texascavers Digest 12 Sep 2010 21:11:57 -0000 Issue 1148
Topics (messages 16005 through 16017):
Re: Rain!
16005 by: Stefan Creaser
Re: Longhorn Caverns needs lighting assistance
16006 by: ellie :)
16007 by: ellie :)
Comanche Springs Cave
16008 by: SS
16014 by: SS
16015 by: Bill Bentley
a backup LED flashlight
16009 by: David
cave diving record set ?
16010 by: David
Calling Katherine McClure or Paul Fambro
16011 by: speleosteele.tx.rr.com
Re: Virus Outbreak
16012 by: Fritz Holt
a cave related article
16013 by: David
Cave Day next weekend
16016 by: Curtis Bullard
PBSS September meeting
16017 by: J. LaRue Thomas
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That's coz you don't live in the center of the caving universe ;-)
From: Bill Bentley [mailto:ca...@caver.net]
What Rain? Dry as a bone here...
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From: mark.al...@l-3com.com
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 6:51 AM
Subject: [Texascavers] FW: Longhorn Caverns and a Bit of Water
Received this from the folks down at LCSP, in regard to all of
the rain we've received, courtesy of Hermine.
She also addresses NatureFest in Burnet that was supposed to be
on October 9th, TSS, TCMA, and TSA, mainly.
Mark
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Subject: RE: Longhorn Caverns Project, TCR
Mark!!
Yes, we did get rain and yes.... it did affect the water
levels in the
cave. The turn around room had water as deep as the 3rd step.
The
wishing well was full. We had several waterfalls throughout the
cave.
Trails are sticky, muddy, slippery. But if you are brave enough
to walk
in.. it is spectacular!! I love the sound of the running water
and the
water drops on the formations are breathtaking.
FYI - I cancelled Naturefest this year. Too much on my plate
and the
whole festival fell into my lap and I lost the majority of my
volunteers. We are planning on trying to do it next year.
Michelle Devaney - 512-663-0543 cell
Vanishing Texas www.vtrc.com
512-756-6986
Longhorn Cavern www.longhorncaverns.com
512-756-4680
Arbonne www.NotJustSkinDeep.myArbonne.com
512-663-0543
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I still am sore about Longhorn. Wish it was kosher to be nasty about it on
air... but its not so I will just tell you.
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Logan McNatt <lmcn...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
> Speaking of Longhorn Cavern, they could use an agile caver for a couple of
> days to help a fellow who is working on the lighting. Perhaps one of you
> who has been helping at Cascade Caverns? Contact Longhorn and talk to
> Michelle. Maybe you can get a free wild tour!
>
> Logan
>
>
> On 9/8/2010 3:09 PM, mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote:
>
> All, Since TCR wil be held near the Marble Falls/Burnet area this year, I
> contacted Longhorn Caverns State Park about some kind of group rate for
> their wild cave tour (and, maybe, other parts of the cave some of you may
> know about and have toured and/or worked in). They gave me a price of $35
> per person. Please let me know offline if you'd be interested in doing this
> tour. Thanks! Mark
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Ooops!!! Sorry guys.
Longhorn is a great cave...very beautiful. I have been there many times and
think everyone should visit.
I led a trip there where there were a lot of miscommunications, it was poor
organization on our part and I like to gripe. Didn't mean to send that out
to everyone.
BTW. Mark's email address also starts with "texascaver"
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So when is James Brown going to dive into the Comanche Springs lower caves
and explore Texas version of Wakulla Springs?
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Question for Bill Bentley. This article ran back in 83 and indicates
arrangements being made for diving Stephens Well in Comanche Springs Cave.
I find no further references made until 1997 and nothing of the findings of
the Dive team.
Was Stephens Well ever explored? What was found?
In the cave's largest tunnel, which leads Northwest from the domes, the
explorers pass a small pit en route to Stephan's Well, a huge 50 foot deep
pit filled with about 20 feet of water.
It is this cave formation which the spelunkers believe hold the key to
further exploration and a larger Cavern type system. Three National Park
Service employees and professional cave divers will attempt to examine the
huge tunnels visible through , crystalline-clear water this month.
The team put a pump into one well, Stephen's Well, which they ran for 93
days, pumping 9 1/2 gallons a minute. "We did not alter the water so much as
an eighth of an inch," Shannon said.
The team holds hope that Stephen's Well may prove to be the main opening to
the rest of the cave. A team of divers from the National Park Service has
agreed to dive into the well sometime in October.
These passages average I m wide by 1-2 m high, and they make up most of the
cave's explored length. In at least five locations they cross over pits that
drop to the water table. Submerged passages up to 3 m in diameter lead off
from these pits and constitute the cave's lower level.
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From: SS [mailto:back2scool...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 11:50 PM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] Comanche Springs Cave
So when is James Brown going to dive into the Comanche Springs lower caves
and explore Texas version of Wakulla Springs?
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Because it never happened... We were relying on members of the NPS and some of
the people who had experience to do this...
The schedules never meshed. It does silt up to 100 % merky muddy water almost
the instant that anyone gets into the pools. So visibility os nil...It would
take a week or so to clear out...
When it was clear once, we did lower a 150 watt (waterproofed) clear light bulb
down into the pool over 100' and it eventually became too weak to see through
the water... You could see the walls down maybe 30 to 50' or so and then just
black....
To the best of my knowledge no one has ever did a dive in there....
Of all of the water pools in the cave one was several degrees cooler than the
others... I don't know why...
Most of this is from memory, from nearly 30 years ago.......
Bill
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From: SS
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 9:46 PM
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Comanche Springs Cave
Question for Bill Bentley. This article ran back in 83 and indicates
arrangements being made for diving Stephens Well in Comanche Springs Cave. I
find no further references made until 1997 and nothing of the findings of the
Dive team.
Was Stephens Well ever explored? What was found?
In the cave's largest tunnel, which leads Northwest from the domes, the
explorers pass a small pit en route to Stephan's Well, a huge 50 foot deep pit
filled with about 20 feet of water.
It is this cave formation which the spelunkers believe hold the key to
further exploration and a larger Cavern type system. Three National Park
Service employees and professional cave divers will attempt to examine the huge
tunnels visible through , crystalline-clear water this month.
The team put a pump into one well, Stephen's Well, which they ran for 93
days, pumping 9 1/2 gallons a minute. "We did not alter the water so much as an
eighth of an inch," Shannon said.
The team holds hope that Stephen's Well may prove to be the main opening to
the rest of the cave. A team of divers from the National Park Service has
agreed to dive into the well sometime in October.
These passages average I m wide by 1-2 m high, and they make up most of the
cave's explored length. In at least five locations they cross over pits that
drop to the water table. Submerged passages up to 3 m in diameter lead off from
these pits and constitute the cave's lower level.
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From: SS [mailto:back2scool...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 11:50 PM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] Comanche Springs Cave
So when is James Brown going to dive into the Comanche Springs lower caves
and explore Texas version of Wakulla Springs?
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Look at the light in the bottom right corner of this link.
http://ca.rayovac.com/flashlight/brilliandSolutions_BRSLEDKEY-BMF.shtml
This tiny flashlight cost only $ 3.00 plus tax at Walmart.
It puts out enough light for you to use around your cave camp, or reading
a map, or for emergency use.
While there have been similar lights on the market for a long time, they
are still around the $ 10.00 range.
I just tested it in my back yard, and I could see objects about 30 feet away
in the dark.
It seems to be constructed good enough to use on a caving trip. Threads feel
solid, and o-rings are decent on both ends, meaning it looks like you could dunk
it in the water.
And it makes a good key-chain light if you want a light that big. It comes
with a rugged tiny clip to put your keys on.
For what it is designed for, I would have to give it 4 stars out of 5.
It loses a
star because the light pattern isn't perfect.
I bet someone could get to the back of Airman's with just this light, and
a pair of AAA lithium batteries.
David Locklear
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http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2010/0910/1224278569802.html
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Please email me.
Bill
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For what it's worth.
Fritz
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From: Mike Wood [mailto:mw...@encorebank.com]
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 12:10 PM
To: Encore Bank; Encore Trust; Linscomb-Williams; Town and Country Insurance
Subject: Virus Outbreak
FYI please be aware of the following virus outbreak. It is spread via email
which includes Gmail, Hotmail, Yahoo, etc... Please do not open PDF files from
unknown sources.
A new virus based in e-mails with the subject line "Here You have" began
running rampant Thursday, hitting corporate America hard.
So far, the virus has already been sighted at ABC/Disney, Google, Coca Cola and
NASA, several individuals with knowledge of the situation told TheWrap. Comcast
was forced to shut down its e-mail servers entirely after being hit, a
spokesperson said on Twitter.
"Apparently, this virus (if you click on it) will pooch your PC if you shut it
off if you're infected," she added.
.."Good Morning America" weatherman Sam Champion was among those affected at
ABC. He posted a message on Twitter that said a "huge email-spam-virus" was
"filling up" his ABC News e-mail account.
According to a person at Disney, the virus struck there at approximately 11
a.m. PT.
The prevalence of the virus was dramatically demonstrated on Google through a
dramatic spike in Internet searches about the outbreak. Throughout the
afternoon, "Here You Have" ranked as the No. 2 search on Google behind "Terry
Jones pastor."
E-mails that carry the virus contain a link that encourages readers to click on
a PDF document file. But rather than a PDF, the file contains a Windows script
that transmits a virus and spams the entire contact list of the person who
opened the file.
The Internet Storm Center, at the SANS Technology Institute, an organization
dedicated to tracking malicious Internet activity, reported receiving "tons of
e-mails" about malware spreading through e-mails with the phrase "Here You
Have" in the subject line. Another anti-virus organization, the McAfee Threat
Center, is investigating the outbreak.
A note posted on the McAfee site Thursday afternoon said: "It looks like
multiple variants may be spreading and may take some time to work through them
all to paint a clearer picture."
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http://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/new-zealand/4118082/Caving-in-New-Zealand
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Greetings All,
Cave Day will be next Saturday, the 18th, in Cedar Park. For those of
you who are unfamiliar with the event, this is when the TCC opens two
caves for the public to come and see what is under their neighborhoods.
Anyone who volunteers will be greatly appreciated. There will be caving
opportunities Friday through Sunday as well.
Camping is available at the TCC headquarters located at 1800 West Park
Cedar Park, Texas 78613.
More information on Cave Day can be found at texascaves.org
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All,
Unless I am mistaken or looking at the wrong year's calendar, this Tuesday
is already the next meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological Society!
So...
The regularly scheduled monthly meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological
Society will be held this Tuesday, September 14th, at 7:00 pm, in the back
room at Murray's Deli which is located at 3211 West Wadley in Midland.
Among other caving- and cave-related topics, the 5 Mouth Cave Ranch
landowners are hoping that we will schedule another dig for as soon as the
weather cools.
For further information contact: Jacqui Thomas jlrbi...@sonoratx.net , or
Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net
Regarding The Hole News (especially trip reports and articles. Any trip
reports. Any articles): Kel Thomas ktho...@sonoratx.net
PBSS web page:
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html
The Permian Basin Speleological Society was founded in October 1983 and was
chartered as the 300th grotto of the National Speleological Society on
January 18, 1984. The Permian Basin Speleological Society is an affiliated
Grotto or Caving club with the Texas Speleological Association and the
Southwestern Region of the National Speleological Society and supports the
cave conservation ethics of the National Speleological Society.
National Speleological Society web page:
http://www.caves.org/
Texas Speleological Association web page:
http://www.cavetexas.org
Southwestern Region of the NSS web page:
http://www.caves.org/region/swr/
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