Re: [Thunar-dev] Mounting fails due to no available org.freedesktop.Hal services

2007-01-14 Thread Jannis Pohlmann
On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 10:04:06 +0100, Benedikt Meurer wrote:

> Jannis Pohlmann wrote:
> > On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 22:40:10 +0100, Benedikt Meurer wrote:
> > 
> >> Jannis Pohlmann wrote:
> >>> But: Whenever I start thunar with a running hald (sorry, my last
> >>> mail contained a lot of hald-* processes, but not "hald" itself)
> >>> and try to mount one of the devices, I get this:
> >>>
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ thunar
> >>> Thunar: Failed to connect to the D-BUS session bus: Failed to
> >>> connect to socket /tmp/dbus-TTavTtFLD4: Verbindungsaufbau
> >>> abgelehnt
> >> D-Bus system daemon not running.
> >>
> >>> And after that, "hald" is not running anymore (but the helper apps
> >>> are, as listed my last mail). Weird, isn't it?
> >> Well, either a problem with D-Bus or a problem with HAL.
> > 
> > Probably, yes. It's just that I can't really verify what's wrong.
> > I've D-BUS 1.0.1, D-BUS GLib bindings 0.72 and HAL 0.5.8.1
> > installed on my system (Lunar Linux, so none of the original config
> > files - like /etc/dbus-1/system.d/hal.conf - were modified).
> > 
> > Now if I start D-BUS and HAL and try to mount something, I get this
> > "... is not provided by any .service files" error message. After
> > that, hald isn't running anymore. This is what happens as root. Now
> > if I set up D-BUS to give normal users access to some HAL-related
> > D-BUS services, like you suggested to Samuel in his bug report, I
> > get exactly the same error.
> > 
> > I know the package versions are pretty much bleeding edge as Lunar
> > isn't bound to fixed package release cycles, but nonetheless I'd
> > love to be able to get some more debugging information out of
> > Thunar/HAL/D-BUS to find a fix for this annoyance. After all, I
> > remember that it worked before exo-mount was introduced.
> 
> HAL is probably crashing in the Mount method. Run hald with
> --daemon=no --verbose=yes.

Believe it or not, but when I tried to run "hald --daemon=no
--verbose=yes", it immediately worked. And on the next day, when I
wanted to look into why it didn't work with the hald init script, that
also worked.

I don't really like problems randomly disappearing because this gives
me a feeling of not having control over them. Anyway, problem solved,
no need to invest more time into searching a bug that does not exist.

Thanks,
Jannis
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Re: [Thunar-dev] Mounting fails due to no available org.freedesktop.Hal services

2007-01-13 Thread Benedikt Meurer
Jannis Pohlmann wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 22:40:10 +0100, Benedikt Meurer wrote:
> 
>> Jannis Pohlmann wrote:
>>> But: Whenever I start thunar with a running hald (sorry, my last
>>> mail contained a lot of hald-* processes, but not "hald" itself)
>>> and try to mount one of the devices, I get this:
>>>
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ thunar
>>> Thunar: Failed to connect to the D-BUS session bus: Failed to
>>> connect to socket /tmp/dbus-TTavTtFLD4: Verbindungsaufbau abgelehnt
>> D-Bus system daemon not running.
>>
>>> And after that, "hald" is not running anymore (but the helper apps
>>> are, as listed my last mail). Weird, isn't it?
>> Well, either a problem with D-Bus or a problem with HAL.
> 
> Probably, yes. It's just that I can't really verify what's wrong. I've
> D-BUS 1.0.1, D-BUS GLib bindings 0.72 and HAL 0.5.8.1 installed on my
> system (Lunar Linux, so none of the original config files - like
> /etc/dbus-1/system.d/hal.conf - were modified).
> 
> Now if I start D-BUS and HAL and try to mount something, I get this
> "... is not provided by any .service files" error message. After that,
> hald isn't running anymore. This is what happens as root. Now if I set
> up D-BUS to give normal users access to some HAL-related D-BUS
> services, like you suggested to Samuel in his bug report, I get exactly
> the same error.
> 
> I know the package versions are pretty much bleeding edge as Lunar
> isn't bound to fixed package release cycles, but nonetheless I'd love
> to be able to get some more debugging information out of
> Thunar/HAL/D-BUS to find a fix for this annoyance. After all, I
> remember that it worked before exo-mount was introduced.

HAL is probably crashing in the Mount method. Run hald with --daemon=no
--verbose=yes.

> - Jannis

Benedikt
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Re: [Thunar-dev] Mounting fails due to no available org.freedesktop.Hal services

2007-01-12 Thread Jannis Pohlmann
On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 22:40:10 +0100, Benedikt Meurer wrote:

> Jannis Pohlmann wrote:
> > But: Whenever I start thunar with a running hald (sorry, my last
> > mail contained a lot of hald-* processes, but not "hald" itself)
> > and try to mount one of the devices, I get this:
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ thunar
> > Thunar: Failed to connect to the D-BUS session bus: Failed to
> > connect to socket /tmp/dbus-TTavTtFLD4: Verbindungsaufbau abgelehnt
>
> D-Bus system daemon not running.
>
> > And after that, "hald" is not running anymore (but the helper apps
> > are, as listed my last mail). Weird, isn't it?
>
> Well, either a problem with D-Bus or a problem with HAL.

Probably, yes. It's just that I can't really verify what's wrong. I've
D-BUS 1.0.1, D-BUS GLib bindings 0.72 and HAL 0.5.8.1 installed on my
system (Lunar Linux, so none of the original config files - like
/etc/dbus-1/system.d/hal.conf - were modified).

Now if I start D-BUS and HAL and try to mount something, I get this
"... is not provided by any .service files" error message. After that,
hald isn't running anymore. This is what happens as root. Now if I set
up D-BUS to give normal users access to some HAL-related D-BUS
services, like you suggested to Samuel in his bug report, I get exactly
the same error.

I know the package versions are pretty much bleeding edge as Lunar
isn't bound to fixed package release cycles, but nonetheless I'd love
to be able to get some more debugging information out of
Thunar/HAL/D-BUS to find a fix for this annoyance. After all, I
remember that it worked before exo-mount was introduced.

- Jannis


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Re: [Thunar-dev] Mounting fails due to no available org.freedesktop.Hal services

2007-01-12 Thread Benedikt Meurer
Jannis Pohlmann wrote:
> But: Whenever I start thunar with a running hald (sorry, my last mail
> contained a lot of hald-* processes, but not "hald" itself) and try to
> mount one of the devices, I get this:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ thunar
> Thunar: Failed to connect to the D-BUS session bus: Failed to connect
> to socket /tmp/dbus-TTavTtFLD4: Verbindungsaufbau abgelehnt

D-Bus system daemon not running.

> And after that, "hald" is not running anymore (but the helper apps are,
> as listed my last mail). Weird, isn't it?

Well, either a problem with D-Bus or a problem with HAL.

> - Jannis

Benedikt
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Re: [Thunar-dev] Mounting fails due to no available org.freedesktop.Hal services

2007-01-12 Thread Jannis Pohlmann
On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 23:04:56 +0100, Jannis Pohlmann wrote:

> On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 18:42:10 +0100, Benedikt Meurer wrote:
>
> > Jannis Pohlmann wrote:
> > > Hey Benny,
> > >
> > > I just updated my exo and Thunar checkouts and installed them. But
> > > when I try to mount my USB disk, the following error message pops
> > > up:
> > >
> > >   "The name org.freedesktop.Hal was not provided by any .service
> > > files."
> > >
> > > I wouldn't wonder if my setup is b0rked to a certain degree, but I
> > > didn't touch any .service files. Any ideas what might be wrong?
> >
> > Do you have hald running? Because hald doesn't provide a .service
> > file indeed, it must be running.
>
> Yes:

But: Whenever I start thunar with a running hald (sorry, my last mail
contained a lot of hald-* processes, but not "hald" itself) and try to
mount one of the devices, I get this:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ thunar
Thunar: Failed to connect to the D-BUS session bus: Failed to connect
to socket /tmp/dbus-TTavTtFLD4: Verbindungsaufbau abgelehnt

And after that, "hald" is not running anymore (but the helper apps are,
as listed my last mail). Weird, isn't it?

- Jannis


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Re: [Thunar-dev] Mounting fails due to no available org.freedesktop.Hal services

2007-01-12 Thread Jannis Pohlmann
On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 18:42:10 +0100, Benedikt Meurer wrote:

> Jannis Pohlmann wrote:
> > Hey Benny,
> >
> > I just updated my exo and Thunar checkouts and installed them. But
> > when I try to mount my USB disk, the following error message pops
> > up:
> >
> >   "The name org.freedesktop.Hal was not provided by any .service
> > files."
> >
> > I wouldn't wonder if my setup is b0rked to a certain degree, but I
> > didn't touch any .service files. Any ideas what might be wrong?
>
> Do you have hald running? Because hald doesn't provide a .service file
> indeed, it must be running.

Yes:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ps ax|grep hal
 3221 ?S  0:00 hald-addon-acpi: listening on acpi kernel
  interface /proc/acpi/event
 18056 ?S  0:00 hald-addon-storage: polling /dev/sda
 15876 ?S  0:00 /usr/libexec/hald-addon-acpi
 24928 ?S  0:00 hald-addon-storage: polling /dev/sda
 20943 ?S  0:00 /usr/libexec/hald-addon-acpi
 20950 ?S  0:00 hald-addon-keyboard: listening
  on /dev/input/event0
 20962 ?S  0:00 hald-addon-storage: polling /dev/sda
 20965 ?S  0:00 hald-addon-storage: polling /dev/hdc
 21506 ?S  0:00 /usr/libexec/hald-addon-acpi
 21513 ?S  0:00 hald-addon-keyboard: listening
  on /dev/input/event0
 21525 ?S  0:00 hald-addon-storage: polling /dev/sda
 21528 ?S  0:00 hald-addon-storage: polling /dev/hdc

- Jannis


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Re: [Thunar-dev] Mounting fails due to no available org.freedesktop.Hal services

2007-01-12 Thread Benedikt Meurer
Jannis Pohlmann wrote:
> Hey Benny,
> 
> I just updated my exo and Thunar checkouts and installed them. But when
> I try to mount my USB disk, the following error message pops up:
> 
>   "The name org.freedesktop.Hal was not provided by any .service files."
> 
> I wouldn't wonder if my setup is b0rked to a certain degree, but I
> didn't touch any .service files. Any ideas what might be wrong?

Do you have hald running? Because hald doesn't provide a .service file
indeed, it must be running.

> Regards,
> Jannis

Benedikt
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[Thunar-dev] Mounting fails due to no available org.freedesktop.Hal services

2007-01-12 Thread Jannis Pohlmann
Hey Benny,

I just updated my exo and Thunar checkouts and installed them. But when
I try to mount my USB disk, the following error message pops up:

  "The name org.freedesktop.Hal was not provided by any .service files."

I wouldn't wonder if my setup is b0rked to a certain degree, but I
didn't touch any .service files. Any ideas what might be wrong?

Regards,
Jannis


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