Re: [Therion] Migovec Github survey data project

2021-12-21 Thread Martin Sluka via Therion
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> 21. 12. 2021 v 10:18, Bruce Mutton :
> 
> 
> Thanks Rhys, good to meet you.
> Your answer explains the gap I detected.
> I recall small groups of cavers bent over a large table drawing on film with 
> ink pens.  Thirty years ago.  We haven’t managed to duplicate the physicality 
> and sociability since, but at least since we found version control just over 
> a decade ago we can have a few people working on the same project, even if it 
> is usually alone and one at a time.  And we don’t have to unclog pens.
> Very interested in your custom point map-connection by the way.
> Bruce
>  
> From: Therion  On Behalf Of Rhys Tyers
> Sent: Tuesday, 21 December 2021 12:08
> To: List for Therion users 
> Subject: Re: [Therion] Migovec Github survey data project
>  
> Hey, I work on this repository. Thank you for your kind words.
>  
> We use github as a convenient means to collaborate amongst ourselves and host 
> data but I guess we differ from an open source software project in that 
> there's not much point in accepting outside contribution as only people who 
> attend our expedition are generally interested in drawing our survey!
>  
> We generally collaborate by running a meeting via voice chat and drawing 
> survey as a social activity, emulating how we drew before Therion.
>  
> Theoretically we could use pull requests and issues to work on our data but 
> as we are normally talking to eachother as we draw it is just easier to push 
> what each person does sequentially to master, relying on git to avoid messing 
> anything up. 
>  
> Also most of our contributors are science students and while they have a 
> familiarity with git they normally haven't really used it for collaboration 
> in the same way someone working in software would.
>  
> As for the broken thconfigs the answer is similar, that the current drawers 
> know which ones work and it's a bit fluid so we haven't bothered documenting 
> it.
>  
> Half the reason it exists in it's current format is that I do work in 
> software so I tend to maintain all the extraneous git cruft as my armchair 
> caving while other people focus on the _actual_ work of drawing stuff 
>  
> If you do have any questions about it feel free to email me or Imperial 
> caving.
>  
> Rhys
>  
> On Sun, 19 Dec 2021, 11:38 Benedikt Hallinger,  wrote:
> Hi,
> no specific info on the exact project, but generally you could open a issue 
> ticket there and ask your very question. Each project may have its own rules.
>  
> But most commonly it works this way:
> - you clone the repo at github (so its public)
> - you make a new branch and do your stuff
> - you then open a pull request against the upstream repo
> - someone there inspects it and if it is accepted, will merge
> - done
>  
> Am 19.12.2021 um 00:43 schrieb Bruce Mutton :
> 
> Not directly a Therion question.
> I’ve been loosely following the progress of 
> https://github.com/iccaving/migovec-survey-data a couple of years, but only 
> recently started migrating some projects of my own to git.
>  So thought I’d dispense with just admiring the outputs and fork the migovec 
> repository to do a deep dive learn from the apparent masters…
> The README.md is exemplary, but the section on ‘How to contribute’ seems to 
> be missing a most important thing – how do contributors interact with other 
> contributors and the repository?  The lack of issues and forks that similar 
> sized GitHub projects have suggests I’m missing something obvious.  I know 
> Therion pretty well, passible on version control but only just cutting my 
> teeth on git and GitHub.
>  I found a simple problem in some thconfigs that causes Therion to crash and 
> exit, and located the cause in the history.  I could potentially fix it, make 
> a pull request, but as I have only studied the migovec structure for 
> literally 10 minutes, any ‘fix’ I work on will take me a while and be bound 
> to be error prone.  Better for me just to point out the problem.
>  Anyone here know how the iccaving migovec Therion team communicates or would 
> one of them on this list be able to PM me?
>  Bruce
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Re: [Therion] Migovec Github survey data project

2021-12-21 Thread Bruce Mutton
Thanks Rhys, good to meet you.

Your answer explains the gap I detected.

I recall small groups of cavers bent over a large table drawing on film with 
ink pens.  Thirty years ago.  We haven’t managed to duplicate the physicality 
and sociability since, but at least since we found version control just over a 
decade ago we can have a few people working on the same project, even if it is 
usually alone and one at a time.  And we don’t have to unclog pens.

Very interested in your custom point map-connection by the way.

Bruce

 

From: Therion  On Behalf Of Rhys Tyers
Sent: Tuesday, 21 December 2021 12:08
To: List for Therion users 
Subject: Re: [Therion] Migovec Github survey data project

 

Hey, I work on this repository. Thank you for your kind words.

 

We use github as a convenient means to collaborate amongst ourselves and host 
data but I guess we differ from an open source software project in that there's 
not much point in accepting outside contribution as only people who attend our 
expedition are generally interested in drawing our survey!

 

We generally collaborate by running a meeting via voice chat and drawing survey 
as a social activity, emulating how we drew before Therion.

 

Theoretically we could use pull requests and issues to work on our data but as 
we are normally talking to eachother as we draw it is just easier to push what 
each person does sequentially to master, relying on git to avoid messing 
anything up. 

 

Also most of our contributors are science students and while they have a 
familiarity with git they normally haven't really used it for collaboration in 
the same way someone working in software would.

 

As for the broken thconfigs the answer is similar, that the current drawers 
know which ones work and it's a bit fluid so we haven't bothered documenting it.

 

Half the reason it exists in it's current format is that I do work in software 
so I tend to maintain all the extraneous git cruft as my armchair caving while 
other people focus on the _actual_ work of drawing stuff 

 

If you do have any questions about it feel free to email me or Imperial caving.

 

Rhys

 

On Sun, 19 Dec 2021, 11:38 Benedikt Hallinger, mailto:b...@hallinger.org> > wrote:

Hi,

no specific info on the exact project, but generally you could open a issue 
ticket there and ask your very question. Each project may have its own rules.

 

But most commonly it works this way:

- you clone the repo at github (so its public)

- you make a new branch and do your stuff

- you then open a pull request against the upstream repo

- someone there inspects it and if it is accepted, will merge

- done

 

Am 19.12.2021 um 00:43 schrieb Bruce Mutton mailto:br...@tomo.co.nz> >:

Not directly a Therion question.

I’ve been loosely following the progress of 
https://github.com/iccaving/migovec-survey-data a couple of years, but only 
recently started migrating some projects of my own to git.

 So thought I’d dispense with just admiring the outputs and fork the migovec 
repository to do a deep dive learn from the apparent masters…

The README.md is exemplary, but the section on ‘How to contribute’ seems to be 
missing a most important thing – how do contributors interact with other 
contributors and the repository?  The lack of issues and forks that similar 
sized GitHub projects have suggests I’m missing something obvious.  I know 
Therion pretty well, passible on version control but only just cutting my teeth 
on git and GitHub.

 I found a simple problem in some thconfigs that causes Therion to crash and 
exit, and located the cause in the history.  I could potentially fix it, make a 
pull request, but as I have only studied the migovec structure for literally 10 
minutes, any ‘fix’ I work on will take me a while and be bound to be error 
prone.  Better for me just to point out the problem.

 Anyone here know how the iccaving migovec Therion team communicates or would 
one of them on this list be able to PM me?

 Bruce

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Re: [Therion] Migovec Github survey data project

2021-12-20 Thread Rhys Tyers
Hey, I work on this repository. Thank you for your kind words.

We use github as a convenient means to collaborate amongst ourselves and
host data but I guess we differ from an open source software project in
that there's not much point in accepting outside contribution as only
people who attend our expedition are generally interested in drawing our
survey!

We generally collaborate by running a meeting via voice chat and drawing
survey as a social activity, emulating how we drew before Therion.

Theoretically we could use pull requests and issues to work on our data but
as we are normally talking to eachother as we draw it is just easier to
push what each person does sequentially to master, relying on git to avoid
messing anything up.

Also most of our contributors are science students and while they have a
familiarity with git they normally haven't really used it for collaboration
in the same way someone working in software would.

As for the broken thconfigs the answer is similar, that the current drawers
know which ones work and it's a bit fluid so we haven't bothered
documenting it.

Half the reason it exists in it's current format is that I do work in
software so I tend to maintain all the extraneous git cruft as my armchair
caving while other people focus on the _actual_ work of drawing stuff 

If you do have any questions about it feel free to email me or Imperial
caving.

Rhys

On Sun, 19 Dec 2021, 11:38 Benedikt Hallinger,  wrote:

> Hi,
> no specific info on the exact project, but generally you could open a
> issue ticket there and ask your very question. Each project may have its
> own rules.
>
> But most commonly it works this way:
> - you clone the repo at github (so its public)
> - you make a new branch and do your stuff
> - you then open a pull request against the upstream repo
> - someone there inspects it and if it is accepted, will merge
> - done
>
> Am 19.12.2021 um 00:43 schrieb Bruce Mutton :
>
> 
>
> Not directly a Therion question.
>
> I’ve been loosely following the progress of
> https://github.com/iccaving/migovec-survey-data a couple of years, but
> only recently started migrating some projects of my own to git.
>
>
>
> So thought I’d dispense with just admiring the outputs and fork the
> migovec repository to do a deep dive learn from the apparent masters…
>
> The REDME.md is exemplary, but the section on ‘How to contribute’ seems to
> be missing a most important thing – how do contributors interact with other
> contributors and the repository?  The lack of issues and forks that similar
> sized GitHub projects have suggests I’m missing something obvious.  I know
> Therion pretty well, passible on version control but only just cutting my
> teeth on git and GitHub.
>
>
>
> I found a simple problem in some thconfigs that causes Therion to crash
> and exit, and located the cause in the history.  I could potentially fix
> it, make a pull request, but as I have only studied the migovec structure
> for literally 10 minutes, any ‘fix’ I work on will take me a while and be
> bound to be error prone.  Better for me just to point out the problem.
>
>
>
> Anyone here know how the iccaving migovec Therion team communicates or
> would one of them on this list be able to PM me?
>
>
>
> Bruce
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Re: [Therion] Migovec Github survey data project

2021-12-19 Thread Benedikt Hallinger
Hi,
no specific info on the exact project, but generally you could open a issue 
ticket there and ask your very question. Each project may have its own rules.

But most commonly it works this way:
- you clone the repo at github (so its public)
- you make a new branch and do your stuff
- you then open a pull request against the upstream repo
- someone there inspects it and if it is accepted, will merge
- done

> Am 19.12.2021 um 00:43 schrieb Bruce Mutton :
> 
> 
> Not directly a Therion question.
> I’ve been loosely following the progress of 
> https://github.com/iccaving/migovec-survey-data a couple of years, but only 
> recently started migrating some projects of my own to git.
>  
> So thought I’d dispense with just admiring the outputs and fork the migovec 
> repository to do a deep dive learn from the apparent masters…
> The REDME.md is exemplary, but the section on ‘How to contribute’ seems to be 
> missing a most important thing – how do contributors interact with other 
> contributors and the repository?  The lack of issues and forks that similar 
> sized GitHub projects have suggests I’m missing something obvious.  I know 
> Therion pretty well, passible on version control but only just cutting my 
> teeth on git and GitHub.
>  
> I found a simple problem in some thconfigs that causes Therion to crash and 
> exit, and located the cause in the history.  I could potentially fix it, make 
> a pull request, but as I have only studied the migovec structure for 
> literally 10 minutes, any ‘fix’ I work on will take me a while and be bound 
> to be error prone.  Better for me just to point out the problem.
>  
> Anyone here know how the iccaving migovec Therion team communicates or would 
> one of them on this list be able to PM me?
>  
> Bruce
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[Therion] Migovec Github survey data project

2021-12-18 Thread Bruce Mutton
Not directly a Therion question.

I've been loosely following the progress of
https://github.com/iccaving/migovec-survey-data a couple of years, but only
recently started migrating some projects of my own to git.

 

So thought I'd dispense with just admiring the outputs and fork the migovec
repository to do a deep dive learn from the apparent masters.

The REDME.md is exemplary, but the section on 'How to contribute' seems to
be missing a most important thing - how do contributors interact with other
contributors and the repository?  The lack of issues and forks that similar
sized GitHub projects have suggests I'm missing something obvious.  I know
Therion pretty well, passible on version control but only just cutting my
teeth on git and GitHub.

 

I found a simple problem in some thconfigs that causes Therion to crash and
exit, and located the cause in the history.  I could potentially fix it,
make a pull request, but as I have only studied the migovec structure for
literally 10 minutes, any 'fix' I work on will take me a while and be bound
to be error prone.  Better for me just to point out the problem.

 

Anyone here know how the iccaving migovec Therion team communicates or would
one of them on this list be able to PM me?

 

Bruce

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