[tw] Re: SaveEmptyTemplate

2008-12-21 Thread frikfrak

Thanks for the recommendation Okido!

On Dec 21, 3:32 pm, okido  wrote:
> Hi frikfrak,
>
> No experience with SaveEmptyTemplate but I use the ExportTiddlerPlugin
> were you can create a new TW based on tiddlers with certain tags, or
> manual selection etc.
> ExportTiddlersPlugin can be found here:http://www.tiddlytools.com/
>
> Goodluck Okido
>
> On 21 Dec, 21:17, frikfrak  wrote:
>
> > Hi,
>
> > I recently discovered TW, and am still a noob, so please be gentle.
> > How do I use SaveEmptyTemplate? I have made some mods and added some
> > content, and I want to start a new file with the mods but without the
> > content. I just don't understand how to get the empty template. Thanks!
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[tw] Re: SaveEmptyTemplate

2008-12-21 Thread frikfrak

Eric, thanks for the thorough and detailed response - you've provided
several useable solutions for me, and I'm going to do some
experimenting to see what works best for my needs. (Somehow I missed
chkSaveEmptyTemplate in Advanced Options.) I've been to your site, and
all I can say is WOW, what an incredible resource!

On Dec 21, 3:30 pm, Eric Shulman  wrote:
> > I recently discovered TW, and am still a noob, so please be gentle.
> > How do I use SaveEmptyTemplate? I have made some mods and added some
> > content, and I want to start a new file with the mods but without the
> > content. I just don't understand how to get the empty template. Thanks!
>
> When you say you "made some mods and added some content", I assume you
> mean you changed some of the default "shadow tiddler" definitions
> (like SiteTitle, SiteSubtitle, MainMenu, StyleSheet, etc.), and then
> created a few new tiddlers for your own content, and that what you
> want to do is to create a new document that includes the tiddlers that
> hold the modified definitions, but not the ones that hold your
> content.
>
> However, the chkSaveEmptyTemplate setting (see AdvancedOptions) causes
> TW to create a completely empty TW document (called empty.html) that
> contains *no tiddlers at all*, and thus it probably isn't what you are
> looking for.
>
> Of course, you can always simply copy the entire TW file (using your
> OS), and then open the copy, strip out the content and save it.  Then
> keep that file around as a 'starter' that you can copy at any time to
> create a new document.
>
> Alternatively, if you want a flexible, TiddlyWiki-based solution, try
> this plugin:
>    http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#SaveAsPlugin
>
> It allows you to create a new document from the current one, and can
> use tags to auto-select a subset of tiddlers (e.g., only tiddlers
> tagged with 'includeNew' or some other distinct tag).
>
> Also, if automatic tag matching is not sufficient, you can use this
> plugin:
>    http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#ExportTiddlersPlugin
> which provides a completely interactive "control panel" with a multi-
> select listbox so you can manually choose the tiddlers you want to
> write to the new file.
>
> Note: you can also use ExportTiddlers to write a "PureStore" file that
> selected tiddlers, but omits all the TW core programming.  PureStore
> files can be used as archives for saving old tiddlers, or as small
> 'transport files' for sharing a few tiddlers with others (e.g, sent as
> email attachments).
>
> Although PureStore files are not immediately viewable as a TW
> document, they can be directly imported into a running TW document
> because they contain a 100% TW-compatible 'tiddler store area'.
>
> enjoy,
> -e
> Eric Shulman
> TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
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[tw] Re: Main Menu: Adjusting Size on Select Text and Organization

2008-12-21 Thread wolfgang

Hi Jon,

> The wikiwords ("Articles","Projects", etc) are the ones that I want to
> be slightly larger than the subcatagories.

If you import Eric's StyleSheetShortcuts tiddler and add a link into
your shadowed StyleSheet tiddler, ie:

[[StylesheetShortcuts]]

you can add individual definitions into the MainMenu:

{{big{Articles}}}

http://www.tiddlytools.com/#StyleSheetShortcuts

> Also, I have put "yo" as a
> means of temporarily filling space. If you know how to add space there
> that would also be useful information. I am looking to have the
> general headings centered with the subcatagories to the right, as
> demonstrated below, imagining that the hyphens are not there:
>

Try the following html synonyms:

  or  
  or  

Regards,

W.


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[tw] Re: SaveEmptyTemplate

2008-12-21 Thread okido

Hi frikfrak,

No experience with SaveEmptyTemplate but I use the ExportTiddlerPlugin
were you can create a new TW based on tiddlers with certain tags, or
manual selection etc.
ExportTiddlersPlugin can be found here: http://www.tiddlytools.com/

Goodluck Okido

On 21 Dec, 21:17, frikfrak  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I recently discovered TW, and am still a noob, so please be gentle.
> How do I use SaveEmptyTemplate? I have made some mods and added some
> content, and I want to start a new file with the mods but without the
> content. I just don't understand how to get the empty template. Thanks!
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[tw] Re: SaveEmptyTemplate

2008-12-21 Thread Eric Shulman

> I recently discovered TW, and am still a noob, so please be gentle.
> How do I use SaveEmptyTemplate? I have made some mods and added some
> content, and I want to start a new file with the mods but without the
> content. I just don't understand how to get the empty template. Thanks!

When you say you "made some mods and added some content", I assume you
mean you changed some of the default "shadow tiddler" definitions
(like SiteTitle, SiteSubtitle, MainMenu, StyleSheet, etc.), and then
created a few new tiddlers for your own content, and that what you
want to do is to create a new document that includes the tiddlers that
hold the modified definitions, but not the ones that hold your
content.

However, the chkSaveEmptyTemplate setting (see AdvancedOptions) causes
TW to create a completely empty TW document (called empty.html) that
contains *no tiddlers at all*, and thus it probably isn't what you are
looking for.

Of course, you can always simply copy the entire TW file (using your
OS), and then open the copy, strip out the content and save it.  Then
keep that file around as a 'starter' that you can copy at any time to
create a new document.

Alternatively, if you want a flexible, TiddlyWiki-based solution, try
this plugin:
   http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#SaveAsPlugin

It allows you to create a new document from the current one, and can
use tags to auto-select a subset of tiddlers (e.g., only tiddlers
tagged with 'includeNew' or some other distinct tag).

Also, if automatic tag matching is not sufficient, you can use this
plugin:
   http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#ExportTiddlersPlugin
which provides a completely interactive "control panel" with a multi-
select listbox so you can manually choose the tiddlers you want to
write to the new file.

Note: you can also use ExportTiddlers to write a "PureStore" file that
selected tiddlers, but omits all the TW core programming.  PureStore
files can be used as archives for saving old tiddlers, or as small
'transport files' for sharing a few tiddlers with others (e.g, sent as
email attachments).

Although PureStore files are not immediately viewable as a TW
document, they can be directly imported into a running TW document
because they contain a 100% TW-compatible 'tiddler store area'.

enjoy,
-e
Eric Shulman
TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
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[tw] SaveEmptyTemplate

2008-12-21 Thread frikfrak

Hi,

I recently discovered TW, and am still a noob, so please be gentle.
How do I use SaveEmptyTemplate? I have made some mods and added some
content, and I want to start a new file with the mods but without the
content. I just don't understand how to get the empty template. Thanks!

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[tw] Re: FadingMessagesPlugin

2008-12-21 Thread Paul Downey (psd)

On Dec 21, 3:06 pm, "Russ Thomas"  wrote:
>
> I'm getting: Error: TypeError: config.extensions is undefined
>
> from both plugins.
>
> TW 2.4.1
> MPTW 2.5.2
> FF 3.0.4

Ah, my bad - I've been working with the latest TW core, which includes
this changeset:

http://trac.tiddlywiki.org/changeset/6903

so have added a workround to WikifiedMessagesPlugin:

http://trac.tiddlywiki.org/changeset/8307

and tried it with 2.4.1/MPTW on TiddlySpot:

http://fadingmessagesplugin.tiddlyspot.com/

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[tw] Re: FadingMessagesPlugin

2008-12-21 Thread Eric Shulman

> I'm getting: Error: TypeError: config.extensions is undefined
> from both plugins.
>
> TW 2.4.1

config.extensions is a NEW object that was only added recently, and
requires TW2.4.2, which just entered the "beta 1" pre-release testing
phase this past Friday.

To avoid this error, the "CoreVersion" slice value in the plugin
should be set to "2.4.2" instead of just "2.4"... this will block the
plugin from being loaded in any version prior to 2.4.2

See:
   http://www.TiddlyWiki.com/beta
   http://trac.tiddlywiki.org/ticket/735
   http://trac.tiddlywiki.org/changeset/6903

enjoy,
-e
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[tw] Re: How long will a tiddliwiki last?

2008-12-21 Thread Eric Shulman

> If you rely on plugins, they might not last forever and ever,
> depending on what innovations browsers come up with. Would that be
> correct to say, Eric? That would be one hiccup.

Are you talking about *brower* plugins (e.g., TiddlySnip,
GreaseMonkey, etc)?  Browser plugins are, of course, dependent upon
the specific browser being used, and can definitely break when that
browser is updated to a new version.  However, inasmuch as TW plugins
are just tiddlers containing javascript, they should continue work
within the document in which they are installed (assuming they worked
in the first place), as long as the brower continues to support
javascript.

> Also, the cookies
> thing has been overcome for the moment, but who knows what similar
> hiccups will come along.

Cookies are used to store TW *settings*.  While a loss of settings
would revert to the defaults, a change cookie-based in settings would
not actually prevent you from accessing the document content (though
it might not look the same), and you can always redefine those
settings, either with new cookies, or by assigning hard-coded values
via a systemConfig tiddler.

-e


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[tw] Re: FadingMessagesPlugin

2008-12-21 Thread Russ Thomas
Paul

I'm getting: Error: TypeError: config.extensions is undefined

from both plugins.

TW 2.4.1
MPTW 2.5.2
FF 3.0.4

2008/12/21 Paul Downey (psd) 

>
> Announcing the FadingMessagesPlugin:
>
>http://whatfettle.com/2008/07/FadingMessagesPlugin/
>
> This removes the need to close displayed messages, by making them
> automatically disappear after a short interval.
>
> The FadingMessagesPlugin depends on another new plugin, the
> WikifiedMessagesPlugin:
>
>http://whatfettle.com/2008/07/WikifiedMessagesPlugin/
>
> which enables displayed messages to contain wikified content.
>
> Enjoy!
> Paul (psd)
> --
> http://blog.whatfettle.com
> >
>

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[tw] Re: How long will a tiddliwiki last?

2008-12-21 Thread Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/

If you rely on plugins, they might not last forever and ever,
depending on what innovations browsers come up with. Would that be
correct to say, Eric? That would be one hiccup. Also, the cookies
thing has been overcome for the moment, but who knows what similar
hiccups will come along. Other than that, I'm counting on TW being
available for a long, long time, since I've put all my New Testament
notes on TW.

Dave
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[tw] Re: PasswordGeneratorPlugin?

2008-12-21 Thread balu

Hi query,

thanks for the hint. Unfortunately this isn't a solution for me
neither since I can't change all my existing passwords, too. BTW, what
about changing domain names? For the moment I will create a bunch of
passwords using an online generator so I always have a good one even
when I need it offline.

And writing a very simple PasswordGeneratorPlugin looks like a perfect
holiday project for me to finally start learning JavaScript. ;-)


On 19 Dez., 21:37, query  wrote:
> Balu,
>
> There was a plugin called GPAD earlier this year that generated
> passwords based on a passphrase and domain names.
>
> The plugin is here...http://pad.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> And a discussion of it's use is 
> here..http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki/browse_thread/thread/83f3d4...
>
> Since it cannot convert existing passwords I didn't try it, but you
> may find it useful.
>
> On Dec 18, 3:53 pm, balu  wrote:
>
> > Hi,
>
> > I really love TiddlyWiki and I have a password-encrypted one on my USB
> > stick to manage all my projects, todos, contacts and many little
> > notes. Up to now I store all my passwords in a KeePass database, but I
> > think it's more convenient to have them in my TW, too. The only thing
> > I will miss is the function to generate secure passwords. Is there a
> > plugin for TW to create passwords I didn't find?
>
> > Thanks, Balu
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[tw] FadingMessagesPlugin

2008-12-21 Thread Paul Downey (psd)

Announcing the FadingMessagesPlugin:

http://whatfettle.com/2008/07/FadingMessagesPlugin/

This removes the need to close displayed messages, by making them
automatically disappear after a short interval.

The FadingMessagesPlugin depends on another new plugin, the
WikifiedMessagesPlugin:

http://whatfettle.com/2008/07/WikifiedMessagesPlugin/

which enables displayed messages to contain wikified content.

Enjoy!
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[tw] Re: How long will a tiddliwiki last?

2008-12-21 Thread Eric Shulman

> I realise that HTML and Javascript are not going away any time soon.
> But, well, I have a long time-frame in mind, so I would be interested
> to know how durable a tiddliwiki can be expected to be. Any thoughts?

A TW file is plain-text: all your content, plus HTML, CSS, and
Javascript syntax surrounding it.

Fundamentally, each TW document is a complete system... all the
programming and content is incorporated into the same file; thus,
there is no separation of data and application and a matching version
of the 'TW runtime environment' will always be available.

Of course, this is all predicated on having a browser that is capable
of processing HTML, CSS, and Javascript... which is likely to be true
for *many, many* years.  Even so, as we well know, future versions of
any given browser *might* not be completely 100% backward-compatible
with existing HTML, CSS or Javascript code, but even then, the odds of
being able to render your content (even if it doesn't look quite
right) are still extremely high.

Lastly, even if there are no such things as web browsers in the
future, the underlying data in every TW file is, as noted above, plain-
text (with a few HTML entities, e.g., " mixed in)... and it's
completely open-source... no binary encodings, no secret formats.
Thus, it will *always* be possible to read a TW file with a simple
text editor or a parse it with a small, custom-written text processing
program that can extract just the content, leaving the HTML, CSS and
Javascript behind.

> On the same topic, are there simple ways to transfer content to other
> forms that might serve as an archive of the information, and survive
> technology changes longer, even though the flexibility of the wiki
> might be lost?

I doubt that there is file format that is likely to survive longer
than simple plain-text...

enjoy,
-e
Eric Shulman
TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios

> BiDi

P.S. You may want to change your GoogleGroups nickname... there a guy
here that goes by "BidiX" (the author of the very popular
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[tw] How long will a tiddliwiki last?

2008-12-21 Thread BiDi

Hi, I am wondering how long a tiddliwiki is likely to last.

That is, if I start to use a wiki now to collate information on a
topic, and I intend to use the wiki for many years to come, at some
point I am going to find that technology has passed me by and my wiki
doesn't work any more.

I realise that HTML and Javascript are not going away any time soon.
But, well, I have a long time-frame in mind, so I would be interested
to know how durable a tiddliwiki can be expected to be. Any thoughts?

On the same topic, are there simple ways to transfer content to other
forms that might serve as an archive of the information, and survive
technology changes longer, even though the flexibility of the wiki
might be lost?

Thanks

BiDi


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