Re: [Therion] Therion Theory - scrap and map definitions

[Andrew Atkinson via Therion]

Yes I think it is useful, clarifies what I think I understand. Might
terrify a beginner. I obviously prefer Footleg's structure, but have used
elements of them all when data demanded.

Andrew

On 5 Jul 2017 9:08 pm, "Bruce Mutton via Therion"  wrote:

> A little while ago I explored the effects of different ways of relating
> scraps and maps to surveys, and to the files that contain them.
>
> I came up with the attached text, which I might get around to turning into
> a wiki page sometime.  There are links to some examples already available
> via the wiki.
>
>
>
> Before I wiki-ise it, I’d like some feedback, or criticism, as
> appropriate!  Is it helpful? (I think so)
>
>
>
> Footleg, I plagiarised your page, just a little.
>
> Also, if Danilo Magnani or Will Urbanski are still listening, or if
> someone knows how to contact them, I’d like permission to put on the wiki
> the project samples they posted to this forum some years ago. Those are
> named Complesso - Buc di V,  and DDC – Radio Collar Cave.
>
>
>
> Bruce
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Re: [Therion] Metapost exit code -- 2

[Saeid Bostandoust via Therion]

Thanks, All of my problem solved.Best regards, Saeid. 

On Monday, July 3, 2017 1:52 PM, Martin Sluka via Therion 
 wrote:
 

 The main problem is „overpointed“ lines with zillions of points - typical 
problem of TopoDroid.
In new version of Therion there is new command for lines - „simplify“. It 
should remove most of unnecessary points. When followed by command „Convert to 
curve“ you should receive smooth lines with only several points. Enough for 
good drawing and much, much, much faster.
Try another Android application - Qave.



scrap outline intersects itself  - it is only warning


 m.s.
    


2. 7. 2017 v 18:02, Saeid Bostandoust via Therion :
Im resolve a problem with a simple hack...1- duplicate topodroid scrap with 
topodroid survey.sql file now we have more than one scraps with same draw.2- 
split a cave into small scraps on locations near to the stations and just wall 
around them.3- remove not needed points, lines, areas and etc.4- now we have a 
project with all of stations and more than one scraps with draw.After that 
metapost works good and export done without any errors but for now a scrap line 
intersects itself warning occurs and i look for solution for resolve it.
This is a best simple way i think for split a sketch and your drawing...Thanks, 
Saeid. 

On Sunday, July 2, 2017 8:27 PM, Saeid Bostandoust  wrote:


Im resolve a problem with a simple hack...1- duplicate topodroid scrap with 
topodroid survey.sql file now we have more than one scraps with same draw.2- 
split a cave into small scraps on locations near to the stations and just wall 
around them.3- remove not needed points, lines, areas and etc.4- now we have a 
project with all of stations and more than one scraps with draw.This is a best 
simple way i think for split a sketch and your drawing...Thanks, Saeid.



On Sunday, July 2, 2017 1:04 PM, Martin Sluka  wrote:


Send me your files please. I'll chect it at evening - it is half past 10 a.m. 
here. 

Odesláno z iPhonu
2. 7. 2017 v 10:30, Saeid Bostandoust :


Im check it, all of my points, lines and etc... between scrap and endscarp and 
all of my design between cave wallsbut a problem not resolve.


On Sunday, July 2, 2017 12:44 PM, Martin Sluka via Therion  
wrote:


An scrap is a unit from which all Therion's output are created. 
So all objects of particular scrap MUST be between lines scrap - endsrap in th2 
files. Of they are outside, they will not be drawn. 
It is not simple work, all active objects of an active scrap are in blue. On 
top right corner of map editor is a window where is structure of your th2 file. 
Above it are buttons for selecting different parts of overall th2 file. Select 
the particular scrap by that button and check on map window if everything of 
that scrap is selected. If not check the line number of endscrap command of 
that scrap. There is a button "Move to" just bellow  of window with th2 
structure. Write there line number of endscrap, select missing objects on by 
one and press "Move to". 
Repeat it untill all objects will be in their particular scraps. 
Sorry, but no more simple way. 
Recommendation: Create small scraps  from beginning. 
m.s. 
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2. 7. 2017 v 9:20, Saeid Bostandoust via Therion :


Im resolve the problem by split my scrap into small scraps but another problems 
occurs.1- scrap outline intersects itself2- most of pit lines, slope lines, 
rock-border lines and etc... not exported to pdfWhat should i do?

### metapost log file 
This is MetaPost, version 1.209 (kpathsea version 5.1.0) (mem=mpost 2010.01.31) 
 2 JUL 2017 09:52
**data.mp
(./data.mp [4001] [4002] [4003] [4004] [4005] [4006] [4007] [4008] [4009] [4010
] [4011] [4012] [4013]
[1] [2]
[Warning: scrap outline intersects itself in scrap Cave-Plan4@Shapur]
[Warning: scrap outline intersects itself in scrap Cave-Plan4@Shapur] [3]
[4] [5] [6] [7] [8]
[Warning: scrap outline intersects itself in scrap Cave-Plan2@Shapur] [9]
[10] [11]
[Warning: scrap outline intersects itself in scrap Cave-Plan1@Shapur] [12]
[13] [14] (./mptextmp.mp) [15] )

On Sunday, July 2, 2017 10:31 AM, Saeid Bostandoust via Therion 
 wrote:


Thanks for answering.I found the problem nearly, my project plan is very large 
and a th2 file of plan is about 23000 lines, im delete most of lines and reduce 
it to near 5000 lines and all done without errors... what should i do now?maybe 
23000 lines cannot be parsed and processed with metapost...

On Sunday, July 2, 2017 6:55 AM, michael brewer via Therion  
wrote:


HiI had this error recently and solved it by changing the scale of the output 
from 1 500 to 1 1000. I assumed  my output was exceeding the size allowable for 
the pdf document? Michael From: Therion [mailto:therion-boun...@speleo.sk] On 
Behalf Of Saeid 

Re: [Therion] How to frame a box?

[Saeid Bostandoust via Therion]

Hi, Im looking for a way for add frames to legendbox too...And test any scripts 
but didnt found any way yet. 

On Tuesday, July 4, 2017 3:19 PM, Torsten Schnitter via Therion 
 wrote:
 

  Hi
I'm wondering if it's possible to draw a frame around e.g. a legendbox or any 
other box?
(I'm not talking about the frame around all the map which you can get with e.g. 
\framethickness=1mm)
In layout I'm using code like this:
\def\maplayout{
   ...
   \legendbox{0}{0}{NE}{\legendsymbols}
   \legendbox{0}{0}{NE}{\the\legendcontent}
   ...
}
Is it possible in any way to draw a frame around such a box?
Or does anyone have any code to get a framed box on the map?
Thanks for your help.
cheers,
Torsten
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[Therion] Bug of symbol for point passage-height in legend?

[Torsten Schnitter via Therion]

Hi

I observed a strange behavior of "point passage-height" or better let's say of 
it's symbol size in legend.
Using scale and base-scale in layout with different numbers the size of the 
symbol is changing in size and shouldn't.
Other symbols like e.g. water flow don't behave like this.
They don't change their size in legend when changing base-scale.

For example:
scale 1 500
base-scale 1 1500

The size of the symbol in legend is way to big and therefore doesn't fit into 
it's box anymore.

Is there any solution for this problem?

Thanks,
Torsten
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[Therion] Presentation "What is behind Therion" in several formats

[Martin Sluka via Therion]

Yo may download it only to July 18th 2017!

http://www.uschovna.cz/zasilka/MYC4H7WB3WHS76II-UKM/

m.s.
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