[Therion] KML Issues

[Bruce]

Thanks for the feedback Nick.

I'll endeavor to update the wiki kml entry, as your comments would make it
clearer.

Remind me in a few weeks if I haven't got around to it.

Bruce



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From: therion-bounces at speleo.sk [mailto:therion-boun...@speleo.sk] On Behalf
Of Nick Bairstow
Sent: Tuesday, 28 July 2015 11:26 p.m.
To: 'List for Therion users'
Subject: Re: [Therion] KML Issues



Right, things I found.

Firstly I found a sneaky boulder which had been drawn with a wall line. I
now know about the search and select function in the map editor this is
clearly very useful for checking feature types and it will be in regular use
from now on.

I found a pillar without the -outside in option on.

With these two things corrected the kml output was nearly there I just had a
few strange shapes to certain bits of the map so next I looked at the open
passages. I put extra wall lines across the open ends one at a time and this
sorted the strange shapes but doing this showed that not all open passage
ends caused a problem some rendered fine with a straight edge between the
two wall ends. It was obvious which open ends caused problems as these were
the origin points of the strange additional shapes.

Feeling quite pleased with myself now, just the other 4/5 th2's to sort out
to get a nice Google earth image of the system so far.



Thanks



Nick.



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From: therion-bounces at speleo.sk [mailto:therion-boun...@speleo.sk] On Behalf
Of Nick Bairstow
Sent: 28 July 2015 11:18
To: 'List for Therion users'
Subject: Re: [Therion] KML Issues



I will use my worst kml map export and trim it back to just walls to
simplify it. I will experiment with closing passage ends etc as there are
several on this map and see what happens. I shall report back.



Nick.





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From: therion-bounces at speleo.sk [mailto:therion-boun...@speleo.sk] On Behalf
Of Bruce
Sent: 27 July 2015 20:39
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Subject: Re: [Therion] KML Issues



Nick

Check this wiki entry
http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php/tips#avoiding_invisible_or_misshapen_
scraps_in_loch_and_google_earth



Bruce



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From: therion-bounces at speleo.sk [mailto:therion-boun...@speleo.sk] On Behalf
Of Andrew Atkinson
Sent: Tuesday, 28 July 2015 4:46 a.m.
To: Therion
Subject: Re: [Therion] KML Issues




On 27 Jul 2015 5:34 pm, "Nick Bairstow"  wrote:
>

>
> I have checked for walls/pillars with the tick mark the wrong way round
and all look OK. I notice that other people have had issues with this a
while back and even noticed that Andrew stopped using kml output. In all
cases the compile runs with no warnings and the pdf output is fine.
>
I have not stopped, just googlemaps got rid of the easy way to put kml on,
by embedding the links. They are more fussy than pdf, bug looks like you
have checked for the right things. Sometimes you need to close the end of a
scrap with an invisible wall for the algorithm to work, this was a solution
to a previous email thread I started on loc models, but it seems to apply to
kml as well. Currently I am away with limited tech so cannot find the
thread, hopefully someone else  will help you with the rest, otherwise I
will in 10days or so

Andrew

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[Therion] KML Issues

[Nick Bairstow]

Right, things I found.
Firstly I found a sneaky boulder which had been drawn with a wall line. I now 
know about the search and select function in the map editor this is clearly 
very useful for checking feature types and it will be in regular use from now 
on.
I found a pillar without the -outside in option on.
With these two things corrected the kml output was nearly there I just had a 
few strange shapes to certain bits of the map so next I looked at the open 
passages. I put extra wall lines across the open ends one at a time and this 
sorted the strange shapes but doing this showed that not all open passage ends 
caused a problem some rendered fine with a straight edge between the two wall 
ends. It was obvious which open ends caused problems as these were the origin 
points of the strange additional shapes.
Feeling quite pleased with myself now, just the other 4/5 th2's to sort out to 
get a nice Google earth image of the system so far.

Thanks

Nick.


From: therion-bounces at speleo.sk [mailto:therion-boun...@speleo.sk] On Behalf 
Of Nick Bairstow
Sent: 28 July 2015 11:18
To: 'List for Therion users'
Subject: Re: [Therion] KML Issues

I will use my worst kml map export and trim it back to just walls to simplify 
it. I will experiment with closing passage ends etc as there are several on 
this map and see what happens. I shall report back.

Nick.



From: therion-bounces at speleo.sk [mailto:therion-boun...@speleo.sk] On Behalf 
Of Bruce
Sent: 27 July 2015 20:39
To: 'List for Therion users'
Subject: Re: [Therion] KML Issues

Nick
Check this wiki entry 
http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php/tips#avoiding_invisible_or_misshapen_scraps_in_loch_and_google_earth

Bruce


From: therion-bounces at speleo.sk [mailto:therion-boun...@speleo.sk] On Behalf 
Of Andrew Atkinson
Sent: Tuesday, 28 July 2015 4:46 a.m.
To: Therion
Subject: Re: [Therion] KML Issues


On 27 Jul 2015 5:34 pm, "Nick Bairstow" mailto:Nick at 
pff.uk.com>> wrote:
>

>
> I have checked for walls/pillars with the tick mark the wrong way round and 
> all look OK. I notice that other people have had issues with this a while 
> back and even noticed that Andrew stopped using kml output. In all cases the 
> compile runs with no warnings and the pdf output is fine.
>
I have not stopped, just googlemaps got rid of the easy way to put kml on, by 
embedding the links. They are more fussy than pdf, bug looks like you have 
checked for the right things. Sometimes you need to close the end of a scrap 
with an invisible wall for the algorithm to work, this was a solution to a 
previous email thread I started on loc models, but it seems to apply to kml as 
well. Currently I am away with limited tech so cannot find the thread, 
hopefully someone else  will help you with the rest, otherwise I will in 10days 
or so

Andrew
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[Nick Bairstow]

I will use my worst kml map export and trim it back to just walls to simplify 
it. I will experiment with closing passage ends etc as there are several on 
this map and see what happens. I shall report back.

Nick.



From: therion-bounces at speleo.sk [mailto:therion-boun...@speleo.sk] On Behalf 
Of Bruce
Sent: 27 July 2015 20:39
To: 'List for Therion users'
Subject: Re: [Therion] KML Issues

Nick
Check this wiki entry 
http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php/tips#avoiding_invisible_or_misshapen_scraps_in_loch_and_google_earth

Bruce


From: therion-bounces at speleo.sk [mailto:therion-boun...@speleo.sk] On Behalf 
Of Andrew Atkinson
Sent: Tuesday, 28 July 2015 4:46 a.m.
To: Therion
Subject: Re: [Therion] KML Issues


On 27 Jul 2015 5:34 pm, "Nick Bairstow" mailto:Nick at 
pff.uk.com>> wrote:
>

>
> I have checked for walls/pillars with the tick mark the wrong way round and 
> all look OK. I notice that other people have had issues with this a while 
> back and even noticed that Andrew stopped using kml output. In all cases the 
> compile runs with no warnings and the pdf output is fine.
>
I have not stopped, just googlemaps got rid of the easy way to put kml on, by 
embedding the links. They are more fussy than pdf, bug looks like you have 
checked for the right things. Sometimes you need to close the end of a scrap 
with an invisible wall for the algorithm to work, this was a solution to a 
previous email thread I started on loc models, but it seems to apply to kml as 
well. Currently I am away with limited tech so cannot find the thread, 
hopefully someone else  will help you with the rest, otherwise I will in 10days 
or so

Andrew
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[Bruce]

Nick

Check this wiki entry
http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php/tips#avoiding_invisible_or_misshapen_
scraps_in_loch_and_google_earth



Bruce



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Of Andrew Atkinson
Sent: Tuesday, 28 July 2015 4:46 a.m.
To: Therion
Subject: Re: [Therion] KML Issues




On 27 Jul 2015 5:34 pm, "Nick Bairstow"  wrote:
>

>
> I have checked for walls/pillars with the tick mark the wrong way round
and all look OK. I notice that other people have had issues with this a
while back and even noticed that Andrew stopped using kml output. In all
cases the compile runs with no warnings and the pdf output is fine.
>
I have not stopped, just googlemaps got rid of the easy way to put kml on,
by embedding the links. They are more fussy than pdf, bug looks like you
have checked for the right things. Sometimes you need to close the end of a
scrap with an invisible wall for the algorithm to work, this was a solution
to a previous email thread I started on loc models, but it seems to apply to
kml as well. Currently I am away with limited tech so cannot find the
thread, hopefully someone else  will help you with the rest, otherwise I
will in 10days or so

Andrew

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[Marco Corvi]

hi nick,
there is the option"-disable splay-shots":
seems to work for kml exports.

marco

On 7/27/15, Nick Bairstow  wrote:
> My "export model -o ##NAME##.kml" exports work fine but "export map -o
> ##NAME##.kml" sometimes works perfectly but other times I get small
> pieces/part of a cave missing.
> I have checked for walls/pillars with the tick mark the wrong way round and
> all look OK. I notice that other people have had issues with this a while
> back and even noticed that Andrew stopped using kml output. In all cases the
> compile runs with no warnings and the pdf output is fine.
> Am I wasting my time, is there a better way to get similar results.
> Also on the "model" outputs is there a way to show just centreline and not
> the splays, I see this question has been asked before but I could not see an
> answer.
> I really quite like the kml outputs as you can get the evenings survey into
> Google earth before the first pints half way down whist sat in the pub
> afterwards -not always 100% positioned at this point but it still looks good
> -
>
> Nick.
>
>
>
>

[Therion] KML Issues

[Andrew Atkinson]

On 27 Jul 2015 5:34 pm, "Nick Bairstow"  wrote:
>

>
> I have checked for walls/pillars with the tick mark the wrong way round
and all look OK. I notice that other people have had issues with this a
while back and even noticed that Andrew stopped using kml output. In all
cases the compile runs with no warnings and the pdf output is fine.
>
I have not stopped, just googlemaps got rid of the easy way to put kml on,
by embedding the links. They are more fussy than pdf, bug looks like you
have checked for the right things. Sometimes you need to close the end of a
scrap with an invisible wall for the algorithm to work, this was a solution
to a previous email thread I started on loc models, but it seems to apply
to kml as well. Currently I am away with limited tech so cannot find the
thread, hopefully someone else  will help you with the rest, otherwise I
will in 10days or so

Andrew
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[Nick Bairstow]

My "export model -o ##NAME##.kml" exports work fine but "export map -o 
##NAME##.kml" sometimes works perfectly but other times I get small pieces/part 
of a cave missing.
I have checked for walls/pillars with the tick mark the wrong way round and all 
look OK. I notice that other people have had issues with this a while back and 
even noticed that Andrew stopped using kml output. In all cases the compile 
runs with no warnings and the pdf output is fine.
Am I wasting my time, is there a better way to get similar results.
Also on the "model" outputs is there a way to show just centreline and not the 
splays, I see this question has been asked before but I could not see an answer.
I really quite like the kml outputs as you can get the evenings survey into 
Google earth before the first pints half way down whist sat in the pub 
afterwards -not always 100% positioned at this point but it still looks good -

Nick.



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