[tw] over-ride (or modify title of) javascript alert?

2008-11-02 Thread roger

How do I make it so that the alert window which opens when leaving/
closing a TW with unsaved saved changes?  I'd prefer if the title in
the window read Confirm instead of [javascript application].
Similar to the way TiddlyVault and TiddlyTools are set up.

Also, I have Eric's ConfirmExitPlugin installed.  How can I make the
option buttons read Leave this page and Stay on this page instead
of OK and Cancel?

~Roger
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[tw] Re: over-ride (or modify title of) javascript alert?

2008-11-02 Thread FND

 How do I make it so that the alert window which opens when leaving/
 closing a TW with unsaved saved changes?

I'm afraid you cannot customize the standard confirmation dialog.
(That dialog is created using a simple function call, and that function 
  only takes a string argument, resulting in that message being 
displayed in the dialog.)

 I'd prefer if the title in the window read Confirm instead of
 [javascript application]. Similar to the way TiddlyVault and TiddlyTools
 are set up.

Are you sure it's TiddlyVault and TiddlyTools being different? I would 
guess any difference are attributable to another browser being used.


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[tw] Re: over-ride (or modify title of) javascript alert?

2008-11-02 Thread Eric Shulman



On Nov 2, 10:29 am, roger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 How do I make it so that the alert window which opens when leaving/
 closing a TW with unsaved saved changes?  I'd prefer if the title in
 the window read Confirm instead of [javascript application].
 Similar to the way TiddlyVault and TiddlyTools are set up.

 Also, I have Eric's ConfirmExitPlugin installed.  How can I make the
 option buttons read Leave this page and Stay on this page instead
 of OK and Cancel?

These messages are displayed using a standard browser-native function:
   confirm(message)
which displays an appliation-modal dialog box with the indicated
message text along with two buttons labeled OK and Cancel.
Unfortunately, while you can specify the message text to be displayed,
you cannot specify the text for the OK/Cancel buttons, nor the title
of the dialog itself.  Sorry.

-e
Eric Shulman
TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios


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[tw] Re: Using ASCIIsvg in TW

2008-11-02 Thread kilucas

David's made the following suggestion:


This is untested so no guarantees, but you can try this:  In
AsvgHA.js
(or ASCIIsvgHA.js) drawPics, replace

var sscr = picture.getAttribute(sscr);
  if ((sscr != null)  (sscr != )) {
  try {
  if (isIE) {
  parseShortScript(sscr);
  //names the SVG so it can identify
itself onclick
  picture.window.setname(picture.id);
  }
  } catch (e) {}
  }


with


var sscr = picture.getAttribute(sscr);
var src = picture.getAttribute(script);


  if ((sscr != null)  (sscr != )) {
  try {
  if (isIE) {
  parseShortScript(sscr);
  //names the SVG so it can identify
itself onclick
  picture.window.setname(picture.id);
  }
  } catch (e) {}
  } else  if ((src!=null)  (src != )) {
  try {
 if (isIE) {
  with (Math) eval(src);
  picture.window.setname(picture.id);
 }
  } catch(err) {alert(err+\n+src)}
  }

Kevin



On Oct 28, 12:18 pm, kilucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I posted some informatiuon about this in the ASCIIMath Google group
 where David Lippman and Peter Jipsen, who were both instrumental in
 producing the mathematical version of HTMLArea are posting. David got
 back to me to suggest there's a bug inASCIIsvgwhich is causing the
 problem.

 I've copied my posting and his reply here (my apologies if that breaks
 any form of etiquette) and will see if I can rectify the problem
 myself although I'm not that handy with code and this may defeat me.
 Maybe someone better skilled might know how to fix this without too
 much effort.

 Bram: Presumably it'd be good to incorporate any solution we find into
 your package.

 Here's my posting, then David's reply:

 Kevin
 I'm using ASCIIMathML andASCIIsvgwith HTMLArea in TiddlyWiki. The
 implementation I have 
 fromhttp://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=150646package_...
 invokes a window (called the Equation Grapher Control Panel) in which
 I can specifiy graph parameters to create SVG graphs. But theASCIIsvg
 home page suggests I might also be able to form my own drawings by
 embedding some material in web pages.

 By pasting examples similar those on theASCIIsvghome page into the
 raw html viewer of HTMLArea available via a toolbar button I've got
 my
 browser to recognise that an svg object is to be rendered (the right
 mouse menu is appropriate to SVG) but myASCIIsvgcode isn't
 generating a drawing.

 My latest simple example is the following which amounts to an entire
 Tiddlywiki tiddler:

 pStart text/pembed src=HTMLArea\Plugins\AsciiSvg\d.svg
 script=initPicture(-2,2,-2,2);axes();line([-2,-2],[2,2]); /p /

 pEnd text/p

 (The instructions on theASCIIsvghome page say that the script
 delimiters should be single quotes but the HTMLArea editor converts
 them to double quotes even when I manually change them back).

 When I display the resultant page I get an empty SVG area surrounded
 by my start and end text and sometimes get a dialog box saying only
 undefined though it doesn't make clear what is undefined.

 When I compare the html here with the html generated by the Equation
 Grapher Control Panel wiindow the latter uses an sscr attribute to
 specific the graph I think but I can't find out what the sscr element
 is. And in any case it doesn't seem to be part of theASCIIsvg
 vocabulary as far as I can tell.

 I tried the same material in an ASciencePad tiddler but had no
 further
 success there.

 So does anyone here know if I should be able to specify my own
 drawings in the TiddlyWiki/HTMLAea environment and if so how I'd
 speciify them so that they draw completely please?

 David:
 The sscr attribute is a short script that is the abbreviated format
 used by the Equation Grapher Control Panel.

 When I wrote theASCIIsvgplugin for HTMLArea, there were two files
 in
 addition toASCIIsvg.js:  AsvgHA.js (or ASCIIsvgHA.js) and
 ASCIIsvgAddon.js.  The former is used in the editor window itself;
 the
 latter is intended to be included in the output.

 Looking at it, it appears that I stripped the script attribute
 handling out of AsvgHA.js (in the drawPics function).  Not sure
 exactly why.  The handling is still in ASCIIsvgAddon.js, so it should
 be possible to add it in to AsvgHA.js.

 

 On 27 Oct, 18:17, kilucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



  I've made limited progress. My browser now recognmises that I'm trying
  to display an SVG picture but doesn't actually draw the picture I
  intend. Here's what I've done and what I'm 

[tw] Re: over-ride (or modify title of) javascript alert?

2008-11-02 Thread Eric Shulman

 ConfirmExitPlugin replaced SaveOnExitPlugin?

That's correct.

-e

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[tw] Re: Using ASCIIsvg in TW

2008-11-02 Thread kilucas

Here's what I found when I tried this.

I placed the following in a wyswiwyg tiddler within Bram Chen's
HTMLArea using the html view (not the standard editor view):

embed src=HTMLArea/plugins/AsciiSvg/d.svg script=border = 0
initPicture(-10,10)
axes()
stroke = 'red'
p = []
with (Math)
  for (t = 0; t  10.01; t += 0.05)
p[p.length] = [t*cos(PI*t), t*sin(PI*t)]
path(p) /

It's code from an example of a drawing at the ASCIISVG home page at
http://www1.chapman.edu/~jipsen/svg/asciisvg.html but modified as
follows:

1) When I save the original raw embed statement, the delimeiters for
the script are changed from single quotes to double quotes and this
throws errors when the script encounters the red attribute. So I
changed the script delimiters to double quotes and the delimiters
within the script itself to single quotes

2) The original example begins embed width=117 height=117
src=d.svg ... The HTMLArea editor strips out the width and height
elements - I don't know why. But I think they're being remembered
because the SVG output seems to be affected by them nonetheless as
mentioned below

3) The original example refers to d.svg in the wrong location for
Bram's HTMLArea and I corrected it.

The result was that I did indeed see the drawing when I switched out
of raw html mode and back to normal viewing within the editor.

Another oddity was that I'd initially used a version of the embed
statement that omitted the height and width statements and the drawing
had been truncated on the right. When I replaced the width and height
statements, the drawing appeared correctly even though html view in
the editor no longer showed the width and height statements.

However, the drawing only appears as an empty SVG area when I view the
tiddler oustide the editor. Hence I'm only halfway to the desired
solution.


If I place the same embed statement in a non-wysiwyg tiddler (so it's
never been touched by HTMLArea) I just see the embed statement when I
view the tiddler.


Overall I'm therefore left wondering:

1) How can I get the drawing displayed when viewing the tiddler? Is
there perhaps an equivalent place in my TW where I need to get the
right code to execute at view time instead of edit time?
2) Can I stop HTMLArea swapping the script delimeters to single
quotes?
3) can I stop HTMLArea removing thew width and height statements?
4) How would I invoke the same drawing from a non-wysiwyg tiddler.
(Maybe the answer to 1 above will help here).

I'll let you know if I learn more but if anyone has any insights that
might help further, please by all means let me know.

Thanks

Kevin

On Nov 2, 8:57 pm, kilucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 David's made the following suggestion:

 This is untested so no guarantees, but you can try this:  In
 AsvgHA.js
 (or ASCIIsvgHA.js) drawPics, replace

 var sscr = picture.getAttribute(sscr);
           if ((sscr != null)  (sscr != )) {
                   try {
                           if (isIE) {
                                   parseShortScript(sscr);
                                   //names the SVG so it can identify
 itself onclick
                                   picture.window.setname(picture.id);
                           }
                   } catch (e) {}
           }

 with

 var sscr = picture.getAttribute(sscr);
 var src = picture.getAttribute(script);

           if ((sscr != null)  (sscr != )) {
                   try {
                           if (isIE) {
                                   parseShortScript(sscr);
                                   //names the SVG so it can identify
 itself onclick
                                   picture.window.setname(picture.id);
                           }
                   } catch (e) {}
           } else  if ((src!=null)  (src != )) {
                           try {
                              if (isIE) {
                                   with (Math) eval(src);
                                   picture.window.setname(picture.id);
                              }
                           } catch(err) {alert(err+\n+src)}
                   }

 Kevin

 On Oct 28, 12:18 pm, kilucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



  I posted some informatiuon about this in the ASCIIMath Google group
  where David Lippman and Peter Jipsen, who were both instrumental in
  producing the mathematical version of HTMLArea are posting. David got
  back to me to suggest there's a bug inASCIIsvgwhich is causing the
  problem.

  I've copied my posting and his reply here (my apologies if that breaks
  any form of etiquette) and will see if I can rectify the problem
  myself although I'm not that handy with code and this may defeat me.
  Maybe someone better skilled might know how to fix this without too
  much effort.

  Bram: Presumably it'd be good to incorporate any solution we find into
  your package.

  Here's my posting, then David's reply:

  Kevin
  I'm using ASCIIMathML andASCIIsvgwith HTMLArea in TiddlyWiki. The
  implementation I have 
  

[tw] Re: Using ASCIIsvg in TW

2008-11-02 Thread kilucas

In a standard (non-wysiwyg tiddler) I get the same output as for a
wysiwyg tiddler when the tiddler is displayed - an empty SVCG pane -
if I surround the embed statement with html and /html which is
needed, I believe, to tell a standard tiddler to behave as a chunk of
html.

In both cases therefore the formost challenge seem to lie in getting
the drawing to draw on the SVG pane. As the drawing is defined by the
script I'm guessing the problem lies in getting the script executed
when a tiddler is displayed as against when it's edited in the
HTMLArea editor which I can now achieve with the modified scripts
above.

Kevin

On Nov 2, 9:19 pm, kilucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Here's what I found when I tried this.

 I placed the following in a wyswiwyg tiddler within Bram Chen's
 HTMLArea using the html view (not the standard editor view):

 embed src=HTMLArea/plugins/AsciiSvg/d.svg script=border = 0
 initPicture(-10,10)
 axes()
 stroke = 'red'
 p = []
 with (Math)
   for (t = 0; t  10.01; t += 0.05)
     p[p.length] = [t*cos(PI*t), t*sin(PI*t)]
 path(p) /

 It's code from an example of a drawing at the ASCIISVG home page 
 athttp://www1.chapman.edu/~jipsen/svg/asciisvg.htmlbut modified as
 follows:

 1) When I save the original raw embed statement, the delimeiters for
 the script are changed from single quotes to double quotes and this
 throws errors when the script encounters the red attribute. So I
 changed the script delimiters to double quotes and the delimiters
 within the script itself to single quotes

 2) The original example begins embed width=117 height=117
 src=d.svg ... The HTMLArea editor strips out the width and height
 elements - I don't know why. But I think they're being remembered
 because the SVG output seems to be affected by them nonetheless as
 mentioned below

 3) The original example refers to d.svg in the wrong location for
 Bram's HTMLArea and I corrected it.

 The result was that I did indeed see the drawing when I switched out
 of raw html mode and back to normal viewing within the editor.

 Another oddity was that I'd initially used a version of the embed
 statement that omitted the height and width statements and the drawing
 had been truncated on the right. When I replaced the width and height
 statements, the drawing appeared correctly even though html view in
 the editor no longer showed the width and height statements.

 However, the drawing only appears as an empty SVG area when I view the
 tiddler oustide the editor. Hence I'm only halfway to the desired
 solution.

 If I place the same embed statement in a non-wysiwyg tiddler (so it's
 never been touched by HTMLArea) I just see the embed statement when I
 view the tiddler.

 Overall I'm therefore left wondering:

 1) How can I get the drawing displayed when viewing the tiddler? Is
 there perhaps an equivalent place in my TW where I need to get the
 right code to execute at view time instead of edit time?
 2) Can I stop HTMLArea swapping the script delimeters to single
 quotes?
 3) can I stop HTMLArea removing thew width and height statements?
 4) How would I invoke the same drawing from a non-wysiwyg tiddler.
 (Maybe the answer to 1 above will help here).

 I'll let you know if I learn more but if anyone has any insights that
 might help further, please by all means let me know.

 Thanks

 Kevin

 On Nov 2, 8:57 pm, kilucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



  David's made the following suggestion:

  This is untested so no guarantees, but you can try this:  In
  AsvgHA.js
  (or ASCIIsvgHA.js) drawPics, replace

  var sscr = picture.getAttribute(sscr);
            if ((sscr != null)  (sscr != )) {
                    try {
                            if (isIE) {
                                    parseShortScript(sscr);
                                    //names the SVG so it can identify
  itself onclick
                                    picture.window.setname(picture.id);
                            }
                    } catch (e) {}
            }

  with

  var sscr = picture.getAttribute(sscr);
  var src = picture.getAttribute(script);

            if ((sscr != null)  (sscr != )) {
                    try {
                            if (isIE) {
                                    parseShortScript(sscr);
                                    //names the SVG so it can identify
  itself onclick
                                    picture.window.setname(picture.id);
                            }
                    } catch (e) {}
            } else  if ((src!=null)  (src != )) {
                            try {
                               if (isIE) {
                                    with (Math) eval(src);
                                    picture.window.setname(picture.id);
                               }
                            } catch(err) {alert(err+\n+src)}
                    }

  Kevin

  On Oct 28, 12:18 pm, kilucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   I posted some informatiuon about this in the ASCIIMath 

[tw] Re: TagCloudPlugin Q

2008-11-02 Thread Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/

bump!

On Oct 30, 10:06 am, Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/;
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,

 Is there a way to configure a tag cloud macro usingTagCloudPluginso
 that it shows one of the following:

 only those tags of 'x' that are also tagged with 'y'?

 or,

 all tags of 'x' except those tagged with y and z?

 I played with it a while and couldn't get it to do that.

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[tw] Re: Using ASCIIsvg in TW

2008-11-02 Thread kilucas

I've succeeded in getting drawings to draw correctly when a tiddler is
displayed.

Guessing that ASCIIsvgAddon.js handled display of the drawing when a
tiddler is viewed and knowing it contains a drawpics function that was
almost identical to that in AsvgHA.js, I modified that in the former
as follows:

I changed the following code in drawpics from ...


  var sscr = picture.getAttribute(sscr);
  if ((sscr != null)  (sscr != )) {
  try {
  parseShortScript(sscr);
  } catch (e) {}
  }

to ...

//Modified by K Lucas following a related suggestion by David Lippman
  var sscr = picture.getAttribute(sscr);
var src = picture.getAttribute(script);
  if ((sscr != null)  (sscr != )) {
  try {
  parseShortScript(sscr);
  } catch (e) {}
  } else  if ((src!=null)  (src != )) {
  try {
 if (isIE) {
  with (Math) eval(src);
//
picture.window.setname(picture.id);
 }
  } catch(err) {alert(err+\n+src)}
  }
//end of K Lucas modification

Now static drawings appear when tiddlers are viewed and whether or not
they are edited with the standard TW editor or the html view in
HTMLArea.

I'm getting some odd effects in this specific spiral drawing because
the drawing is truncated at the top and bottom in both the html view
within HTMLArea and when the drawing is viewed outside the editor,
regardless of whether the drawing was created in a wysiwyg tiddler or
a standard tiddler. This truncation remains even if I replace the
width and height settings (which I can currently only do reliably in a
non-wysiwyg tiddler because HTMLArea strips these out of the embed
statement).

I also get truncation on the right of the drawing when I first view it
in the wysiwyg view of the HTMLArea editor but not when I look at the
code in html view and then return to wysiwyg view.

But I've created a simpler drawing using the folling and this appears
to display correctly in all circumstances.

embed width=117 height=117 src=HTMLArea/plugins/AsciiSvg/d.svg
script='
initPicture(-2,2)
grid(1,1)
marker = arrow
stroke = red
line([0,0],[1,1])
'

I'm conscious that I haven't tested David's original suggestion fully
or my further implementation of it in ASCIIsvgAddon.js and don't
really know how to do this other than to exercise it through examples.
But this all seems to be a great step forward. Beyond that testing, my
outstanding issues are therefore:

1) Can I stop HTMLArea swapping the script delimeters to single
quotes?

2) Can I stop HTMLArea removing the width and height statements?

3) How can I get the spiral drawing displayed without top and bottom
truncation when viewing the tiddler?

4) how can I get the spiral drawing to display without truncation of
the right-hand side when first viewed within HTMLArea's wysiwyg view

5) Find out whether animated drawings will also work using these
modified .js files.


If anyone has any insights into 1- 4 above I'd be very interested to
hear your ideas. And I'll report back on item 5 when I've tried it.

Many thanks

Kevin


On Nov 2, 9:29 pm, kilucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In a standard (non-wysiwyg tiddler) I get the same output as for a
 wysiwyg tiddler when the tiddler is displayed - an empty SVCG pane -
 if I surround the embed statement with html and /html which is
 needed, I believe, to tell a standard tiddler to behave as a chunk of
 html.

 In both cases therefore the formost challenge seem to lie in getting
 the drawing to draw on the SVG pane. As the drawing is defined by the
 script I'm guessing the problem lies in getting the script executed
 when a tiddler is displayed as against when it's edited in the
 HTMLArea editor which I can now achieve with the modified scripts
 above.

 Kevin

 On Nov 2, 9:19 pm, kilucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



  Here's what I found when I tried this.

  I placed the following in a wyswiwyg tiddler within Bram Chen's
  HTMLArea using the html view (not the standard editor view):

  embed src=HTMLArea/plugins/AsciiSvg/d.svg script=border = 0
  initPicture(-10,10)
  axes()
  stroke = 'red'
  p = []
  with (Math)
    for (t = 0; t  10.01; t += 0.05)
      p[p.length] = [t*cos(PI*t), t*sin(PI*t)]
  path(p) /

  It's code from an example of a drawing at the ASCIISVG home page 
  athttp://www1.chapman.edu/~jipsen/svg/asciisvg.htmlbutmodified as
  follows:

  1) When I save the original raw embed statement, the delimeiters for
  the script are changed from single quotes to double quotes and this
  throws errors when the script encounters the red attribute. So I
  changed the script delimiters to double quotes and the delimiters
  within the script itself to single quotes

  2) The original example begins embed width=117 height=117
  src=d.svg ... The HTMLArea editor 

[tw] Re: Using ASCIIsvg in TW

2008-11-02 Thread kilucas

Just on the truncation of the spiral drawing ...

The top and bottom truncation is fixed if I specifiy the y-axis
minimum and maximum explicitly in initpicture(-10,10,-10,10) rather
than initpicture(-10,10). I don't know why the version of ASCIISVG
that I'm using needs this when the ASCIISVG home page does not.

I still don't understand the right-hand truncation. The drawing
initially appears in HTMLArea as a square with the origin offset to
the right because the x axis runs from -10 to only approximately 3.
The region with x from 3 to 10 is all missing. When I view the tiddler
in html mode and then revert to wysiwyg mode, the full x axis is shown
but on a drawing which is now wider than it is tall, the x-axis
spacing remaining the same as it was originally shown but the drawing
is wider to accomodate the x region from 3 to 10.

Yet, when the tiddler is viewed after editing, the drawing is square
and correctly formed again.

Ultimately I need the drawing correct in view mode and that's working.
But it'd be great to fix the editing mode which is, after all, meant
to be WYSIWYG.

Kevin

On Nov 2, 10:48 pm, kilucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 David

 I've made significant progress and can now view drawings with partial
 success when tiddlers are viewed. Here's the posting I addded to the
 TiddlyWiki group that provides the details of what I did alongside
 what does and doesn't work now. And, as ever, if you have any insights
 into the remaining challenges, it'd be great to hear your views.

 I've succeeded in getting drawings to draw correctly when a tiddler is
 displayed.

 Guessing that ASCIIsvgAddon.js handled display of the drawing when a
 tiddler is viewed and knowing it contains a drawpics function that was
 almost identical to that in AsvgHA.js, I modified that in the former
 as follows:

 I changed the following code in drawpics from ...

           var sscr = picture.getAttribute(sscr);
           if ((sscr != null)  (sscr != )) {
                   try {
                           parseShortScript(sscr);
                   } catch (e) {}
           }

 to ...

 //Modified by K Lucas following a related suggestion by David Lippman
           var sscr = picture.getAttribute(sscr);
 var src = picture.getAttribute(script);
           if ((sscr != null)  (sscr != )) {
                   try {
                           parseShortScript(sscr);
                   } catch (e) {}
           } else  if ((src!=null)  (src != )) {
                           try {
                              if (isIE) {
                                   with (Math) eval(src);
 //
 picture.window.setname(picture.id);
                              }
                           } catch(err) {alert(err+\n+src)}
                   }
 //end of K Lucas modification

 Now static drawings appear when tiddlers are viewed and whether or not
 they are edited with the standard TW editor or the html view in
 HTMLArea.

 I'm getting some odd effects in this specific spiral drawing because
 the drawing is truncated at the top and bottom in both the html view
 within HTMLArea and when the drawing is viewed outside the editor,
 regardless of whether the drawing was created in a wysiwyg tiddler or
 a standard tiddler. This truncation remains even if I replace the
 width and height settings (which I can currently only do reliably in a
 non-wysiwyg tiddler because HTMLArea strips these out of the embed
 statement).

 I also get truncation on the right of the drawing when I first view it
 in the wysiwyg view of the HTMLArea editor but not when I look at the
 code in html view and then return to wysiwyg view.

 But I've created a simpler drawing using the folling and this appears
 to display correctly in all circumstances.

 embed width=117 height=117 src=HTMLArea/plugins/AsciiSvg/d.svg
 script='
 initPicture(-2,2)
 grid(1,1)
 marker = arrow
 stroke = red
 line([0,0],[1,1])
 '

 I'm conscious that I haven't tested David's original suggestion fully
 or my further implementation of it in ASCIIsvgAddon.js and don't
 really know how to do this other than to exercise it through examples.
 But this all seems to be a great step forward. Beyond that testing, my
 outstanding issues are therefore:

 1) Can I stop HTMLArea swapping the script delimeters to single
 quotes?

 2) Can I stop HTMLArea removing the width and height statements?

 3) How can I get the spiral drawing displayed without top and bottom
 truncation when viewing the tiddler?

 4) how can I get the spiral drawing to display without truncation of
 the right-hand side when first viewed within HTMLArea's wysiwyg view

 5) Find out whether animated drawings will also work using these
 modified .js files.

 If anyone has any insights into 1- 4 above I'd be very interested to
 hear your ideas. And I'll report back on item 5 when I've tried it.

 Many thanks

 Kevin

 On Nov 2, 10:45 pm, kilucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



  I've succeeded in getting drawings to draw correctly when a tiddler is