Re: [tw] Re: Migrate this forum to a wiki (not a TW-based wiki)

2012-01-16 Thread Alex Hough
The issue of documentation is a recurring one.


A while back the idea of putting something up on kickstarter was suggested
-- by Jeremy I think

I've written something for Kickstarter, will post a link when they get back
to me

best wishes


Alex

On 14 January 2012 21:59, Arek arkadiusz.dymal...@gmail.com wrote:



 On Tuesday, January 10, 2012 6:20:06 AM UTC+1, Lyall wrote:

  I would hate to be a complete new user in tiddly world


 Yes, it hurts. As a noob in tiddly world I can say that the lack of
 well-structured, complete resource is really discouraging.
 There seems to be a huge gap in the spectrum of tiddly-related
 information. On one side there's quite a lot of basic introductions
 available (with giffmex on top of them).
 On the other hand there are myriads of granularised bits of useful
 information. However it's hard to find a resource helping to travel from
 one side to the other :)

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Re: [tw] Re: Business Thought [was: Important Message from Eric]

2012-01-16 Thread Alex Hough


 * I liked Alex's book idea; it is something I've discussed with Eric
 over the years, too. At the moment, I'm acutely conscious that I'm
 barely keeping up with the writing that I need to do around
 tiddlywiki's documentation, and think I might struggle with a big
 project like a book. I wonder if it would be possible to fund the
 writing of the book through Kickstarter?



I've have now set up a project on Kickstarter [1]
Its something I haven't done before and clearly writing 
the definitive guide is beyond my capabilities. 

I would like to invite those who are interested in learning more about TW, 
those interested in contributing to contact me.

I am hoping that there might be enough funds to start buying some time from 
volunteer writers, perhaps hiring a professional technical editor.

Any thoughts?



Alex

[1] http://www.kickstarter.com/profile/proposals/128043

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Re: [tw] Re: Business Thought [was: Important Message from Eric]

2012-01-16 Thread Jeremy Ruston
The link didn't work for me, even after registering.

This is a very exciting idea. I guess the big question is who is
actually going to be the principal writer or editor of the work. My
focus has got to be ongoing development work, and so it can't be me.
But I'm in a good position to provide help and support to the main
author, and of course can help track down definitive answers about the
code.

Cheers

Jeremy

On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 8:56 AM, Alex Hough r.a.ho...@gmail.com wrote:
 * I liked Alex's book idea; it is something I've discussed with Eric
 over the years, too. At the moment, I'm acutely conscious that I'm
 barely keeping up with the writing that I need to do around
 tiddlywiki's documentation, and think I might struggle with a big
 project like a book. I wonder if it would be possible to fund the
 writing of the book through Kickstarter?



 I've have now set up a project on Kickstarter [1]
 Its something I haven't done before and clearly writing the definitive guide
 is beyond my capabilities.

 I would like to invite those who are interested in learning more about TW,
 those interested in contributing to contact me.

 I am hoping that there might be enough funds to start buying some time from
 volunteer writers, perhaps hiring a professional technical editor.

 Any thoughts?



 Alex

 [1] http://www.kickstarter.com/profile/proposals/128043

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Re: [tw] Re: Business Thought [was: Important Message from Eric]

2012-01-16 Thread Alex Hough
Hi Jeremy,

The link doesn't work for me now ;) I'll investigate Kickstarter might
be examining the proposal. I submitted it in MTC style, but there might
some regulations they enforce.

WRT principal editor: all suggestions are welcome. It *is* a big question
... and an interesting one to the world of organization theorists as well
as TW fans.

I think the key point is that there has to be some payment involved so that
proper chunks of time from day jobs can allocated to the task.

I wonder if anyone interested in payed work might want to contact me off
list with some idea of the kind day rates they would require to lend their
full attention to the project.

There also could be a business model where contributors gain a share if the
IP and future sales.

Suggestions?

best wishes

ALex



On 16 January 2012 09:19, Jeremy Ruston jeremy.rus...@gmail.com wrote:

 The link didn't work for me, even after registering.

 This is a very exciting idea. I guess the big question is who is
 actually going to be the principal writer or editor of the work. My
 focus has got to be ongoing development work, and so it can't be me.
 But I'm in a good position to provide help and support to the main
 author, and of course can help track down definitive answers about the
 code.

 Cheers

 Jeremy

 On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 8:56 AM, Alex Hough r.a.ho...@gmail.com wrote:
  * I liked Alex's book idea; it is something I've discussed with Eric
  over the years, too. At the moment, I'm acutely conscious that I'm
  barely keeping up with the writing that I need to do around
  tiddlywiki's documentation, and think I might struggle with a big
  project like a book. I wonder if it would be possible to fund the
  writing of the book through Kickstarter?
 
 
 
  I've have now set up a project on Kickstarter [1]
  Its something I haven't done before and clearly writing
 the definitive guide
  is beyond my capabilities.
 
  I would like to invite those who are interested in learning more about
 TW,
  those interested in contributing to contact me.
 
  I am hoping that there might be enough funds to start buying some time
 from
  volunteer writers, perhaps hiring a professional technical editor.
 
  Any thoughts?
 
 
 
  Alex
 
  [1] http://www.kickstarter.com/profile/proposals/128043

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[tw] Re: Kindle Export

2012-01-16 Thread DanielF847
Ok, so I think the most effective way for my purposes is a mixture of
the snapshot plugin and a macro. The process will work something like
this:
--Obviously write Tiddlers
--Create a tiddler (for our purposes we'll call it Compilation 1)
--within the tiddler add excerpts and full articles using a macro.
(the macro would add some magic formatting to convert the titles of
each of the sections into anchors and each [[page]] link and WikiWord
into an internal link)
--use snapshot to export the data
--and a batch file to do some text processing and turn it into a .mobi
(or I'll leave it as html, I havent decided)

I wouldn't get everything I wanted, but I'd get pretty darn close. it
would give me anchor links for whatever I add to the compilation which
will work in both html and mobi

I did see somewhere that someone made a feature request for something
like this, but it did not seem recent, and I'm guessing that the
author isn't going to get on that any time soon

On Jan 14, 6:41 pm, DanielF847 danielf...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have the kindle dx. and I have been able to open the empty.html
 file, but nothing displays, I've enabled javascript and still can't
 get it to work, also the web browser is slow. I don't care about
 editing.

 Ideally, I would like to just export my TW before a test or something
 and then use the kindle to study.

 Just in case anyone else is looking, the kindles (not including the
 kindle 1) can access local html content.
 the document root can be found at:

 file:mnt/us/documents/

 there are 4 slashes, I assume, because it uses a fhs style file
 structure. so file: would be root.

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[tw] Re: Coretweak: 890 add conditional test to tiddler macro for my use case ?

2012-01-16 Thread Kriss
I solved my problem using a forEachTiddler-macro to check on the date
in the title: it definitely is not the clean solution I was looking
for, but it gives the results as needed...

tiddler ShowValue with:{{
 txt  =;
 var vandaag = new Date();

 for (var teller=0;teller90;teller++) {
  txt += forEachTiddler where
'tiddler.title.contains(\+vandaag.formatString(' DD mmm YY')+\)'
write '\- [[\+tiddler.title+\]]\\n\' +;
  vandaag.setDate(vandaag.getDate()-1);
  }
 result = txt;
}}

I am sure there must be a more simple solution to check whether a
title contains a certain string -- since fET can do it --  but I could
not find the correct syntax.
This workaround is surely not the fastest way, but it works ...   ;-)




On Jan 14, 11:08 am, Tobias Beer beertob...@googlemail.com wrote:
  Kriss had a question in 
  november:http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/121884...
  which seems to be similar (in some respect ??..)...

 Kriss' questions seems similar but it really isn't.

 In fact, his solution has what I would call design flaws which are:
 I would not identify tiddlers by their names. Instead, I would use
 tagging to retrieve lists sorted by date of tiddlers tagged, say
 'Journal', or 'Meeting'... not only, because I would like the liberty
 to prepend a few key words after a tiddler whose name starts with a
 date, e.g.:

 2011.11.04 Posted Question In Google Groups

 Of course, one could split those strings, but that might turn out
 difficult if the format contained named dates.

 Anyhow, to answer Kriss post here, as it hadn't been answered at his
 topic:
 groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/
 121884cf0cef5ebf

 Let's call his functional tiddler [[Diary]]:
 tiddler show with:{{
 var tid, out = '',
         fmt = 'DD mmm YY';
         oneday = 24*60*60*1000,
     d = t1 = new Date(),
     t0 = t1 - parseInt('$1')*oneday;
         while(d  t0){
                 d = d - oneday;
                 tid = new Date(d).formatString(fmt);
                 if(store.tiddlerExists(tid))
                         out += '*[[' + tid + ']]\n';
          }
     out;

 }}

 And then he could place something like this in another tiddler...
 My last 7 days:
 tiddler Diary with:7

 However, this doesn't check on any tags and you would have to put your
 meeting notes into your journal tiddlers, as you could (obviously)
 only have one tiddler per day, and it doesn't take care of any date
 before y2k, etc, etc...

 So, I suggest for a review like the one Kriss wants to do, you would
 either use the list macro or something 
 like...http://tobibeer.tiddlyspace.com/#Filtr

 tb

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[tw] I can't save with chrome, if I lose contact with internet, and then get it back again

2012-01-16 Thread Sparrisen987
I don't know why, but it's really frustrating. If I try to save the
page with chrome as html, my changes aren't saved either.

Any idea how to remedy this? It kills my soul to shut down tiddly and
see all I've written go to the digital graveyard.

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[tw] Re: I can't save with chrome, if I lose contact with internet, and then get it back again

2012-01-16 Thread Eric Shulman
 I don't know why, but it's really frustrating. If I try to save the
 page with chrome as html, my changes aren't saved either.
 Any idea how to remedy this? It kills my soul to shut down tiddly and
 see all I've written go to the digital graveyard.

Can you explain exactly how you are using TW?  The subject of your
message suggests that you are opening a TW document that is posted on
line (i.e., accessed via http://).  The description above suggests
that you are trying to use Chrome's native filesave handling (i.e,
as html) to save the document locally.

However, this is not how TW works.  The basic usage paradigm is that
you *first* download a copy of TW onto your local filesystem, and then
open the *local* copy and edit.  When you are satisfied with your
changes, you must use the TW sidebar command save changes to re-
write the TW file.  You *cannot* use the browser's filesave
command, as that does not have access to the current run-time data for
the tiddlers you've created/modified during the session.

If you *do* want to use and edit TW online, there are several
solutions available (tiddlyspot, tiddlyspace, giewiki, etc.).  These
solutions use server-side scripts, combined with TW plugins, that
allow you to edit/save tiddler changes directly to an online TW
document, without requiring any local file at all.

enjoy,
-e
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[tw] Automatically save changes when the browser window is closed

2012-01-16 Thread Andy Green
Are there plugins for TiddlyWiki that can automatically save changes as 
soon as the browser window is closed?

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[tw] Re: Kindle Export

2012-01-16 Thread Tobias Beer
Well, as you noticed, that author was indeed me... ;-)

http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/5898c8eb4c72cdb7

And you're right, I could perhaps get you closer to your goal.

Although, for now... I am not much familiar with .mobi, but it looks
like creating one from html should be straight forward.

While I can't remember if Snapshot plugin can do that, it might be
better to have each tiddler exported in the desired sequence as files
named sequentially. To use jquery and create links to these indexed
files seems more straight forward than to create those anchors. I
remember that the process was quite tough.

I don't know how good your coding skills are, or your German... but
the code that provided for the mentioned flat file...

http://therapie-sport.de/index2.html

...can be found here...

http://therapie-sport.de/#Export

In the case of. mobi it seems the right thing to strip all page
elements that are not tiddlers, e.g. sidebars, even headers.

tb

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[tw] Re: Kindle Export

2012-01-16 Thread Tobias Beer
To be able to look at...
http://therapie-sport.de/#Export
you will need to download that wiki.

tb

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[tw] Re: Automatically save changes when the browser window is closed

2012-01-16 Thread Eric Shulman
On Jan 16, 11:40 am, Andy Green jar...@gmail.com wrote:
 Are there plugins for TiddlyWiki that can automatically save changes as
 soon as the browser window is closed?

http://www.tiddlytools.com/#ConfirmExitPlugin

enjoy,
-e
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