Re: [Thunar-dev] How to use the eject function

2007-12-12 Thread Benedikt Meurer
Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
 I can confirm that I have no Eject button in the shortcuts pane
 without the patch, and and Eject button with the patch.
 Committed. Bug Brian to fix xfdesktop as well.
 
 Are there patches against 4.4.2?

http://thunar.xfce.org/download/sources/Thunar/0.9.0/Thunar-0.9.0-use-eject-where-necessary.patch

Benedikt
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Re: [Thunar-dev] How to use the eject function

2007-12-12 Thread Jean-François Wauthy

On Wed, 2007-12-12 at 01:18 +0100, Tino Keitel wrote:

 Btw., the 4.4.2 version is missing in Bugzilla.
 

It's there now.
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Re: [Thunar-dev] How to use the eject function

2007-12-12 Thread Tino Keitel
On Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 01:18:46 +0100, Tino Keitel wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 15:44:36 -0800, Brian J. Tarricone wrote:
  Tino Keitel wrote:
   On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 20:31:34 +0100, Benedikt Meurer wrote:
   Tino Keitel wrote:
   I can confirm that I have no Eject button in the shortcuts pane
   without the patch, and and Eject button with the patch.
   Committed. Bug Brian to fix xfdesktop as well.
   
   I patched xfdesktop in a minimal way (see the attachment), which lead
   to the following inconsistency:
   
   In thunar, either Eject or Unmount is shown in the menu, depending
   on thunar_vfs_volume_is_ejectable(). In xfdesktop, both Eject and
   Unmount are shown when thunar_vfs_volume_is_ejectable() returns
   true.
   
   What behaviour should be preferred?
  
  Eject.  Feel free to cook up a patch, open a bug on bugzilla, and attach it.
 
 Done.

Hi Brian,

what do you think about the patch? It does not hurry for Xfce itself,
but the Debian maintainers wait for a comment to decide if this fix can
be included in the 4.4.2 build for Debian.

Regards,
Tino
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Re: [Thunar-dev] How to use the eject function

2007-12-12 Thread Tino Keitel
On Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 10:16:11 -0800, Brian J. Tarricone wrote:

[...]

 P.S.  Also, what happens for the Floppy Drive icon?  Sounds pretty 
 confusing to have an Eject menu item that -- physically -- appears to 
 do nothing (unless you're on an old Mac).

When your floppy device HAL entry contains requires_eject, then
Thunar will create an Eject menu entry. So when the hardware doesn't
support eject, but HAL reports it, then HAL is wrong, not Xfce. :-)

Regards,
Tino
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Re: [Thunar-dev] How to use the eject function

2007-12-12 Thread Brian J. Tarricone
Tino Keitel wrote:

 Hi Brian,
 
 what do you think about the patch? It does not hurry for Xfce itself,
 but the Debian maintainers wait for a comment to decide if this fix can
 be included in the 4.4.2 build for Debian.

Functionally it looks ok (haven't tested it; just glanced at the patch).

I do have issues with using the term Eject here.  It makes sense for 
optical or tape drives, but not really for (e.g.) USB flash drives. 
I've seen discussion about this elsewhere, but I don't remember where, 
or what the conclusions were, and I don't have a better word or phrase 
to use in its place.  It appears that both WinXP (right click on a USB 
drive in Explorer) and MacOS X (right click [or control-click] on USB 
drive in the shortcuts pane in Finder) use the Eject terminology, so 
at least it's not without precedent...

-brian

P.S.  Also, what happens for the Floppy Drive icon?  Sounds pretty 
confusing to have an Eject menu item that -- physically -- appears to 
do nothing (unless you're on an old Mac).
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Re: [Thunar-dev] How to use the eject function

2007-12-12 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On mer, 2007-12-12 at 10:16 -0800, Brian J. Tarricone wrote:
 I do have issues with using the term Eject here.  It makes sense
 for 
 optical or tape drives, but not really for (e.g.) USB flash drives. 

Somebody just told me that vfat fs are not totally sync()ed at umount,
that you needed to send and eject so everything is clean properly. I
don't have any source but it may be a good idea to provide this :)

Cheers,
-- 
Yves-Alexis

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