texascavers Digest 1 Aug 2009 09:33:07 -0000 Issue 816
Topics (messages 11570 through 11582):
ICS & Big Texas Inn broshure
11570 by: Bill Bentley
11572 by: Bill Bentley
Re: ICS Amazing Backpack Stories
11571 by: Fritz Holt
11582 by: Don Cooper
Weighting down Bill Steele's pack
11573 by: Diana Tomchick
11574 by: Mark Minton
11575 by: Frank Binney
Re: Mary Kay Manning
11576 by: Fritz Holt
Facebook related
11577 by: David
ICS related
11578 by: David
11579 by: Herman Miller
11580 by: Don Cooper
11581 by: Don Cooper
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Anyone have a copy of this that was in the black bag that was given out at ICS
registration. I need one as mine got thrown away.
Contact me off list and can give you my mailing address.
Thanks,
Bill
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found one... thanks to everyone
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Bentley
To: Texascavers Mailing List
Cc: New Mexico Mailing List
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 12:51 PM
Subject: [Texascavers] ICS & Big Texas Inn broshure
Anyone have a copy of this that was in the black bag that was given out at
ICS registration. I need one as mine got thrown away.
Contact me off list and can give you my mailing address.
Thanks,
Bill
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Man of Steele occasionally become man of stone.
Tonto
________________________________
From: Nico Escamilla [mailto:pitboun...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 12:23 PM
To: Don Arburn
Cc: TSA Cavers
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Re: ICS Amazing Backpack Stories
But probably the most famous
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Don Arburn
<donarb...@mac.com<mailto:donarb...@mac.com>> wrote:
He's not the only pack rocker out there.
On Jul 31, 2009, at 12:06 PM, Nico Escamilla wrote:
Bill's just bluffing.. Do not leave your pack unattended near him
Nico
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Louise Power
<power_lou...@hotmail.com<mailto:power_lou...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Yeah, right. Does anybody really believe this?
> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 07:43:09 -0400
> From: speleoste...@tx.rr.com<mailto:speleoste...@tx.rr.com>
> To: wo...@justfamily.org<mailto:wo...@justfamily.org>
> CC: texascavers@texascavers.com<mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com>;
> jpbrook...@sbcglobal.net<mailto:jpbrook...@sbcglobal.net>;
> markageetxca...@yahoo.com<mailto:markageetxca...@yahoo.com>;
> fh...@townandcountryins.com<mailto:fh...@townandcountryins.com>;
> fr...@frankbinney.com<mailto:fr...@frankbinney.com>;
> germa...@aol.com<mailto:germa...@aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Re: ICS Amazing Backpack Stories
>
> Ok, all y'all can relax now. I've quit rocking packs. The pinnacle of my
> rockin' career was Frank Binney
> last week and James Brown this week. I'm going to quit now. So, you don't
> need to guard your packs. Don't
> practice "rock paranoia" in other words.
>
> Bill
>
> ---- Charles Goldsmith <wo...@justfamily.org<mailto:wo...@justfamily.org>>
> wrote:
> > I dunno if he found it or not, he didn't say anything.
> >
> > I'm making a mental note, never to leave any bags unattended around Mr.
> > Steele.
> >
> > Charles
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 9:30 PM,
> > <speleoste...@tx.rr.com<mailto:speleoste...@tx.rr.com>> wrote:
> > > Ok, I'll do it. I rocked James Brown last night at the grotto meeting. I
> > > even told him I was going to. I placed two decoy rocks and a well hidden
> > > rock in a pack he had left at our house. He probably found the decoys and
> > > didn't look hard enough to find the third one. Tee hee.
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > >
> > > ---- mark gee
> > > <markageetxca...@yahoo.com<mailto:markageetxca...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
> > >> I to have been Stoned by Steele. I wander who holds the record for ,
> > >> most people they have rocked. A story needs to be writen for the Caver.
> > >> Bill , why dont you tell us of your rocky memories. Puns Excepted
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: "germa...@aol.com<mailto:germa...@aol.com>"
> > > <germa...@aol.com<mailto:germa...@aol.com>>
> > > To: jpbrook...@sbcglobal.net<mailto:jpbrook...@sbcglobal.net>;
> > > wo...@justfamily.org<mailto:wo...@justfamily.org>;
> > > fr...@frankbinney.com<mailto:fr...@frankbinney.com>;
> > > fh...@townandcountryins.com<mailto:fh...@townandcountryins.com>
> > > Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com<mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 12:44:06 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Re: ICS Amazing Backpack Stories
> > >
> > >
> > > He's not the only one who does this! I've been a victim as well, but
> > > since I collect rocks, it really wasn't a bad thing!
> > >
> > > julia
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: John P Brooks
> > > <jpbrook...@sbcglobal.net<mailto:jpbrook...@sbcglobal.net>>
> > > To: Charles Goldsmith
> > > <wo...@justfamily.org<mailto:wo...@justfamily.org>>; Frank Binney
> > > <fr...@frankbinney.com<mailto:fr...@frankbinney.com>>; Fritz Holt
> > > <fh...@townandcountryins.com<mailto:fh...@townandcountryins.com>>
> > > Cc: Texas Cavers
> > > <texascavers@texascavers.com<mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com>>
> > > Sent: Thu, Jul 30, 2009 12:39 pm
> > > Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Re: ICS Amazing Backpack Stories
> > >
> > >
> > > LOL......Lesson learned once again....NEVER LEAVE your back pack ALONE
> > > with Bill Steele for even a NANO-SECOND....or you WILL end up with a rock
> > > in your pack.
> > >
> > > Thats like one of the "TEN COMMANDMENTS of CAVING".... Thou shalt not
> > > trusteth thine pack to the Man O Steele...
> > >
> > > --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Fritz Holt
> > > <fh...@townandcountryins.com<mailto:fh...@townandcountryins.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>From: Fritz Holt
> > >><fh...@townandcountryins.com<mailto:fh...@townandcountryins.com>>
> > >>Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Re: ICS Amazing Backpack Stories
> > >>To: "Charles Goldsmith"
> > >><wo...@justfamily.org<mailto:wo...@justfamily.org>>, "Frank Binney"
> > >><fr...@frankbinney.com<mailto:fr...@frankbinney.com>>
> > >>Cc: "Texas Cavers"
> > >><texascavers@texascavers.com<mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com>>
> > >>Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 12:20 PM
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Bill Steele has told similar stories and is famous for this. You were
> > >>just one of the "fortunate" recipients.
> > >>Fritz
> > >>
> > >>-----Original Message-----
> > >>From: Charles Goldsmith
> > >>[mailto:wo...@justfamily.org<mailto:wo...@justfamily.org>]
> > >>Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 10:34 AM
> > >>To: Frank Binney
> > >>Cc: Texas Cavers
> > >>Subject: [Texascavers] Re: ICS Amazing Backpack Stories
> > >>
> > >>And how long have you known Bill? Caved with him?
> > >>
> > >>Really cool story about the Grand Canyon and your pack though.
> > >>
> > >>Charles
> > >>
> > >>On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Frank
> > >>Binney<fr...@frankbinney.com<mailto:fr...@frankbinney.com>> wrote:
> > >>> On 7/29/09 8:46 PM, "Charles Goldsmith"
> > >>> <wo...@justfamily.org<mailto:wo...@justfamily.org>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> So Frank, what's this I hear about you and your extra big backpack?
> > >>>>
> > >>> Actually I had two amazing backpack experiences at ICS:
> > >>>
> > >>> 1) Back in the early 1970s I visited a multiple entrance cave in the
> > >>> Grand Canyon. Technical climbing was required to reach the entrances,
> > >>> and wetsuits were required to negotiate the stream passage deeper
> > >>> inside the cave (which, by the way, had been mapped by Rune and other
> > >>> Texas cavers back in the 1960s).
> > >>> We entered by way of a dry upper entrance, where I stashed the
> > >>> brand-new expensive backpack I had used to transport the wetsuits,
> > >>> rope and climbing gear. Twelve hours later, exhausted from pushing
> > >>> tight leads deep in the cave, we decided to save time by rappelling
> > >>> down to the Colorado River by way of a lower, wet entrance. As dawn
> > >>> light began to illuminate the Grand Canyon, we pushed off down stream
> > >>> in our oar raft and it was shortly thereafter I realized my expensive
> > >>> new backpack remained in that upper entrance.
> > >>> Over the next 35 years, especially when I passed below those cave
> > >>> entrances on numerous Grand Canyon raft trips, I wondered what might
> > >>> have happened to that pack.
> > >>> So imagine my surprise at the ICS banquet when Bob and Debbie Buecher
> > >>> came over and asked if I was missing a backpack. A few years ago Bob
> > >>> was at that particular entrance and noticed a dusty pack stashed on a
> > >>> ledge. He's got it at his home in Tucson and plans to reunite me with
> > >>> it.
> > >>>
> > >>> 2) My other ICS amazing backpack story concerns the charity of my good
> > >>> "friend" Bill Steele. One day I loaded up my backpack with heavy books
> > >>> I planned to mail home (ICS proceedings, Derek Ford's Castleguard
> > >>> book, Bill's Huautla book, a coffee table-sized French caving diving
> > >>> book, the Vertical Bill Cuddington bio, etc.) Unfortunately, the
> > >>> campus mail center was closed when I arrived but Bill Steele
> > >>> graciously allowed me to stash the pack in his truck while he, Diana
> > >>> and I attended the photo salon.
> > >>> Later that night he was kind enough to hand deliver the pack to me in
> > >>> Groad Hollow. As I schlepped the pack across campus to my apartment, I
> > >>> remember thinking how smart I was to be mailing those books home--they
> > >>> weighed a ton and never would have passed airline weight limits.
> > >>> The never morning I struggled to get the heavy pack on my back and
> > >>> made the long walk the length of the campus from the Pecan Grove
> > >>> apartments to the registration building coffee shop. The mail center
> > >>> wasn't open so I carried the pack around most of the day,
> > >>> criss-crossing the campus numerous times for various sessions.
> > >>> Finally I made it to the mail center with the backpack, where upon
> > >>> transferring the contents into Priority Mail cartons I discovered a
> > >>> quite large, beautifully stream-sculpted, authentic Texas karst rock
> > >>> in the bottom of the pack. What a thoughtful gift--Thanks, Bill!
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
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I believe it! You can TRUST the Man O' Steele at his word!
(Oh, and where did you want me to ship those lead bars to, Bill?)
-WaV
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 6:43 AM, <speleoste...@tx.rr.com> wrote:
> Ok, all y'all can relax now. I've quit rocking packs. The pinnacle of my
> rockin' career was Frank Binney
> last week and James Brown this week. I'm going to quit now. So, you don't
> need to guard your packs. Don't
> practice "rock paranoia" in other words.
>
> Bill
>
> ---- Charles Goldsmith <wo...@justfamily.org> wrote:
> > I dunno if he found it or not, he didn't say anything.
> >
> > I'm making a mental note, never to leave any bags unattended around Mr.
> Steele.
> >
> > Charles
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 9:30 PM, <speleoste...@tx.rr.com> wrote:
> > > Ok, I'll do it. I rocked James Brown last night at the grotto meeting.
> I even told him I was going to. I placed two decoy rocks and a well hidden
> rock in a pack he had left at our house. He probably found the decoys and
> didn't look hard enough to find the third one. Tee hee.
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > >
> > > ---- mark gee <markageetxca...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >> I to have been Stoned by Steele. I wander who holds the record for ,
> most people they have rocked. A story needs to be writen for the Caver. Bill
> , why dont you tell us of your rocky memories. Puns Excepted
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: "germa...@aol.com" <germa...@aol.com>
> > > To: jpbrook...@sbcglobal.net; wo...@justfamily.org;
> fr...@frankbinney.com; fh...@townandcountryins.com
> > > Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 12:44:06 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Re: ICS Amazing Backpack Stories
> > >
> > >
> > > He's not the only one who does this! I've been a victim as well, but
> since I collect rocks, it really wasn't a bad thing!
> > >
> > > julia
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: John P Brooks <jpbrook...@sbcglobal.net>
> > > To: Charles Goldsmith <wo...@justfamily.org>; Frank Binney <
> fr...@frankbinney.com>; Fritz Holt <fh...@townandcountryins.com>
> > > Cc: Texas Cavers <texascavers@texascavers.com>
> > > Sent: Thu, Jul 30, 2009 12:39 pm
> > > Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Re: ICS Amazing Backpack Stories
> > >
> > >
> > > LOL......Lesson learned once again....NEVER LEAVE your back pack ALONE
> with Bill Steele for even a NANO-SECOND....or you WILL end up with a rock in
> your pack.
> > >
> > > Thats like one of the "TEN COMMANDMENTS of CAVING".... Thou shalt not
> trusteth thine pack to the Man O Steele...
> > >
> > > --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Fritz Holt <fh...@townandcountryins.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>From: Fritz Holt <fh...@townandcountryins.com>
> > >>Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Re: ICS Amazing Backpack Stories
> > >>To: "Charles Goldsmith" <wo...@justfamily.org>, "Frank Binney" <
> fr...@frankbinney.com>
> > >>Cc: "Texas Cavers" <texascavers@texascavers.com>
> > >>Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 12:20 PM
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Bill Steele has told similar stories and is famous for this. You were
> just one of the "fortunate" recipients.
> > >>Fritz
> > >>
> > >>-----Original Message-----
> > >>From: Charles Goldsmith [mailto:wo...@justfamily.org]
> > >>Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 10:34 AM
> > >>To: Frank Binney
> > >>Cc: Texas Cavers
> > >>Subject: [Texascavers] Re: ICS Amazing Backpack Stories
> > >>
> > >>And how long have you known Bill? Caved with him?
> > >>
> > >>Really cool story about the Grand Canyon and your pack though.
> > >>
> > >>Charles
> > >>
> > >>On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Frank Binney<fr...@frankbinney.com>
> wrote:
> > >>> On 7/29/09 8:46 PM, "Charles Goldsmith" <wo...@justfamily.org>
> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> So Frank, what's this I hear about you and your extra big backpack?
> > >>>>
> > >>> Actually I had two amazing backpack experiences at ICS:
> > >>>
> > >>> 1) Back in the early 1970s I visited a multiple entrance cave in the
> > >>> Grand Canyon. Technical climbing was required to reach the entrances,
> > >>> and wetsuits were required to negotiate the stream passage deeper
> > >>> inside the cave (which, by the way, had been mapped by Rune and other
> > >>> Texas cavers back in the 1960s).
> > >>> We entered by way of a dry upper entrance, where I stashed the
> > >>> brand-new expensive backpack I had used to transport the wetsuits,
> > >>> rope and climbing gear. Twelve hours later, exhausted from pushing
> > >>> tight leads deep in the cave, we decided to save time by rappelling
> > >>> down to the Colorado River by way of a lower, wet entrance. As dawn
> > >>> light began to illuminate the Grand Canyon, we pushed off down stream
> > >>> in our oar raft and it was shortly thereafter I realized my expensive
> > >>> new backpack remained in that upper entrance.
> > >>> Over the next 35 years, especially when I passed below those cave
> > >>> entrances on numerous Grand Canyon raft trips, I wondered what might
> > >>> have happened to that pack.
> > >>> So imagine my surprise at the ICS banquet when Bob and Debbie Buecher
> > >>> came over and asked if I was missing a backpack. A few years ago Bob
> > >>> was at that particular entrance and noticed a dusty pack stashed on a
> > >>> ledge. He's got it at his home in Tucson and plans to reunite me with
> it.
> > >>>
> > >>> 2) My other ICS amazing backpack story concerns the charity of my
> good
> > >>> "friend" Bill Steele. One day I loaded up my backpack with heavy
> books
> > >>> I planned to mail home (ICS proceedings, Derek Ford's Castleguard
> > >>> book, Bill's Huautla book, a coffee table-sized French caving diving
> > >>> book, the Vertical Bill Cuddington bio, etc.) Unfortunately, the
> > >>> campus mail center was closed when I arrived but Bill Steele
> > >>> graciously allowed me to stash the pack in his truck while he, Diana
> > >>> and I attended the photo salon.
> > >>> Later that night he was kind enough to hand deliver the pack to me in
> > >>> Groad Hollow. As I schlepped the pack across campus to my apartment,
> I
> > >>> remember thinking how smart I was to be mailing those books
> home--they
> > >>> weighed a ton and never would have passed airline weight limits.
> > >>> The never morning I struggled to get the heavy pack on my back and
> > >>> made the long walk the length of the campus from the Pecan Grove
> > >>> apartments to the registration building coffee shop. The mail center
> > >>> wasn't open so I carried the pack around most of the day,
> > >>> criss-crossing the campus numerous times for various sessions.
> > >>> Finally I made it to the mail center with the backpack, where upon
> > >>> transferring the contents into Priority Mail cartons I discovered a
> > >>> quite large, beautifully stream-sculpted, authentic Texas karst rock
> > >>> in the bottom of the pack. What a thoughtful gift--Thanks, Bill!
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
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OK, so I'll add a story that's similar to Andy's...awhile back we had
a DFW grotto trip into a water cave and Bill supplied a number of
people with his famous red Whisk laundry detergent bottles as floats.
The older cavers out there (that includes me) will remember those old
laundry detergent bottles, they were approximately 4" thick and 8"
wide and about 12" tall--just perfect to slide into your pack, and a
carabiner will fit on the handle. About halfway into the trip we found
a muddy side passage and Bill led a few cavers down the passage, but
he left his pack behind. Edwin Lehr had finally found an opportunity
to rock Bill's pack, but alas, there were no rocks to be found. So he
decided to fill Bill's Whisk bottle with water, which really caused
the whole pack to want to sink to the bottom of the passage. Bill
would have spent the whole rest of the trip trying to figure out why
his pack wouldn't float, but Edwin was new to the ways of rocking and
he was so pleased with himself that 5 minutes after Bill started back
upstream, Edwin asked him why his pack wasn't floating. That was
enough to tip Bill off to the fact that Edwin was messing with him,
and even Bill admitted that he wouldn't have realized the nature of
the problem until he had left the cave if Edwin had just stayed quiet.
Ask Bill sometime about how much his children like to rock him,
Diana
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Diana R. Tomchick
Associate Professor
University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
Department of Biochemistry
5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
Rm. ND10.214B
Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.
Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
214-645-6383 (phone)
214-645-6353 (fax)
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Diana said:
>Ask Bill sometime about how much his children like to rock him
Probably no more than he likes rocking them!
Good story! :-)
Mark
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Hmmmm....if the Terminal Siphons didn't already have prior use of the term,
I'd say these stories fall under the category of "Cavers Rocking Cavers".
Ka-thump!
Frank
On 7/31/09 1:09 PM, "Diana Tomchick" <diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu>
wrote:
> OK, so I'll add a story that's similar to Andy's...awhile back we had
> a DFW grotto trip into a water cave and Bill supplied a number of
> people with his famous red Whisk laundry detergent bottles as floats.
> The older cavers out there (that includes me) will remember those old
> laundry detergent bottles, they were approximately 4" thick and 8"
> wide and about 12" tall--just perfect to slide into your pack, and a
> carabiner will fit on the handle. About halfway into the trip we found
> a muddy side passage and Bill led a few cavers down the passage, but
> he left his pack behind. Edwin Lehr had finally found an opportunity
> to rock Bill's pack, but alas, there were no rocks to be found. So he
> decided to fill Bill's Whisk bottle with water, which really caused
> the whole pack to want to sink to the bottom of the passage. Bill
> would have spent the whole rest of the trip trying to figure out why
> his pack wouldn't float, but Edwin was new to the ways of rocking and
> he was so pleased with himself that 5 minutes after Bill started back
> upstream, Edwin asked him why his pack wasn't floating. That was
> enough to tip Bill off to the fact that Edwin was messing with him,
> and even Bill admitted that he wouldn't have realized the nature of
> the problem until he had left the cave if Edwin had just stayed quiet.
>
> Ask Bill sometime about how much his children like to rock him,
>
> Diana
>
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> Diana R. Tomchick
> Associate Professor
> University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
> Department of Biochemistry
> 5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
> Rm. ND10.214B
> Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.
> Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
> 214-645-6383 (phone)
> 214-645-6353 (fax)
>
>
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Here is a nice post from Mary Kay.
Fritz
________________________________
From: Mary Kay Manning [mailto:mkmann...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 3:27 PM
To: Fritz Holt
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Mary Kay Manning
Thanks, Fritz!
Here's the scoop: I'm transferring to Big Thicket National Preserve. The
headquarters is about 30 miles north of Beaumont. I'm in the process of buying
a house in Wildwood, a little community about 5 miles from the park HQ. The
backyard backs up to a golf course and has wooded lots on both sides, so it
still has sort of a secluded feel to even in a subdivision.
We all know that there's no other place like Big Bend. I will certainly miss
the Chisos Mountains, the dedicated park visitors who return year after year,
and doing educational programs with the visitors. Several people have told me
that Big Thicket is completely unlike any other national park area in many
ways, so I'll have a lot to learn in my new job. But I'm looking forward to new
challenges and adventures, and to being much closer to my family.
My going-away party is tonight. I'm a little concerned about all the dirt that
my friends and co-workers have on me after 20 years.
Feel free to share my contact info with others. Thanks again for your kind
words!
Mary Kay
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From: fh...@townandcountryins.com
To: mkmann...@hotmail.com
CC: russ.k.john...@westonsolutions.com
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 11:12:55 -0500
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Mary Kay Manning
Mary Kay,
Say it ain't so. We loved you in Big Bend. However, you will be closer to most
of us (and civilization) if you are in East Texas.
Where will you be domiciled? Russ also wanted to know your location and contact
information. I am sure that many in the caving community will want to know your
situation. You will be loved wherever you go.
Fritz
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From: Mary Kay Manning [mailto:mkmann...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 9:06 AM
To: Fritz Holt
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Mary Kay Manning
Hi Fritz -
I'll have the same email addresses:
mkmann...@hotmail.com<mailto:mkmann...@hotmail.com> at home and
mary_kay_mann...@nps.gov<mailto:mary_kay_mann...@nps.gov> at work.
I'll be in Big Bend for another week and expect to move next weekend.
Good to hear from you!
Mary Kay
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From: fh...@townandcountryins.com
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:26:29 -0500
Subject: [Texascavers] Mary Kay Manning
Concerning David's post, does anyone have a new e-mail address for Mary Kay?
Fritz
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Have you ever found a long lost caver on Facebook ?
I did the other day.
Joe Galewsky. He was an active Aggie Caver around 1986 or 87.
I will try to get him to write something.
He is now a professor of Earth Science in New Mexico
So, dig out those old dusty grotto list and see if you can find somebody
and try to see if they have done any caving.
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I would be interested in reading post about events that occurred at ICS
that I missed.
For example,
1. The opening ceremony party.
2. The NSS auction
3. The turnout at the consignment sales.
4. Caving trips at TCC, CWAN, Golondrinas, Wind Cave, etc.
5. Any opinions on how to improve or help the next convention
organizers.
6. Who all is excited and counting the days until Vermont?,
Colorado ??, The Czech Republic ??
9. SpeleoOlympics
10. Survey contest.
11. Tourist trip stories.
12. Exploration talks
13. etc.
David Locklear
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I think Vermont will be a nice vacation though I really don't see myself
doing much caving there. The Czech Republic would be nice to get back to,
I've only gone there for air shows though unfortunately I'd prefer to spend
5K on more caving / diving gear.
10
My good friend Steve Deveny proofed the survey course to i wanna say 2cm and
is a professional surveyor. I don't really have any input there just wanted
to throw kudos where I could.
12
I know there were separate individual talks concerning the "big" caves of
the world throughout the week though I would have much preferred one "big"
session just covering the exploration of these select few caves.
Secondly I like to state that the exploration talks should be held later in
the day so that those whom are still young and in there prime ie explore are
up in time to hear the talks. Though it might just be me in not being able
to handle campground activities and being able to turn right around and
function so early in the morning ;).
Herman Miller
NSS 55273
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 9:27 PM, David <dlocklea...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I would be interested in reading post about events that occurred at ICS
> that I missed.
>
> For example,
>
> 1. The opening ceremony party.
> 2. The NSS auction
> 3. The turnout at the consignment sales.
> 4. Caving trips at TCC, CWAN, Golondrinas, Wind Cave, etc.
> 5. Any opinions on how to improve or help the next convention
> organizers.
> 6. Who all is excited and counting the days until Vermont?,
> Colorado ??, The Czech Republic ??
> 9. SpeleoOlympics
> 10. Survey contest.
> 11. Tourist trip stories.
> 12. Exploration talks
> 13. etc.
>
> David Locklear
>
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I would be interested in knowing how many volunteers at ICS took time off of
their jobs with no vacation compensation
(they forsake income) to attend ICS?
Unemployment does not count.
-WaV
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Um - bad syntax...
I meant "(they had to forsake income) to attend..."
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 3:54 AM, Don Cooper <wavyca...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I would be interested in knowing how many volunteers at ICS took time off
> of their jobs with no vacation compensation
> (they forsake income) to attend ICS?
> Unemployment does not count.
>
> -WaV
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