texascavers Digest 20 Nov 2009 06:55:43 -0000 Issue 890

Topics (messages 12636 through 12645):

Ciudad Victoria - Hacienda name needed
        12636 by: jranzau.gmail.com
        12640 by: Mark Minton

Re: archiving your data
        12637 by: Carl Kunath

Re: Trouble at PEMEX
        12638 by: Sheryl Rieck

Rooms--OT
        12639 by: Gill Edigar

KXAN's Jim Swift in Antioch Cave
        12641 by: Jules Jenkins
        12642 by: Travis Scott
        12643 by: Don Cooper

Edwards Aquifer Recovery Implementation Program takes first steps :
        12644 by: JerryAtkin.aol.com

aquifer question
        12645 by: David

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--- Begin Message --- A few years ago on a trip to Brinco we stopped at a old Hacienda at the base of the mountain that was being converted into a hotel. Does anyone know its name or if it has a website?

Joe

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Joe,

>A few years ago on a trip to Brinco we stopped at a old Hacienda at the base of the mountain that was being converted into a hotel. Does anyone know its name or if it has a website?

That was probably Hacienda Santa Engracia: <http://www.haciendase.com/>.

Mark Minton

You may reply to mmin...@caver.net
Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org
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While I agree with Bill's thinking about the retrieval of data in the future, 
one shouldn't overlook the critical part of the whole affair:  MAKE A QUALITY 
BACKUP.  The issue of being able to recover the data in the future will be a 
moot point if the files are corrupt from the beginning.  To this end, one 
should choose the highest quality media available.  There are GREAT 
differences.  A bit of research is in order.  For those interested, here is a 
good place to begin:

http://dpbestflow.org/node/260

===Carl Kunath


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mixon Bill 
  To: Cavers Texas 
  Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 2:00 PM
  Subject: [Texascavers] archiving your cave data


  Don't spend extra money on "archival" CD-Rs or DVD-Rs. As I've pointed  
  out before, _any_ such media, properly stored (which doesn't mean in  
  sealed in dry nitrogen, just in a case, upright, like a book on a  
  shelf, in normal indoor environment) will "outlast the technology,"  
  which means that the data on it will be good when you no longer have  
  anything that will read it. Estimates for R media are at least 200  
  years; for RW, 50 years. Those little hard-shell 3.5-inch floppies  
  were introduced only 25 years ago; seen one lately? I don't think even  
  David's elaborate scheme of including the necessary hardware in a time  
  capsule would work. Modern computer chips will probably not last that  
  long even if not powered, due to diffusion of the atoms in the  
  extremely tiny features. Anyway, there wouldn't be any convenient way  
  to get the data out of the computer, even if you could read it on  
  screen. Who will have a USB cable 500 years from now?

  Just assume electonically archived data will have to be recopied every  
  twenty years to keep up with hardward and software evolution. Or of  
  course, for the Luddite, good-quality paper or black-and-white  
  microfilm film are considered archival and don't require much  
  equipment to read. -- Mixon










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This is all very good information since we are going to Mexico on Saturday
and I haven't been in quite some time.  

 

Sheryl

 


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I had an inquiry today from an old friend looking for a couple of rooms near
Austin to rent in the next week or two for a short term--like 6 months/say
May or June--for himself and well-behaved, functional, intelligent teenage
offspring.

If you have or know of such a situation please contact me and I'll pass it
along.

--Ediger

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fyi- it is what it is......





http://www.kxan.com/dpp/weather/scientists-unveil-new-cave-entrance





      

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Read the kid's comment at the bottom of the story, is it really not locked?

Jules Jenkins wrote:

fyi- it is what it is......

http://www.kxan.com/dpp/weather/scientists-unveil-new-cave-entrance




-- 
Travis Scott
979.450.0103 Cell
tra...@oztotl.com 

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could I get a payin part time job for moving those rocks around?
-WaV

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Jules Jenkins <julesje...@yahoo.com> wrote:

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> fyi- it is what it is......
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> http://www.kxan.com/dpp/weather/scientists-unveil-new-cave-entrance
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Edwards Aquifer Recovery Implementation Program  (EARIP)
 
Wednesday, November 18, 2009
By Editor 
 
The EARIP stakeholders met Thursday and took the first of many steps in the 
 process of establishing a plan to protect federally-listed endangered 
species  while balancing the region’s need for water.  The chair and members of 
the  EARIP Science Subcommittee presented preliminary findings from their 
report that  analyzes endangered species’ needs in relation to spring flow 
rates and aquifer  levels, and they answered many questions from the 
stakeholders.  The full  report will be completed at the end of December 2009. 
Robert Gulley, EARIP Program Manager, said “The Science Subcommittee’s 
work  is an initial step in a lengthy process established over the past 2 years 
by  EARIP stakeholders.  The flows are a starting point, but they do not  
dictate any particular action.  The numbers do point out the complexity of  
discussions coming in the next few months and do highlight the need to work  
together to come up with creative solutions.” 
The second step of the process was also accomplished at this meeting when 
the  stakeholders approved seeking a peer review of the Science Subcommittee 
report  by independent scientists.  A Request for Proposals will be sent out 
in  December. 
The group also began the third step in the process by discussing possible  
alternatives for protecting species.  Discussion of these alternatives will  
continue and intensify on December 1 when the EARIP holds a 2-day retreat 
in  Kerrville.  The Science Subcommittee will be one of many technical  
resources that will inform these discussions. 
Other actions taken Thursday include unanimous approval of funding for an  
aquifer study to evaluate recharge alternatives for spring flow 
supplementation,  which allows exploration of non-pumping actions as part of 
the 
solution.   The group also learned that a Guadalupe River gains and losses 
study 
will be  funded by the Corps of Engineers.  The stakeholders declined to fund 
a  third proposed study about whooping crane foods and marsh connectivity. 
The 2010 EARIP operating budget of $239,848 was approved with stakeholders  
contributing these funds for the EARIP’s third year, including Edwards 
Aquifer  Authority, Guadalupe Blanco River Authority, San Antonio River 
Authority, San  Antonio Water System, Texas Department of Agriculture, Texas 
Commission on  Environmental Quality, and Texas Parks and Wildlife plus many 
others. 
EARIP stakeholders include water utilities, cities, groundwater 
conservation  districts, agricultural users, industrial users, environmental 
organizations,  individuals, river authorities, downstream and coastal 
communities, 
and state  and federal agencies. 
_http://helotesherald.com/?p=979_ (http://helotesherald.com/?p=979) 


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I live about 300 meters from sewage treatment plant that dumps the treated
sewage directly into
a creek that flows 1 mile downstream to the Brazos River, and then 100 miles
or so
later ends up in the Gulf.

What happens to all the treated sewage water in the Edwards Aquifer area ?


On a related note, but mainly for you birders:

If you look at the discharge into this creek, it stinks really bad
for over 100 meters.   The marshy creek at the discharge is full of cattail
like vegetation growing in the water and lots of water birds.

I am not a birder ( yet ), but I think it is common to see the marsh
feeding birds at the discharge, like:  Great Blue Heron, Black-crowed Night
Heron,
Reddish Egret, Roseate Spoonbill, Snowy Egret, Tri-colored Heron, White
Ibis, etc.

There is also lots of nutria in a culvert downstream.  Other critters in the
area are turtles.

But I haven't seen any fish.   The marshy creek is only a foot deep, so
there is no where
for them to hide from the birds.    ( This creek may just be a man-made
dredged
channel, or at least that is what it is now. )

What I am getting at here, is this discharge does not appear to be hurting
the environment,
but I wouldn't want to go swimming in the Brazos River downstream of there.
  You wouldn't swim there anyways, as the gators would swallow you whole in
one gulp.

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