[tw] Re: table formatting to separate columns

[Eric Shulman]

On Sep 9, 2:19 am, vworp  wrote:
> I'm looking for a way of formatting two tables to stand side by side with a 
> gap between them.
> Something like
> |column 1|column 2| empty space  |column a|column b|

You can use inline CSS syntax around the first table to make it "float
left" and give it some desired right padding, like this:

@@float:left;padding-right:5em;
|this|is|table|one|
|row|two|
|row|three|
|row|four|
|row|five|
|row|six|
@@
|this|is|table|two|
|tabletwo row|two|
|tabletwo row|three|

Note that the tables do not have to have be the same height.  If the
1st table is taller than the 2nd table, then any content following the
2nd table will appear under the 2nd table, but *next to* the 1st
table.  If you want to ensure that the content is displayed below
*both* tables, then you will need to add:
   @@display:block;clear:both;@@
following the 2nd table.  This forces all subsequent content to be
placed after the floating table instead of next to it.

enjoy,
-e
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[tw] Can I save a story without closing it?

[dol can]

sometimes, the content of one story is big, or if I did too much changes, I 
want to save it right now, and then continue my work in the save position,
I mean the cursor will be in the same position, just like text editor: If I 
clicked "Save...", nothing happened except the content in the disk updated.
but I can't find such kind fo plugins, anyone please help me, I really want 
to replace office/texteditor with tiddlywiki

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[tw] Re: Announcement: TiddlyWiki 2.6.6 Beta 1

[Mark S.]

Thanks Eric.

Maybe it wasn't supposed to fix this problem, but I still can't directly 
import from TiddlyTools.com

Thanks!
Mark

On Sunday, September 9, 2012 2:23:43 PM UTC-8, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> On Sep 9, 3:02 pm, "Mark S."  wrote: 
> > Where do we find TiddlyFox? Just been through 486 extensions, and the 
> > closest I got was "TidyFox". 
>
> TiddlyFox is new, and is currently available here: 
>
>
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/raw/master/tiddlyfox/extension/tiddlyfox.xpi
>  
>
> -e 
>

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[tw] Re: Inline Editing of tables

[Yakov]

Vincent,

thank you so much! This is indeed a much-and-long-needed plugin. I tested a 
bit in Android, it even works there in both AndTidWiki and FireFox 15!

Couple of notes:

* there's an inconvenient behavior of editable (because of "editable" class 
or chkTEditorAllTableEditable) tables without a given caption. Browsers are 
separated in the following two groups: Opera, FireFox (including FF for 
Android), IE create a "nonpresistent" caption "Table 1" etc ("Table 2", if 
there are two such tables) which is just displayed with the "E" button but 
which is not stored (if, for instance, chkTEditorAllTableEditable is 
changed to false, such caption dissapear); while Chrome and Safari (and 
AndTidWiki) don't create such caption and don't create the "E" button as 
well. It would be more convenient if in such case each browser creates an 
empty caption (or a caption with " " content which is not visible).

* may be it's not consistent mentioning this as you already discuss copying 
and pasting colomns, but a useful (and probably not difficult to implement) 
feature would be shifting colomns left and right (such buttons can be added 
besides those "insert colomn left/right" in the same menu). This is 
especially useful in tables created for comparison of things.

* in Android, there are some problems with row/colomn menus:
** once a (say, colomn) menu appears, I can't make it disappear, only 
substitute it with the menu of another colomn (would be nice to make it 
disappear by tapping somewhere outside the table)
** there's a bug with row menus in AndTidWiki, it behaves in the following 
way: tiddler content:

|table 1|c
|editable|k
|h-cell1|h-cell2||h
|c11|c12+||
|c21|c22||

when entering the edit mode, a menu of (~nonexisting) row (effectively of 
the line after the last row) appears without me tapping anywhere; clicking 
the "add row below" button adds a "row" outside the talbe, with a blank 
line of space between it and the table, if such space line was present, and 
adds a row after the last row of the table one otherwise; clicking "add row 
above" creates a row after the last one in any case; "delete row" button 
deletes the line after the table if it is present, or does nothing 
otherwise.

It's really nice that each time I open TW google group, there's something 
new and sometimes incredibly useful, or at least interesting questions to 
answer.. Thanks again,

Best regards,
Yakov.

воскресенье, 9 сентября 2012 г., 14:30:34 UTC+4 пользователь Vincent Yeh 
написал:
>
> Ton,
>
> Thanks a lot. The TabEditPlugin did give me a good idea about how to do.
>
> TableEditor v1.3.4
>
> minimized version: http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor--MIN
> full version: http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor
>
> The main change is *transclusion support*: it is *now possible to edit a 
> transcluded table loaded with <> or <> macros*.
>
> Examples:
>
>1. http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor--Example--TabsMacro
>2. http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor--Example--TiddlerMacro
>
> Things work fine with ONE transclusion macro - one <> macro 
> or one <> macro - in ONE tiddler. *More than one transclusion 
> macros in the same tiddler will confuse the TableEditor*. See 
> http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor--Example--IssueWithTransclusionfor
>  details. 
>
> Vincent
>

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[tw] Re: Announcement: TiddlyWiki 2.6.6 Beta 1

[Eric Shulman]

On Sep 9, 3:02 pm, "Mark S."  wrote:
> Where do we find TiddlyFox? Just been through 486 extensions, and the
> closest I got was "TidyFox".

TiddlyFox is new, and is currently available here:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/raw/master/tiddlyfox/extension/tiddlyfox.xpi

-e

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[tw] Re: Announcement: TiddlyWiki 2.6.6 Beta 1

[Mark S.]

Where do we find TiddlyFox? Just been through 486 extensions, and the 
closest I got was "TidyFox".

Thanks!
Mark

On Sunday, September 9, 2012 11:53:42 AM UTC-8, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> On Sep 9, 9:49 am, Shango  wrote: 
> > I downloaded the new TiddlyWiki and tried to import my old one.  When I 
> > browse and select my old TiddlyWiki, I get this error message: "Error: A 
> > script from "file://" was denied UniversalFileRead privileges." 
>
> That error is most likely due to the recent update to FireFox 15.  As 
> of FF15, the browser's PrivilegeManager functions are no longer 
> allowed, so reading from local files will fail. 
>
> The current workaround is to either: 
>A) install TiddlyFox browser-extension 
>B) use an older version of FireFox 
>
> enjoy, 
> -e 
> Eric Shulman 
> TiddlyWiki "Classic" Lead Developer 
> TiddlyWiki Community Support 
>

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[tw] Re: Announcement: TiddlyWiki 2.6.6 Beta 1

[Eric Shulman]

On Sep 9, 9:49 am, Shango  wrote:
> I downloaded the new TiddlyWiki and tried to import my old one.  When I
> browse and select my old TiddlyWiki, I get this error message: "Error: A
> script from "file://" was denied UniversalFileRead privileges."

That error is most likely due to the recent update to FireFox 15.  As
of FF15, the browser's PrivilegeManager functions are no longer
allowed, so reading from local files will fail.

The current workaround is to either:
   A) install TiddlyFox browser-extension
   B) use an older version of FireFox

enjoy,
-e
Eric Shulman
TiddlyWiki "Classic" Lead Developer
TiddlyWiki Community Support

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[tw] Re: Announcement: TiddlyWiki 2.6.6 Beta 1

[Mark S.]

I couldn't retrieve the tiddler list from my current local file using 
import routine. Message in import was:

  Error retrieving tiddlers from url, please ensure this url exists and is 
CORS  enabled

But of course, the file is local. I used the Browse button to find the URL, 
though the files are actually in the same directory.

Twice I was asked if I wanted to allow the unsafe JS, and of course both 
times I said "Allow".

I don't want to import all my tiddlers by hand.

Instead I just imported your import plugin and then used it to import all 
tiddlers. 

Which is something I don't understand. Why does your import plugin work, 
but the "official" import tool doesn't?

Haven't thrashed it yet, but not getting immediate errors.

This is FF 15.

Mark



On Tuesday, August 28, 2012 7:10:49 AM UTC-8, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> Greetings All! 
>
> I'm pleased to announce that TiddlyWiki v2.6.6 has been advanced from 
> ALPHA to BETA status, and is now available for download and testing 
> from: 
>http://tiddlywiki.com/beta 
>
> This BETA build is identical to the ALPHA build posted last month, and 
> is merely the next step on the way towards full release.  Please 
> download the BETA build and then migrate your document content (by 
> importing into a new TW266 empty.html) to confirm that no significant 
> problems arise.  If nothing major is reported by the TW community over 
> the next few weeks, you can expect TW266 to "go gold" sometime around 
> mid-September. 
>
> The next update after TW266 will be TW270 ALPHA, which will hopefully 
> include some fixes and/or workarounds to the various file I/O (saving/ 
> loading) problems that have been caused by changes in browser 
> technology.  If all goes well, I expect to post TW270A sometime in 
> early to mid October (depending, of course, on how well the 
> development/debugging process goes). 
>
> enjoy, 
> -e 
> Eric Shulman 
> TiddlyWiki "Classic" Lead Developer 
> TiddlyWiki Community Support 
>

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[tw] Re: Announcement: TiddlyWiki 2.6.6 Beta 1

[Shango]

I downloaded the new TiddlyWiki and tried to import my old one.  When I 
browse and select my old TiddlyWiki, I get this error message: "Error: A 
script from "file://" was denied UniversalFileRead privileges."

There is an Open button so I go ahead and click that and it says, "Opening 
the workspace" but it doesn't seem to be doing anything.  I waited quite a 
while and nothing happens.  I chose a small TiddlyWiki file to import in 
case it was the big one I was trying to import.  

Can anyone help?  Thanks.  

On Tuesday, August 28, 2012 10:10:49 AM UTC-5, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> Greetings All! 
>
> I'm pleased to announce that TiddlyWiki v2.6.6 has been advanced from 
> ALPHA to BETA status, and is now available for download and testing 
> from: 
>http://tiddlywiki.com/beta 
>
> This BETA build is identical to the ALPHA build posted last month, and 
> is merely the next step on the way towards full release.  Please 
> download the BETA build and then migrate your document content (by 
> importing into a new TW266 empty.html) to confirm that no significant 
> problems arise.  If nothing major is reported by the TW community over 
> the next few weeks, you can expect TW266 to "go gold" sometime around 
> mid-September. 
>
> The next update after TW266 will be TW270 ALPHA, which will hopefully 
> include some fixes and/or workarounds to the various file I/O (saving/ 
> loading) problems that have been caused by changes in browser 
> technology.  If all goes well, I expect to post TW270A sometime in 
> early to mid October (depending, of course, on how well the 
> development/debugging process goes). 
>
> enjoy, 
> -e 
> Eric Shulman 
> TiddlyWiki "Classic" Lead Developer 
> TiddlyWiki Community Support 
>

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[tw] table formatting to separate columns

[vworp]

I'm looking for a way of formatting two tables to stand side by side with a gap 
between them.
Something like
|column 1|column 2| empty space  |column a|column b|

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[tw] Re: Inline Editing of tables

[TonG]

Hi Vincent,

You're the man. Excellent.
The ease with which you can edit tables is so great that the
precondition of one transclusion (<> or <>
macro) per tiddler is minor.
Anyway, in case you use the TableEditor in combination with the
TabEditPlugin you can use more <> macros in a tiddler and
edit them!
In case of more <> macros per tiddler you have to open
the transcluded tiddlers by hand. A minor issue if you can edit tables
so easy!

Thanks a lot.

Ton

On Sep 9, 12:30 pm, Vincent Yeh  wrote:
> Ton,
>
> Thanks a lot. The TabEditPlugin did give me a good idea about how to do.
>
> TableEditor v1.3.4
>
>     minimized version:http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor--MIN
>     full version:http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor
>
> The main change is *transclusion support*: it is *now possible to edit a
> transcluded table loaded with <> or <> macros*.
>
> Examples:
>
>    1.http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor--Example--TabsMacro
>    2.http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor--Example--TiddlerMacro
>
> Things work fine with ONE transclusion macro - one <> macro or
> one <> macro - in ONE tiddler. *More than one transclusion macros
> in the same tiddler will confuse the TableEditor*. 
> Seehttp://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor--Example--IssueWithTransc...
> for details.
>
> Vincent
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, September 8, 2012 9:26:36 PM UTC+8, TonG wrote:
>
> > Hi Vincent,
>
> > Yes, Version 1.3.3 solves my problem with TiddlerBarsPlugin and
> > (partly) the problems with the tabs macro: the 'E' is shown but you
> > cannot Edit the contents as you already stated (tab transclusion).
> > As a workaround I installed the old but still working TabEditPlugin
> > from Saq Imtiaz [1]
> > May be it contains ideas you can use.
> > See MTC with TableEditor v1.3.3 and TabEditPlugin:
> > MTC_TableEditor_tabs.html
> >https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/MTC_TableEditor_tabs.html
>
> > Cheers,
>
> > Ton
>
> > [1]http://tiddlywiki.squize.org/#TabEditPlugin
>
> > On Sep 8, 9:31 am, Vincent Yeh  wrote:
> > > wolfgang,
>
> > > I tried in a clean TW file with only two plugins: EditSectionPlugin and
> > > TableEditor v1.3.3, no such jumps are happening! Maybe I fixed it
> > somehow
> > > along the way without knowing it?
>
> > > However, the jummping happens if TiddlersBarPlugin is included. I don't
> > > know about other plugins, you can play with this filehttps://
> > dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Public/CleanTest-with-EditSectionPlugi...and
> > > see.
>
> > > Vincent
>
> > > On Monday, August 27, 2012 9:22:39 PM UTC+8, wolfgang wrote:
>
> > > > HI Vincent,
>
> > > > > I am guessing your =A means 'copy the whole column A to this
> > column',
> > > > but this syntax is not supported in the current TableCalculator. It
> > seems
> > > > possible to support such a syntax though...I am not sure yet...
>
> > > > No, just wanted a first row which shows the letter for each column at
> > the
> > > > top, and a first column showing the numbering of rows - just as in
> > > > spreadsheets  and which would be auto updated when a row or column is
> > added
> > > > or deleted.
>
> > > > >  I've figured a way to work with the UndoPlugin without adding the
> > > > 'done' button to the toolbar in view mode.
>
> > > > That's great!
>
> > > > But what still is disrupting the workflow are the 'jump-ups' with a
> > > >>> refresh of long table tiddlers after each row/column added/deleted.
> > Though
> > > >>> gladly this doesn't happen with every cell edited, but for example
> > whenever
> > > >>> cells are joined too (ie: after entering a '~' in a cell).
>
> > > >>> Upon insertion/deletion of rows/columns, or joining cells by '~' and
> > > >> '>', the TableEditor calls the story.refreshTiddler() to let the
> > formatters
> > > >> do their jobs. The 'jump-ups' is probably caused somewhere in that
> > > >> function. Unfortunately this does not happen in all the browsers I
> > tested
> > > >> here (with your large table and Eric's UndoPlugin 0.2.1):
> > Chrome/Ubuntu
> > > >> 12.04, FF 14.0.1/Ubuntu 12.04, FF14.0.1/Win7, Chrome/win7, IE9/Win7,
> > > >> Safari/Win7. I guess the TableEditor is interfering with some of the
> > > >> plugins you are using and I am not. If you can find it then I can try
> > to
> > > >> fix it.
>
> > > > Thanks for the suggestion. Indeed, it must be some plugins
> > interfering.
> > > > Actually the same jumps happens in my TW with EditSectionPlugin on
> > saves.
> > > > Already thought too bad, because in this case the possible option to
> > use it
> > > > with TableEditor for editing cell formatting didn't looked that good
> > > > anymore. However, at TiddlyTools these jumps on saves with
> > > > EditSectionPlugin do not happen there.
> > > > TiddlersBarPlugin and OpenTopPlugin were the first coming to mind, but
> > > > disabling these didn't solve it. Will keep looking for the offending.
>
> > > > Cheers

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[tw] Re: Inline Editing of tables

[Vincent Yeh]

Ton,

Thanks a lot. The TabEditPlugin did give me a good idea about how to do.

TableEditor v1.3.4

minimized version: http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor--MIN
full version: http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor

The main change is *transclusion support*: it is *now possible to edit a 
transcluded table loaded with <> or <> macros*.

Examples:

   1. http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor--Example--TabsMacro
   2. http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor--Example--TiddlerMacro
   
Things work fine with ONE transclusion macro - one <> macro or 
one <> macro - in ONE tiddler. *More than one transclusion macros 
in the same tiddler will confuse the TableEditor*. See 
http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor--Example--IssueWithTransclusion 
for details. 

Vincent

On Saturday, September 8, 2012 9:26:36 PM UTC+8, TonG wrote:
>
> Hi Vincent, 
>
> Yes, Version 1.3.3 solves my problem with TiddlerBarsPlugin and 
> (partly) the problems with the tabs macro: the 'E' is shown but you 
> cannot Edit the contents as you already stated (tab transclusion). 
> As a workaround I installed the old but still working TabEditPlugin 
> from Saq Imtiaz [1] 
> May be it contains ideas you can use. 
> See MTC with TableEditor v1.3.3 and TabEditPlugin: 
> MTC_TableEditor_tabs.html 
> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/MTC_TableEditor_tabs.html 
>
> Cheers, 
>
> Ton 
>
> [1] http://tiddlywiki.squize.org/#TabEditPlugin 
>
> On Sep 8, 9:31 am, Vincent Yeh  wrote: 
> > wolfgang, 
> > 
> > I tried in a clean TW file with only two plugins: EditSectionPlugin and 
> > TableEditor v1.3.3, no such jumps are happening! Maybe I fixed it 
> somehow 
> > along the way without knowing it? 
> > 
> > However, the jummping happens if TiddlersBarPlugin is included. I don't 
> > know about other plugins, you can play with this filehttps://
> dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Public/CleanTest-with-EditSectionPlugi...and 
> > see. 
> > 
> > Vincent 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Monday, August 27, 2012 9:22:39 PM UTC+8, wolfgang wrote: 
> > 
> > > HI Vincent, 
> > 
> > > > I am guessing your =A means 'copy the whole column A to this 
> column', 
> > > but this syntax is not supported in the current TableCalculator. It 
> seems 
> > > possible to support such a syntax though...I am not sure yet... 
> > 
> > > No, just wanted a first row which shows the letter for each column at 
> the 
> > > top, and a first column showing the numbering of rows - just as in 
> > > spreadsheets  and which would be auto updated when a row or column is 
> added 
> > > or deleted. 
> > 
> > > >  I've figured a way to work with the UndoPlugin without adding the 
> > > 'done' button to the toolbar in view mode. 
> > 
> > > That's great! 
> > 
> > > But what still is disrupting the workflow are the 'jump-ups' with a 
> > >>> refresh of long table tiddlers after each row/column added/deleted. 
> Though 
> > >>> gladly this doesn't happen with every cell edited, but for example 
> whenever 
> > >>> cells are joined too (ie: after entering a '~' in a cell). 
> > 
> > >>> Upon insertion/deletion of rows/columns, or joining cells by '~' and 
> > >> '>', the TableEditor calls the story.refreshTiddler() to let the 
> formatters 
> > >> do their jobs. The 'jump-ups' is probably caused somewhere in that 
> > >> function. Unfortunately this does not happen in all the browsers I 
> tested 
> > >> here (with your large table and Eric's UndoPlugin 0.2.1): 
> Chrome/Ubuntu 
> > >> 12.04, FF 14.0.1/Ubuntu 12.04, FF14.0.1/Win7, Chrome/win7, IE9/Win7, 
> > >> Safari/Win7. I guess the TableEditor is interfering with some of the 
> > >> plugins you are using and I am not. If you can find it then I can try 
> to 
> > >> fix it. 
> > 
> > > Thanks for the suggestion. Indeed, it must be some plugins 
> interfering. 
> > > Actually the same jumps happens in my TW with EditSectionPlugin on 
> saves. 
> > > Already thought too bad, because in this case the possible option to 
> use it 
> > > with TableEditor for editing cell formatting didn't looked that good 
> > > anymore. However, at TiddlyTools these jumps on saves with 
> > > EditSectionPlugin do not happen there. 
> > > TiddlersBarPlugin and OpenTopPlugin were the first coming to mind, but 
> > > disabling these didn't solve it. Will keep looking for the offending. 
> > 
> > > Cheers 
>

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