If you have no problem with this, post away!


Thanks,

Mark

-Original Message-
From: lyndon@gmail.commailto:lyndon@gmail.com 
[mailto:lyndon@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Lyndon Tiu
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 8:19 AM
To: Sheryl Rieck
Cc: TexasCavers
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving

Sounds like a good title for a TC article.

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Sheryl Rieck 
sheryl.ri...@gmail.commailto:sheryl.ri...@gmail.com wrote:

 I started caving a bit later in life than many people and promptly became

 too busy to cave even though I had fallen in love with the peace and beauty

 of the caves I had visited. I have not been in a cave in 4 years, but almost

 no day goes by that I don't think about caving. It is my choices that have

 kept me from caving. That doesn't keep from missing it any less.







 As I was wading through the massive number of issues associated with a

 go-live (the ultimate goal of my projects) that was in too short a time span

 and with too little information, I found myself thinking yet again of caving

 and how I would so much prefer to be underground with a bunch of fun folks

 than getting my butt kicked by issues.  About this same time, the emails

 from Mark began.







 I agreed with the assessment of the publications becoming very scientific.

 I'm an accountant. I have no scientific knowledge in the realm of

 speleological studies. I don't read those articles because they make my eyes

 roll back in my head and that just makes my eyes hurt. So, in an effort to

 give Mark an article and to give us laypeople something to read, I came up

 with 10 reasons I would rather be caving. I thought maybe you could send

 Mark YOUR 10 reasons you would rather be caving. Knowing the Texas caving

 community as I do, I think that the articles would be fascinating.







 Here are my 10:







 1.   The snakes are only at the entrance of a cave and look like snakes.



 2.   A traffic jam is just a good way to rest in a cave.



 3.   The people who annoy me most would never be able to find me in a

 cave.



 4.   My laptop cannot get a signal in a cave. That is my story and I am

 sticking to it no matter what.



 5.   My cell phone cannot get a signal in a cave. Ditto sticking to it.



 6.   Saying you have been mapping a cave sounds more interesting than

 saying you have been mapping a chart of accounts.



 7.   Mapping a cave IS more interesting than mapping a chart of

 accounts.



 8.   When I am in the dark in a cave that is the way it is supposed to

 be.



 9.   I have met some interesting, entertaining, and/or incredibly odd

 people on caving trips and that is just fun

Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving

2012-05-22 Thread Lyndon Tiu
Cavers are good people.
I get to go camping for cheap surrrounded by good people.
I get to do something fun and exciting with good people.
I get good food prepared by good people.
I get to hang with beautiful good people.

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:22 AM,  mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote:
 Damn! You figured out Sheryl and my ulterior motive, Lyndon!

 As Sheryl stated, please be aware that your responses can/will be used in
 the next issue of The TEXAS CAVER.

 If you have no problem with this, post away!


 Thanks,

 Mark

 -Original Message-
 From: lyndon@gmail.com [mailto:lyndon@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Lyndon
 Tiu
 Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 8:19 AM
 To: Sheryl Rieck
 Cc: TexasCavers
 Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving

 Sounds like a good title for a TC article.

 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Sheryl Rieck sheryl.ri...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I started caving a bit later in life than many people and promptly became

 too busy to cave even though I had fallen in love with the peace and
 beauty

 of the caves I had visited. I have not been in a cave in 4 years, but
 almost

 no day goes by that I don’t think about caving. It is my choices that have

 kept me from caving. That doesn’t keep from missing it any less.







 As I was wading through the massive number of issues associated with a

 go-live (the ultimate goal of my projects) that was in too short a time
 span

 and with too little information, I found myself thinking yet again of
 caving

 and how I would so much prefer to be underground with a bunch of fun folks

 than getting my butt kicked by issues.  About this same time, the emails

 from Mark began.







 I agreed with the assessment of the publications becoming very scientific.

 I’m an accountant. I have no scientific knowledge in the realm of

 speleological studies. I don’t read those articles because they make my
 eyes

 roll back in my head and that just makes my eyes hurt. So, in an effort to

 give Mark an article and to give us laypeople something to read, I came up

 with 10 reasons I would rather be caving. I thought maybe you could send

 Mark YOUR 10 reasons you would rather be caving. Knowing the Texas caving

 community as I do, I think that the articles would be fascinating.







 Here are my 10:







 1.   The snakes are only at the entrance of a cave and look like
 snakes.



 2.   A traffic jam is just a good way to rest in a cave.



 3.   The people who annoy me most would never be able to find me in a

 cave.



 4.   My laptop cannot get a signal in a cave. That is my story and I
 am

 sticking to it no matter what.



 5.   My cell phone cannot get a signal in a cave. Ditto sticking to
 it.



 6.   Saying you have been mapping a cave sounds more interesting than

 saying you have been mapping a chart of accounts.



 7.   Mapping a cave IS more interesting than mapping a chart of

 accounts.



 8.   When I am in the dark in a cave that is the way it is supposed to

 be.



 9.   I have met some interesting, entertaining, and/or incredibly odd

 people on caving trips and that is just fun.



 10.   I am usually not the strangest person in the group.







 I cannot wait to see what others’ 10 reasons are that they would rather be

 caving. I have read some truly amazing words from so many of you. You are

 verbose, imaginative, and clever people and I think your 10 reasons would
 be

 worth a read.







 Disclaimer: Not all submissions will be published and you know why.



 --

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Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving

2012-05-22 Thread Nico Escamilla
That's only four Lyndon, come on.. you can do better than that.

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Lyndon Tiu l...@alumni.sfu.ca wrote:

 Cavers are good people.
 I get to go camping for cheap surrrounded by good people.
 I get to do something fun and exciting with good people.
 I get good food prepared by good people.
 I get to hang with beautiful good people.

 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:22 AM,  mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote:
  Damn! You figured out Sheryl and my ulterior motive, Lyndon!
 
  As Sheryl stated, please be aware that your responses can/will be used in
  the next issue of The TEXAS CAVER.
 
  If you have no problem with this, post away!
 
 
  Thanks,
 
  Mark
 
  -Original Message-
  From: lyndon@gmail.com [mailto:lyndon@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
 Lyndon
  Tiu
  Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 8:19 AM
  To: Sheryl Rieck
  Cc: TexasCavers
  Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving
 
  Sounds like a good title for a TC article.
 
  On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Sheryl Rieck sheryl.ri...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  I started caving a bit later in life than many people and promptly
 became
 
  too busy to cave even though I had fallen in love with the peace and
  beauty
 
  of the caves I had visited. I have not been in a cave in 4 years, but
  almost
 
  no day goes by that I don’t think about caving. It is my choices that
 have
 
  kept me from caving. That doesn’t keep from missing it any less.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  As I was wading through the massive number of issues associated with a
 
  go-live (the ultimate goal of my projects) that was in too short a time
  span
 
  and with too little information, I found myself thinking yet again of
  caving
 
  and how I would so much prefer to be underground with a bunch of fun
 folks
 
  than getting my butt kicked by issues.  About this same time, the emails
 
  from Mark began.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  I agreed with the assessment of the publications becoming very
 scientific.
 
  I’m an accountant. I have no scientific knowledge in the realm of
 
  speleological studies. I don’t read those articles because they make my
  eyes
 
  roll back in my head and that just makes my eyes hurt. So, in an effort
 to
 
  give Mark an article and to give us laypeople something to read, I came
 up
 
  with 10 reasons I would rather be caving. I thought maybe you could send
 
  Mark YOUR 10 reasons you would rather be caving. Knowing the Texas
 caving
 
  community as I do, I think that the articles would be fascinating.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Here are my 10:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  1.   The snakes are only at the entrance of a cave and look like
  snakes.
 
 
 
  2.   A traffic jam is just a good way to rest in a cave.
 
 
 
  3.   The people who annoy me most would never be able to find me in
 a
 
  cave.
 
 
 
  4.   My laptop cannot get a signal in a cave. That is my story and I
  am
 
  sticking to it no matter what.
 
 
 
  5.   My cell phone cannot get a signal in a cave. Ditto sticking to
  it.
 
 
 
  6.   Saying you have been mapping a cave sounds more interesting
 than
 
  saying you have been mapping a chart of accounts.
 
 
 
  7.   Mapping a cave IS more interesting than mapping a chart of
 
  accounts.
 
 
 
  8.   When I am in the dark in a cave that is the way it is supposed
 to
 
  be.
 
 
 
  9.   I have met some interesting, entertaining, and/or incredibly
 odd
 
  people on caving trips and that is just fun.
 
 
 
  10.   I am usually not the strangest person in the group.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  I cannot wait to see what others’ 10 reasons are that they would rather
 be
 
  caving. I have read some truly amazing words from so many of you. You
 are
 
  verbose, imaginative, and clever people and I think your 10 reasons
 would
  be
 
  worth a read.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Disclaimer: Not all submissions will be published and you know why.
 
 
 
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Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving

2012-05-22 Thread Mallory Mayeux
Hey Nico, where's your list? 4 reasons is better than zero! :)

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Nico Escamilla pitboun...@gmail.comwrote:

 That's only four Lyndon, come on.. you can do better than that.


 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Lyndon Tiu l...@alumni.sfu.ca wrote:

 Cavers are good people.
 I get to go camping for cheap surrrounded by good people.
 I get to do something fun and exciting with good people.
 I get good food prepared by good people.
 I get to hang with beautiful good people.

 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:22 AM,  mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote:
  Damn! You figured out Sheryl and my ulterior motive, Lyndon!
 
  As Sheryl stated, please be aware that your responses can/will be used
 in
  the next issue of The TEXAS CAVER.
 
  If you have no problem with this, post away!
 
 
  Thanks,
 
  Mark
 
  -Original Message-
  From: lyndon@gmail.com [mailto:lyndon@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
 Lyndon
  Tiu
  Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 8:19 AM
  To: Sheryl Rieck
  Cc: TexasCavers
  Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving
 
  Sounds like a good title for a TC article.
 
  On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Sheryl Rieck sheryl.ri...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  I started caving a bit later in life than many people and promptly
 became
 
  too busy to cave even though I had fallen in love with the peace and
  beauty
 
  of the caves I had visited. I have not been in a cave in 4 years, but
  almost
 
  no day goes by that I don’t think about caving. It is my choices that
 have
 
  kept me from caving. That doesn’t keep from missing it any less.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  As I was wading through the massive number of issues associated with a
 
  go-live (the ultimate goal of my projects) that was in too short a time
  span
 
  and with too little information, I found myself thinking yet again of
  caving
 
  and how I would so much prefer to be underground with a bunch of fun
 folks
 
  than getting my butt kicked by issues.  About this same time, the
 emails
 
  from Mark began.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  I agreed with the assessment of the publications becoming very
 scientific.
 
  I’m an accountant. I have no scientific knowledge in the realm of
 
  speleological studies. I don’t read those articles because they make my
  eyes
 
  roll back in my head and that just makes my eyes hurt. So, in an
 effort to
 
  give Mark an article and to give us laypeople something to read, I
 came up
 
  with 10 reasons I would rather be caving. I thought maybe you could
 send
 
  Mark YOUR 10 reasons you would rather be caving. Knowing the Texas
 caving
 
  community as I do, I think that the articles would be fascinating.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Here are my 10:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  1.   The snakes are only at the entrance of a cave and look like
  snakes.
 
 
 
  2.   A traffic jam is just a good way to rest in a cave.
 
 
 
  3.   The people who annoy me most would never be able to find me
 in a
 
  cave.
 
 
 
  4.   My laptop cannot get a signal in a cave. That is my story and
 I
  am
 
  sticking to it no matter what.
 
 
 
  5.   My cell phone cannot get a signal in a cave. Ditto sticking to
  it.
 
 
 
  6.   Saying you have been mapping a cave sounds more interesting
 than
 
  saying you have been mapping a chart of accounts.
 
 
 
  7.   Mapping a cave IS more interesting than mapping a chart of
 
  accounts.
 
 
 
  8.   When I am in the dark in a cave that is the way it is
 supposed to
 
  be.
 
 
 
  9.   I have met some interesting, entertaining, and/or incredibly
 odd
 
  people on caving trips and that is just fun.
 
 
 
  10.   I am usually not the strangest person in the group.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  I cannot wait to see what others’ 10 reasons are that they would
 rather be
 
  caving. I have read some truly amazing words from so many of you. You
 are
 
  verbose, imaginative, and clever people and I think your 10 reasons
 would
  be
 
  worth a read.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Disclaimer: Not all submissions will be published and you know why.
 
 
 
  --
 
  Lyndon Tiu
 
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Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving

2012-05-22 Thread germanyj
He could have at least mentioned he met his wife while caving ;)



-Original Message-
From: Nico Escamilla pitboun...@gmail.com
To: Lyndon Tiu l...@alumni.sfu.ca
Cc: TexasCavers texascavers@texascavers.com
Sent: Tue, May 22, 2012 9:36 am
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving


That's only four Lyndon, come on.. you can do better than that.


On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Lyndon Tiu l...@alumni.sfu.ca wrote:

Cavers are good people.
I get to go camping for cheap surrrounded by good people.
I get to do something fun and exciting with good people.
I get good food prepared by good people.
I get to hang with beautiful good people.


On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:22 AM,  mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote:
 Damn! You figured out Sheryl and my ulterior motive, Lyndon!

 As Sheryl stated, please be aware that your responses can/will be used in
 the next issue of The TEXAS CAVER.

 If you have no problem with this, post away!


 Thanks,

 Mark

 -Original Message-
 From: lyndon@gmail.com [mailto:lyndon@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Lyndon
 Tiu
 Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 8:19 AM
 To: Sheryl Rieck
 Cc: TexasCavers
 Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving

 Sounds like a good title for a TC article.

 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Sheryl Rieck sheryl.ri...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I started caving a bit later in life than many people and promptly became

 too busy to cave even though I had fallen in love with the peace and
 beauty

 of the caves I had visited. I have not been in a cave in 4 years, but
 almost

 no day goes by that I don’t think about caving. It is my choices that have

 kept me from caving. That doesn’t keep from missing it any less.







 As I was wading through the massive number of issues associated with a

 go-live (the ultimate goal of my projects) that was in too short a time
 span

 and with too little information, I found myself thinking yet again of
 caving

 and how I would so much prefer to be underground with a bunch of fun folks

 than getting my butt kicked by issues.  About this same time, the emails

 from Mark began.







 I agreed with the assessment of the publications becoming very scientific.

 I’m an accountant. I have no scientific knowledge in the realm of

 speleological studies. I don’t read those articles because they make my
 eyes

 roll back in my head and that just makes my eyes hurt. So, in an effort to

 give Mark an article and to give us laypeople something to read, I came up

 with 10 reasons I would rather be caving. I thought maybe you could send

 Mark YOUR 10 reasons you would rather be caving. Knowing the Texas caving

 community as I do, I think that the articles would be fascinating.







 Here are my 10:







 1.   The snakes are only at the entrance of a cave and look like
 snakes.



 2.   A traffic jam is just a good way to rest in a cave.



 3.   The people who annoy me most would never be able to find me in a

 cave.



 4.   My laptop cannot get a signal in a cave. That is my story and I
 am

 sticking to it no matter what.



 5.   My cell phone cannot get a signal in a cave. Ditto sticking to
 it.



 6.   Saying you have been mapping a cave sounds more interesting than

 saying you have been mapping a chart of accounts.



 7.   Mapping a cave IS more interesting than mapping a chart of

 accounts.



 8.   When I am in the dark in a cave that is the way it is supposed to

 be.



 9.   I have met some interesting, entertaining, and/or incredibly odd

 people on caving trips and that is just fun.



 10.   I am usually not the strangest person in the group.







 I cannot wait to see what others’ 10 reasons are that they would rather be

 caving. I have read some truly amazing words from so many of you. You are

 verbose, imaginative, and clever people and I think your 10 reasons would
 be

 worth a read.







 Disclaimer: Not all submissions will be published and you know why.



 --

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Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving

2012-05-22 Thread Nico Escamilla
Nah, dont ask me. I do it for selfish non scientific purposes, bragging
rights, among other things.

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Mallory Mayeux mmay...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey Nico, where's your list? 4 reasons is better than zero! :)


 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Nico Escamilla pitboun...@gmail.comwrote:

 That's only four Lyndon, come on.. you can do better than that.


 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Lyndon Tiu l...@alumni.sfu.ca wrote:

 Cavers are good people.
 I get to go camping for cheap surrrounded by good people.
 I get to do something fun and exciting with good people.
 I get good food prepared by good people.
 I get to hang with beautiful good people.

 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:22 AM,  mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote:
  Damn! You figured out Sheryl and my ulterior motive, Lyndon!
 
  As Sheryl stated, please be aware that your responses can/will be used
 in
  the next issue of The TEXAS CAVER.
 
  If you have no problem with this, post away!
 
 
  Thanks,
 
  Mark
 
  -Original Message-
  From: lyndon@gmail.com [mailto:lyndon@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
 Lyndon
  Tiu
  Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 8:19 AM
  To: Sheryl Rieck
  Cc: TexasCavers
  Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving
 
  Sounds like a good title for a TC article.
 
  On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Sheryl Rieck sheryl.ri...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  I started caving a bit later in life than many people and promptly
 became
 
  too busy to cave even though I had fallen in love with the peace and
  beauty
 
  of the caves I had visited. I have not been in a cave in 4 years, but
  almost
 
  no day goes by that I don’t think about caving. It is my choices that
 have
 
  kept me from caving. That doesn’t keep from missing it any less.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  As I was wading through the massive number of issues associated with a
 
  go-live (the ultimate goal of my projects) that was in too short a
 time
  span
 
  and with too little information, I found myself thinking yet again of
  caving
 
  and how I would so much prefer to be underground with a bunch of fun
 folks
 
  than getting my butt kicked by issues.  About this same time, the
 emails
 
  from Mark began.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  I agreed with the assessment of the publications becoming very
 scientific.
 
  I’m an accountant. I have no scientific knowledge in the realm of
 
  speleological studies. I don’t read those articles because they make
 my
  eyes
 
  roll back in my head and that just makes my eyes hurt. So, in an
 effort to
 
  give Mark an article and to give us laypeople something to read, I
 came up
 
  with 10 reasons I would rather be caving. I thought maybe you could
 send
 
  Mark YOUR 10 reasons you would rather be caving. Knowing the Texas
 caving
 
  community as I do, I think that the articles would be fascinating.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Here are my 10:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  1.   The snakes are only at the entrance of a cave and look like
  snakes.
 
 
 
  2.   A traffic jam is just a good way to rest in a cave.
 
 
 
  3.   The people who annoy me most would never be able to find me
 in a
 
  cave.
 
 
 
  4.   My laptop cannot get a signal in a cave. That is my story
 and I
  am
 
  sticking to it no matter what.
 
 
 
  5.   My cell phone cannot get a signal in a cave. Ditto sticking
 to
  it.
 
 
 
  6.   Saying you have been mapping a cave sounds more interesting
 than
 
  saying you have been mapping a chart of accounts.
 
 
 
  7.   Mapping a cave IS more interesting than mapping a chart of
 
  accounts.
 
 
 
  8.   When I am in the dark in a cave that is the way it is
 supposed to
 
  be.
 
 
 
  9.   I have met some interesting, entertaining, and/or incredibly
 odd
 
  people on caving trips and that is just fun.
 
 
 
  10.   I am usually not the strangest person in the group.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  I cannot wait to see what others’ 10 reasons are that they would
 rather be
 
  caving. I have read some truly amazing words from so many of you. You
 are
 
  verbose, imaginative, and clever people and I think your 10 reasons
 would
  be
 
  worth a read.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Disclaimer: Not all submissions will be published and you know why.
 
 
 
  --
 
  Lyndon Tiu
 
  -
 
  Visit our website: http://texascavers.com
 
  To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com
 
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Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving

2012-05-22 Thread Andy Gluesenkamp
He's not the only one!  
In fact, I think you we on that trip, Julia.

Andrew G. Gluesenkamp, Ph.D.

700 Billie Brooks Drive

Driftwood, Texas 78619

(512) 799-1095

a...@gluesenkamp.com

--- On Tue, 5/22/12, germa...@aol.com germa...@aol.com wrote:

From: germa...@aol.com germa...@aol.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving
To: pitboun...@gmail.com, l...@alumni.sfu.ca
Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Tuesday, May 22, 2012, 9:40 AM

He could have at least mentioned he met his wife while caving ;)










-Original Message-


From: Nico Escamilla pitboun...@gmail.com


To: Lyndon Tiu l...@alumni.sfu.ca


Cc: TexasCavers texascavers@texascavers.com


Sent: Tue, May 22, 2012 9:36 am


Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving















That's only four Lyndon, come on.. you can do better than that.







On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Lyndon Tiu l...@alumni.sfu.ca wrote:




Cavers are good people.



I get to go camping for cheap surrrounded by good people.



I get to do something fun and exciting with good people.



I get good food prepared by good people.



I get to hang with beautiful good people.











On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:22 AM,  mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote:



 Damn! You figured out Sheryl and my ulterior motive, Lyndon!







 As Sheryl stated, please be aware that your responses can/will be used in



 the next issue of The TEXAS CAVER.







 If you have no problem with this, post away!











 Thanks,







 Mark







 -Original Message-



 From: lyndon@gmail.com [mailto:lyndon@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Lyndon



 Tiu



 Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 8:19 AM



 To: Sheryl Rieck



 Cc: TexasCavers



 Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving







 Sounds like a good title for a TC article.







 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Sheryl Rieck sheryl.ri...@gmail.com



 wrote:







 I started caving a bit later in life than many people and promptly became







 too busy to cave even though I had fallen in love with the peace and



 beauty







 of the caves I had visited. I have not been in a cave in 4 years, but



 almost







 no day goes by that I don’t think about caving. It is my choices that have







 kept me from caving. That doesn’t keep from missing it any less.































 As I was wading through the massive number of issues associated with a







 go-live (the ultimate goal of my projects) that was in too short a time



 span







 and with too little information, I found myself thinking yet again of



 caving







 and how I would so much prefer to be underground with a bunch of fun folks







 than getting my butt kicked by issues.  About this same time, the emails







 from Mark began.































 I agreed with the assessment of the publications becoming very scientific.







 I’m an accountant. I have no scientific knowledge in the realm of







 speleological studies. I don’t read those articles because they make my



 eyes







 roll back in my head and that just makes my eyes hurt. So, in an effort to







 give Mark an article and to give us laypeople something to read, I came up







 with 10 reasons I would rather be caving. I thought maybe you could send







 Mark YOUR 10 reasons you would rather be caving. Knowing the Texas caving







 community as I do, I think that the articles would be fascinating.































 Here are my 10:































 1.   The snakes are only at the entrance of a cave and look like



 snakes.















 2.   A traffic jam is just a good way to rest in a cave.















 3.   The people who annoy me most would never be able to find me in a







 cave.















 4.   My laptop cannot get a signal in a cave. That is my story and I



 am







 sticking to it no matter what.















 5.   My cell phone cannot get a signal in a cave. Ditto sticking to



 it.















 6.   Saying you have been mapping a cave sounds more interesting than







 saying you have been mapping a chart of accounts.















 7.   Mapping a cave IS more interesting than mapping a chart of







 accounts.















 8.   When I am in the dark in a cave that is the way it is supposed to







 be.















 9.   I have met some interesting, entertaining, and/or incredibly odd







 people on caving trips and that is just fun.















 10.   I am usually not the strangest person in the group.































 I cannot wait to see what others’ 10 reasons are that they would rather be







 caving. I have read some truly amazing words from so many of you. You are







 verbose, imaginative, and clever people and I think your 10 reasons would



 be







 worth a read

Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving

2012-05-22 Thread Bill Bentley
I go caving because:
1. I get to enjoy Nature's Central Air... Cool in the Summer and warm in 
Winter...
2. It gets me out of Midland.
3. I get to see my friends.
4. 90% of the time I get to go camping
5. I usually don't eat food that is good for me, but it tastes good.
6. I can not think about work when caving.
7. I always learn something new on every trip.
8. I love to take pictures and this gives me an excuse to take cave pictures.
9. Going caving make my co-workers think I am weird, and that is fine by me.
10.. I just love caves

  - Original Message - 
  From: germa...@aol.com 
  To: pitboun...@gmail.com ; l...@alumni.sfu.ca 
  Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 9:40 AM
  Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving


  He could have at least mentioned he met his wife while caving ;)



  -Original Message-
  From: Nico Escamilla pitboun...@gmail.com
  To: Lyndon Tiu l...@alumni.sfu.ca
  Cc: TexasCavers texascavers@texascavers.com
  Sent: Tue, May 22, 2012 9:36 am
  Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving


  That's only four Lyndon, come on.. you can do better than that.


  On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Lyndon Tiu l...@alumni.sfu.ca wrote:

Cavers are good people.
I get to go camping for cheap surrrounded by good people.
I get to do something fun and exciting with good people.
I get good food prepared by good people.
I get to hang with beautiful good people.


On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:22 AM,  mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote:
 Damn! You figured out Sheryl and my ulterior motive, Lyndon!

 As Sheryl stated, please be aware that your responses can/will be used in
 the next issue of The TEXAS CAVER.

 If you have no problem with this, post away!


 Thanks,

 Mark

 -Original Message-
 From: lyndon@gmail.com [mailto:lyndon@gmail.com] On Behalf Of 
Lyndon
 Tiu
 Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 8:19 AM
 To: Sheryl Rieck
 Cc: TexasCavers
 Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 10 Reasons I Would Rather Be Caving

 Sounds like a good title for a TC article.

 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Sheryl Rieck sheryl.ri...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I started caving a bit later in life than many people and promptly became

 too busy to cave even though I had fallen in love with the peace and
 beauty

 of the caves I had visited. I have not been in a cave in 4 years, but
 almost

 no day goes by that I don’t think about caving. It is my choices that 
have

 kept me from caving. That doesn’t keep from missing it any less.







 As I was wading through the massive number of issues associated with a

 go-live (the ultimate goal of my projects) that was in too short a time
 span

 and with too little information, I found myself thinking yet again of
 caving

 and how I would so much prefer to be underground with a bunch of fun 
folks

 than getting my butt kicked by issues.  About this same time, the emails

 from Mark began.







 I agreed with the assessment of the publications becoming very 
scientific.

 I’m an accountant. I have no scientific knowledge in the realm of

 speleological studies. I don’t read those articles because they make my
 eyes

 roll back in my head and that just makes my eyes hurt. So, in an effort 
to

 give Mark an article and to give us laypeople something to read, I came 
up

 with 10 reasons I would rather be caving. I thought maybe you could send

 Mark YOUR 10 reasons you would rather be caving. Knowing the Texas caving

 community as I do, I think that the articles would be fascinating.







 Here are my 10:







 1.   The snakes are only at the entrance of a cave and look like
 snakes.



 2.   A traffic jam is just a good way to rest in a cave.



 3.   The people who annoy me most would never be able to find me in a

 cave.



 4.   My laptop cannot get a signal in a cave. That is my story and I
 am

 sticking to it no matter what.



 5.   My cell phone cannot get a signal in a cave. Ditto sticking to
 it.



 6.   Saying you have been mapping a cave sounds more interesting than

 saying you have been mapping a chart of accounts.



 7.   Mapping a cave IS more interesting than mapping a chart of

 accounts.



 8.   When I am in the dark in a cave that is the way it is supposed 
to

 be.



 9.   I have met some interesting, entertaining, and/or incredibly odd

 people on caving