[tw] Re: Inline Editing of tables

2012-10-31 Thread Vincent Yeh 
Yakov,

Thanks a lot for the feedback. Currently I do not have time to work on 
these plugins so you will need to wait a while for the next upgrade. Here 
are a few quick replies I can make at this moment.

On Thursday, November 1, 2012 7:04:47 AM UTC+8, Yakov wrote:
>
> Hello Vincent,
>
> impressive work! Unfortunately, can't get the new pair TWted + TWtable (in 
> both Opera and FireFox, Win 7 x64; checked cookie-options, they are 
> enabled).
>

Both Opera 12.02 and FireFox 16.02 work in my Win7 x64 (running in 
VirtualBox 4.1.22 r80657 over Ubuntu 12.04) with TWtable+TWted, so I am 
guessing there might be a plugin conflict in your system. Could you try to 
verify this?
 

>
> Some notes:
>
> * as you can see, current hiding+escaping (***/) adds an unnecessary list 
> item in the end of tiddlers -- this can be handled by adding a line break 
> at the end of a tiddler
>
> Thanks! I didn't know about this. And I also noticed that TWtcalc.min is 
not hiding all its codes, which is due to the use of percentage symbol (%) 
in the recently modified COUNT() function. Maybe will switch to another 
symbol... 
 

> * the Requires slice in the TWted.min has the value of TWtable, which can 
> cause problems for those who are attentive enough (when I noticed this, I 
> checked TWted and TWtable as well, but this didn't bring success)
>
I see. That was my mistake! Guess I should change it to TWtable.min... or 
just remove it and show a warning message if TWtable (or TWtable.min) is 
not installed (because people can choose to install either one)...
 

>
> * the plugin(s) change the style of tables which are editable (thick 
> border and larger font for caption) which is not a desirable behavior by 
> default (correct me if I'm wrong, but I haven't found any options to change 
> this)
>
The larger caption font was for my poor eyes, and you are right it should 
not be the default behavior. Will change it back in the next release.
The thicker borders are due to additional wrappers (needed for scrolling). 
I had noticed that and put it in my ToDo list but with a lower priority. 
Will come to that sooner or later.
 

>
> And some notes which are regarding TableEditor (1.3.12), as I'm not sure 
> how the things are with the two plugins as I can't edit via them:
>
> * would be useful to be able to edit "non-existing cells": like in the 
> table
>
> |h-cell1|h-cell2|h
> |c11|c12|
> |c21|
>
> (for instance, I've a large tables comparing different software which are 
> filled only partially).
>
> This makes sense. I will put it in my ToDo list (with a priority higher 
than the thicker border thing). However, I have stopped TableEditor so 
further development will go to TWtable+TWted combo. We shall fix the first 
issue before other things.
 

> * tables in sliders bahave quite weirdly (see the attached screenshot, the 
> "*" button is the button of the slider, transclusion from another tiddler 
> is below it):
> ** the extra border (the div element with the tedTbody class) is stretched
> ** instead of C and E buttons (see above the slider), H button is present
>
> I didn't know about sliders so tables in there are not properly prepared. 
This will be added in the near future.
 

> Soon, I'll be doing some experimental work and I'm going to try 
> TableEditor to write experimental data, so I'll probably provide some 
> details regarding the workflow.
>
> That is great! I'd very glad to have input from this aspect. Thanks in 
advance!
 

> Best regards,
> Yakov.
>
> пятница, 26 октября 2012 г., 5:36:58 UTC+4 пользователь Vincent Yeh 
> написал:
>>
>>
>>
>> TWtable v1.4.2-1
>>>
>>>- (min) http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TWtable.min
>>>- (regular) http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TWtable
>>>   - Bug fixes for working with MathJaxPlugin
>>>   - Hijacks SnapShotPlugin's go() function to, upon taking a 
>>>   snapshot,
>>>  - hide buttons (edit buttons and the save a snapshot button), 
>>>  and
>>>  - replace the defaultFilename with tiddler title(mmdd).html.
>>>   
>>>
>> It was only for my own use to change the defaultFilename and to hide the 
>> save 
>> a snapshot button when taking a snapshot. Figured that it should not be 
>> the default behavior of TWtable so removed the codes. Still it hides the 
>> edit buttons when taking a snapshot with SnapShotPlugin. 
>>
>> Vincnet
>>
>

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[tw] Re: Inline Editing of tables

2012-10-31 Thread Yakov 
Hello Vincent,

impressive work! Unfortunately, can't get the new pair TWted + TWtable (in 
both Opera and FireFox, Win 7 x64; checked cookie-options, they are 
enabled).

Some notes:

* as you can see, current hiding+escaping (***/) adds an unnecessary list 
item in the end of tiddlers -- this can be handled by adding a line break 
at the end of a tiddler

* the Requires slice in the TWted.min has the value of TWtable, which can 
cause problems for those who are attentive enough (when I noticed this, I 
checked TWted and TWtable as well, but this didn't bring success) 

* the plugin(s) change the style of tables which are editable (thick border 
and larger font for caption) which is not a desirable behavior by default 
(correct me if I'm wrong, but I haven't found any options to change this)

And some notes which are regarding TableEditor (1.3.12), as I'm not sure 
how the things are with the two plugins as I can't edit via them:

* would be useful to be able to edit "non-existing cells": like in the table

|h-cell1|h-cell2|h
|c11|c12|
|c21|

(for instance, I've a large tables comparing different software which are 
filled only partially).

* tables in sliders bahave quite weirdly (see the attached screenshot, the 
"*" button is the button of the slider, transclusion from another tiddler 
is below it):
** the extra border (the div element with the tedTbody class) is stretched
** instead of C and E buttons (see above the slider), H button is present

Soon, I'll be doing some experimental work and I'm going to try TableEditor 
to write experimental data, so I'll probably provide some details regarding 
the workflow.

Best regards,
Yakov.

пятница, 26 октября 2012 г., 5:36:58 UTC+4 пользователь Vincent Yeh написал:
>
>
>
> TWtable v1.4.2-1
>>
>>- (min) http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TWtable.min
>>- (regular) http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TWtable
>>   - Bug fixes for working with MathJaxPlugin
>>   - Hijacks SnapShotPlugin's go() function to, upon taking a 
>>   snapshot,
>>  - hide buttons (edit buttons and the save a snapshot button), 
>>  and
>>  - replace the defaultFilename with tiddler title(mmdd).html.
>>   
>>
> It was only for my own use to change the defaultFilename and to hide the save 
> a snapshot button when taking a snapshot. Figured that it should not be 
> the default behavior of TWtable so removed the codes. Still it hides the 
> edit buttons when taking a snapshot with SnapShotPlugin. 
>
> Vincnet
>

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[tw] Re: don't understand datatiddlerplugin

2012-10-31 Thread Eric Shulman 
On Oct 31, 12:46 pm, RV  wrote:
> Well the part about the examples is actually the problem. I got the plugin
> from this site:http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/
>
> And what I typed is more or less literally the example on how to "Set the
> value of the given data field of the tiddler to the value. When the value is
> undefined the field is removed."

Note in the summary for DataTiddlerPlugin, it says:
   ...accessed and modified through named fields (in JavaScript
code)

The examples that follow are Javascript... not macros.  They are
intended to be used in the context of a forEachTiddler macro, or when
writing plugins or inline scripts (using my InlineJavascriptPlugin).
Something like this:


   var t=store.getTiddler('NameOfTiddler');
   t.setData(field,value);


OR, using the alternative "DataTiddler" methods (see DataTiddlerPlugin
documentation):


   DataTiddler.setData('NameOfTiddler',field,value)


In any case, this may all be moot if you decide to use my alternative
non-plugin native TWCore template method for defining and accessing
custom fields.

enjoy,
-e
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[tw] Re: don't understand datatiddlerplugin

2012-10-31 Thread Eric Shulman 
> However, I would like to make a list of al tiddlers with a certain tag and
> their expiry date. For now I used foreachtiddlerplugin to generate a list
> of the tiddlers and their modified date, which is a substitute for their
> expiry date. Yet, I prefer to use an expiry date and would like to attach
> this to the tiddler using the datatiddlerplugin.

You can add custom fields to tiddlers without using any plugins at
all.

First, you need a way to enter the field

To do this, you modify the [[EditTemplate]] to define a text input for
your custom field:
  
You can place the input field anywhere you like in the template.  In
this case, I put it following the normal multi-line text input, like
this:
---









---
Note: custom field names must be ALL LOWER CASE for the TWCore to
properly access them.

NEXT... you will probably want to be able to view the expiration date
when you *display* the tiddler.  To do this, modify the
[[ViewTemplate]] by adding this line:
   
As with the EditTemplate change, you can place the field display
anywhere you like in the template.  In this case, I put it in the
subtitle, following the normal modified/created date displays, and
included a bit of text surrounding it, like this:
   (expires on: )
--



,  ( )
(expires on: )






--

Finally, and most important for your use-case... you will want to
access this field from within the <> macro that you
are invoking.  Within the fET context, you can reference the custom
fields of the current tiddler object by writing something like:
   tiddler.fields['expirationdate']

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-e
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[tw] Re: don't understand datatiddlerplugin

2012-10-31 Thread RV 
Well the part about the examples is actually the problem. I got the plugin 
from this site:
http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/

And what I typed is more or less literally the example on how to "Set the 
value of the given data field of the tiddler to the value. When the value is
undefined the field is removed."



Op woensdag 31 oktober 2012 20:20:29 UTC+1 schreef whatever het volgende:
>
> Hi! 
> If I'm not mistaken, you need the FormTiddlerPlugin to enter data. 
> Also, the reason you're getting the error is that t.setData isn't a 
> macro. Look at the site where you got the DataTiddlerPlugin for 
> examples. 
>
> w 
>
> On Oct 31, 4:15 pm, RV  wrote: 
> > Hi guys, 
> > 
> > I am setting up some sort of documentmanagementsystem using tiddlywiki 
> and 
> > I am quite satisfied with what I have this far. 
> > However, I would like to make a list of al tiddlers with a certain tag 
> and 
> > their expiry date. For now I used foreachtiddlerplugin to generate a 
> list 
> > of the tiddlers and their modified date, which is a substitute for their 
> > expiry date. Yet, I prefer to use an expiry date and would like to 
> attach 
> > this to the tiddler using the datatiddlerplugin. 
> > 
> > Probably I am a fool, but i don't understand how to do this. 
> > 
> > For a given tiddler (test)I tried this: 
> > 
> > < > 
> > 
> > 
> > But then I get the message: Error in macro 
> > <> 
> > 
> > What am I doing wrong? The plugin appears to be loaded correctly. 
> > 
> > Cheers, 
> > Rens 
>

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[tw] Re: don't understand datatiddlerplugin

2012-10-31 Thread whatever 
Hi!
If I'm not mistaken, you need the FormTiddlerPlugin to enter data.
Also, the reason you're getting the error is that t.setData isn't a
macro. Look at the site where you got the DataTiddlerPlugin for
examples.

w

On Oct 31, 4:15 pm, RV  wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I am setting up some sort of documentmanagementsystem using tiddlywiki and
> I am quite satisfied with what I have this far.
> However, I would like to make a list of al tiddlers with a certain tag and
> their expiry date. For now I used foreachtiddlerplugin to generate a list
> of the tiddlers and their modified date, which is a substitute for their
> expiry date. Yet, I prefer to use an expiry date and would like to attach
> this to the tiddler using the datatiddlerplugin.
>
> Probably I am a fool, but i don't understand how to do this.
>
> For a given tiddler (test)I tried this:
>
> <
>
>
> But then I get the message: Error in macro
> <>
>
> What am I doing wrong? The plugin appears to be loaded correctly.
>
> Cheers,
> Rens

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[tw] Re: Unable to save changes

2012-10-31 Thread Will 
I'm getting this exact same error with chrome!

obviously the "tiddlyfox" extension won't help here.. any one have a 
workaround for chrome?

thanks

---Will

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Re: [tw] css float and tiddlers

2012-10-31 Thread jcp 

On 10/30/2012 09:47 AM, Edward VanWinkle wrote:

Those two tiddlers are small enough that the effect is noticeable. The
first tiddler is fine, then once the second is opened, it shoots
underneath the floating elements. (Normally they would both stay
together, of course.)


It seems the "tagClear" class is causing this. It contains a "clear: 
both;" instruction which makes the tiddlers appear below the floating 
elements. Remove the line




from you ViewTemplate. That should make the tiddlers appear one below 
the other, with no gap in between.


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[tw] don't understand datatiddlerplugin

2012-10-31 Thread RV 
Hi guys,

I am setting up some sort of documentmanagementsystem using tiddlywiki and 
I am quite satisfied with what I have this far.
However, I would like to make a list of al tiddlers with a certain tag and 
their expiry date. For now I used foreachtiddlerplugin to generate a list 
of the tiddlers and their modified date, which is a substitute for their 
expiry date. Yet, I prefer to use an expiry date and would like to attach 
this to the tiddler using the datatiddlerplugin.

Probably I am a fool, but i don't understand how to do this.

For a given tiddler (test)I tried this:

<>

But then I get the message: Error in macro 
<>

What am I doing wrong? The plugin appears to be loaded correctly.

Cheers,
Rens

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Re: [tw] Re: HELP! Firefox conflicts and losing new edits.

2012-10-31 Thread Naamah 
Thank you to you both!  I got the *text *saved, at least.  I'm going to
look into installing an earlier version on my flash drive presently.

Grazie mille,

-- Naamah

On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 3:49 AM, PMario  wrote:

> Hi Naamah,
>
> I did a short test with an empty.html  TW file with FF 16.0.1.
>
> you'll need some keyboard comands an a plain text editor (not word).
> Notepad should work.
>
> * Open the texteditor.
>
> * If you commit all your open tiddlers, ([done] button) you can _right
> click_ anywhere inside the TW document
>
> * The dialog should have an option "View page source code", which
> shows the whole TW source code. (I do have a german installation, so
> your text may be different)
>
> * with  "mark all"
> *  copy into clipboard
> * select the opened notepad
> *  paste
>
> Save the file as "backup.txt"
> rename the file to "backup.html"
> and open it with the browser.
>
> With my PC stetup, it worked ...
>
> all the best
> mario
>
>
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[tw] Re: HELP! Firefox conflicts and losing new edits.

2012-10-31 Thread PMario 
Hi Naamah,

I did a short test with an empty.html  TW file with FF 16.0.1.

you'll need some keyboard comands an a plain text editor (not word).
Notepad should work.

* Open the texteditor.

* If you commit all your open tiddlers, ([done] button) you can _right
click_ anywhere inside the TW document

* The dialog should have an option "View page source code", which
shows the whole TW source code. (I do have a german installation, so
your text may be different)

* with  "mark all"
*  copy into clipboard
* select the opened notepad
*  paste

Save the file as "backup.txt"
rename the file to "backup.html"
and open it with the browser.

With my PC stetup, it worked ...

all the best
mario



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[tw] Re: HELP! Firefox conflicts and losing new edits.

2012-10-31 Thread TonG 
Hi Naamah,

I don't know if there is a better option, but this works:
Tiddlytools has a bookmarklet "Save current storeArea contents to clipboard" 
(search for bookmarklet).
Drag the bookmarklet to your bookmarks.
With your TW open, click the bookmarklet and follow the instructions.
Then at least you can have all your tiddlers as plain text in a text editor.
 Use an "old" (v3.6.x) portable version of Firefox to circumvent the 
security/saving problems with new versions (especially v 15 and up).

Good luck,

Ton


On Wednesday, October 31, 2012 6:16:18 AM UTC+1, Naamah wrote:
>
> So, after a long time letting it languish, I come back to a TW I'd 
> been working on, and I put about six hours' worth of work on it before 
> realizing that it wasn't creating backups, and I couldn't save. 
>
> So now I have this file open with six hours' worth of work on it that 
> I really really don't want to lose, and no way to save it. 
>
> I found the discussion about modifying the user.js file, and to the 
> extent that I understood what it was saying (I am not sure I did, this 
> is far from my forte) I think I actually did that, but it does say 
> that I have to restart Firefox to get the preferences thing to work. 
>
> If I restart Firefox, I'll lose my work. 
>
> Needless to say, I am absolutely livid. 
>
> I'm using Firefox 16.0.1 on a Windows 7 computer. 
>
> Please advise.  I've done the best thing I can think of to do, which 
> is take a (massive) screencap of every edit I've committed, but dear 
> god, it'll be just as much work restoring it from there as it was 
> putting it in in the first place. 
>
> Keep in mind I am smart, but I know f-all about computers, 
> programming, and the like (which is why I liked TW in the first 
> place).  Please try to make things incredibly simple. 
>

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[tw] Re: FileDropPlugin and FF15.0.1

2012-10-31 Thread julien23 
Hi Mark

Thank you for answering

explain what you mean by "doesn't work"
>
When I drop dummy.jpg in my TW it does not create a new tiddler 
[[dummy.jpg]]but replace the TW by the image in the browser's tab.
.. the  same as you experienced with brand new installs or personalities.

Julien


Le mercredi 31 octobre 2012 03:52:58 UTC+1, Mark S. a écrit :
>
> If I create a new personality in FF, then FDP doesn't work at all. Any 
> image dropped on the TW will display the image in a separate tab and no 
> tiddler is created. It would be nice to know what the "magic" settings are 
> that are grandfathered on upgrades but not on brand new installs or 
> personalities.
>
> Mark
>
> On Tuesday, October 30, 2012 6:43:37 PM UTC-8, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>>
>> FDP can be configured in different ways, so you might need to explain 
>> what you mean by "doesn't work" and also if you are using it on a "new" 
>> Firefox installation or an old one. Apparently if you upgraded from say 
>> FF14 to FF15,  things are not broken as badly as if you put FF15 on a new 
>> machine.
>>
>> On my setup, with a pre-existing FF upgraded to 15.0.1 , FDP is only 
>> slightly broken. I can drag an image file onto the TW, and it makes a new 
>> tiddler. However, the image associated with the tiddler no longer displays 
>> automatically. 
>>
>> That is, if I dragged c:\temp\dummy.jpg onto TW, I get the tiddler that 
>> includes
>>
>>   [img[dummy.jpg]]
>>
>> But "dummy.jpg" no longer displays. 
>>
>> I have to fix the the long path like this: 
>>
>>   file://c:/temp/dummy.jpg
>>
>> below 
>>
>>   !file
>>
>> in the attachment tiddler. Then it works.
>>
>> If I drag a text document onto the TW, a new tiddler is made and the text 
>> is inserted as before.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, October 26, 2012 11:07:32 AM UTC-8, julien23 wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> Sorry to ask again but I can't find the answer anywhere and 
>>> FileDropPlugin is one of my most usefull plugin...
>>>
>>> Can someone please tell whether FileDropPlugin does or does not workwith 
>>> FF15 ?
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>>
>>> Julien
>>>
>>> Le mercredi 10 octobre 2012 09:57:08 UTC+2, julien23 a écrit :

 Hi all

 missing word and question ... sorry

 is FileDropPlugin *broken* under FF15.0.1 ?
>

 my configuration : 

- Win7 x64
- FF 15.0.1
- TW 2.6.2
- FileDropPlugin 2.1.4
- TiddlyFox 1.0alpha3
- TiddlySnip 1.21-cbr beta

 Thanks

 Julien




 On Monday, October 8, 2012 10:14:47 AM UTC+2, julien23 wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> It looks like I can't drop anymore under FF15.0.1 (+ TiddlyFox 
> 1.0alpha3)
>
> Is FileDropPlugin ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Julien
>


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