Re: [Texascavers] Caverns of Sonora

2018-04-30 Thread Fritz Holt 
TSS may already have some. Check with the archivist or ask Carl Kunath. Carl 
may have some. Fritz Holt

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> On Apr 29, 2018, at 11:12 PM, Katherine Arens  wrote:
> 
> can his pictures be donated to TSS???
> 
>> On Apr 29, 2018, at 10:49 PM, Fritz Holt  wrote:
>> 
>> As Carl and I have discussed at length, Mayfield Cave (Sonora) was still 
>> quite wild and had been only recently explored when friend Jimmy Walker and
>> I along with Bob Hudson and Bob’s brother-in-law spent two days going quite 
>> deep into it after crossing the ledge. This was between December and 
>> February of 1956. Jimmy felt we had explored further than the groups before 
>> us as there
>> was no disturbed earth or visible evidence of anyone having walked or 
>> climbed there. It was the most beautifully decorated cave I have ever seen 
>> and was my greatest caving adventure. Jimmy took many pictures of this 
>> remarkable cave. Rest In Peace friend Jimmy. 
>> Fritz Holt
>> fritz...@gmail.com
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Apr 29, 2018, at 9:44 PM, Carl Kunath  wrote:
>> 
>>> That would be the “Diamond Horseshoe.”  See page 406 in 50 Years of Texas 
>>> Caving (the encyclopedia of Texas caving).  You should have a copy in your 
>>> library.
>>>  
>>> ===Carl Kunath
>>> carl.kun...@suddenlink.net
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: David
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2018 9:07 PM
>>> To: CaveTex
>>> Subject: [Texascavers] Caverns of Sonora
>>>  
>>> There are 3 or 4 cavers on this forum who have actually gone caving in 
>>> Caverns of Sonora - especially if you call "hauling out rocks," as caving.
>>>  
>>> I once was shown a rare picture of some unusual speleothem off-trail in 
>>> Sonora.  There were similar, but different pictures in the books about 
>>> Texas caves and the Texas Caver.
>>>  
>>> My very fuzzy memory was the speleothem resembled a large onion ring or a 
>>> horseshoe or both, but I may have it confused with the other off-trail 
>>> photos, since I haven't seen it in 30 years.  The speleothem and passage 
>>> area both had a special name.
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> I had an opportunity once around 1986 to go off-trail in NBC, and blew it 
>>> off, thinking I would get another chance someday.  Some of you might have 
>>> been on that trip.  I assume that part of that trip is now what the Wild 
>>> Tour visits.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> I do sincerely apologize for contributing to cavers leaving CaveTex, but I 
>>> went out of my way to ask cavers politely to ignore me and just hit the 
>>> delete button.  I have no nefarious or malicious agenda, just bored out of 
>>> my mind way out here beyond the Edge of the Caving Universe.
>>>  
>>> D.L.
>>> 
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Re: [Texascavers] Caverns of Sonora

2018-04-29 Thread Katherine Arens 
can his pictures be donated to TSS???

On Apr 29, 2018, at 10:49 PM, Fritz Holt 
mailto:fritz...@gmail.com>> wrote:

As Carl and I have discussed at length, Mayfield Cave (Sonora) was still quite 
wild and had been only recently explored when friend Jimmy Walker and
I along with Bob Hudson and Bob’s brother-in-law spent two days going quite 
deep into it after crossing the ledge. This was between December and February 
of 1956. Jimmy felt we had explored further than the groups before us as there
was no disturbed earth or visible evidence of anyone having walked or climbed 
there. It was the most beautifully decorated cave I have ever seen and was my 
greatest caving adventure. Jimmy took many pictures of this remarkable cave. 
Rest In Peace friend Jimmy.
Fritz Holt
fritz...@gmail.com

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 29, 2018, at 9:44 PM, Carl Kunath 
mailto:carl.kun...@suddenlink.net>> wrote:

That would be the “Diamond Horseshoe.”  See page 406 in 50 Years of Texas 
Caving (the encyclopedia of Texas caving).  You should have a copy in your 
library.

===Carl Kunath
carl.kun...@suddenlink.net



From: David
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2018 9:07 PM
To: CaveTex
Subject: [Texascavers] Caverns of Sonora

There are 3 or 4 cavers on this forum who have actually gone caving in Caverns 
of Sonora - especially if you call "hauling out rocks," as caving.

I once was shown a rare picture of some unusual speleothem off-trail in Sonora. 
 There were similar, but different pictures in the books about Texas caves and 
the Texas Caver.

My very fuzzy memory was the speleothem resembled a large onion ring or a 
horseshoe or both, but I may have it confused with the other off-trail photos, 
since I haven't seen it in 30 years.  The speleothem and passage area both had 
a special name.



I had an opportunity once around 1986 to go off-trail in NBC, and blew it off, 
thinking I would get another chance someday.  Some of you might have been on 
that trip.  I assume that part of that trip is now what the Wild Tour visits.


I do sincerely apologize for contributing to cavers leaving CaveTex, but I went 
out of my way to ask cavers politely to ignore me and just hit the delete 
button.  I have no nefarious or malicious agenda, just bored out of my mind way 
out here beyond the Edge of the Caving Universe.

D.L.


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Re: [Texascavers] Caverns of Sonora

2018-04-29 Thread Fritz Holt 
As Carl and I have discussed at length, Mayfield Cave (Sonora) was still quite 
wild and had been only recently explored when friend Jimmy Walker and
I along with Bob Hudson and Bob’s brother-in-law spent two days going quite 
deep into it after crossing the ledge. This was between December and February 
of 1956. Jimmy felt we had explored further than the groups before us as there
was no disturbed earth or visible evidence of anyone having walked or climbed 
there. It was the most beautifully decorated cave I have ever seen and was my 
greatest caving adventure. Jimmy took many pictures of this remarkable cave. 
Rest In Peace friend Jimmy. 
Fritz Holt
fritz...@gmail.com

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 29, 2018, at 9:44 PM, Carl Kunath  wrote:
> 
> That would be the “Diamond Horseshoe.”  See page 406 in 50 Years of Texas 
> Caving (the encyclopedia of Texas caving).  You should have a copy in your 
> library.
>  
> ===Carl Kunath
> carl.kun...@suddenlink.net
>  
>  
> From: David
> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2018 9:07 PM
> To: CaveTex
> Subject: [Texascavers] Caverns of Sonora
>  
> There are 3 or 4 cavers on this forum who have actually gone caving in 
> Caverns of Sonora - especially if you call "hauling out rocks," as caving.
>  
> I once was shown a rare picture of some unusual speleothem off-trail in 
> Sonora.  There were similar, but different pictures in the books about Texas 
> caves and the Texas Caver.
>  
> My very fuzzy memory was the speleothem resembled a large onion ring or a 
> horseshoe or both, but I may have it confused with the other off-trail 
> photos, since I haven't seen it in 30 years.  The speleothem and passage area 
> both had a special name.
>  
>  
>  
> I had an opportunity once around 1986 to go off-trail in NBC, and blew it 
> off, thinking I would get another chance someday.  Some of you might have 
> been on that trip.  I assume that part of that trip is now what the Wild Tour 
> visits.
>  
>  
> I do sincerely apologize for contributing to cavers leaving CaveTex, but I 
> went out of my way to ask cavers politely to ignore me and just hit the 
> delete button.  I have no nefarious or malicious agenda, just bored out of my 
> mind way out here beyond the Edge of the Caving Universe.
>  
> D.L.
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Re: [Texascavers] Caverns of Sonora

2018-04-29 Thread Carl Kunath 
That would be the “Diamond Horseshoe.”  See page 406 in 50 Years of Texas 
Caving (the encyclopedia of Texas caving).  You should have a copy in your 
library.

===Carl Kunath
carl.kun...@suddenlink.net





From: David
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2018 9:07 PM
To: CaveTex
Subject: [Texascavers] Caverns of Sonora

There are 3 or 4 cavers on this forum who have actually gone caving in Caverns 
of Sonora - especially if you call "hauling out rocks," as caving.

I once was shown a rare picture of some unusual speleothem off-trail in Sonora. 
 There were similar, but different pictures in the books about Texas caves and 
the Texas Caver.

My very fuzzy memory was the speleothem resembled a large onion ring or a 
horseshoe or both, but I may have it confused with the other off-trail photos, 
since I haven't seen it in 30 years.  The speleothem and passage area both had 
a special name.



I had an opportunity once around 1986 to go off-trail in NBC, and blew it off, 
thinking I would get another chance someday.  Some of you might have been on 
that trip.  I assume that part of that trip is now what the Wild Tour visits.


I do sincerely apologize for contributing to cavers leaving CaveTex, but I went 
out of my way to ask cavers politely to ignore me and just hit the delete 
button.  I have no nefarious or malicious agenda, just bored out of my mind way 
out here beyond the Edge of the Caving Universe.

D.L.



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Re: [Texascavers] Caverns of Sonora on the Weather Channel - rescheduled!

2013-07-12 Thread George Veni 
Yes. Same series and same episode name.

George


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Executive Director

National Cave and Karst Research Institute

400-1 Cascades Avenue

Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215

USA

Office: 575-887-5517

Mobile: 210-863-5919

Fax: 575-887-5523

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 Original message 
From: Charles Goldsmith 
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: 2013/07/12 20:48 (GMT-07:00)
To: George Veni 
Cc: New Mexico Cavers ,Cavers Texas 

Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Caverns of Sonora on the Weather Channel - 
rescheduled!


George, will it be on the same show?  I've setup a season pass so I don't miss 
it.

Thanks!


On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 6:08 PM, George Veni 
mailto:gv...@nckri.org>> wrote:
Last week I sent the message below. I just got a follow-up that The Weather 
Channel has rescheduled their programming.

I just checked 
http://tvlistings.zap2it.com/tv/secrets-of-the-earth/upcoming-episodes/EP01724188?aid=zap2it,
 which gives the schedule through the 22nd and Caverns of Sonora episode has 
been postponed until sometime after that. Sorry, but I don’t know when. If I 
get a new “firm” date and can let you know in time, I will.

George

-

Dear Friends,

The Weather Channel has a series called Secrets of the Earth. A few months ago, 
on behalf of NCKRI, I assisted with a segment they titled Strangest Places and 
which will at least partly feature Caverns of Sonora. Yesterday the producers 
told me that it is scheduled to air on Thursday, 11 July at 8:30 p.m. EDT. It 
will also air several other times, but any of the times may be changed at the 
last moment if there are major weather events. Details and times are supposed 
to be posted at http://www.weather.com/tv/programs/, although their on-line 
schedule didn’t work for me so I’ll just check the on-screen schedule on my TV 
that day.

The people making the video seemed like a good crew and asked a lot of great 
questions, so I’m hoping this will be quality presentation on this world class 
cave.

George

P.S.: Feel free to post or share this message with anyone you think may be 
interested.


George Veni, Ph.D.
Executive Director
National Cave and Karst Research Institute
400-1 Cascades Avenue
Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA
Office: 575-887-5517
Mobile: 210-863-5919
Fax: 575-887-5523
gv...@nckri.org<mailto:gv...@nckri.org>
www.nckri.org<http://www.nckri.org>

Re: [Texascavers] Caverns of Sonora on the Weather Channel - rescheduled!

2013-07-12 Thread George Veni 
Yes. Same series and same episode name.

George


Sent from my mobile phone



George Veni, Ph.D.

Executive Director

National Cave and Karst Research Institute

400-1 Cascades Avenue

Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215

USA

Office: 575-887-5517

Mobile: 210-863-5919

Fax: 575-887-5523

gv...@nckri.org

www.nckri.org




 Original message 
From: Charles Goldsmith 
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: 2013/07/12 20:48 (GMT-07:00)
To: George Veni 
Cc: New Mexico Cavers ,Cavers Texas 

Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Caverns of Sonora on the Weather Channel - 
rescheduled!


George, will it be on the same show?  I've setup a season pass so I don't miss 
it.

Thanks!


On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 6:08 PM, George Veni 
mailto:gv...@nckri.org>> wrote:
Last week I sent the message below. I just got a follow-up that The Weather 
Channel has rescheduled their programming.

I just checked 
http://tvlistings.zap2it.com/tv/secrets-of-the-earth/upcoming-episodes/EP01724188?aid=zap2it,
 which gives the schedule through the 22nd and Caverns of Sonora episode has 
been postponed until sometime after that. Sorry, but I don’t know when. If I 
get a new “firm” date and can let you know in time, I will.

George

-

Dear Friends,

The Weather Channel has a series called Secrets of the Earth. A few months ago, 
on behalf of NCKRI, I assisted with a segment they titled Strangest Places and 
which will at least partly feature Caverns of Sonora. Yesterday the producers 
told me that it is scheduled to air on Thursday, 11 July at 8:30 p.m. EDT. It 
will also air several other times, but any of the times may be changed at the 
last moment if there are major weather events. Details and times are supposed 
to be posted at http://www.weather.com/tv/programs/, although their on-line 
schedule didn’t work for me so I’ll just check the on-screen schedule on my TV 
that day.

The people making the video seemed like a good crew and asked a lot of great 
questions, so I’m hoping this will be quality presentation on this world class 
cave.

George

P.S.: Feel free to post or share this message with anyone you think may be 
interested.


George Veni, Ph.D.
Executive Director
National Cave and Karst Research Institute
400-1 Cascades Avenue
Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA
Office: 575-887-5517
Mobile: 210-863-5919
Fax: 575-887-5523
gv...@nckri.org<mailto:gv...@nckri.org>
www.nckri.org<http://www.nckri.org>

Re: [Texascavers] Caverns of Sonora on the Weather Channel - rescheduled!

2013-07-12 Thread George Veni 
Yes. Same series and same episode name.

George


Sent from my mobile phone



George Veni, Ph.D.

Executive Director

National Cave and Karst Research Institute

400-1 Cascades Avenue

Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215

USA

Office: 575-887-5517

Mobile: 210-863-5919

Fax: 575-887-5523

gv...@nckri.org

www.nckri.org




 Original message 
From: Charles Goldsmith 
Date: 2013/07/12 20:48 (GMT-07:00)
To: George Veni 
Cc: New Mexico Cavers ,Cavers Texas 

Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Caverns of Sonora on the Weather Channel - 
rescheduled!


George, will it be on the same show?  I've setup a season pass so I don't miss 
it.

Thanks!


On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 6:08 PM, George Veni 
mailto:gv...@nckri.org>> wrote:
Last week I sent the message below. I just got a follow-up that The Weather 
Channel has rescheduled their programming.

I just checked 
http://tvlistings.zap2it.com/tv/secrets-of-the-earth/upcoming-episodes/EP01724188?aid=zap2it,
 which gives the schedule through the 22nd and Caverns of Sonora episode has 
been postponed until sometime after that. Sorry, but I don’t know when. If I 
get a new “firm” date and can let you know in time, I will.

George

-

Dear Friends,

The Weather Channel has a series called Secrets of the Earth. A few months ago, 
on behalf of NCKRI, I assisted with a segment they titled Strangest Places and 
which will at least partly feature Caverns of Sonora. Yesterday the producers 
told me that it is scheduled to air on Thursday, 11 July at 8:30 p.m. EDT. It 
will also air several other times, but any of the times may be changed at the 
last moment if there are major weather events. Details and times are supposed 
to be posted at http://www.weather.com/tv/programs/, although their on-line 
schedule didn’t work for me so I’ll just check the on-screen schedule on my TV 
that day.

The people making the video seemed like a good crew and asked a lot of great 
questions, so I’m hoping this will be quality presentation on this world class 
cave.

George

P.S.: Feel free to post or share this message with anyone you think may be 
interested.


George Veni, Ph.D.
Executive Director
National Cave and Karst Research Institute
400-1 Cascades Avenue
Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA
Office: 575-887-5517
Mobile: 210-863-5919
Fax: 575-887-5523
gv...@nckri.org<mailto:gv...@nckri.org>
www.nckri.org<http://www.nckri.org>

Re: [Texascavers] Caverns of Sonora on the Weather Channel - rescheduled!

2013-07-12 Thread Charles Goldsmith 
George, will it be on the same show?  I've setup a season pass so I don't
miss it.

Thanks!


On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 6:08 PM, George Veni  wrote:

>  Last week I sent the message below. I just got a follow-up that The
> Weather Channel has rescheduled their programming. 
>
> ** **
>
> I just checked
> http://tvlistings.zap2it.com/tv/secrets-of-the-earth/upcoming-episodes/EP01724188?aid=zap2it,
> which gives the schedule through the 22nd and Caverns of Sonora episode
> has been postponed until sometime after that. Sorry, but I don’t know when.
> If I get a new “firm” date and can let you know in time, I will.
>
> ** **
>
> George
>
> ** **
>
> -
>
> ** **
>
> Dear Friends,
>
> ** **
>
> The Weather Channel has a series called *Secrets of the Earth*. A few
> months ago, on behalf of NCKRI, I assisted with a segment they titled 
> *Strangest
> Places* and which will at least partly feature Caverns of Sonora.
> Yesterday the producers told me that it is scheduled to air on Thursday, 11
> July at 8:30 p.m. EDT. It will also air several other times, but any of the
> times may be changed at the last moment if there are major weather events.
> Details and times are supposed to be posted at
> http://www.weather.com/tv/programs/, although their on-line schedule
> didn’t work for me so I’ll just check the on-screen schedule on my TV that
> day.
>
> ** **
>
> The people making the video seemed like a good crew and asked a lot of
> great questions, so I’m hoping this will be quality presentation on this
> world class cave.
>
> ** **
>
> George
>
> ** **
>
> P.S.: Feel free to post or share this message with anyone you think may be
> interested.
>
> ** **
>
> 
>
> George Veni, Ph.D.
>
> Executive Director
>
> National Cave and Karst Research Institute
>
> 400-1 Cascades Avenue
>
> Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA
>
> Office: 575-887-5517
>
> Mobile: 210-863-5919
>
> Fax: 575-887-5523
>
> gv...@nckri.org
>
> www.nckri.org
>
> ** **
>

Re: [Texascavers] Caverns of Sonora on the Weather Channel - rescheduled!

2013-07-12 Thread Charles Goldsmith 
George, will it be on the same show?  I've setup a season pass so I don't
miss it.

Thanks!


On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 6:08 PM, George Veni  wrote:

>  Last week I sent the message below. I just got a follow-up that The
> Weather Channel has rescheduled their programming. 
>
> ** **
>
> I just checked
> http://tvlistings.zap2it.com/tv/secrets-of-the-earth/upcoming-episodes/EP01724188?aid=zap2it,
> which gives the schedule through the 22nd and Caverns of Sonora episode
> has been postponed until sometime after that. Sorry, but I don’t know when.
> If I get a new “firm” date and can let you know in time, I will.
>
> ** **
>
> George
>
> ** **
>
> -
>
> ** **
>
> Dear Friends,
>
> ** **
>
> The Weather Channel has a series called *Secrets of the Earth*. A few
> months ago, on behalf of NCKRI, I assisted with a segment they titled 
> *Strangest
> Places* and which will at least partly feature Caverns of Sonora.
> Yesterday the producers told me that it is scheduled to air on Thursday, 11
> July at 8:30 p.m. EDT. It will also air several other times, but any of the
> times may be changed at the last moment if there are major weather events.
> Details and times are supposed to be posted at
> http://www.weather.com/tv/programs/, although their on-line schedule
> didn’t work for me so I’ll just check the on-screen schedule on my TV that
> day.
>
> ** **
>
> The people making the video seemed like a good crew and asked a lot of
> great questions, so I’m hoping this will be quality presentation on this
> world class cave.
>
> ** **
>
> George
>
> ** **
>
> P.S.: Feel free to post or share this message with anyone you think may be
> interested.
>
> ** **
>
> 
>
> George Veni, Ph.D.
>
> Executive Director
>
> National Cave and Karst Research Institute
>
> 400-1 Cascades Avenue
>
> Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA
>
> Office: 575-887-5517
>
> Mobile: 210-863-5919
>
> Fax: 575-887-5523
>
> gv...@nckri.org
>
> www.nckri.org
>
> ** **
>

Re: [Texascavers] Caverns of Sonora on the Weather Channel - rescheduled!

2013-07-12 Thread Charles Goldsmith 
George, will it be on the same show?  I've setup a season pass so I don't
miss it.

Thanks!


On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 6:08 PM, George Veni  wrote:

>  Last week I sent the message below. I just got a follow-up that The
> Weather Channel has rescheduled their programming. 
>
> ** **
>
> I just checked
> http://tvlistings.zap2it.com/tv/secrets-of-the-earth/upcoming-episodes/EP01724188?aid=zap2it,
> which gives the schedule through the 22nd and Caverns of Sonora episode
> has been postponed until sometime after that. Sorry, but I don’t know when.
> If I get a new “firm” date and can let you know in time, I will.
>
> ** **
>
> George
>
> ** **
>
> -
>
> ** **
>
> Dear Friends,
>
> ** **
>
> The Weather Channel has a series called *Secrets of the Earth*. A few
> months ago, on behalf of NCKRI, I assisted with a segment they titled 
> *Strangest
> Places* and which will at least partly feature Caverns of Sonora.
> Yesterday the producers told me that it is scheduled to air on Thursday, 11
> July at 8:30 p.m. EDT. It will also air several other times, but any of the
> times may be changed at the last moment if there are major weather events.
> Details and times are supposed to be posted at
> http://www.weather.com/tv/programs/, although their on-line schedule
> didn’t work for me so I’ll just check the on-screen schedule on my TV that
> day.
>
> ** **
>
> The people making the video seemed like a good crew and asked a lot of
> great questions, so I’m hoping this will be quality presentation on this
> world class cave.
>
> ** **
>
> George
>
> ** **
>
> P.S.: Feel free to post or share this message with anyone you think may be
> interested.
>
> ** **
>
> 
>
> George Veni, Ph.D.
>
> Executive Director
>
> National Cave and Karst Research Institute
>
> 400-1 Cascades Avenue
>
> Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA
>
> Office: 575-887-5517
>
> Mobile: 210-863-5919
>
> Fax: 575-887-5523
>
> gv...@nckri.org
>
> www.nckri.org
>
> ** **
>

Re: [Texascavers] Caverns of Sonora and the Cave Protection Act

2007-04-12 Thread Charles Goldsmith 

In an effort to get some more attention to the theft worldwide, I posted a
link to the popular news site http://digg.com

If you have an account there, please digg the following article.  Once it
hits enough "diggs", it should be moved to the front page, where it will be
seen by hundreds of thousands if not more.

http://digg.com/environment/Priceless_Texas_cave_formation_damaged_and_stolen

If it hits the front page, it has a better chance of being picked up by
other news agencies.

Charles

On 3/30/07, Ed Mayfield  wrote:


To Whom it May Concern,
  I am working with Isaac Albarado, Representative Hildebran's Chief of
Staff, to get some information together for a hearing that will be in
Austin
on Tuesday to help pass an amendment that will strengthen the Cave
Protection Act. They have requested that we get letters from anyone in the
Caving World and any concerned individuals to write about why this is
important and how they have a personal interest in this amendment being
passed. If you would not mind and have the time, we would like to have a
letter from you to take to the hearing.
  Here is just a short summary of what Brad Wuest wrote in an email to the
Chief of Staff for Representative Hildebran.
"We feel the amendments to the Cavern Protection act will be very
helpful in further protecting Texas caves.  Cavern systems and the
formations within are irreplaceable natural wonders and resources, such as
the beautiful Caverns of Sonora in your district.  The damage and theft of
the wing of their famous ³Butterfly² formation was a tragedy.  We feel the
amendments will help prevent such a senseless act in the future and if one
does occur the greater level of punishment for a first offense will merit
higher priority from law enforcement officials.  As stated by Comal Co.
District Attorney Dib Waldrip, the amendments will also harmonize the act
and bring it up to date from its original filing in 1979."
  Anything you would like to say or change would be great, we want each
letter to have some sort of personal interest or concern.  If you need
anything else or would like me to draft a compete letter for others to
look
at I will do so, feel free to call or email with any questions or
concerns.
These letters will be going to Austin Monday night to be presented
Tuesday.
Thank you very much for your time and help.

   Ed Mayfield
   Caverns of Sonora
   325-387-5834
cavernsofson...@cavernsofsonora.com
   edmayfi...@mac.com




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Re: [Texascavers] Caverns of Sonora restoration announcement!

2007-03-26 Thread Daniel Hogenauer 
George,
Add me to your list, please.
Dan


>From: George Veni 
>Reply-To: Texascavers@texascavers.com
>To: Texas Cavers 
>Subject: [Texascavers] Caverns of Sonora restoration announcement!
>Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 15:33:09 -0500
>
>This year's Caverns of Sonora Restoration will be held on Saturday,
>November 12th, 2005. Normally I announce the date by mid-September but I've
>been out of the country for some time and when I returned the owners were
>initially too busy with flood evacuees to figure out which date worked best
>for them.
>
>For details on what the project will involve, visit the TSA website:
>http://www.cavetexas.org/sonorar.html
>
>The announcement there is from 2002, but the information is basically the
>same except for the dates. There are 70 slots to fill and I'll hold 10 for
>out-of-state cavers until midnight this Saturday, October 8th. Please
>remember to contact me ASAP if you need to cancel.
>
>One last note, for the past few years I've sent notices about the project
>through CaveTex. I greatly appreciate Judy and Tom White's dedication and
>efforts to make that service available to all cavers. However, if you are
>not aware, CaveTex has been retired and efforts are being made to get
>everyone to sign up with texascavers.com. Since I don't know how many
>people are signed up on that server, I will send this notice through it and
>to as many Texas caver e-mail addresses I have readily available (my
>advance apologies to those of you who might get this message more than once
>as I post it to various and overlapping address lists). Next year I will
>only make the announcement though texascavers.com as I did with CaveTex.
>Many thanks to Bill Bentley for his work to make this service possible. To
>sign up, visit:
>http://mail.texascavers.com/mailman/listinfo/texascavers_texascavers.com
>
>Thanks,
>
>George
>
>PS: Please feel free to distribute this message to any person, server,
>newsletter, entity (domestic or extraterrestrial) you feel may be
>interested.
>
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Re: [Texascavers] Caverns of Sonora restoration announcement!

2007-03-26 Thread Ron Ralph 
But there is a TSS Board meeting on November 12th on my calendar. Should
that change?
Ron

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Subject: [Texascavers] Caverns of Sonora restoration announcement!

This year's Caverns of Sonora Restoration will be held on Saturday,
November 12th, 2005. Normally I announce the date by mid-September but I've
been out of the country for some time and when I returned the owners were
initially too busy with flood evacuees to figure out which date worked best
for them.

For details on what the project will involve, visit the TSA website:
http://www.cavetexas.org/sonorar.html

The announcement there is from 2002, but the information is basically the
same except for the dates. There are 70 slots to fill and I'll hold 10 for
out-of-state cavers until midnight this Saturday, October 8th. Please
remember to contact me ASAP if you need to cancel.

One last note, for the past few years I've sent notices about the project
through CaveTex. I greatly appreciate Judy and Tom White's dedication and
efforts to make that service available to all cavers. However, if you are
not aware, CaveTex has been retired and efforts are being made to get
everyone to sign up with texascavers.com. Since I don't know how many
people are signed up on that server, I will send this notice through it and
to as many Texas caver e-mail addresses I have readily available (my
advance apologies to those of you who might get this message more than once
as I post it to various and overlapping address lists). Next year I will
only make the announcement though texascavers.com as I did with CaveTex.
Many thanks to Bill Bentley for his work to make this service possible. To
sign up, visit:
http://mail.texascavers.com/mailman/listinfo/texascavers_texascavers.com

Thanks,

George

PS: Please feel free to distribute this message to any person, server,
newsletter, entity (domestic or extraterrestrial) you feel may be
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Re: [Texascavers] Caverns of Sonora restoration announcement!

2007-03-26 Thread J. LaRue Bills 
George,
Please put me on the list for  two people this year, Jacqui and Kel Thomas.
Thanks, Jacqui (Bills for 3 more days)


- Original Message - 
From: "George Veni" 
To: "Texas Cavers" 
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 3:33 PM
Subject: [Texascavers] Caverns of Sonora restoration announcement!


> This year's Caverns of Sonora Restoration will be held on Saturday,
> November 12th, 2005. Normally I announce the date by mid-September but
I've
> been out of the country for some time and when I returned the owners were
> initially too busy with flood evacuees to figure out which date worked
best
> for them.
>
> For details on what the project will involve, visit the TSA website:
> http://www.cavetexas.org/sonorar.html
>
> The announcement there is from 2002, but the information is basically the
> same except for the dates. There are 70 slots to fill and I'll hold 10 for
> out-of-state cavers until midnight this Saturday, October 8th. Please
> remember to contact me ASAP if you need to cancel.
>
> One last note, for the past few years I've sent notices about the project
> through CaveTex. I greatly appreciate Judy and Tom White's dedication and
> efforts to make that service available to all cavers. However, if you are
> not aware, CaveTex has been retired and efforts are being made to get
> everyone to sign up with texascavers.com. Since I don't know how many
> people are signed up on that server, I will send this notice through it
and
> to as many Texas caver e-mail addresses I have readily available (my
> advance apologies to those of you who might get this message more than
once
> as I post it to various and overlapping address lists). Next year I will
> only make the announcement though texascavers.com as I did with CaveTex.
> Many thanks to Bill Bentley for his work to make this service possible. To
> sign up, visit:
> http://mail.texascavers.com/mailman/listinfo/texascavers_texascavers.com
>
> Thanks,
>
> George
>
> PS: Please feel free to distribute this message to any person, server,
> newsletter, entity (domestic or extraterrestrial) you feel may be
> interested.
>
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Re: [Texascavers] Caverns of Sonora restoration announcement!

2007-03-26 Thread J. LaRue Bills 
Apologies to all for replying to the entire list rather than to George only.
Getting used to the new system. Sorry. Jacqui



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