[tw] Re: [TW5] How do I put a list of links along the top?

[Daniel Gee]

Ah! This is exactly what I was looking for. It was confusing a bit because 
the LeftMenu and TopMenu things are kinda intermixed, but I think I have it 
figured out.

Few more questions now:
1) Entries in the tag pill lists aren't alphabetized it seems. Is there a 
way to enforce that?
2) I don't know CSS at all. Can a background be added to the top menu so 
that the buttons don't look weird when you scroll down? As it is, they get 
jumbled in with the tiddler that has scrolled up.

On Monday, July 21, 2014 10:36:57 PM UTC-6, Daniel Gee wrote:
>
> I'd like to have a list of links to the most important tiddlers along the 
> top of the page in TW5. Like on Reddit or Facebook or other sites. How 
> would I go about doing this in TW5?
>
> If possible, I'd like the links to be like the tag links on a tiddler, and 
> open dropdowns to pages in that category.
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[tw] Escape // and __

[duzuike]

Hi,

  I want  
 
   http://twitter.com

   __stdcall



 But I got:

 http:*twitter.com* 
 and
 *stdcall*


I tryied   and """ , but it didn't help.


How to escape // and __ ?

Thank you.

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[tw] How to escape __ and //

[duzuike]

Hi,

  I want  
 
   svn://example.com 

   __stdcall



 But I got:

 http:*example.com*
 
 *stdcall*


I tryied   and """ , but it didn't help.


How to escape // and __ ?

Thank you.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] How do I put a list of links along the top?

[Daniel Gee]

Oh, it seems that the tag pills are alphabetical once you refresh the page 
entirely. Silly me.

Still, I would like to know if there's a way to put a proper background on 
the TopMenu

On Monday, July 21, 2014 10:36:57 PM UTC-6, Daniel Gee wrote:
>
> I'd like to have a list of links to the most important tiddlers along the 
> top of the page in TW5. Like on Reddit or Facebook or other sites. How 
> would I go about doing this in TW5?
>
> If possible, I'd like the links to be like the tag links on a tiddler, and 
> open dropdowns to pages in that category.
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] How do I put a list of links along the top?

[Ton Gerner]

Hi Daniel,

Hmm, if I look at [1] all entries are sorted alphabetically.
Anyway, you can add "sort[title]" in the <$list filter ...> of 
$:/_ui/MenuTemplate (near the bottom):

<$list filter="[all[current]tagging[]sort[title]]" 
template="$:/core/ui/ListItemTemplate"/>

You can add a background (although not perfect) with something like this:

.tw-topbar {
 background-color: white;
}

in a stylesheet.

Cheers,

Ton

[1] http://tw5topleft.tiddlyspot.com/


On Tuesday, July 22, 2014 10:14:52 AM UTC+2, Daniel Gee wrote:
>
> Oh, it seems that the tag pills are alphabetical once you refresh the page 
> entirely. Silly me.
>
> Still, I would like to know if there's a way to put a proper background on 
> the TopMenu
>
> On Monday, July 21, 2014 10:36:57 PM UTC-6, Daniel Gee wrote:
>>
>> I'd like to have a list of links to the most important tiddlers along the 
>> top of the page in TW5. Like on Reddit or Facebook or other sites. How 
>> would I go about doing this in TW5?
>>
>> If possible, I'd like the links to be like the tag links on a tiddler, 
>> and open dropdowns to pages in that category.
>>
>

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[tw] Re: How to escape __ and //

[Ton Gerner]

Hi duzuike,

You can handle it like code:

```
svn://example.com

__stdcall
```

or

`svn://example.com`


`__stdcall`

but I don't know if this is what you want.

Cheers,

Ton

On Tuesday, July 22, 2014 9:43:41 AM UTC+2, duzuike wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>   I want  
>  
>svn://example.com 
>
>__stdcall
>
>
>
>  But I got:
>
>  http:*example.com *
>  
>  *stdcall*
>
>
> I tryied   and """ , but it didn't help.
>
>
> How to escape // and __ ?
>
> Thank you.
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] How do I put a list of links along the top?

[Daniel Gee]

Oh, I see now!

After a bit of fiddling I settled on

.tw-topbar {
 margin-top: -5px;
 border-radius: 10px;
 padding: 2px 5px 5px 5px;
 background-color: black;
}

for now. I can adjust it later as I decide on what specific tags I'll be 
keeping along the top. Thanks.

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> I'd like to have a list of links to the most important tiddlers along the 
> top of the page in TW5. Like on Reddit or Facebook or other sites. How 
> would I go about doing this in TW5?
>
> If possible, I'd like the links to be like the tag links on a tiddler, and 
> open dropdowns to pages in that category.
>

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[tw] Re: How to escape __ and //

[Stephan Hradek]

As long as ~ does not generally unescape, going for html escapes might help:

_ => _
/ => /


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[tw] Re: How to escape __ and //

[duzuike]

Thank you.

This result is what I wanted. 

But I want to know  is there any simpler method ?  What is 
 and """ ? 

在 2014年7月22日星期二UTC+8下午4时45分25秒，Stephan Hradek写道：
>
> As long as ~ does not generally unescape, going for html escapes might 
> help:
>
> _ => _
> / => /
>
>
>

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[tw] Re: TW in Education

[Chris Dent]

I've got some comments on your "ultimate goal" down below, but I wanted to 
respond to some of the earlier things as well, first.

On Saturday, July 19, 2014 2:58:41 PM UTC+1, Måns wrote:

>
> I still use some of my wikis as ressources, materials etc... - I don't 
> want to make my students or collegues sign up for an infrastructure they 
> don't understand or need   - and I lost faith in the sustainability of 
> tiddlyspace (development and support) when Chris Dent stopped working at 
> BT. 
>

I reckon there's enough water under the bridge now where I can say: I 
didn't want to stop working at BT, BT decided they wanted to stop paying 
me. It's still unclear what their plans are (since nobody is talking) but 
they have successfully done the migration to new hardware, monitored by 
someone who appears invested and interested, so I guess things will carry 
on in some form of support. The concern I would have is whether there will 
be any active development.
 

> Tank seems very promising - and I'm sure that Chris will take it far - 
> again it is a project in heavy development and I don't have the needed time 
> or ressources to setup my own Tank on shared ressources at our school atm. 
> On the other hand I'm sure Chris would help me out if I invested some time 
> in a local project with Tank.
>

I'm using Tank every day now as my personal notebook, bookmarker and as an 
archive of my tweets. It basically works for those aspects, but you're 
right, it isn't yet complete (especially on the tiddlywiki sides). I am, 
however, making some progress on making it a bit easier for people to 
install their own tanks: https://github.com/cdent/tankdock But, again, will 
be some time before that is point and click.
 

> Collaboration isn't really the ultimate goal here - it's more simultaneity 
> and syncronicity I'm striving for.
>

This may be a large contributor to why TiddlyWeb, TiddlySpace and Tank have 
never felt, to you, like quite the right fit. All of those are either 
primarily or significantly built by me and _a_synchronous collaboration is 
the driving force behind pretty much all that I create. There are two main 
reasons for that:

* I want to enable work teams that are disjunct in both time and space.
* I want the resources that are created to be available to anyone, 
anywhere, anytime (that is, the fruits of the labor of creating the 
artifacts should be available to the widest audience).

That doesn't exclude the classroom setting, of course, but does 
de-emphasize the simultaneity aspects quite a bit.

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[tw] Re: How to escape __ and //

[Stephan Hradek]

You forgot to mention [twc] or [tw5] in the topic. I assume, this is twc… 
Someone else needs to jump in here.

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[tw] Re: TW5: Problem Using Stephan Hradek's newtiddler plugin

[Jonathan Salles]

Hi Matabele,

Thanks.  I came accross http://gwiz.tiddlyspot.com 

 just 
before you mentioned it.  Very interesting work.  I will be looking to 
incorporate some of that.

Jonathan

On Thursday, July 17, 2014 2:48:54 PM UTC-4, Matabele wrote:
>
> Hi Jonathan
>
> On Wednesday, June 11, 2014 9:54:54 PM UTC+2, Jonathan Salles wrote:
>
>  Creating tiddlers based on a template is a lot of what I want to do with 
>> TiddlyWiki, so I would appreciate some help.
>>
>
> Have a look at my widget plugins here: http://gwiz.tiddlyspot.com 
> 
>
> In particular the example at the bottom of the introductory tiddler 
> 'Stacked Widgets'. The <$mangletags> widget is a modified version of 
> Stephan's <$newtiddler> widget -- designed to be stacked around a <$button> 
> widget with additional <$setfield> widgets. In this way, a tiddler can be 
> created from scratch without the need for a template.
>
> regards
>
>  
>

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[tw] Re: TW5: Problem Using Stephan Hradek's newtiddler plugin

[Jonathan Salles]

Hi Stephan,

I finally made a whole new Create Journal with a create tiddler and 
skeleton tiddler.  Everything worked, i.e. I was able to create a new 
tiddler with filled in tags and text.  However, I could not add fields. 
 When I tried to add a field with $(field1)$, I was rewarded with a 
Javascript Alert, illegal characters in field name.  I would venture to 
guess this changed since the 5.010 version.

Also (a minor detail, but) there appears to be an error in the New Tiddler 
Widget description tiddler, in the second table in the tags row, there 
is $(tag1}$.  I think it should be $(tag1)$.


On Wednesday, June 11, 2014 4:12:13 PM UTC-4, Stephan Hradek wrote:
>
> Seems to be a user error. I just tried my plugin with 5.0.12 for the first 
> time and it seems to work.
>
> Could you upload your wiki or a small non-working example somewhere to 
> take a look at it?
>

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[tw] [TW5] How to put backtick inside backticks

[Branimir Braykov]

I think I hit the escaping problem.
I want to put a backtick inside single backticks in my text so it becomes 
all pink and monospacedly formatted.
I tried html entities but didn't work
Is there a way to do it?

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[tw] Re: TW5: Problem Using Stephan Hradek's newtiddler plugin

[Matabele]

Hi Jonathan

On Tuesday, July 22, 2014 3:18:00 PM UTC+2, Jonathan Salles wrote:
 

>  When I tried to add a field with $(field1)$, I was rewarded with a 
> Javascript Alert, illegal characters in field name.  I would venture to 
> guess this changed since the 5.010 version.
>

It is unnecessary to create fields with the <$newtiddler> widget -- the 
template should contain fields with legal names (all lowercase letters, 
digits, dash, underscore and period.) It is the value for these fields that 
is substituted during creation for placeholders of the form 
$(value-for-field)$.

regards

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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki Hangout #55 on Tuesday 22nd July at 4pm BST

[Jeremy Ruston]

The hangout is about to start over at:

https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYeLMj6QR79mSnc1TIHskfRbtQJCWoD_t7SNuTufAg-xbR_JlQ

Shout if you have problems joining,

Best wishes

Jeremy



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>
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>
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>
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[tw] Re: [TW5] How do I put a list of links along the top?

[Daniel Gee]

Additional followup. How can I make a link in the top menu that looks like 
the other buttons, but is a direct link to a tiddler instead of opening a 
dropdown?

On Monday, July 21, 2014 10:36:57 PM UTC-6, Daniel Gee wrote:
>
> I'd like to have a list of links to the most important tiddlers along the 
> top of the page in TW5. Like on Reddit or Facebook or other sites. How 
> would I go about doing this in TW5?
>
> If possible, I'd like the links to be like the tag links on a tiddler, and 
> open dropdowns to pages in that category.
>

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[tw] Re: How to escape __ and //

[Mat]

>On Tuesday, July 22, 2014 1:30:06 PM UTC+2, Stephan Hradek wrote:
>You forgot to mention [twc] or [tw5] in the topic. I assume, this is twc… 
Someone else needs to jump in here.


Aha, if it is TWC, then you can use {{{ }}} to make it "code"

{{{
   svn://example.com 
   __stdcall
}}}

or

{{{   svn://example.com }}}
{{{   __stdcall}}}

<:-)

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[tw] Re: [TW5] How do I put a list of links along the top?

[Ton Gerner]

Hi Daniel,

Just add a link [[tiddler title]] to the $:/_topmenu tiddler and style it 
with something like:

.tw-topbar .tw-tiddlylink {
 color: white; 
 background-color: blue;
 border-radius: 2px;
 padding: 1px 1px 1px 1px;
}

Cheers,

Ton


On Tuesday, July 22, 2014 5:03:43 PM UTC+2, Daniel Gee wrote:
>
> Additional followup. How can I make a link in the top menu that looks like 
> the other buttons, but is a direct link to a tiddler instead of opening a 
> dropdown?
>
> On Monday, July 21, 2014 10:36:57 PM UTC-6, Daniel Gee wrote:
>>
>> I'd like to have a list of links to the most important tiddlers along the 
>> top of the page in TW5. Like on Reddit or Facebook or other sites. How 
>> would I go about doing this in TW5?
>>
>> If possible, I'd like the links to be like the tag links on a tiddler, 
>> and open dropdowns to pages in that category.
>>
>

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[tw] Re: can't save in Firefox (component returned failure code)

[olfried . youtube]

Am Mittwoch, 14. August 2013 10:05:40 UTC+2 schrieb apie...@googlemail.com:
>
>
> [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x80520001 
> (NS_ERROR_FILE_UNRECOGNIZED_PATH) [nsILocalFile.initWithPath]"  nsresult: 
> "0x80520001 (NS_ERROR_FILE_UNRECOGNIZED_PATH)"  location: "JS frame :: 
> chrome://tiddlyfox/content/overlay.js :: TiddlyFox.saveFile :: line 94"  
> data: no]
>
> I had the same problem with TW-Classic V2.6.2 to save the file on a samba 
share on my network. I fixed it.
Check out where you want to place your backup. I had set the location to 
"/backup" and or "backup/" wich doesn't work.
After just typing "backup" without slashes everything works perfect.

Hope this helps

OLI

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Re: [tw] [TW5] How to put backtick inside backticks

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Branimir

You can try using the HTML entity for backtick:

`something

The disadvantage is that the content of the  element will be wikified
-- that's why the HTML entity works. But it means that you need to be
careful to not include any text that will get inadvertantly wikified.

Best wishes

Jeremy



On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Branimir Braykov  wrote:

> I think I hit the escaping problem.
> I want to put a backtick inside single backticks in my text so it becomes
> all pink and monospacedly formatted.
> I tried html entities but didn't work
> Is there a way to do it?
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[tw] Re: [TW5] How do I put a list of links along the top?

[Daniel Gee]

Excellent. There seems to be quite the rabbit hole of CSS going on inside 
of a Tiddlywiki :D

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> I'd like to have a list of links to the most important tiddlers along the 
> top of the page in TW5. Like on Reddit or Facebook or other sites. How 
> would I go about doing this in TW5?
>
> If possible, I'd like the links to be like the tag links on a tiddler, and 
> open dropdowns to pages in that category.
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[tw] TOC question

[Shawn Chand]

Is there a way to make a drop down menu within a drop down menu? 
I tried doing it this way but it didn't really work out 

!!! <>
">>


Thanks,

Shawn

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[tw] Re: TOC question

[Alberto Molina]

Hi Shawn,

Is there a way to make a drop down menu within a drop down menu? 
>

You need to call the macro <> from inside the code of the 
macro. Something like that: 
\define toc-heading(caption,body)

stuff here…

<>

\end

I did that, even if not nicely (I need to refactor the code), in my 
http://tw5.scholars.tiddlyspot.com/
Look for the tiddler "ToC". It is tag driven instead of an explicit list if 
tiddlers.

Hope it's helpful.

Regards,

Alberto

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[tw] TW5 on Tiddlyspot, how? ...and dare I utter nodejs?

[Mat]

I'm hoping to create some good public templates for anyone to use while at 
the same time learn/experiment with TW5.

1) Are there more alternatives than Tiddlyspot for this (disregarding a 
server of my own)? Tiddlyspot is fantastic, I'm just asking to know if 
there exist other options.

2) How would I do this? On http://tiddlyspot.com/ there is no pre-made 
template to choose.

3) ...and dare I ask if it is possible to do it for TW5 nodejs?

4) ...and if (3) is not possible, is there any way to convert back and 
forth between TW5 regular and TWnodejs? ...or perhaps not back and forth 
but at least in one directoin so I could develop the template there and 
then import/convert it for my applications similar to upgrades?

Thank you!

<:-)

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[tw] Re: TW5 on Tiddlyspot, how? ...and dare I utter nodejs?

[Alberto Molina]

Hi Mat,

1) Are there more alternatives than Tiddlyspot for this (disregarding a 
> server of my own)? Tiddlyspot is fantastic, I'm just asking to know if 
> there exist other options.
>

I don't know for sure, but I think there aren't atm. TiddlyWeb 
 doesn't work with tw5, as far as I know (but I 
never tried). And Tank  is under development 
(maybe it works already, I didn't try).
 

> 2) How would I do this? On http://tiddlyspot.com/ there is no pre-made 
> template to choose.
>

First create an account with a "standard flavor". Then go to your tw5, open 
the contro panel, tab "saving", write your wiki name and password, and 
save. That will replace the online classic tiddlywiki with your current tw5.

Concerning 3) and 4), I can give no answer because I don't use nodejs.

Regards,

Alberto

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[tw] NEWBIE Questions

[ungozo]

Is there a place for newbies to go for basic questions?

I would like my Browser to go to my (single) tiddlywiki as a home page - 
but I am not sure where it is and if I should rename the file.

Thank you.


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[tw] Re: NEWBIE Questions

[PMario]

On Wednesday, July 23, 2014 2:45:28 AM UTC+2, ung...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Is there a place for newbies to go for basic questions?
>

Hi, You found the right place :)
 

> I would like my Browser to go to my (single) tiddlywiki as a home page - 
> but I am not sure where it is and if I should rename the file.
>

You just need to download an empty TW. 
Place it somewhere and define it at your homepage in the browser settings.
imo renaming would make sense.

With FireFox you can pin any tab, so if you open the browser, they will be 
loaded. 

-mario

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[tw] Re: NEWBIE Questions

[ungozo]

While I can see the various new files in my history - it tells me files not 
found - possibly  moved or deleted.  I am running Windows 8.1 and TWC

On Tuesday, July 22, 2014 8:45:28 PM UTC-4, ung...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Is there a place for newbies to go for basic questions?
>
> I would like my Browser to go to my (single) tiddlywiki as a home page - 
> but I am not sure where it is and if I should rename the file.
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] How to put backtick inside backticks

[PMario]

try your text with a double backtick at the beginning and the end:

`` test `backtick` ``

-mario

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[tw] Re: NEWBIE Questions

[PMario]

If you download TW classic, it downloads a zip container.
You need to unzip the stuff first, into a directory 

The browser "save as" function doesn't work. You need to use the button.

-mario

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[tw] Re: TW5 TiddlyWiki processing while typing?

[PMario]

Hi Mark,
Which TW version do you use?
-m

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