Re: [Texascavers] Candidate Cavern Entrance Northeast of Arsia Mons
I think F in this collection of images is the Arsia Mons cave from the HiRISE image. Gregg William Tucker wrote: Need some more evidence that mars is hollow? http://www.planetary.org/image/caves.jpg And you thought I was joking. :) William - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] Candidate Cavern Entrance Northeast of Arsia Mons
Need some more evidence that mars is hollow? http://www.planetary.org/image/caves.jpg And you thought I was joking. :) William - Original Message - From: "William Tucker" To: "texascavers list" Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Candidate Cavern Entrance Northeast of Arsia Mons If the scale on the cutout image is to be believed http://hiroc.lpl.arizona.edu/images/2007/details/cut/PSP_3647_1745_cut_b.jpg It is about 150 X 180 meters. But, I know the real answer here... It is obvious... Mars is hollow! William - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] Candidate Cavern Entrance Northeast of Arsia Mons
If the scale on the cutout image is to be believed http://hiroc.lpl.arizona.edu/images/2007/details/cut/PSP_3647_1745_cut_b.jpg It is about 150 X 180 meters. But, I know the real answer here... It is obvious... Mars is hollow! William - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] Candidate Cavern Entrance Northeast of Arsia Mons
>Any idea how big this thing is? > >The cutout view shows the edges real good. Looks like it was done with a paper punch. I've been watching the space program and have seen literally tens of thousands of NASA images, and this looks really bizarre. If the image scale is really 25 cm per pixel as it is for the whole image described at the bottom of the page, the hole, being about 300 pixels across, is about 75 meters in diameter. I don't know the viewing geometry. Judging from the way these HiRise images are usually taken and the way the shadow looks on the walls, the image is from directly above the pit, it is very deep, and the illuminated edge we see on the right (east) side of the hole is solar illumination reaching about 50 meters down that side. This would have to be a sinkhole into a VERY large lava tube or empty lava chamber in the side of the volcano. I know that at least on very small scales, lava can build up and expelled gases can make circular domes in underground chambers. It may be that this was just that sort of thing on a large scale, and the top has been eroded off to leave such a round hole. I thought for a moment that a meteor might do it, but a meteor actually makes its hole by an explosion, and I don't see how an explosion forcing its way through a thin roof could make such a neat round hole like that the way it can if it's exploding from underground like usual for an impact. It could though. The "sotano" is probably over 200 meters deep, or has an unusually dark floor. This would be a fabulous place to look for ice, interesting geology, and life trying to hide from harsh sunlight. It's also the perfect place to put that habitation module without fear of unshielded solar radiation. It's one of the most important features on that planet. Gregg - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] Candidate Cavern Entrance Northeast of Arsia Mons
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Re: [Texascavers] Candidate Cavern Entrance Northeast of Arsia Mons
On May 24, 2007, at 12:20 AM, David Locklear wrote: How many miles of unexplored passage are there? All of them. - Don moom...@fnbnet.net - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] Candidate Cavern Entrance Northeast of Arsia Mons
How much are the admission tickets? http://www.caver.net/other/mars.html Bill Quoting John P Brooks : The site said it would take between 6 months and 180 days to exploredepending on when your air expired. David Locklear wrote: How many miles of unexplored passage are there? - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] Candidate Cavern Entrance Northeast of Arsia Mons
So there is apparently some debate as to whether Mars caving permits are based on day-to day use of sequential consumption - postpone-able during "out time", able to last several years as opposed to beginning at a specified date and ending six months later? It might be really important to consider the Martian day is like five of theirs for seven of ours(?) and of course the sidereal mars year is longer than what our orbit takes. -WaV On 5/24/07, John P Brooks wrote: The site said it would take between 6 months and 180 days to exploredepending on when your air expired. *David Locklear * wrote: How many miles of unexplored passage are there? - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] Candidate Cavern Entrance Northeast of Arsia Mons
The site said it would take between 6 months and 180 days to exploredepending on when your air expired. David Locklear wrote: How many miles of unexplored passage are there? - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] Candidate Cavern Entrance Northeast of Arsia Mons
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Re: [Texascavers] Candidate Cavern Entrance Northeast of Arsia Mons
How many miles of unexplored passage are there? - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] Candidate Cavern Entrance Northeast of Arsia Mons
The enlarged version accessible on the website indicates it is about 150 meters wide. Jerry. In a message dated 5/23/2007 2:19:52 P.M. Central Standard Time, eda...@realtime.net writes: Any idea how big this thing is? The cutout view shows the edges real good. Looks like it was done with a paper punch. Lee H. Skinner wrote: > Another cave entrance on Mars! See this high-res picture from the Mars > Reconnaissance Orbiter! This one is amazing. > ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: [Texascavers] Candidate Cavern Entrance Northeast of Arsia Mons
Any idea how big this thing is? The cutout view shows the edges real good. Looks like it was done with a paper punch. Lee H. Skinner wrote: Another cave entrance on Mars! See this high-res picture from the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter! This one is amazing. Go to: http://hiroc.lpl.arizona.edu/images/PSP/diafotizo.php?ID=PSP_003647_1745 Then click on the Full Browse Version for a great image! - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
