Re: [Texascavers] Mystery Cave of the Month

2017-10-20 Thread DRam via Texascavers
DavidAre you referring to The Rio Grande Valley as the Concrete Valley? Or is 
this somewhere else other than?I live down here but I live nowhere near a 
"concrete city". Luckily I'm out in the country away from any city. Reynosa has 
had some violence in the past week. But things calm afterwards but then start 
back up the following week. If your strapped for money maybe you ought to try 
playing in the 8-liner machines. There is a town near me that has about 10 game 
rooms where you can gamble. They're not supposed to give out cash prizes but 
they do. And they can get away with it. But they've been trying to close them 
down but to no avail. But have a good trip. 
Daniel RamirezDramirez77@ymail.com956)5451203

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On Friday, October 20, 2017, 9:59 PM, David via Texascavers 
 wrote:

>From David Locklear

That was "Little Brehmer Cave" just outside of New Braunfels.
I have not heard if it is being protected, or if it is now in somebodies 
backyard.
A fun cave you could easily spend an hour in.   One could probably could win a 
map competition at 2018 TSA Spring Convention if it was drawn right.
It should have been protected like Ezell's Cave was, but nobody puts ringtailed 
cats high on the speleo-protection agenda.


The lady in the photo was Magdalena Espinosa-Soto, now unfortunately Magdalena 
Soto Locklear.  She is from somewhere in Mexico.   My memory is bad.  I think 
near Montemorelos.   But she considers herself from the bordertown of Reynosa.  
  
She was never inclined to be a caver.   I made a diligent but futile effort to 
slowly break her into it.  She has been in Gunnel's Cave, Alabaster Caverns, 
Sequoya Caverns, Brehmer Cave and Little Brehmer Cave, and Hotel Tanninul Cave 
( behind the pool ), and road-trips to NSS Convention in Alabama and flew to 
Bellingham with me for the NSS Convention there.  She cooked food once at 
Mexpeleo in Acahuizotla, and attended at least 3 TCR's and made salsa at the 
TSA Spring Convention held at John Knox Ranch.  She has been in the lower 
section of Cascade Caverns. She attended about six GHG meetings ( mostly just 
the Christmas Party ).  Her last GHG meeting was in 2005 held at University of 
Houston.    She was mostly my platonic road-trip companion from 1995 to 2000, 
eventhough she claimed we were "novios."   It is all a fuzzy blur now.I tried 
to teach her to rappel off a 30 foot cliff.   But never got her vertically 
competent and gave up trying.   But she excitedly still brags to all the old 
Mexican lady-friends at all the fiestas that she attends that she used to go 
explore wild dark caves with lots of bats and get dirty.   She did briefly 
explore a rarely visited tropical stream cave above the town of Chilpancingo, 
Guerrero and has been off trail on the wild tour at Grutas Las Juxtlahuaca.    
She thoroughly enjoyed hanging out with Mexican cavers at that, and still would 
enjoy that aspect of it all.
Her biggest accomplishment was hiking with me all the way from the El Abra 
highway up to the upper entrance of Cueva del Abra and back down, where we 
learned you can easily drive to within 200 yard easy walk to the upper entrance.
And she has been in Cueva La Boca south of Monterrey.
She has been a nanny for a prominent gynecologist in Sugarland for 20 years, 
but now does that part-time and works a 2nd part-time job teaching 4 year olds 
at a private day-care program.
She allegedly owns a cinder-block structure in Reynosa.   My only chance of 
ever retiring is to probably live there.
She coerced me into living far far above our means.   And now is adamant that 
our kid needs proper environment as the reason to drag us deeper into debt.
It is Friday night and I can imagine another dimension of time and space where 
I am sitting around the caver campfire.   But I am now getting back on the 
congested crazy freeway headed straight into the heart of The Concrete Valley 
to attempt one final delivery 
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Re: [Texascavers] Mystery Cave of the Month

2017-10-20 Thread MJ Gibbs via Texascavers
She's broken. You need a new one.

On Oct 20, 2017 9:59 PM, "David via Texascavers" <
texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:

> From David Locklear
>
>
> That was "Little Brehmer Cave" just outside of New Braunfels.
>
> I have not heard if it is being protected, or if it is now in somebodies
> backyard.
>
> A fun cave you could easily spend an hour in.   One could probably could
> win a map competition at 2018 TSA Spring Convention if it was drawn right.
>
> It should have been protected like Ezell's Cave was, but nobody puts
> ringtailed cats high on the speleo-protection agenda.
>
>
>
> The lady in the photo was Magdalena Espinosa-Soto, now unfortunately
> Magdalena Soto Locklear.  She is from somewhere in Mexico.   My memory is
> bad.  I think near Montemorelos.   But she considers herself from the
> bordertown of Reynosa.
>
> She was never inclined to be a caver.   I made a diligent but futile
> effort to slowly break her into it.  She has been in Gunnel's Cave,
> Alabaster Caverns, Sequoya Caverns, Brehmer Cave and Little Brehmer Cave,
> and Hotel Tanninul Cave ( behind the pool ), and road-trips to NSS
> Convention in Alabama and flew to Bellingham with me for the NSS Convention
> there.  She cooked food once at Mexpeleo in Acahuizotla, and attended at
> least 3 TCR's and made salsa at the TSA Spring Convention held at John Knox
> Ranch.  She has been in the lower section of Cascade Caverns. She attended
> about six GHG meetings ( mostly just the Christmas Party ).  Her last GHG
> meeting was in 2005 held at University of Houston.She was mostly my
> platonic road-trip companion from 1995 to 2000, eventhough she claimed we
> were "novios."   It is all a fuzzy blur now.
> I tried to teach her to rappel off a 30 foot cliff.   But never got her
> vertically competent and gave up trying.   But she excitedly still brags to
> all the old Mexican lady-friends at all the fiestas that she attends that
> she used to go explore wild dark caves with lots of bats and get dirty.
>  She did briefly explore a rarely visited tropical stream cave above the
> town of Chilpancingo, Guerrero and has been off trail on the wild tour at
> Grutas Las Juxtlahuaca.She thoroughly enjoyed hanging out with Mexican
> cavers at that, and still would enjoy that aspect of it all.
>
> Her biggest accomplishment was hiking with me all the way from the El Abra
> highway up to the upper entrance of Cueva del Abra and back down, where we
> learned you can easily drive to within 200 yard easy walk to the upper
> entrance.
>
> And she has been in Cueva La Boca south of Monterrey.
>
> She has been a nanny for a prominent gynecologist in Sugarland for 20
> years, but now does that part-time and works a 2nd part-time job teaching 4
> year olds at a private day-care program.
>
> She allegedly owns a cinder-block structure in Reynosa.   My only chance
> of ever retiring is to probably live there.
>
> She coerced me into living far far above our means.   And now is adamant
> that our kid needs proper environment as the reason to drag us deeper into
> debt.
>
> It is Friday night and I can imagine another dimension of time and space
> where I am sitting around the caver campfire.   But I am now getting back
> on the congested crazy freeway headed straight into the heart of The
> Concrete Valley to attempt one final delivery toinght.
>
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Re: [Texascavers] Mystery Cave of the Month

2017-10-20 Thread David via Texascavers
>From David Locklear


That was "Little Brehmer Cave" just outside of New Braunfels.

I have not heard if it is being protected, or if it is now in somebodies
backyard.

A fun cave you could easily spend an hour in.   One could probably could
win a map competition at 2018 TSA Spring Convention if it was drawn right.

It should have been protected like Ezell's Cave was, but nobody puts
ringtailed cats high on the speleo-protection agenda.



The lady in the photo was Magdalena Espinosa-Soto, now unfortunately
Magdalena Soto Locklear.  She is from somewhere in Mexico.   My memory is
bad.  I think near Montemorelos.   But she considers herself from the
bordertown of Reynosa.

She was never inclined to be a caver.   I made a diligent but futile effort
to slowly break her into it.  She has been in Gunnel's Cave, Alabaster
Caverns, Sequoya Caverns, Brehmer Cave and Little Brehmer Cave, and Hotel
Tanninul Cave ( behind the pool ), and road-trips to NSS Convention in
Alabama and flew to Bellingham with me for the NSS Convention there.  She
cooked food once at Mexpeleo in Acahuizotla, and attended at least 3 TCR's
and made salsa at the TSA Spring Convention held at John Knox Ranch.  She
has been in the lower section of Cascade Caverns. She attended about six
GHG meetings ( mostly just the Christmas Party ).  Her last GHG meeting was
in 2005 held at University of Houston.She was mostly my platonic
road-trip companion from 1995 to 2000, eventhough she claimed we were
"novios."   It is all a fuzzy blur now.
I tried to teach her to rappel off a 30 foot cliff.   But never got her
vertically competent and gave up trying.   But she excitedly still brags to
all the old Mexican lady-friends at all the fiestas that she attends that
she used to go explore wild dark caves with lots of bats and get dirty.
 She did briefly explore a rarely visited tropical stream cave above the
town of Chilpancingo, Guerrero and has been off trail on the wild tour at
Grutas Las Juxtlahuaca.She thoroughly enjoyed hanging out with Mexican
cavers at that, and still would enjoy that aspect of it all.

Her biggest accomplishment was hiking with me all the way from the El Abra
highway up to the upper entrance of Cueva del Abra and back down, where we
learned you can easily drive to within 200 yard easy walk to the upper
entrance.

And she has been in Cueva La Boca south of Monterrey.

She has been a nanny for a prominent gynecologist in Sugarland for 20
years, but now does that part-time and works a 2nd part-time job teaching 4
year olds at a private day-care program.

She allegedly owns a cinder-block structure in Reynosa.   My only chance of
ever retiring is to probably live there.

She coerced me into living far far above our means.   And now is adamant
that our kid needs proper environment as the reason to drag us deeper into
debt.

It is Friday night and I can imagine another dimension of time and space
where I am sitting around the caver campfire.   But I am now getting back
on the congested crazy freeway headed straight into the heart of The
Concrete Valley to attempt one final delivery toinght.
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Re: [Texascavers] Mystery Cave of the Month

2017-10-19 Thread Bill Bentley via Texascavers
Caverns of Sonora?Sent from my Verizon ASUS tablet

 Original Message 
From:David via Texascavers 
Sent:Thu, 19 Oct 2017 22:46:25 -0500
To:CaveTex 
Cc:David 
Subject:[Texascavers] Mystery Cave of the Month

>From David Locklear
>
>
>Highly recommended to hit delete button now
>
>
>
>
>I took the attached picture around 1996 ( although it has an incorrect camera 
>date processed on it )
>
>
>This image was re-created today using my LG G6 smartphone camera of a small 
>faded print.
>
>
>I doubt only 3 or 4 people would know the lady posing here.
>
>
>Hint:
>
>
>Cavepearl's future mom
>
>
>
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Re: [Texascavers] Mystery Cave of the Month

2017-03-08 Thread Jerry

Narusawa Hyoketsu (Ice Cave), a 70-foot-deep ice cave formed by lava from Mt. 
Fuji on the edge of Japan's "Suicide Forest."  



Jerry.
 

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From: David 
To: texascavers 
Sent: Wed, Mar 8, 2017 10:12 pm
Subject: [Texascavers] Mystery Cave of the Month




The link below is a photo of an alleged cave.


Who can be the first to tell us what country this cave is

in and the name of the cave and what kind of spleleology is 

going on here ?

http://assets.atlasobscura.com/media/W1siZiIsInVwbG9hZHMvcGxhY2VfaW1hZ2VzL2x5Z2U3M2J0a3M2ZGYxZjRjNjgzMTU3ZmNiZGVfSU1HXzUzMjAuSlBHIl0sWyJwIiwidGh1bWIiLCI5ODB4PiJdLFsicCIsImNvbnZlcnQiLCItcXVhbGl0eSA5MSAtYXV0by1vcmllbnQiXV0/IMG_5320.JPG


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Re: [Texascavers] Mystery Cave of the Month

2017-03-08 Thread David
I do know how to spell speleology.
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Re: [Texascavers] mystery cave near Ocampo, Tamps.

2014-11-21 Thread Mark Minton via Texascavers
   Thanks, Bill. I do have Vasquez in the deep pit list. There's a
write-up (including map) about the cave in AMCS Activites Newsletter
14, pp. 36-39 (1984). I had considered that as one possibility for the
mystery cave, but the fiasco trip wasn't mentioned in that article.

Mark

On Fri, November 21, 2014 12:30 pm, Mixon Bill via Texascavers wrote:
> Mystery cave was, I think, Sotano de Vasquez. I found something a few
> pages on in the same issue of the Texas Caver that clarified. The map
> shows entrance drop as two drops with a ledge, 17 and 84 m, which
> together agree pretty well with the rough depth in the article about
> the fiasco trip: too many people, too many of them inexperienced, the
> best cavers foreseeing chaos and bailing, people at the bottom of the
> pit with no ascending gear
>
> Fun browsing through the old Texas Cavers. See, for example, the
> report of the discoveries beyond the ledge in Mayfield Cave in the
> April 1956 issue.-- Mixon

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Re: [Texascavers] mystery cave near Ocampo, Tamps.

2014-11-21 Thread Mixon Bill via Texascavers
Mystery cave was, I think, Sótano de Vasquez. I found something a few  
pages on in the same issue of the Texas Caver that clarified. The map  
shows entrance drop as two drops with a ledge, 17 and 84 m, which  
together agree pretty well with the rough depth in the article about  
the fiasco trip: too many people, too many of them inexperienced, the  
best cavers foreseeing chaos and bailing, people at the bottom of the  
pit with no ascending gear


Fun browsing through the old Texas Cavers. See, for example, the  
report of the discoveries beyond the ledge in Mayfield Cave in the  
April 1956 issue.-- Mixon


Ack! Christmas decorations already. This might be a good time to spend  
a couple of months in Saudi Arabia.


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Re: [Texascavers] mystery cave near Ocampo, Tamps.

2014-11-21 Thread Mark Minton via Texascavers
I checked my list of Deep Pits of Mexico and it does not have an entry
corresponding to this cave, unless the depth given for the entrance
pit is substantially wrong. I, too, am interested in finding out what
cave this is, and whether it was ever properly explored and surveyed.
If not, sounds like a great project!

Mark Minton
mmin...@caver.net

On Fri, November 21, 2014 10:49 am, Mixon Bill via Texascavers wrote:
> I am trying to catalog the material on Mexican caves that has appeared
> in the Texas Caver over the years, a fairly major project. Can anyone
> identify the cave near Ocampo, Tamaulipas, featured in Wayne Russell's
> article about a snafu trip, 1973, no. 2, pp. 31-33? C. 350-foot pit
> with horizontal cave at the bottom.
> --Mixon

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Re: [Texascavers] Mystery Cave #3

2014-02-24 Thread Bill Bentley

It was Out To Lunch Cave in Brewster County, Jerry A guessed it right...
Thanks

Bill
On 2/24/2014 9:47 AM, Mark Minton wrote:

How about Wizard's Well?

Mark

At 08:49 AM 2/22/2014, Bill Bentley wrote:
>Mystery Cave #3
>
>This an entrance to a Texas Cave... What Cave is it?
>
>http://www.caver.net/images/DSC02490.JPG
>
>Bill 



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Re: [Texascavers] Mystery Cave #3

2014-02-24 Thread Mark Minton
How about Wizard's Well?

Mark

At 08:49 AM 2/22/2014, Bill Bentley wrote:
>Mystery Cave #3
>
>This an entrance to a Texas Cave... What Cave is it?
>
>http://www.caver.net/images/DSC02490.JPG
>
>Bill 


RE: [Texascavers] Mystery cave

2014-02-23 Thread Louise Power
I agree with you, Charles, and appreciate your efforts. Now that I live so far 
away from Texas, it's the primary way I keep up with old friends and 
acquaintances. If they quit writing, I assume they're dead.The way I find out 
if they're still alive, for the most part is look at the latest CVSUCKS mailing 
list.

From: wo...@justfamily.org
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 23:34:09 -0700
To: pstrickla...@austin.rr.com
CC: Texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Mystery cave

That's ridiculous, this list traffic has gone way down compared to previous 
years.  We are also at our highest point in membership, 414 members currently.  
When I took over the list in 2008 or so, we had just barely over 300 members.



It always seems that when someone sees a post that they don't agree with or 
don't like, they want to complain about the number of posts or that it's not 
appropriate.  As most people state, you have a delete key, or use a filter/rule 
on your email client to sort the email.


These last few days of posts have been directly related to caving.  I don't 
know what else people are looking for in a mailing list that covers such a 
large geographic area.


Pete, if you know someone specifically that quit and was complaining about the 
posts, I'd be interested in chatting with them, please forward this email to 
them.
ThanksCharles

list administrator and lurker



On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 10:02 PM,   wrote:


   All I know is that half the Austin cavers have gotten off Cavetex because of 
too many posts!



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RE: [Texascavers] Mystery cave

2014-02-23 Thread Geary Schindel
?Well done Charles and thanks for all your hard work with the list serve and 
the NSS IT.


Geary Schindel


From: Charles Goldsmith 
Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2014 12:34 AM
To: pstrickla...@austin.rr.com
Cc: Cavetex
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Mystery cave

That's ridiculous, this list traffic has gone way down compared to previous 
years.  We are also at our highest point in membership, 414 members currently.

When I took over the list in 2008 or so, we had just barely over 300 members.

It always seems that when someone sees a post that they don't agree with or 
don't like, they want to complain about the number of posts or that it's not 
appropriate.  As most people state, you have a delete key, or use a filter/rule 
on your email client to sort the email.

These last few days of posts have been directly related to caving.  I don't 
know what else people are looking for in a mailing list that covers such a 
large geographic area.

Pete, if you know someone specifically that quit and was complaining about the 
posts, I'd be interested in chatting with them, please forward this email to 
them.

Thanks
Charles
list administrator and lurker




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too many posts!

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Re: [Texascavers] Mystery cave

2014-02-23 Thread Fritz Holt
Julie,
Most of the wild oats are fun and interesting. 
Fritz

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> Be cuz the oats aren't fun or interesting. Sometimes a bit informative but 
> not always!
> 
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Re: [Texascavers] Mystery cave

2014-02-23 Thread Charles Goldsmith
Exactly, I read just about every post, rarely respond unless I need to or
it piques my interest.


On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Fritz Holt  wrote:

> Charles, I appreciate your making this site available to us and enjoy your
> input. What is a lurker? Are you lurking in the background?
> Fritz
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 23, 2014, at 12:34 AM, Charles Goldsmith 
> wrote:
>
> That's ridiculous, this list traffic has gone way down compared to
> previous years.  We are also at our highest point in membership, 414
> members currently.
>
> When I took over the list in 2008 or so, we had just barely over 300
> members.
>
> It always seems that when someone sees a post that they don't agree with
> or don't like, they want to complain about the number of posts or that it's
> not appropriate.  As most people state, you have a delete key, or use a
> filter/rule on your email client to sort the email.
>
> These last few days of posts have been directly related to caving.  I
> don't know what else people are looking for in a mailing list that covers
> such a large geographic area.
>
> Pete, if you know someone specifically that quit and was complaining about
> the posts, I'd be interested in chatting with them, please forward this
> email to them.
>
> Thanks
> Charles
> list administrator and lurker
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 10:02 PM,  wrote:
>
>>All I know is that half the Austin cavers have gotten off Cavetex
>> because of too many posts!
>>
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Re: [Texascavers] Mystery cave

2014-02-23 Thread Fritz Holt
Charles, I appreciate your making this site available to us and enjoy your 
input. What is a lurker? Are you lurking in the background?
Fritz

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 23, 2014, at 12:34 AM, Charles Goldsmith  wrote:

> That's ridiculous, this list traffic has gone way down compared to previous 
> years.  We are also at our highest point in membership, 414 members 
> currently.  
> 
> When I took over the list in 2008 or so, we had just barely over 300 members.
> 
> It always seems that when someone sees a post that they don't agree with or 
> don't like, they want to complain about the number of posts or that it's not 
> appropriate.  As most people state, you have a delete key, or use a 
> filter/rule on your email client to sort the email.
> 
> These last few days of posts have been directly related to caving.  I don't 
> know what else people are looking for in a mailing list that covers such a 
> large geographic area.
> 
> Pete, if you know someone specifically that quit and was complaining about 
> the posts, I'd be interested in chatting with them, please forward this email 
> to them.
> 
> Thanks
> Charles
> list administrator and lurker
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 10:02 PM,  wrote:
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> of too many posts!
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Re: [Texascavers] Mystery cave

2014-02-23 Thread Fritz Holt
I would assume this is because of the number of strictly non caving related 
posts. What ever happened to the"OT" 
site for this purpose? As a dedicated old Spelunker from the 50's and 60's, I 
enjoy the varied subjects posted on Cavetex. After all, it seems as much for 
entertainment as for information. If the post is of no interest I just hit 
delete. When and if I revisit a favorite cave of my youth I will take a picture 
of one of the entrances and post it as my submission for mystery cave of the 
month. David, for an "Armchair Caver" as you profess, you have seen/visited 
more caves than most "Cavers" and the details you remember are incredible. Keep 
the good stuff coming. 
Since "Retiring" to my little Dripping Springs paradise, my dance card is so 
full it is difficult to make time to read and delete the caver postings. For 
anyone interested, I have a great property here for camping and communing with 
nature only 24 miles from Austin. 
Fritz
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Re: [Texascavers] Mystery cave

2014-02-23 Thread Julie Jenkins
Be cuz the oats aren't fun or interesting. Sometimes a bit informative but not 
always!

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Re: [Texascavers] Mystery cave

2014-02-23 Thread Sheryl Rieck
Mr. Goldsmith,

I would like to thank you and commend you for always administering this 
listserv with fairness of mind.  You are an adept peace keeper and nonsense 
stopper including when it is my nonsense.  

Sheryl

Sent from my iPhone. 

> On Feb 23, 2014, at 12:34 AM, Charles Goldsmith  wrote:
> 
> That's ridiculous, this list traffic has gone way down compared to previous 
> years.  We are also at our highest point in membership, 414 members 
> currently.  
> 
> When I took over the list in 2008 or so, we had just barely over 300 members.
> 
> It always seems that when someone sees a post that they don't agree with or 
> don't like, they want to complain about the number of posts or that it's not 
> appropriate.  As most people state, you have a delete key, or use a 
> filter/rule on your email client to sort the email.
> 
> These last few days of posts have been directly related to caving.  I don't 
> know what else people are looking for in a mailing list that covers such a 
> large geographic area.
> 
> Pete, if you know someone specifically that quit and was complaining about 
> the posts, I'd be interested in chatting with them, please forward this email 
> to them.
> 
> Thanks
> Charles
> list administrator and lurker
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 10:02 PM,  wrote:
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>> of too many posts!
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Re: [Texascavers] Mystery cave

2014-02-23 Thread Ron Ralph
Mine did not open.
Ron
https://www.dropbox.com/s/gcyxfeo87ogpjnj/Mystery%20cave%20%232.jpg


From: jerryat...@aol.com 
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2014 6:53 PM
To: dirt...@comcast.net 
Cc: Julie Jenkins ; Cave Texas 
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Mystery cave

So, what was Mystery Cave No. 2 ?

Jerry.

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 22, 2014, at 6:35 PM, dirt...@comcast.net wrote:


  Damn it Pete!!  You are getting OLD!   (I should talk)


  I give David kudos for this idea.  It does have something vaguely related to 
caves and karst.


  Oh --- I won't do Facebook, either.


  Doctor of Dirt

Re: [Texascavers] Mystery cave

2014-02-22 Thread Julia Germany
:)
 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Charles Goldsmith 
To: pstrickland1 
Cc: Cavetex 
Sent: Sun, Feb 23, 2014 12:34 am
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Mystery cave


That's ridiculous, this list traffic has gone way down compared to previous 
years.  We are also at our highest point in membership, 414 members currently.  


When I took over the list in 2008 or so, we had just barely over 300 members.


It always seems that when someone sees a post that they don't agree with or 
don't like, they want to complain about the number of posts or that it's not 
appropriate.  As most people state, you have a delete key, or use a filter/rule 
on your email client to sort the email.


These last few days of posts have been directly related to caving.  I don't 
know what else people are looking for in a mailing list that covers such a 
large geographic area.


Pete, if you know someone specifically that quit and was complaining about the 
posts, I'd be interested in chatting with them, please forward this email to 
them.


Thanks
Charles
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too many posts!

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Re: [Texascavers] Mystery cave

2014-02-22 Thread Charles Goldsmith
That's ridiculous, this list traffic has gone way down compared to previous
years.  We are also at our highest point in membership, 414 members
currently.

When I took over the list in 2008 or so, we had just barely over 300
members.

It always seems that when someone sees a post that they don't agree with or
don't like, they want to complain about the number of posts or that it's
not appropriate.  As most people state, you have a delete key, or use a
filter/rule on your email client to sort the email.

These last few days of posts have been directly related to caving.  I don't
know what else people are looking for in a mailing list that covers such a
large geographic area.

Pete, if you know someone specifically that quit and was complaining about
the posts, I'd be interested in chatting with them, please forward this
email to them.

Thanks
Charles
list administrator and lurker




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Re: [Texascavers] Mystery Cave 3

2014-02-22 Thread Bill Bentley

nope

On 2/22/2014 9:00 PM, Carl Kunath wrote:


Emerald Sink @ Langtry.




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Re: [Texascavers] Mystery cave

2014-02-22 Thread Don Cooper
Good god!  JUST DON'T FEED THE TROLL

On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 6:53 PM,  wrote:

> So, what was Mystery Cave No. 2 ?
>
> Jerry.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 22, 2014, at 6:35 PM, dirt...@comcast.net wrote:
>
> Damn it Pete!!  You are getting OLD!   (I should talk)
>
> I give David kudos for this idea.  It does have something vaguely related
> to caves and karst.
>
> Oh --- I won't do Facebook, either.
>
> Doctor of Dirt
>
>


Re: [Texascavers] Mystery cave

2014-02-22 Thread jerryatkin
So, what was Mystery Cave No. 2 ?

Jerry.

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 22, 2014, at 6:35 PM, dirt...@comcast.net wrote:

> Damn it Pete!!  You are getting OLD!   (I should talk)
> 
> I give David kudos for this idea.  It does have something vaguely related to 
> caves and karst.
> 
> Oh --- I won't do Facebook, either.
> 
> Doctor of Dirt


Re: [Texascavers] Mystery cave

2014-02-22 Thread Julie Jenkins
Ah, it's just the thing cavetex needs. Something fun to see, try to name and 
perhaps recall a fun cave trip you had. Don't be a mystery cave pooper, Pete.

> On Feb 22, 2014, at 3:41 PM,  wrote:
> 
>Seems like Mystery cave is a game which will drive more cavers off 
> Cavetex. Maybe games are best left to Facebook.
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RE: [Texascavers] Mystery Cave #2

2014-02-22 Thread Jill Orr
I like this idea.

 

From: Charles Goldsmith [mailto:wo...@justfamily.org] 
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2014 7:10 AM
To: mark gee
Cc: Pete Lindsley; Mark Minton; Texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Mystery Cave #2

 

These mystery cave pictures would be a nice page filler on the TC
newsletter.

 

On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 6:50 PM, mark gee  wrote:

Is the cave in Hudspeth County.

 

On Friday, February 21, 2014 6:34 PM, Pete Lindsley 
wrote:

Nope, been there and that's not it. What is pictured is a more impressive
entrance.

- Pete

On Feb 21, 2014, at 4:20 PM, Mark Minton wrote:

  I'll take a guess that it's Mesa de Anguila Sinkhole. I've never been
there, but always wanted to.

Mark

At 05:00 PM 2/21/2014, dirt...@comcast.net wrote:

> Mystery Cave #2
> 
> OK David and you other Texicans.  This is also the entrance to a Texas
cave.  The scenery in the background will give you the clue that it is not
very close to Houston. The rancher is the guy with his back toward you on
the right - wearing the c'boy hat.
> 
> It will be interesting to see who comes up with the correct answer, and
THEN find out if they actually have been there -.
> 
> DirtDoc
> 
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/gcyxfeo87ogpjnj/Mystery%20cave%20%232.jpg

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Re: [Texascavers] Mystery Cave #3

2014-02-22 Thread Bill Bentley

Nope
On 2/22/2014 7:57 AM, Harris, Michael wrote:

Looks like the little opening at Deep Cave.


Sent via the Samsung Galaxy Note® II, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone


 Original message 
From: Bill Bentley
Date:02/22/2014 7:49 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: Cave Texas
Subject: [Texascavers] Mystery Cave #3

Mystery Cave #3

This an entrance to a Texas Cave... What Cave is it?

http://www.caver.net/images/DSC02490.JPG

Bill

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RE: [Texascavers] Mystery Cave #3

2014-02-22 Thread Harris, Michael
Looks like the little opening at Deep Cave.


Sent via the Samsung Galaxy Note® II, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone

 Original message From: Bill Bentley 
 Date:02/22/2014  7:49 AM  (GMT-06:00) 
To: Cave Texas  Subject: 
[Texascavers] Mystery Cave #3 
Mystery Cave #3

This an entrance to a Texas Cave... What Cave is it?

http://www.caver.net/images/DSC02490.JPG

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Re: [Texascavers] Mystery Cave #2

2014-02-22 Thread Charles Goldsmith
These mystery cave pictures would be a nice page filler on the TC
newsletter.


On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 6:50 PM, mark gee  wrote:

> Is the cave in Hudspeth County.
>
>
>   On Friday, February 21, 2014 6:34 PM, Pete Lindsley 
> wrote:
>  Nope, been there and that's not it. What is pictured is a more
> impressive entrance.
>
> - Pete
>
> On Feb 21, 2014, at 4:20 PM, Mark Minton wrote:
>
>   I'll take a guess that it's Mesa de Anguila Sinkhole. I've never
> been there, but always wanted to.
>
> Mark
>
> At 05:00 PM 2/21/2014, dirt...@comcast.net wrote:
>
> > Mystery Cave #2
> >
> > OK David and you other Texicans.  This is also the entrance to a Texas
> cave.  The scenery in the background will give you the clue that it is not
> very close to Houston. The rancher is the guy with his back toward you on
> the right - wearing the c'boy hat.
> >
> > It will be interesting to see who comes up with the correct answer, and
> THEN find out if they actually have been there -.
> >
> > DirtDoc
> >
> > https://www.dropbox.com/s/gcyxfeo87ogpjnj/Mystery%20cave%20%232.jpg
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Re: [Texascavers] Mystery Cave #2

2014-02-21 Thread mark gee
Is the cave in Hudspeth County.




On Friday, February 21, 2014 6:34 PM, Pete Lindsley  wrote:
  
Nope, been there and that's not it. What is pictured is a more impressive 
entrance.

- Pete

On Feb 21, 2014, at 4:20 PM, Mark Minton wrote:

       I'll take a guess that it's Mesa de Anguila Sinkhole. I've never been 
there, but always wanted to.

Mark

At 05:00 PM 2/21/2014, dirt...@comcast.net wrote:

> Mystery Cave #2
> 
> OK David and you other Texicans.  This is also the entrance to a Texas cave.  
> The scenery in the background will give you the clue that it is not very 
> close to Houston. The rancher is the guy with his back toward you on the 
> right - wearing the c'boy hat.
> 
> It will be interesting to see who comes up with the correct answer, and THEN 
> find out if they actually have been there -.
> 
> DirtDoc
> 
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/gcyxfeo87ogpjnj/Mystery%20cave%20%232.jpg

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Re: [Texascavers] Mystery Cave #2

2014-02-21 Thread Pete Lindsley
Nope, been there and that's not it. What is pictured is a more impressive 
entrance.

 - Pete

On Feb 21, 2014, at 4:20 PM, Mark Minton wrote:

   I'll take a guess that it's Mesa de Anguila Sinkhole. I've never been 
there, but always wanted to.

Mark

At 05:00 PM 2/21/2014, dirt...@comcast.net wrote:

> Mystery Cave #2
> 
> OK David and you other Texicans.  This is also the entrance to a Texas cave.  
> The scenery in the background will give you the clue that it is not very 
> close to Houston. The rancher is the guy with his back toward you on the 
> right - wearing the c'boy hat.
> 
> It will be interesting to see who comes up with the correct answer, and THEN 
> find out if they actually have been there -.
> 
> DirtDoc
> 
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/gcyxfeo87ogpjnj/Mystery%20cave%20%232.jpg

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Re: [Texascavers] Mystery Cave #2

2014-02-21 Thread jerryatkin
Swallow Sinkhole, Brewster County, probably 1971.

Jerry.

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On Feb 21, 2014, at 4:00 PM, dirt...@comcast.net wrote:

> 
> 
> Mystery Cave #2
>  
> OK David and you other Texicans.  This is also the entrance to a Texas cave.  
> The scenery in the background will give you the clue that it is not very 
> close to Houston. The rancher is the guy with his back toward you on the 
> right - wearing the c'boy hat.
>  
> It will be interesting to see who comes up with the correct answer, and THEN 
> find out if they actually have been there -.
>  
> DirtDoc
>  
>  
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/gcyxfeo87ogpjnj/Mystery%20cave%20%232.jpg


Re: [Texascavers] Mystery Cave #2

2014-02-21 Thread Mark Minton
I'll take a guess that it's Mesa de Anguila Sinkhole. I've 
never been there, but always wanted to.


Mark

At 05:00 PM 2/21/2014, dirt...@comcast.net wrote:


Mystery Cave #2

OK David and you other Texicans.  This is also the entrance to a 
Texas cave.  The scenery in the background will give you the clue 
that it is not very close to Houston. The rancher is the guy with 
his back toward you on the right - wearing the c'boy hat.


It will be interesting to see who comes up with the correct answer, 
and THEN find out if they actually have been there -.


DirtDoc

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Re: [Texascavers] Mystery Cave of the Month

2014-02-20 Thread jerryatkin
Looks a bit like 400 Foot Cave.

Jerry.

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 20, 2014, at 8:26 PM, David  wrote:

> Who can be the first to guess the name of this Texas cave ?
> 
> 
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Re: [Texascavers] Mystery Cave of the Month

2010-12-28 Thread David
I don't know about the vampire bats, but I think that is the cave.

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