[tw] Re: [TW5] How to disable a plugin?

2014-03-11 Thread Stephan Hradek
I guess you're using node.js. Remove the codemirror entry from 
tiddlywiki.info

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Embed Chart.js into a TW5 file (pretty much like D3.js)

2014-03-11 Thread BJ
see also this thread on developing plugins
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywikidev/5aHFb8K18LI

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[tw] Re: [TWC] TagglyTagging setup help?

2014-03-11 Thread Leo Staley
Thank you! I wish there were a link to that on the actual 
mptw.tiddlyspot.com! I totally missed that. 

On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 8:44:44 AM UTC-7, cmari wrote:
>
> The MPTW blog contains a link to this site where you can play around to 
> see the difference between "Group by tags" and "sitemap":
> http://animals.tiddlyspot.com/
> cmari
>  
>
>>
>> Also, What's the difference between the "Group by tags" and "sitemap" 
>> view options? 
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
>>
>> -Cheers
>> Leo
>>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Embed Chart.js into a TW5 file (pretty much like D3.js)

2014-03-11 Thread BJ


On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 7:17:46 AM UTC+5:30, Adolfo Delorenzo wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> As much as I like D3.js and have managed to display some very interesting 
> bar graphs, I do miss being able to generate other types of graphs. I tried 
> to insert Chart.js (https://raw.github.com/nnnick/Chart.js/master/Chart.js) 
> as a plugin/module copying the code into an empty TW5 file with no avail. 
> Unfortunately my limited coding skills and ability to understand the inner 
> structure of TW5 rendered all my attempts useless.
>
> If some kind soul of this great community could show me how to do this I 
> would be very grateful and in eternal moral debt.
>
> Thank you very much.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Adolfo Delorenzo
>

I can describe roughly how I Integrated ckeditor (cke) into tw5. I knew 
nothing of how Tw5 worked at first, so I hacked the ckeditor lib into Tw5. 
I read the cke example code, which shows how to use it within a simple 
webpage. I saw from the example code how cke took control of an existing 
html textarea on a web page in order to edit content. In Tw5 I saw that the 
edit-text widget used the html textarea, so I modified the edit-text widget 
source code according the cke example code (only the part that was involved 
with the textarea). using node,js I build the index.html(including my 
changes to the edit-widget) then treating it as a simple webpage, I loaded 
the whole file into a code editor and modified it with the remaining pieces 
of code as show in the cke example html files (the parts to include the 
ckeditor.js and initialisation of the lib). Note you need to disable 
autosave in your index.html as saving a tw5 file will overwrite any 
manually made changes to the tw5 file. Once I was able to edit and save 
content(not to disk) in this modified (hybrid) Tw5 file, I then looked at 
the tw5 plugins D3 and codemirror for inspiration, I also looked at the 
examples  html files that come with  D3 and codemirror libraries, which 
show how to integrate them in simple webpages. comparing the codemirror 
library examples html files with the codemirror plugin gave me enough 
pointers to start converting my hybrid tw5 into a real tw5 plugin. I used 
codemirroreditor.js as a rough guide to creating my plugin, and at first 
extracted my direct changes to the edit-text widget into overriding 
functions  as in the codemirror plugin. I saw that library files with .js 
extensions needed to be moved into tiddlers and these need to be of type 
json/javascript so that they will be loaded as modules (and thus converted 
in to runnable javascript) and then made accessible via call to the 
'require()' function in my plugin's code. After properly integrating the 
main library file (putting into a tid)  and its initialisation  (in my 
ckedit.js file) into tw5 I have moved all my code (the stuff in 
edit-text.js and directly add to index.html) into my plugin and from this 
point I no longer need to hack the index.html file or edit the tiddlywiki5 
edit-text widget - i.e. my plugin had been created.
Next I tackled the other external javascript, CSS and other configurations 
files, due to the larger number of files to convert to tids, I created a 
tool (a shell script) to create a "tiddlywiki.files". Next the code to 
initialise the library was modified to make the library work with tiddlers 
instead of external files. 
I then created the edit-html widget (and stopped overriding the edit-text 
widget's function) using the D3 plugin as a guide, then worked out from the 
tw5 source code and docs how to integrate the edit-html widget with the 
edit widget.

I took this 'hacking' approach because I knew nothing about tw5 internals, 
and doing it like this broken the processes down into manageable cycles of 
'getting something working' then 'learn a bit more and modify my code'. By 
the end of the process I had my first plugin and had learnt a lot about Tw5 
internals. 

Note: to include code in the header section, put the code into a tiddler 
and tag it with $:/core/wiki/rawmarkup.
I WOULD use this method now instead of hacking the index.html.

I WOULD NOT RECOMMEMD looking at the details of the ckeditor plugin - 
ckeditor is very Tw5 unfriendly and its integration is complex. I would 
expect that the chart.js integration to be much less complex. 

I WOULD compare the example html files that come with the chart.js lib with 
those that come with the D3.js lib - if they work in a similar way I would 
make a copy of the D3 plugin, rename the files, and modify they contents to 
work with chart.js. 
 

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[tw] Re: [TWC] TagglyTagging setup help?

2014-03-11 Thread Leo Staley
I read the documentation, as much as I could find, and there are *huge *gaps 
in it. For example, It took me *weeks *to figure out that I had to go into 
the actual ViewTemplate tiddler and change "tagging" to "tagglyTagging" 
*myself*. From the documentation, I expected the plugin to do it 
automatically by adding the tiddler "TagglyTaggingViewTempplate," or 
otherwise add it automatically once I installed the plugin. It wasn't for 
ANOTHER SEVERAL weeks until I realized that http://mptw.tiddlyspot.com/ 
itself was only making it happen because of the Tiddler "MptwTheme". I 
couldn't figure out how it was actually working, because the its 
ViewTemplate was unchanged from the default. In fact, I only learned a few 
minutes ago of "tagglyTagged". 

Now, I tried looking at the code, but since I don't know javascript, it was 
way over my head. I actually identified those parts you pasted there myself 
as important, but have no idea what do do about them or how to remove them, 
and make sure that I'm not breaking the whole thing. 

I actually tried, and actually did break the whole thing. :( I can't even 
tell you what exactly I tried, because I was so blitheringly confused the 
whole time. 

I do definitely appreciate trying to point me in the right direction, but 
the documentation level just isn't there, and I'm not a programmer, so I 
can't tweak the code myself without a lot of help. To give you an idea of 
my coding level, I was trying to adjust just the CSS styles of it, but 
because I couldn't easily visualize everything all at once, I eventually 
mostly gave up and just deleted all size and coloring font styles, which 
was a "arg, close enough" solution. At this point, I just want to avoid 
accidentally stumbling on a fix that looks like it works at first, but 
which I later discover has broken the whole thing altogether. 

Would you mind trying to figure out a bit more about what part of the code 
I should modify or delete? I would be so very grateful. 

Cheers!
-Leo


On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 4:49:35 AM UTC-7, PMario wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 2:49:23 AM UTC+1, Leo Staley wrote:
>>
>> My browser hangs and sometimes crashes or errors out when I reach 
>> "Contents" or "Sliders"
>>
>
> This may be of circular tags. eg:  A is tagged B is tagged A
> Which causes a recursion error. It may even stop, if you wait long enough 
> :)
>
> -m
>

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[tw] Re: What components required for TagglyTagging

2014-03-11 Thread Leo Staley
Thanks. Haven't actually seen those instructions listed anywhere else. 
After months of exploring and digging and tinkering, This is the first time 
anyone has pointed that out about "tagglyTagged." I figured out 
tagglyTagging, but not that. 

Cheers!
-Leo

On Sunday, October 12, 2008 2:17:27 AM UTC-7, wolfgang wrote:
>
>
>
>  
>
> and: 
>
>  
>
> have to replace the existing definitions for tagging and tagged in a 
> default ViewTemplate. 
>
> Regards, 
>
> W.

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[tw] Re: TWC: My post disappeared and my queries remain unanswered...?

2014-03-11 Thread Leo Staley
Keep in mind here: I'm just an end user myself, but I'll try my best to 
help out. What it sounds like you're trying to do doesn't make sense to me. 

It sounds like you have two Tiddlywiki html files that at one point were 
actually one file, but now, they both have changes that the other doesn't 
have. Then, you're trying somehow to combine those two html files back into 
one? 

If that's what you're trying to do, I don't have any clue how you're trying 
to do it, but it doesn't sound like it's going to work. 

It sounds like what you're going to want to do is click on the 
"backdground" button in the upper right corner of your tiddlywiki, and 
choose "import" in that bar up there. 

Then, click on browse and find the tiddlywiki file on your computer you 
want to "merge" with this one. Click "import" and a huge list of all the 
tiddlers in that tiddlywiki will show up (if you're not using another 
import plugin). There, you can find all the tiddlers which you want to add, 
and then scroll down and click import. 

I don't know much about the TiddlyHome thing you're talking about.

re: the post vanishing: That's something I've seen with google groups posts 
every once in a while. It had to do with a browser cookie issue. I 
personally recommend always copying all the text you want to post just 
before you click post, in case something goes wrong. 

Good luck
-Leo

On Saturday, March 8, 2014 10:56:51 AM UTC-7, smallhagrid wrote:
>
> Thanks Jeremy.
> Now that my post is up I do hope there are also some answers for my 
> questions...?!
>
> mark
>

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[tw] [TW5] How to disable a plugin?

2014-03-11 Thread Rustem
CodeMirror plugin doesn't play nice with "It's All Text!" Firefox add-on. I 
prefer using external editor via the add-on, but I realized that even if I 
don't have a [[$:/config/CodeMirror]] tiddler, CodeMirror is still working. 
I turned it off by deleting the directory "plugins/tiddlywiki/codemirror", 
but it's going to re-appear with the next update. So, how do I tell my wiki 
not to use the plugin?

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[tw] Re: [TW5] CodeMirror or TW5 bug?

2014-03-11 Thread Rustem


> I did create an issue: https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/483
>
> -mario
>

Thanks! I just wanted to check if this, maybe, a CodeMirror issue, not TW5 
issue, before doing the same. 

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[tw] Re: [TWC] TiddlersBarPlugin remembering scroll position

2014-03-11 Thread Leo Staley
I can't help, but could you explain the difference between Tobias' fork and 
the original? I read it, but i don't understand. 

On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 10:42:16 AM UTC-7, Albert Riedinger wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I use Tobias Beers' fork of TiddlersBarPlugin[1] in my custom theme with 
> TiddlersBar fixed in left sidebar. What I would like to achieve is that 
> TiddlersBarPlugin remembers the scroll position of tiddlers while switching 
> between them[2]. I tried to modify the code of TiddlersBarPlugin, but had 
> to give up realizing that I am only a JS beginner ;) My approach would be 
> to save the horizontal and vertical scroll positions in particular tiddler 
> fields with code like this:
>
> // save scroll position
> var scrX = findScrollX();
> var scrY = findScrollY();
> store.setValue(tiddler, "scrollPosX", scrX);
> store.setValue(tiddler, "scrollPosY", scrY);
>
> [...]
>
> // load and set scroll position
> var scrX = store.getValue(title, "scrollPosX");
> var scrY = store.getValue(title, "scrollPosY");
> window.scrollTo(scrX, scrY);
>
> The problem is, that I don't know where to put this or similar code in the 
> TiddlersBarPlugin. Maybe somewhere in the hijacked displayTiddler function? 
> I appriciate any help.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Albert
>
>
> [1] already requested by another user here: 
> https://raw.github.com/tobibeer/TiddlyWikiPlugins/master/forked/TiddlersBarPlugin.js
> [2] https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tiddlywiki/uH1N8FB8_uY/discussion
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[tw] Re: [TW5] CodeMirror or TW5 bug?

2014-03-11 Thread PMario
On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 12:44:25 AM UTC+1, Rustem wrote:
>
> Getting the error in both 5.0.8 and 5.0.9-prerelease.
>

I can reproduce it with FF and keymap=vim. Chrome seems to work fine for 
me. 
 

> How can I reproduce it on the site if it won't let me save the 
> [[$:/config/CodeMirror]]?
>
 
With my browser the save button works, even if I get an error message. But 
the saved file seems to be ok. 
 

> The site is not pre-configured. I'm sure this is an oversight by the way. 
> Without existing [[$:/config/CodeMirror]] it's not really a demo, just a 
> how-to.
>

It is preconfigured. Just the keyboard modes are not activated by default ;)

I did create an issue: https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/483

-mario




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[tw] Re: [TW5] CodeMirror or TW5 bug?

2014-03-11 Thread Rustem
Getting the error in both 5.0.8 and 5.0.9-prerelease.

How can I reproduce it on the site if it won't let me save the 
[[$:/config/CodeMirror]]? The site is not pre-configured. I'm sure this is 
an oversight by the way. Without existing [[$:/config/CodeMirror]] it's not 
really a demo, just a how-to.

On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 4:04:38 PM UTC-7, PMario wrote:
>
> Hi Rustem, 
>
> Which TW version do you use?
> <> is the macro to display TW version
>
> If you open: http://tiddlywiki.com/codemirrordemo.html .. can you 
> reproduce the issue?
>
> -m
>

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[tw] Saving Tiddlywiki Classic on Chrome (browser) and Chrome OS

2014-03-11 Thread Andrew Ashling
Okay, if this has been mentioned already, just ignore me or delete this 
entry.

I just installed Chrome on my fresh install of Mint Petra, Cinnamon Edition 
(based on Ubuntu 13.10, IIRC)

I work with a cluster of linked TWs, grouped in one folder, together with 
TddlySaver.jar.

I managed to save changes in TWs by installing a plugin called User-Agent 
Switcher.
 
Basically it can make Chrome behave as Firefox, Safari, Opera, IE and a few 
more.

And it works… The post I found this in, was actually about Chrome OS, so, 
since it works on Chrome browser, it should also work on Chromebooks,

The behavior is slightly different though than what I'm used to. Instead of 
saving a new copy, it saves the changed file over the old one.

I give this information as is, in hopes it can help someone. I have to 
stress though that I'm hardly a specialist, so if there's any interest, 
some people with more knowledge and experience than I have should try to 
replicate my findings.

Cheers,

Andrew


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[tw] Re: [TW5] CodeMirror or TW5 bug?

2014-03-11 Thread PMario
Hi Rustem, 

Which TW version do you use?
<> is the macro to display TW version

If you open: http://tiddlywiki.com/codemirrordemo.html .. can you reproduce 
the issue?

-m

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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki Hangout #38 is on Tuesday 11th March at 4pm GMT

2014-03-11 Thread PMario
annotations: http://pmario.tiddlyspace.com/#2014-03-11-TW-hangout-38
video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6obIvP5NiQ4

have fun!
mario

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Auto Import?

2014-03-11 Thread Scott Kingery
Probably beyond my skills as well. Doing a manual import may be all I need 
for now.

I did take a quick look at http://dropbox.tiddlywiki.com/ and it told my my 
TW5 wiki was not a TiddlyWiki. Same thing on fresh Empty.html. So maybe 
that is a bug? Pretty sure it is 5.0.8.


On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 1:58:13 AM UTC-7, AlexHough wrote:
>
> Scot and Jeremy,
>
> I too am interested in IFTT integrations with TW. 
>
> One of the areas I would like to explore may be useful for academic use. 
> Google Scholar has a feature which alerts you when a paper is published 
> which references a specified paper or key word. Currently I use IFTT to 
> produce a text doc in dropbox from gmail in anticipation of a development 
> in TW5 (my skills are not up to writing a widget at the present time)
>
> It would be good if each abstract became a Tiddler which then could be 
> annotated, linked, categorised etc. in a similar way to Téléologie et 
> fonctions biologiques[1] 
>
> Alex
> [1] http://tesis.tiddlyspot.com/
>
>
> On 11 March 2014 08:20, Jeremy Ruston  >wrote:
>
>> Hi Scott
>>
>> TW5 can use the Dropbox API from the browser, so your scenarios are 
>> doable.
>>
>> One could build a TW5 plugin that on startup authorises with Dropbox if 
>> necessary, and then loads tiddlers from a specified folder.
>>
>> TiddlyWiki in the Sky for Dropbox does something fairly similar:
>>
>> http://dropbox.tiddlywiki.com/
>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki-in-the-Sky
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 5:28 AM, Scott Kingery 
>> 
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I had the kernel of an idea the other day... I don't know if you've ever 
>>> used IFTTT (https://ifttt.com/) but it lets you (among other things) 
>>> create a text file based on things that happen elsewhere on the web. 
>>> Example would be you make a favorite on Twitter and it would create a text 
>>> file in your Dropbox. Or checkin on Foursquare and it could create a text 
>>> file in Dropbox.
>>>
>>> I've worked out the syntax for it to create a text file that could be 
>>> used as a tiddler. There is another wrinkle in that IFTTT won't let you set 
>>> a file extension so they all come out as myfile.tid.txt so I'd have to 
>>> rename them first anyway.
>>>
>>> I created a recipe for FourSquare just for testing 
>>> https://ifttt.com/view_embed_recipe/152163-foursquare-to-tiddlywiki
>>>
>>> I could use a batch file to watch the folder for new items and do a 
>>> rename to .tid.
>>>
>>> Certainly not urgent, just looking for unique ways to use TW5.
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 10, 2014 7:56:24 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>>
 Hi Scott

 On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:49 PM, Scott Kingery wrote:

> Given a set location of .tid files, is there anyway to have TW5 
>  import them on launch?
>

 If you mean the standalone TW5 running in the browser then I'm afraid 
 the answer is "no". Can you describe your use case a little?

 Best wishes
  
 Jeremy


  

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[tw] Re: [TW5] CodeMirror or TW5 bug?

2014-03-11 Thread Rustem
Underscore as well.

On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 1:59:41 PM UTC-7, Rustem wrote:
>
> Using CodeMirror. Whenever I type in an equal sign, I get a big red 
> message: "TypeError: keyName.indexOf is not a function".
>

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[tw] [TW5] CodeMirror or TW5 bug?

2014-03-11 Thread Rustem
Using CodeMirror. Whenever I type in an equal sign, I get a big red 
message: "TypeError: keyName.indexOf is not a function".

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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki Hangout #37 will be on Tuesday 4th March at 4pm GMT

2014-03-11 Thread PMario
the annotations: http://pmario.tiddlyspace.com/#2014-03-04-TW-hangout-37
the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwxGS8aphT8

have fun!
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[tw] Re: [TW5] List fields of a tiddler

2014-03-11 Thread Stephan Hradek


Am Dienstag, 11. März 2014 20:33:21 UTC+1 schrieb Rustem:
>
> How can I use an arbitrary field for the list, instead of the special 
> "list " field? 
>

At the moment you can't. You could use my split plugin (not yet finalized) 
which you can see on http://tiddlystuff.tiddlyspot.com to split any string 
value into list elements. Search for "Selfmade lists"
 

> And in general, why is there only one list field, and it has to be named 
> "list"?
>

Because it was implemented that way. 

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[tw] [TW5] List fields of a tiddler

2014-03-11 Thread Rustem
Would like to share something useful and hopefully improve it with your 
help. I don't remember how I came up with this. Certainly not on my own, I 
just derived it from someone else's work.

Create the following tiddlers:

*ListFieldsColTemplate*

<$list filter="[list{!!title}]" variable="currentField"><
><$view field=<>/>


*ListFieldsRowTemplate*

<$list filter="[list{!!title}]" variable="currentField">
<><$list 
filter="[list{!!title}]" variable="currentField"><$view field=<
>/>

Create a test tiddler:

   - Add lines
   {{{[is[current]]||ListFieldsRowTemplate}}}
   {{{[is[current]]||ListFieldsColTemplate}}}
   - Add fields
   - field1 
  foo
  - field2
  bar
  - list 
  field2 field1
  
  
  

*Now the question:*

How can I use an arbitrary field for the list, instead of the special "list 
" field? 

   - myfieldlistfield
  field2 field1
  
And in general, why is there only one list field, and it has to be named 
"list"?

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[tw] Re: [TW5] multi-line list?

2014-03-11 Thread Rustem
Found it:
* list item 1
* """list item 2
line 2
line 3"""

On Monday, March 3, 2014 2:57:42 PM UTC-8, Rustem wrote:
>
> Is there a trick that would allow me to have line breaks in a list item?
>
> In TWC I used a fake class for that:
> * {{m{My bullet point.
> It has two lines! }}}
>
>

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[tw] [TWC] TiddlersBarPlugin remembering scroll position

2014-03-11 Thread Albert Riedinger
Hi all,

I use Tobias Beers' fork of TiddlersBarPlugin[1] in my custom theme with 
TiddlersBar fixed in left sidebar. What I would like to achieve is that 
TiddlersBarPlugin remembers the scroll position of tiddlers while switching 
between them[2]. I tried to modify the code of TiddlersBarPlugin, but had 
to give up realizing that I am only a JS beginner ;) My approach would be 
to save the horizontal and vertical scroll positions in particular tiddler 
fields with code like this:

// save scroll position
var scrX = findScrollX();
var scrY = findScrollY();
store.setValue(tiddler, "scrollPosX", scrX);
store.setValue(tiddler, "scrollPosY", scrY);

[...]

// load and set scroll position
var scrX = store.getValue(title, "scrollPosX");
var scrY = store.getValue(title, "scrollPosY");
window.scrollTo(scrX, scrY);

The problem is, that I don't know where to put this or similar code in the 
TiddlersBarPlugin. Maybe somewhere in the hijacked displayTiddler function? 
I appriciate any help.

Thanks in advance,
Albert


[1] already requested by another user here: 
https://raw.github.com/tobibeer/TiddlyWikiPlugins/master/forked/TiddlersBarPlugin.js
[2] https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tiddlywiki/uH1N8FB8_uY/discussion

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[tw] Re: Questions after Importing [TW5]

2014-03-11 Thread HowardM
I ran across this problem when testing the import of tiddlers from a large 
classic file into TW5.  The solution that worked for me was to open the TW5 
file in a text editor (I used TextWrangler which is free) and do a global 
replace of the string: type="text/x-tiddlywiki" to the string: 
type="text/vnd.tidddlywiki" - the whole strings in each case from 'type' to 
the closing inverted commas.   No guarantees - and I would copy the file 
before trying this - but I have not found any problems with this technique.

Howard M

On Sunday, March 9, 2014 11:18:37 PM UTC, Mark S. wrote:
>
>
> After importing, the tiddlers are marked with the classic format, but they 
> are not formatted with media-wiki. That is, the text of the tiddler is 
> shown as the raw text and not the formatted text.  ''Bold'' is not in bold, 
> for instance but is just shown as ''Bold''.
>
> If I change the type to TiddlyWiki 5, then the formatting works, but the 
> text is run together. 
>
> Is there a way to make the lines work the way they worked before, so each 
> line return results in one line return?
>
> Is there a way to change the type of all of the tiddlers to the new type 
> without going through them one-by-one ?
>
> Thanks,
> Mark
>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] TiddlersBar or Breadcrumbs

2014-03-11 Thread Patrick Sanders
When I have several tiddlers open, but need only a subset of them, pressing 
breadcrumbs or selecting in the search list, jumps around in the 
Story-River.
Especially when I select an already opened tiddler, scroll down, scroll up 
to start, but get passed the beginning and I don't notice it.

What I would like is that a selected tiddler (breadcrumb or from search) is 
displayed at the top, so that I know the latest selected tiddlers are on 
the top.

Is there a way to manipulate the StoryList in Last Pressed Top Viewed (some 
kind of LIFO)?

I use the breadcrumb solution from http://tw5breadcrumbs.tiddlyspot.com/.


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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki Hangout #38 is on Tuesday 11th March at 4pm GMT

2014-03-11 Thread Jeremy Ruston
The hangout is about to start over at:

https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYfE2Qc0JckrsEGInS6WtP3VCGAQR-lpZ-3usdwYPBZ05cpxVQ

Best wishes

Jeremy



On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 9:03 AM, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

> Thank you Eric, very helpful.
>
> Hope to see you later,
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Eric Shulman  wrote:
>
>> IMPORTANT REMINDER:
>>
>> US Daylight Saving Time began on Sunday, March 9, 2014.  However, British
>> Summer Time (BST) does not begin until Sunday, March 30, 2014.  As a
>> result, for the next few weeks, US time zones will be 1 hour "closer" to
>> GMT than normal.  Thus, the TiddlyWiki Hangout scheduled for 4pm GMT will
>> begin at 12noon EDT, and 9am PDT rather than the usually 11am and 8am
>> times, respectively.  This *apparent* change in schedule only applies to
>> people living in the US, and will only persistent until BST takes effect on
>> March 30, after which the normal differences between US and GMT timezones
>> will be restored.
>>
>> -e
>>
>> On Sunday, March 9, 2014 12:53:07 AM UTC-8, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>>> TiddlyWiki Hangout #38 is on Tuesday 11th March at 4pm GMT:
>>>
>>> https://plus.google.com/events/c1bdanfvi8s0anvee8ba070bjqg
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>>
>>> Jeremy.
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>
>
>
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[tw] Re: [TWC] TagglyTagging setup help?

2014-03-11 Thread cmari
The MPTW blog contains a link to this site where you can play around to see 
the difference between "Group by tags" and "sitemap":
http://animals.tiddlyspot.com/
cmari
 

>
> Also, What's the difference between the "Group by tags" and "sitemap" view 
> options? 
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> -Cheers
> Leo
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5.0.8] Upgrade to TW5: Newlines are no newlines anymore

2014-03-11 Thread Patrick Sanders
Thanks for your explanation.
I will keep an eye the discussion.

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Embed Chart.js into a TW5 file (pretty much like D3.js)

2014-03-11 Thread Jochen Frühauf


Hi Jeremy

   - Is there a documentation for the D3-plugin
   - When I am trying to save a Raw Data Tiddler for the D3-plugin I always 
   getting the attached error message

Thanks

Jochen


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[tw] Re: [TW5] Embed Chart.js into a TW5 file (pretty much like D3.js)

2014-03-11 Thread Adolfo Delorenzo
Thanks Jeremy!!

Best,

Adolfo Delorenzo

On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 10:47:46 PM UTC-3, Adolfo Delorenzo wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> As much as I like D3.js and have managed to display some very interesting 
> bar graphs, I do miss being able to generate other types of graphs. I tried 
> to insert Chart.js (https://raw.github.com/nnnick/Chart.js/master/Chart.js) 
> as a plugin/module copying the code into an empty TW5 file with no avail. 
> Unfortunately my limited coding skills and ability to understand the inner 
> structure of TW5 rendered all my attempts useless.
>
> If some kind soul of this great community could show me how to do this I 
> would be very grateful and in eternal moral debt.
>
> Thank you very much.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Adolfo Delorenzo
>

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[tw] Re: [TWC] TagglyTagging setup help?

2014-03-11 Thread PMario
On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 2:49:23 AM UTC+1, Leo Staley wrote:
>
> My browser hangs and sometimes crashes or errors out when I reach 
> "Contents" or "Sliders"
>

This may be of circular tags. eg:  A is tagged B is tagged A
Which causes a recursion error. It may even stop, if you wait long enough :)

-m

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[tw] Re: [TWC] TagglyTagging setup help?

2014-03-11 Thread PMario


TagglyTagging is part of the monkey pirate tiddlywiki. 
http://mptw.tiddlyspot.com/#TagglyTagging

On the site, there is a lot of documentation. So read it first. May be there 
are plugin options. 


The plugin is http://mptw.tiddlyspot.com/#TagglyTaggingPlugin

There is a line:

  excerpts:   
["noexcerpts","excerpts","descr","slices","contents","sliders"]


Since this is part of the "config" structure, there may be a parameter that can 
overwrite this setting. 
If not you may hack the plugin --- but ---  make sure you change the name of 
your hacked plugin, and make it clear, what you did. 
So nobody gets confused. 

haver fun!
-mario

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Embed Chart.js into a TW5 file (pretty much like D3.js)

2014-03-11 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Jochen

> Is there a documentation for the D3-plugin

I'm afraid not, beyond the source code. Feel free to ask questions on
TiddlyWikiDev or GitHub and I'll be happy to answer.

> When I am trying to save a Raw Data Tiddler for the D3-plugin I always
getting the attached error message

Thanks for reminding me, that is an old bug. Now fixed for 5.0.9:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/aec618793f41b937676a5a165764dc19d9bbb2b2

Best wishes

Jeremy




On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Jochen Frühauf
wrote:

> Hi Jeremy
>
>- Is there a documentation for the D3-plugin
>- When I am trying to save a Raw Data Tiddler for the D3-plugin I
>always getting the attached error message
>
> Thanks
>
> Jochen
>
>
>


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Re: [tw] [TW5.0.8] Upgrade to TW5: Newlines are no newlines anymore

2014-03-11 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Patrick

As we've discussed a few times, upgrading existing wikis from TWC to TW5
isn't recommended yet. The upgrade path will get smoother as TiddlyWiki5
matures but right now it is not finished - hence the beta tag.

In particular, there is a ticket under discussion to add support for
"GitHub Flavoured Markdown" line break handling, which will give you the
behaviour you want:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/443

Best wishes

Jeremy





On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Patrick Sanders <
patrick.sanders.b...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> I'am very disappointed to see that newlines are not interpreted as
> newlines () anymore.
>
> In TWC I used newlines extensively, just for text which needed to be on a
> new line (non paragraphed text). For simple lists, as I didn't need special
> formatting.
> The only formatting I used was for headers (!!!) and for block quote ({{{).
>
> In http://compare-tw2-tw5.tiddlyspace.com/#syntax I read that
> HardLineBreaks is implemented and special formatting is explicitly needed.
>
> I tried to set """ at the beginning and end, but it does not work, when
> other formatting (headers/block quotes) are in between.
> Changing all occurrences is too much work, also it obscures the tiddler
> text with so many formatting characters. I am really considering going back
> to TWC.
>
> Is there a way I can get my newlines back?
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[tw] [TW5.0.8] Upgrade to TW5: Newlines are no newlines anymore

2014-03-11 Thread Patrick Sanders
I'am very disappointed to see that newlines are not interpreted as newlines 
() anymore.

In TWC I used newlines extensively, just for text which needed to be on a 
new line (non paragraphed text). For simple lists, as I didn't need special 
formatting. 
The only formatting I used was for headers (!!!) and for block quote ({{{).

In http://compare-tw2-tw5.tiddlyspace.com/#syntax I read that 
HardLineBreaks is implemented and special formatting is explicitly needed.

I tried to set """ at the beginning and end, but it does not work, when 
other formatting (headers/block quotes) are in between.
Changing all occurrences is too much work, also it obscures the tiddler 
text with so many formatting characters. I am really considering going back 
to TWC.

Is there a way I can get my newlines back?

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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki Hangout #38 is on Tuesday 11th March at 4pm GMT

2014-03-11 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Thank you Eric, very helpful.

Hope to see you later,

Best wishes

Jeremy



On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Eric Shulman  wrote:

> IMPORTANT REMINDER:
>
> US Daylight Saving Time began on Sunday, March 9, 2014.  However, British
> Summer Time (BST) does not begin until Sunday, March 30, 2014.  As a
> result, for the next few weeks, US time zones will be 1 hour "closer" to
> GMT than normal.  Thus, the TiddlyWiki Hangout scheduled for 4pm GMT will
> begin at 12noon EDT, and 9am PDT rather than the usually 11am and 8am
> times, respectively.  This *apparent* change in schedule only applies to
> people living in the US, and will only persistent until BST takes effect on
> March 30, after which the normal differences between US and GMT timezones
> will be restored.
>
> -e
>
> On Sunday, March 9, 2014 12:53:07 AM UTC-8, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
>> TiddlyWiki Hangout #38 is on Tuesday 11th March at 4pm GMT:
>>
>> https://plus.google.com/events/c1bdanfvi8s0anvee8ba070bjqg
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy.
>>
>>
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Re: [tw] [TW5] Auto Import?

2014-03-11 Thread Alex Hough
Scot and Jeremy,

I too am interested in IFTT integrations with TW.

One of the areas I would like to explore may be useful for academic use.
Google Scholar has a feature which alerts you when a paper is published
which references a specified paper or key word. Currently I use IFTT to
produce a text doc in dropbox from gmail in anticipation of a development
in TW5 (my skills are not up to writing a widget at the present time)

It would be good if each abstract became a Tiddler which then could be
annotated, linked, categorised etc. in a similar way to Téléologie et
fonctions biologiques[1]

Alex
[1] http://tesis.tiddlyspot.com/


On 11 March 2014 08:20, Jeremy Ruston  wrote:

> Hi Scott
>
> TW5 can use the Dropbox API from the browser, so your scenarios are doable.
>
> One could build a TW5 plugin that on startup authorises with Dropbox if
> necessary, and then loads tiddlers from a specified folder.
>
> TiddlyWiki in the Sky for Dropbox does something fairly similar:
>
> http://dropbox.tiddlywiki.com/
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki-in-the-Sky
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 5:28 AM, Scott Kingery 
> wrote:
>
>> I had the kernel of an idea the other day... I don't know if you've ever
>> used IFTTT (https://ifttt.com/) but it lets you (among other things)
>> create a text file based on things that happen elsewhere on the web.
>> Example would be you make a favorite on Twitter and it would create a text
>> file in your Dropbox. Or checkin on Foursquare and it could create a text
>> file in Dropbox.
>>
>> I've worked out the syntax for it to create a text file that could be
>> used as a tiddler. There is another wrinkle in that IFTTT won't let you set
>> a file extension so they all come out as myfile.tid.txt so I'd have to
>> rename them first anyway.
>>
>> I created a recipe for FourSquare just for testing
>> https://ifttt.com/view_embed_recipe/152163-foursquare-to-tiddlywiki
>>
>> I could use a batch file to watch the folder for new items and do a
>> rename to .tid.
>>
>> Certainly not urgent, just looking for unique ways to use TW5.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
>> On Monday, March 10, 2014 7:56:24 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Scott
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:49 PM, Scott Kingery wrote:
>>>
 Given a set location of .tid files, is there anyway to have TW5  import
 them on launch?

>>>
>>> If you mean the standalone TW5 running in the browser then I'm afraid
>>> the answer is "no". Can you describe your use case a little?
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>>
>>> Jeremy
>>>
>>>
>>>
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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki Hangout #38 is on Tuesday 11th March at 4pm GMT

2014-03-11 Thread Eric Shulman
IMPORTANT REMINDER:

US Daylight Saving Time began on Sunday, March 9, 2014.  However, British 
Summer Time (BST) does not begin until Sunday, March 30, 2014.  As a 
result, for the next few weeks, US time zones will be 1 hour "closer" to 
GMT than normal.  Thus, the TiddlyWiki Hangout scheduled for 4pm GMT will 
begin at 12noon EDT, and 9am PDT rather than the usually 11am and 8am 
times, respectively.  This *apparent* change in schedule only applies to 
people living in the US, and will only persistent until BST takes effect on 
March 30, after which the normal differences between US and GMT timezones 
will be restored.

-e

On Sunday, March 9, 2014 12:53:07 AM UTC-8, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> TiddlyWiki Hangout #38 is on Tuesday 11th March at 4pm GMT:
>
> https://plus.google.com/events/c1bdanfvi8s0anvee8ba070bjqg
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Embed Chart.js into a TW5 file (pretty much like D3.js)

2014-03-11 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Adolfo

> Any chance of one of the TW5 gurus provide at least some hints on how to
'replace' D3.js with Chart.js?

I'd recommend reading Chris Hunt's widget coding guide:

http://cjhunt.github.io

The existing D3 plugin is a good guide to how to do the integration. The
widgets render() method would create the canvas in the DOM, and then render
the chart into it.

Best wishes

Jeremy









On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 2:43 AM, Adolfo Delorenzo wrote:

> Hello Dear Community Members,
>
> Any chance of one of the TW5 gurus provide at least some hints on how to
> 'replace' D3.js with Chart.js?
>
> Thank you in advance.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Adolfo Delorenzo
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 10:47:46 PM UTC-3, Adolfo Delorenzo wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> As much as I like D3.js and have managed to display some very interesting
>> bar graphs, I do miss being able to generate other types of graphs. I tried
>> to insert Chart.js (https://raw.github.com/nnnick/Chart.js/master/Chart.
>> js) as a plugin/module copying the code into an empty TW5 file with no
>> avail. Unfortunately my limited coding skills and ability to understand the
>> inner structure of TW5 rendered all my attempts useless.
>>
>> If some kind soul of this great community could show me how to do this I
>> would be very grateful and in eternal moral debt.
>>
>> Thank you very much.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Adolfo Delorenzo
>>
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Re: [tw] [5] Questins from very first baby steps with Filters.

2014-03-11 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Thanks Mat, I appreciate your feedback,

Best wishes

Jeremy



On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 2:14 AM, Mat  wrote:

> Stephan, Jeremy - thank you! After playing around with Stephans comments
> in mind over this past week I happened to watch the last hangout just some
> hours ago... where Jeremy shows the update for the TiddlyFilters
> documentation tiddler... and then you post on this here! Neat coincidence!
>
> Just a note: While the link Jeremy provides does go to some documentation
> I believe this github 
> pageof
>  his to the TiddlyFilters documentation is more explanatory. (NOTE to
> anyone reading this: THE LINK IS TO JEREMYS GITHUB CODE AND IT IS OBVIOUSLY
> NOT PUBLISHED/OFFICIAL YET.)
>
> Again, thank you Stephan and Jeremy!
>
> <:-)
>
>
>
> On Monday, March 10, 2014 7:26:51 PM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
>> Hi Mat
>>
>> Sorry for the late reply.
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 10:12 PM, Mat  wrote:
>>
>>> (Note: It may be that all my questions are answered in the tiddler
>>> "TiddlerFilter Formal Grammar" but I do not yet understand how to read that
>>> tiddler at all.)
>>>
>>
>> I've added a note to the formal grammar tiddler for 5.0.9 making it
>> clearer that the grammar documentation is just provided for people who are
>> comfortable with the notation.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Thus:
>>>
>>> *Filter*
>>>
>>> [tag[important]sort[title]]
>>> Ok, looks fair. Does it make sense to refer to "tag" as a filter, but
>>> "sort" rather as a "modifier" or is there another term, cause it's not a
>>> filter, is it?
>>>
>>> *Explanation given at tiddlywiki.com *
>>>
>>> All tiddlers with the tag important sorted by title
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Both `tag` and `sort` here are filter operators.
>>
>>
>>> [tag[important]!sort[title]]
>>> I get it, but it seems a bit contrieved that what really reads "not
>>> sort" does a reverse sorting. What's the reasoning behind this?
>>>
>>>
>> Do you mean that it should have been [sort![title]]? Or [sort[!title]]?
>>
>> The reason for not using the first alternative is that I through the
>> prefix was clearer.
>>
>> The reason for not using the second alternative is that it would have
>> restricted operands to not be able to start with an exclamation mark.
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> All tiddlers with the tag important reverse sorted by title[[one]]
>>> [[two]] [[three]] +[tag[tom]]
>>> Is a blank space interpreted as OR iff(!) the space resides between
>>> operands? ... and a space followed by an expressed operator (the +) is just
>>> a space? What's the general rule here?
>>>
>>>
>> I've updated the filter documentation for 5.0.9 to try to explain the way
>> that they are processed a bit better:
>>
>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/
>> 6a63a459686f441d8bcdbe29f894cf671e5177de
>>
>>
>>
>>> Alternatively,  shouldn't there be some kind of surrounding brackets
>>> around the three first operands? AND is normally not that powerful...
>>> but maybe + is not a regular AND but a super-AND spreading onto everything?
>>>
>>>
>> The filter syntax intentionally doesn't use brackets for grouping, as I
>> don't think non-technical users can readily understand them. The tiddler I
>> linked above attempts to explain the processing algorithm.
>>
>>
>>> BTW, are regular brackets, i.e ( and ) allowed at all actually?
>>>
>>> Any of the tiddlers called one, two or three that exist and are tagged
>>> with tom [[one]] [[two]] [[three]] [tag[tom]]
>>> (no question)
>>> Any of the tiddlers called one, two or three that exist, along with all
>>> of the source tiddlers that are tagged with tom [tag[tom]] [tag[harry]]
>>> -[[one][two][three]]
>>> Now, suddenly there ARE brackets for the minus sign, hmm...
>>> And there are no spaces between one, two, three. Does no space make
>>> logic AND? Is outer brackets required for this?
>>> Why does "tag" require outer brackets? Shouldn't tag[tom] be enough
>>> (making the word tag holy).
>>>
>>>
>> "tag" requires outer brackets because all filter operators require outer
>> brackets. As explained above, we merge adjacent brackets to indicate an
>> "AND".
>>
>>
>>>
>>> All tiddlers tagged either tom or harry, but excluding one, two and
>>> three[[MyTiddler]tags[]]
>>> Is this a *special* command or could someone explain how this
>>> translates into the explanation on the right.
>>> Does tags[] mean "all existing tags"?
>>> And does "written directly after and without space" (in this case
>>> referring the position of "tags[]") generally mean that we're talking about
>>> something concerning what is written before it (in this case [MyTiddler])?
>>> Must it be an operator written after?
>>>
>>
>> The [[MyTiddler]] part starts us off with a list of one entry, the title
>> "MyTiddler". The "tags" operator then returns the tags that are applied to
>> all the currently accumulated tiddlers, in this case just "MyTiddler"

Re: [tw] [TW5] Auto Import?

2014-03-11 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Scott

TW5 can use the Dropbox API from the browser, so your scenarios are doable.

One could build a TW5 plugin that on startup authorises with Dropbox if
necessary, and then loads tiddlers from a specified folder.

TiddlyWiki in the Sky for Dropbox does something fairly similar:

http://dropbox.tiddlywiki.com/
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki-in-the-Sky

Best wishes

Jeremy





On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 5:28 AM, Scott Kingery wrote:

> I had the kernel of an idea the other day... I don't know if you've ever
> used IFTTT (https://ifttt.com/) but it lets you (among other things)
> create a text file based on things that happen elsewhere on the web.
> Example would be you make a favorite on Twitter and it would create a text
> file in your Dropbox. Or checkin on Foursquare and it could create a text
> file in Dropbox.
>
> I've worked out the syntax for it to create a text file that could be used
> as a tiddler. There is another wrinkle in that IFTTT won't let you set a
> file extension so they all come out as myfile.tid.txt so I'd have to rename
> them first anyway.
>
> I created a recipe for FourSquare just for testing
> https://ifttt.com/view_embed_recipe/152163-foursquare-to-tiddlywiki
>
> I could use a batch file to watch the folder for new items and do a rename
> to .tid.
>
> Certainly not urgent, just looking for unique ways to use TW5.
>
> Scott
>
>
> On Monday, March 10, 2014 7:56:24 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
>> Hi Scott
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:49 PM, Scott Kingery wrote:
>>
>>> Given a set location of .tid files, is there anyway to have TW5  import
>>> them on launch?
>>>
>>
>> If you mean the standalone TW5 running in the browser then I'm afraid the
>> answer is "no". Can you describe your use case a little?
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>>
>>
>>
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