[tw] Re: Markdown plugin

2012-02-11 Thread sewpafly
That would be awesome to support the pandoc extensions.  I didn't
write the markdown implementation though, it's using showdown.  If you
could find a javascript markdown parser that implements the pandoc
extensions I would love to use it, but I haven't been able to find one.

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Re: [tw] Re: Replace Tiddler Subtitle with History Forward/Back buttons.

2012-02-11 Thread Liam and Holly Erickson
Thanks for your reply.  I do want the history buttons in each tiddler under
the title so it looks like the ViewTemplate is where we're heading.  I'm
guessing that I have to add <><> somewhere in this shadow
tiddler.  Can you please walk me through this.  I'm also anticipating that
the buttons will be the same color as the removed subtitle was, but to make
them noticeable I'd like them to be the same color as any other link (if
possible).

On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 6:44 AM, Måns  wrote:

> Hi Liam
>
> >  I've worked out a few things like hiding the tiddler subtitle by
> > setting it to 'display: none' on the stylsheet, and I've got the
> > HistoryPlugin working and changed the buttons to say < > Forward>>.  But I can't seem to put it all together so that the
> > history buttons occupy the subtitle space (With the default subtitle
> > gone).
> >
> > I've tried finding where the subtitle is generated so I can insert the
> > buttons, but I can't find this.
>
> When you say "subtitle" do you mean the SiteSubtitle or subtitles on
> every tiddler?
>
> You'll find the SiteSubtitle tiddler in the Shadow tiddlers tab in the
> menu to the right...
>
> Replace what's in the textarea - and *not* the title of the tiddler...
>
> If you want to have the historyplugin back and forward buttons in
> *every* tiddler's subtitle and not just in the Site header's subtitle,
> you'll have to consult the ViewTemplate tiddler (also a shadow
> tiddler)...
>
> Cheers Måns Mårtensson
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[tw] Use of multiple templates

2012-02-11 Thread Poul
It's nothing new that giewiki supports alternative edittemplate and
viewtemplate attributes to be defined for specific tiddlers. Prior to
the 1.15.8 release, there wasn't however a nice way to specify which,
making it effectively a developer-only feature. The new release adds a
generic field editing facility (available only to admins and page
owners) that lets you set these attributes through the standard UI. I
realize that this is only a step on the way; having defined an
alternative template, you would naturally want to easily instantiate
tiddlers based on it.

The primary reason I write is however to float a different idea that
came up in the process. The way I have implemented the field editor is
as separate pseudo-tiddler, in order to allow it to be opened through
a tiddler link of the form "fields:TiddlerName", and it occurred to me
that it might be a useful feature if you could apply any template to
any tiddler through a link pattern like templatename:TiddlerName. A
use case might be to give different people access to the same tiddlers
through different templates. But then again, this could be totally
redundant, if there are better ways to do the same thing - what do you
think..?

:-) Poul
http://giewiki.appspot.com

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[tw] Re: Replace Tiddler Subtitle with History Forward/Back buttons.

2012-02-11 Thread Måns
Hi Liam

>  I've worked out a few things like hiding the tiddler subtitle by
> setting it to 'display: none' on the stylsheet, and I've got the
> HistoryPlugin working and changed the buttons to say < Forward>>.  But I can't seem to put it all together so that the
> history buttons occupy the subtitle space (With the default subtitle
> gone).
>
> I've tried finding where the subtitle is generated so I can insert the
> buttons, but I can't find this.

When you say "subtitle" do you mean the SiteSubtitle or subtitles on
every tiddler?

You'll find the SiteSubtitle tiddler in the Shadow tiddlers tab in the
menu to the right...

Replace what's in the textarea - and *not* the title of the tiddler...

If you want to have the historyplugin back and forward buttons in
*every* tiddler's subtitle and not just in the Site header's subtitle,
you'll have to consult the ViewTemplate tiddler (also a shadow
tiddler)...

Cheers Måns Mårtensson

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[tw] Replace Tiddler Subtitle with History Forward/Back buttons.

2012-02-11 Thread Liam and Holly
Hi,
 I've worked out a few things like hiding the tiddler subtitle by
setting it to 'display: none' on the stylsheet, and I've got the
HistoryPlugin working and changed the buttons to say <>.  But I can't seem to put it all together so that the
history buttons occupy the subtitle space (With the default subtitle
gone).

I've tried finding where the subtitle is generated so I can insert the
buttons, but I can't find this.  I've also tried altering my
stylesheet to insert the buttons instead of 'display: none', but this
didn't work either.  I don't actually know anything about code so I'm
just having a stab in the dark.  Please answer this message in the
most simplest of terms because I'm very green at this... Cheers!

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[tw] Re: Slices with names in non-latin letters?

2012-02-11 Thread PMario
On Feb 10, 10:31 pm, Yakov  wrote:
> ... (not sure what does the "hashmap" term
> means here) So at first glance it seems that it's possible to have
> slices with any symbols.. Let me know if I miss something.
In this case it's just a "lookup table" [2] to have fast access to a
tiddler, based on it's title.
see: https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/tiddlywiki/blob/master/js/TiddlyWiki.js#L34

[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hashmap

-m

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[tw] Re: tiddlyspot or tiddlyspace

2012-02-11 Thread HansBKK
On Saturday, February 11, 2012 4:05:40 PM UTC+7, Idris.Dragon wrote:
>
> I am new to TW, and have been setting up a TW in tiddlyspot.
>
> I have been using FF 3.6 as suggested, but am frustrated with FF continual 
> reminders to update, and not being able to use some FF add-ons (Ad-lock for 
> example). To resolve this tried the suggested fix of moving to tiddlyspace.
>

I haven't used any of the server-side stuff, so can't help there, but note 
that I **only** use my portable FF 3.6 for those applications that require 
it, not for my regular browsing - do you need Ad-lock for Tiddlywiki?

Note also that you can turn off the update reminders under *Tools* >> *
Options* >>*Advanced* >> *Update* 

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Re: [tw] Re: Math without plug-in

2012-02-11 Thread Jeremy Ruston
> I understand the possible problems (even just corrupting data is a
> possible one), but have no idea of criteria to be used.

The criteria will evolve no doubt. The point is that the core plugin
library shouldn't just become a dumping ground of every plugin plugins
from over the years, it will need to be properly curated, so that end
users trust it.

> Well, let's imagine that I have a TW5 with 9 tiddlers. How many html
> files would be "baked" from the wiki?

If we're baking a complete static, JavaScript-free site, there would
be 9 HTML files generated, all linking to each other.

> Could a visitor navigate the
> baked content like me in my TW (just have the same interface without
> an option to edit), or he'll see html files that contain certain
> tiddlers (defined during baking) and which are linked in a way,
> specially defined during baking? How a prettylink will behave, if the
> linked tiddler is not among baked ones?

In the browser it would look like using single page mode plugin; as
the user clicks on tiddler links the browser will be navigating
between separate HTML files.

If the linked tiddler isn't in the baked ones, the user would see a
404 error. The idea of baking a site would generally be to bake the
whole thing so that it can be placed on a static web server. The
motivation, of course, is that static web servers never crash.

Besides baking to individual HTML files, it will also be possible to
bake a read-only TiddlyWiki file. Such a thing could also be placed on
a static web server, but would require the user to have JavaScript
enabled to browse it. Then the user would get the classic, rich TW
experience.

These two approaches can be combined. I could keep my tiddlers on a
private instance of TiddlyWiki5 running on my computer, and then
periodically publish a subset of them to, say, Amazon S3, as both a
bunch of individual static HTML files and a big TiddlyWiki HTML file
containing all the published tiddlers. JavaScript redirects could be
used to direct users with JavaScript from the static HTML pages to the
same place within the TiddlyWiki file.

Best wishes

Jeremy


>
>
> Hans, thanks for your answers, I'll read them carefully and try the
> things out a bit later.
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Re: [tw] Markdown plugin

2012-02-11 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Great stuff. It's really good to see how a wikifier can be adapted for
TW in just a few lines of code.

A couple of years ago I used Showdown in the first alpha for
TiddlyWiki5: http://tiddlywiki.com/tiddlywiki5.old/, making some
changes so that tiddler links work.

Best wishes

Jeremy

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 9:40 PM, sewpafly  wrote:
> I actually took a minute and got Markdown working as a stand alone
> formatter.
>
> If you're interested, it requires 2 tiddlers:
> http://showdown.tiddlyspace.com/#ShowDown.js
> http://sewpafly.tiddlyspace.com/#Markdown
>
> Then you mark a tiddler with a tag of MarkdownFormat and it appears to
> work... (at least for me)
>
> I'd love to get some feedback on if any one else finds this useful or
> finds any problems with it.
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[tw] tiddlyspot or tiddlyspace

2012-02-11 Thread Idris.Dragon
I am new to TW, and have been setting up a TW in tiddlyspot.

I have been using FF 3.6 as suggested, but am frustrated with FF continual 
reminders to update, and not being able to use some FF add-ons (Ad-lock for 
example). To resolve this tried the suggested fix of moving to tiddlyspace.

However, my TW shows very differently in t.space than in t.spot. I use some 
html and div statements to position pictures; in t.space these are 
duplicated.

So questions are: is T.Space different from T.Spot (my first "feel" of 
T.Space was that it is more technical (and complicated) than T.Spot.

Picking up from the last topic, which was relevant to this, I am still not 
sure how to clear the TW that is not working in T.Space.

Any help would be appreciated, as I am very much in the learning phase with 
this.


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