Re: [Therion] Removing the lines between survey stations created for surface features

2021-02-08 Thread David Eason via Therion
Thank you Tarquin and Benedikt for the tips.

-David

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>   surface features (Tarquin Wilton-Jones)
>3. Re: Removing the lines between survey stations created for
>   surface features (Benedikt Hallinger)
>4. Re: "\legendbox" "\loadpicture" and absolute paths (Martin Budaj)
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> Dear therion mailing list,
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> Does anyone know how to remove the lines that appear between survey
> stations used for surveying around surface features?
>
> I ran survey legs around dolines and pools, leading to a main entrance
> where the actual cave starts. I used the "flags surface" command to remove
> the surface stations from the main cave station sequence and added them to
> their own "surface features" scrap in the drawing, but when the drawing
> gets compiled, these surface stations are all joined by densely dotted
> lines, as opposed to the short survey lines between cave survey stations
> indicating the direction of the legs.
>
> Apart from this, the surface feature drawing all works pretty well, using
> the line type "border" with "clip" set to "off". I'd like the temporary
> survey station symbols to remain, so they appear as the stations within the
> cave.
>
> Best,
> David E
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> From: Tarquin Wilton-Jones 
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> Hi David,
>
> > Does anyone know how to remove the lines that appear between survey
> > stations used for surveying around surface features?
>
> symbol-hide group surface-centreline
>
> This also hides the stations. If you want those, you need to put them back:
>
> symbol-show point station
>
> And then you can also hide the temporary stations, so only the
> fixed/painted/permanent stations are shown:
>
> symbol-hide point station:temporary
>
> The statements are interpreted in the order you write them, so put the
> most generic one first, then get more specific. As far as I remember,
> you cannot choose to show/hide only surface temporary stations while
> showing only the underground painted ones (you can only do the whole
> surface centreline at once, while the stations relate to surface and
> underground at the same time). Maybe others know of a way though.
>
> > Apart from this, the surface feature drawing all works pretty well,
> > using the line type "border" with "clip" set to "off".
>
> I like slope for dolines, and pitch for cliffs.
>
> https://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/surfacefeatures
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tarquin
>
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> Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2021 18:49:05 +0100
> From: Benedikt Hallinger 
> To: List for Therion users 
> Subject: Re: [Therion] Removing the lines between survey stations
> created for surface features
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> An option could be to overwrite the symbols with empty metapost ones
>
> > Am 07.02.2021 um 17:51 schrieb Tarquin Wilton-Jones via Therion <
> therion@speleo.sk>:
> >
> > Hi David,
> >
> >> Does anyone know how to remove the lines that appear between survey
> >> stations used for surveying around surface features?
> >
> > symbol-hide group surface-centreline
> >
> > This also hides the stations. If you want those, you need to put them
> back:
> >
> > symbol-show point station
> >
> > And then you can also hide the temporary stations, so only the
> > fixed/painted/permanent stations are shown:
> >
> > symbol-hide point station:temporary
> >
> > The statements 

[Therion] Removing the lines between survey stations created for surface features

2021-02-07 Thread David Eason via Therion
Dear therion mailing list,

Does anyone know how to remove the lines that appear between survey
stations used for surveying around surface features?

I ran survey legs around dolines and pools, leading to a main entrance
where the actual cave starts. I used the "flags surface" command to remove
the surface stations from the main cave station sequence and added them to
their own "surface features" scrap in the drawing, but when the drawing
gets compiled, these surface stations are all joined by densely dotted
lines, as opposed to the short survey lines between cave survey stations
indicating the direction of the legs.

Apart from this, the surface feature drawing all works pretty well, using
the line type "border" with "clip" set to "off". I'd like the temporary
survey station symbols to remain, so they appear as the stations within the
cave.

Best,
David E
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Re: [Therion] Running Xtherion on Mac OS X Catalina

2020-04-01 Thread David Eason via Therion
Thanks for the suggestion Phil (and others).

I finally fixed this, but it feels like a bit of a hack. I placed the
folder containing the bwidget-1.9.14 scripts for tcl/tk into the directory
/usr/local/Cellar/tcl-tk/8.6.10/lib/tcl8.6 as this was already on the tcl
auto_path. Wish then starts and Xtherion happily runs.

I'm not sure why, but setting auto_path in the tcl shell did not work. I
could set it once, and then run a package require BWidget command, and Wish
would start up, but then any subsequent commands would fail to find it, and
location of the scripts was not located on the auto_path. Perhaps this is
something to do with permissions? I'm not sure.

I'm running therion 5.4.4 (+543a8b1).

Regards,
David

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> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 18:27:03 +0200
> From: Philippe Vernant 
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> Hi David,
>
> Did you try to reinstall Therion after updating to Catalina ? I don’t have
> Catalina, I’m sticking to High Sierra where everything is running fine so
> far.
> How do you usually install Therion on a Mac ?
>
> Best,
> Phil
>
>
> > On 30 Mar 2020, at 22:04, David Eason via Therion 
> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Therion mailing list,
> >
> > I wonder if anyone has had any success building, installing and running
> Therion on Mac OS X Catalina (OS 10.15.2)? I have successfully built and
> installed Therion 5.4.4, and Therion and Loch both run fine. Before the
> upgrade, everything worked OK, but it looks like some things have moved
> around in this version of OS X, amongst other things breaking. When I try
> to run Xtherion, Tcl/Tk can't seem to locate BWidget, and the GUI can't run:
> >
> > Error in startup script: can't find package BWidget
> > while executing
> > "package require BWidget"
> > (file "/usr/local/bin/xtherion" line 12268)
> >
> > I have tried unpacking the bwidget 1.9.14 scripts to /usr/local/lib
> thinking that tcl would check there, and then also tried to set auto_path
> to force tcl to look in there, but it won't seem to start up. There's a
> pause, and Wish seems to start up, and yet XQuartz actually opens; I have
> tcl 8.6 installed and can run the tclsh OK.
> >
> > It's been frustrating me for a while, and I saw this lockdown in the UK
> as an opportunity to have another look at this. Any pointers or tips would
> be most welcome.
> >
> > Regards,
> > David Eason
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> Here are my notes of the last install on High Sierra with homebrew, in
> case it can help …
>
> 1) Install homebrew
> 2) Install survex via homebrew (cf. survex site web)
> 3) brew install tcl-tk
> 4) install the mactex package
> 5) add in ~/.profile :
>export PATH=/Library/TeX/texbin:$PATH
> 6) brew install vtk
> 7) In therion/loch, change the Makefile :
>comment: #VTKLIBPATH = $(shell tclsh ./getvtkver.tcl libpath)
>add: VTKLIBPATH = /usr/local/lib/
> 8) In Therion directory
>make config-macosx
>make
>
> Phil
>
>
> > O

[Therion] Running Xtherion on Mac OS X Catalina

2020-03-30 Thread David Eason via Therion
Dear Therion mailing list,

I wonder if anyone has had any success building, installing and running
Therion on Mac OS X Catalina (OS 10.15.2)? I have successfully built and
installed Therion 5.4.4, and Therion and Loch both run fine. Before the
upgrade, everything worked OK, but it looks like some things have moved
around in this version of OS X, amongst other things breaking. When I try
to run Xtherion, Tcl/Tk can't seem to locate BWidget, and the GUI can't run:

Error in startup script: can't find package BWidget
while executing
"package require BWidget"
(file "/usr/local/bin/xtherion" line 12268)

I have tried unpacking the bwidget 1.9.14 scripts to /usr/local/lib
thinking that tcl would check there, and then also tried to set auto_path
to force tcl to look in there, but it won't seem to start up. There's a
pause, and Wish seems to start up, and yet XQuartz actually opens; I have
tcl 8.6 installed and can run the tclsh OK.

It's been frustrating me for a while, and I saw this lockdown in the UK as
an opportunity to have another look at this. Any pointers or tips would be
most welcome.

Regards,
David Eason
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