Re: [tw] Best Practices?

[Alex Hough]

Scott,

You question makes me. Think of three others
1. Best practice for TiddlyWiki?
2. Best practice for making a personal extension to your brain?
3. Are 'best practices' useful in this environment?

Richard Veryhard raises concerns about best practices :
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/%7Erxv/kmoi/bestpractice.htm

Some personal suggestions
1) don't over customise your TiddlyWiki - you can find that this takes over
from your core activity, it's very addictive!
2) that said, maybe it's a vital excercise for designing a personal
extension to your brain
3) try to strike a balance when connecting. Don't over do it, don't under
do it  I think of 'requisite connectivity', and Asby's law of Requisite
Variety
4) TiddlyWiki and 'tiddling' is a bit like a yoga for the mind. A one time
I would be trying to wikify every meeting, every idea, every task, project
and next action. I don't anymore, but I think my brain has been altered by
the process. TiddlyWiki and the 'TiddlyWiki Way' is kind of in my brain now.
5)  I've settled on a large sketch book and particular type of pens as my
primary ideas space. When meeting people or being in workshops, I've
noticed that the computer or iPad adversely affects the personal
communication and sends out signals which don't help me!

Best wishes

Alex

On Sunday, 28 September 2014, Scott Kingery 
wrote:

> Jeremy,
> Nice! Thanks.
>
> On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Jeremy Ruston  > wrote:
>
>> Hi Scott
>>
>> Bill Seitz, a user of TiddlySpace, wrote a book that you may find useful:
>>
>>
>> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hack-Your-Life-Private-Notebook-ebook/dp/B00HHJA5JS
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 10:16 PM, Scott Kingery <
>> techlifeblog...@gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Not necessarily TW specific, but has anyone written or have a good link
>>> to best practices to wiki organization?
>>>
>>> Thanks
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[tw] Feature Request

[aamaadmi]

Like in wikipedia , when you create / edit a page , it shows available 
symbols/wikiText you can apply , can this be implemented in tiddlywiki?

ps. i prefer to call " tiddly card/s" instead of tiddler/s

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[tw] [TW5] crap, now I broke my wiki!

[Drew O'Bannon]

>
> undefined:7
> ],
> ^
> SyntaxError: Unexpected token ]
> at Object.parse (native)
> at $tw.loadWikiTiddlers (C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\npm\
> node_modules\ti
> ddlywiki\boot\boot.js:1560:19)
> at $tw.loadTiddlersNode (C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\npm\
> node_modules\ti
> ddlywiki\boot\boot.js:1651:27)
> at $tw.boot.startup (C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\npm\
> node_modules\tiddly
> wiki\boot\boot.js:1757:7)
> at C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\npm\node_modules\tiddlywiki\boot\
> boot.js:
> 1897:12
> at $tw.boot.decryptEncryptedTiddlers (C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\
> Roaming\npm\no
> de_modules\tiddlywiki\boot\boot.js:1366:2)
> at $tw.boot.boot (C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\npm\node_modules\
> tiddlywik
> i\boot\boot.js:1895:11)
> at Object. (C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\npm\
> node_modules\tidd
> lywiki\tiddlywiki.js:13:10)
> at Module._compile (module.js:456:26)
> at Object.Module._extensions..js (module.js:474:10)
>


That's what appears in the commandline. it appeared all of a sudden when I 
was deleting a "plugin"(copy pasted from here 
. I manually added and 
manually deleted it's association in the tiddlywiki.info file.

did any of these two cause the error? how to fix it?

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Re: [tw] Best Practices?

[Scott Kingery]

Jeremy,
Nice! Thanks.

On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Jeremy Ruston 
wrote:

> Hi Scott
>
> Bill Seitz, a user of TiddlySpace, wrote a book that you may find useful:
>
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hack-Your-Life-Private-Notebook-ebook/dp/B00HHJA5JS
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 10:16 PM, Scott Kingery  > wrote:
>
>> Not necessarily TW specific, but has anyone written or have a good link
>> to best practices to wiki organization?
>>
>> Thanks
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[tw] [TW5] questions about a node.js + dropbox setup

[Drew O'Bannon]

hello. Migratee from a certain other OSS personal wiki software here.

Basically, I'd like to ask a few things about the aforementioned setup,

The folder in question is shared between me and a friend. it's on 
D:/folder/Dropbox/Shared/Project/wikis/wikiname/MyTW
not the actual names, but is the exact path.

So far, I've noticed that the TW node.js makes is a folder with different 
files for it tiddles.
opening the tid files via Waterfox (64 bit FF) does nothing despite having 
tiddlefox installed.

Currently, I'm in the process of migrating stuff from the other wiki so I'm 
asking these questions in advance while i move the goods to TW .
So I apologize for any redundancy and/or captain-obvious level questions.

anyway:

   - given it's in dropbox, can I open it in a different computer WITHOUT 
   node.js?
  - likewise, can I edit it WITHOUT n.js?
   - WITHOUT n.js, could my friend edit/open it on his side?
   - IF i have dropbox on an android WITHOUT njs, can i edit/open the wiki 
   from it?
  - did a bit of research, seems that node.js can be installed on 
  android. but it ain't easy,
  - Whenever the server is up for editing (i.e. the localhost:port 
   opens the wiki) could I access it from a different computer/android device 
   connected under the same wifi network?
  - if so how?
   


   - If edit/open is not possible WITHOUT node.js. does the import feature 
   allow me to import only specific tiddles?
  - e.g. MyTW with only tiddle TableOfContents imported.
   - If I were to move to a singlefile wiki, how do i make sure I don't 
   lose data?(aside from the backup a lot advice in the website.)
  - if it's just "backing up a lot", is dropbox's versions enough?
   - also, If I were to uninstall node.js(i.e, if the NJS wiki can't be 
   opened without NJS), does it leave any stuff behind, i.e. the TW "plugin"?
   
Those are the questions for now. I'll be off moving stuff.

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[tw] TiddlyWiki Hangout #63 on October 7th at 4pm BST

[Jeremy Ruston]

You are invited to join our regular freewheeling discussion about the
latest developments in the world of TiddlyWiki at 4pm BST on Tuesday
October 7th:

https://plus.google.com/events/cumlfpjejmdoqp9rtntiajb19ac

You can ask questions to be answered in the hangout by clicking the Q&A
button on the video preview.

Note that the start time is 4pm British Summer Time, which is one hour
ahead of GMT and UTC.

Here's a playlist of previous hangouts:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVT_2PPd-1p34gGCQ5qpwC8QdykxVAI3u

Best wishes

Jeremy.

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Re: [tw] Best Practices?

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Scott

Bill Seitz, a user of TiddlySpace, wrote a book that you may find useful:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hack-Your-Life-Private-Notebook-ebook/dp/B00HHJA5JS

Best wishes

Jeremy


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> Not necessarily TW specific, but has anyone written or have a good link to
> best practices to wiki organization?
>
> Thanks
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[tw] Re: (TW5) how to show list filter results in three columns

[steve]

Mario:

Thanks for the description of how to use macros.  It will be a big help 
with functions that I want to bring over from my TWC content.

Steve

On Sunday, September 28, 2014 9:05:08 AM UTC-4, PMario wrote:
>
> On Sunday, September 28, 2014 2:23:57 PM UTC+2, steve wrote:
>>
>> Mario: I couldn't get your approach to work. The problem is that I don't 
>> know where to put (or how to tag) the definition of myList-links.
>>
>
> \define myList-links(filter,type:"ul",
>   ...code
> \end
>
> With TW this is called a macro definition. It needs to be at the start of 
> a tiddler. 
> If it is in the same tiddler as the macro call eg: <>. It is called 
> a local macro
>
> see: http://tiddlywiki.com/#Macros%20in%20WikiText
>
>
> If you want it to be a "global macro" you'll need to use a tiddler eg: 
> MyListMacroDefinition
> copy the code into the tiddler
> tag it with: $:/tags/Macro
>
> Global macros can be used in every tiddler
>
> -mario
>

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[tw] Best Practices?

[Scott Kingery]

Not necessarily TW specific, but has anyone written or have a good link to 
best practices to wiki organization?

Thanks

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Possible to show Title in Vertical Tabs?

[Jeremy Ruston]

HI Stephan

On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Stephan Hradek 
wrote:

> So it's not a bug, neither with the <$list> (the one I reported), nor with
> the template for tabs (as you need to use explicitly crafted templates for
> this) but a documentation issue?
>

I think both the issues you've raised are quite confusing and unexpected.

The tabs macro issue with the currentTiddler is probably a mistake: I think
it would have been better for the tabs macro to take a "variable" parameter
that defaults to "currentTiddler". Sadly, it's too late to change now. We
could add the "variable" parameter, but it would have to default to
"currentTab" for backwards compatibility.

Actually, there is a potential way to resolve it: we could switch to a new
convention and reimplement the tabs macro as "tg-macro" (g === "global
macro", to distinguish from "tm-*" which is used for messages). The new
version could have a different default for the "variable" parameter. But I
think ultimately that makes for even more confusion.

Best wishes

Jeremy


>
> Fair enough.
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[tw] Re: (TW5) how to show list filter results in three columns

[Julio Peña]

Hello Mario and all,

@Mario: Thanks for the suggestion on the class naming convention.
Once I get a little time I will continue cleaning up my Tiddlywiki and 
rename my classes accordingly.

@steve: Glad I could be of some help.


Best regards,

Julio


On Sunday, September 28, 2014 4:58:24 AM UTC-4, PMario wrote:
>
> I think instead of using tc-three-columns we should use uc-three-columns
>
> The reason is: tc- means TiddlyWiki Class ... so it suggests, to be a core 
> class. But it isn't. This will cause support problems in the future. 
>
> uc .. User Class.
>
> so imo use: 
>
> <>
>
> in your Stylesheet tiddler use:
>
> .uc-three-columns {
> vertical-align:top;
> display:block; 
> column-count:3;
> -moz-column-count:3; 
> -webkit-column-count:3;
> }
>
>
> IMO this should be best practice. ... So we should probably mention it in 
> the docs. 
>
> have fun!
> mario
>

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[tw] Re: (TW5) how to show list filter results in three columns

[PMario]

On Sunday, September 28, 2014 2:23:57 PM UTC+2, steve wrote:
>
> Mario: I couldn't get your approach to work. The problem is that I don't 
> know where to put (or how to tag) the definition of myList-links.
>

\define myList-links(filter,type:"ul",
  ...code
\end

With TW this is called a macro definition. It needs to be at the start of a 
tiddler. 
If it is in the same tiddler as the macro call eg: <>. It is called 
a local macro

see: http://tiddlywiki.com/#Macros%20in%20WikiText


If you want it to be a "global macro" you'll need to use a tiddler eg: 
MyListMacroDefinition
copy the code into the tiddler
tag it with: $:/tags/Macro

Global macros can be used in every tiddler

-mario

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[tw] Re: (TW5) how to show list filter results in three columns

[steve]

I'm trying out all of the suggestions (with some difficulty as I am new to 
TW5)

Julio: Both of your suggestions worked for me.
Mario: I couldn't get your approach to work. The problem is that I don't 
know where to put (or how to tag) the definition of myList-links.
Jeremy: I'll be on the lookout for the next version.

Thanks to all that responded.  I am a bit awed that my request appears to 
have led to a small change in TW5 (albeit quite unconsciously on my part)
Meanwhile, I'll do more reading.

Steve

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Possible to show Title in Vertical Tabs?

[Stephan Hradek]

So it's not a bug, neither with the <$list> (the one I reported), nor with 
the template for tabs (as you need to use explicitly crafted templates for 
this) but a documentation issue?

Fair enough.

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Possible to show Title in Vertical Tabs?

[Jeremy Ruston]

The issue here is that you are expecting the tab contents to be transcluded
with the currentTiddler variable set to the tiddler containing the tab
content.

However, in fact, the tabs macro doesn't change the currentTiddler at all.
The reason is to support things like the tabs in the tiddlerInfo panel;
there we want the tab content to have access to the currentTiddler
prevailing at the point that the tabs macro is invoked. Instead, the
currentTab variable is available with the title of the tiddler containing
the tab content.

That is why if you look at the ReleaseTemplate tiddler on tiddlywiki.com
you'll see that it explicitly references the "currentTab":

<$view tiddler=<> field="title"/>

I've made a small update to the docs for 5.1.2 to clarify this behaviour.

Best wishes

Jeremy


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> I meant: To fix the BUG, not the "buf" ;)
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[tw] Re: [TW5] Or-ing tags in a list filter

[Branimir Braykov]

Thank You! Thank You! Thank You!
:-)

On Sunday, September 28, 2014 2:03:17 PM UTC+3, Stephan Hradek wrote:
>
> You HAVE TO put double quotes. You missed the additional, required [] 
> around sort.
>
> <$list filter="[tag[A]] [tag[B]] [tag[C]] +[sort[title]]">
>
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[tw] Re: [TW5] Or-ing tags in a list filter

[Stephan Hradek]

You HAVE TO put double quotes. You missed the additional, required [] 
around sort.

<$list filter="[tag[A]] [tag[B]] [tag[C]] +[sort[title]]">


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[tw] [TW5] Or-ing tags in a list filter

[Branimir Braykov]

Hi,
I am trying to list all tiddlers which have either tag A or tag B or tag C. 
But only tag A shows up in my list.
This is what I am doing (following the documentation):

> <$list filter=[tag[A]] [tag[B]] [tag[C]] +sort[title]>
>
>   <$link to={{!!title}}><$view field=title/>
>
> 

 
If I put double quotes around the filter, it gives me this error:
Filter error: Missing [ in filter expression 


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[tw] Re: (TW5) how to show list filter results in three columns

[PMario]

On Sunday, September 28, 2014 10:49:56 AM UTC+2, PMario wrote:
>
> I did a pull request: https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/918
> We will need to wait, what Jeremy says. 
>

@ Steve,

The pull request was merged. So in the next version it will be possible to 
write: 

<>   

Which imo looks much cleaner. 
In the meantime you can use my myList-links workaround. 

have fun!
mario

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Possible to show Title in Vertical Tabs?

[Jeremy Ruston]

I'm investigating this issue now. In the meantime I would strongly recommend 
not to edit the shadow tiddler "$:/core/macros/tabs". Instead copy the 
definition to another tiddler and give it a new name instead of "tabs".


Best wishes




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On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 7:54 AM, Stephan Hradek 
wrote:

> I meant: To fix the BUG, not the "buf" ;)
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[tw] Re: [TW5] Possible to show Title in Vertical Tabs?

[James]

Thanks.  It works. :)

On Sunday, 28 September 2014 14:54:02 UTC+8, Stephan Hradek wrote:
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> I meant: To fix the BUG, not the "buf" ;)
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Re: [tw] Re: (TW5) how to show list filter results in three columns

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Mario

> IMO this should be best practice. ... So we should probably mention it in
the docs.

Good idea; can you do a pull request? I guess we should change the classes
defined in tw5.com to use `uc-*`

Best wishes

Jeremy

On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 9:58 AM, PMario  wrote:

> I think instead of using tc-three-columns we should use uc-three-columns
>
> The reason is: tc- means TiddlyWiki Class ... so it suggests, to be a core
> class. But it isn't. This will cause support problems in the future.
>
> uc .. User Class.
>
> so imo use:
>
> <>
>
> in your Stylesheet tiddler use:
>
> .uc-three-columns {
> vertical-align:top;
> display:block;
> column-count:3;
> -moz-column-count:3;
> -webkit-column-count:3;
> }
>
>
> IMO this should be best practice. ... So we should probably mention it in
> the docs.
>
> have fun!
> mario
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[tw] Re: (TW5) how to show list filter results in three columns

[PMario]

I think instead of using tc-three-columns we should use uc-three-columns

The reason is: tc- means TiddlyWiki Class ... so it suggests, to be a core 
class. But it isn't. This will cause support problems in the future. 

uc .. User Class.

so imo use: 

<>

in your Stylesheet tiddler use:

.uc-three-columns {
vertical-align:top;
display:block; 
column-count:3;
-moz-column-count:3; 
-webkit-column-count:3;
}


IMO this should be best practice. ... So we should probably mention it in 
the docs. 

have fun!
mario

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[tw] Re: (TW5) how to show list filter results in three columns

[PMario]

I did a pull request: https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/918
We will need to wait, what Jeremy says. 

have fun!
mario

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[tw] Re: [tw5] using the list[] filter operator with a variable or string rather than a field

[Eric Shulman]

On Sunday, September 28, 2014 1:10:17 AM UTC-7, Mark Brown wrote:
>
> The list[] filter operator allows me to obtain a set of tiddlers from a 
> field. For example: 
> <$list filter="[list[myTiddler!!myField]]">
> gives me back "tiddlerA tiddlerB tiddlerC". This is a fantastic feature. 
>
 

> But, if the list is in an input to a macro, for example: 
> <>
> how might I get the list[] operator to parse that variable? 
>
> The following does NOT work
> \define myListMacro(myList:"") <$list filter="[list[$myList$]]">
>

Since you are passing in a literal list of tiddlers, you don't need to use 
the [list[...]] operator in the filter.  Just embed the list as is, like 
this:
\define myListMacro(myList:"") <$list filter="$myList$">

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[tw] Re: (TW5) how to show list filter results in three columns

[PMario]

try:

\define myList-links(filter,type:"ul",subtype:"li", class)
<$type$ class="$class$">
<$list filter="$filter$">
<$subtype$>
<$link to={{!!title}}>
<$view field="title"/>




\end

<>


See the new name:  ... I'll create a pull request. So may be Jeremy pulls 
it into the core (may be!). IMO it is a very common use case and a 100% hit 
for an issue. 
There is an explanation, why your @@ version doesn't work. But explaining 
it will take more time, than creating the pull request. ... So may be later.

-mario

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[tw] [tw5] using the list[] filter operator with a variable or string rather than a field

[Mark Brown]

Hi all, 

Looking for some some advice: 


The list[] filter operator allows me to obtain a set of tiddlers from a 
field. For example: 

If myTiddler!!myField = "tiddlerA tiddlerB tiddlerC" 

then

<$list filter="[list[myTiddler!!myField]]">

gives me back "tiddlerA tiddlerB tiddlerC". This is a fantastic feature. 


But, if the list is in an input to a macro, for example: 

<>

how might I get the list[] operator to parse that variable? 


The following does NOT work

\define myListMacro(myList:"") <$list filter="[list[$myList$]]">

 

It seems like the list[] forces you to use indirection (i.e., point to a 
field that has a space-separated list) whereas in some cases you may just 
want to supply that list more directly.

Know of any workarounds?

Or how could I change the list operator to achieve this? 

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[tw] Re: (TW5) how to show list filter results in three columns

[Julio Peña]

This also works (sorry double post)

@@.threecolumns <> @@

Just doesn't look quite right.

Take a look at my testing [1]


[1] http://jpentw5.tiddlyspot.com/


Julio

On Sunday, September 28, 2014 2:30:53 AM UTC-4, Julio Peña wrote:
>
> Hello steve.
>
> This could almost work:
>
> 
> <>
> 
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Julio
>
>
> On Saturday, September 27, 2014 4:09:09 PM UTC-4, steve wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> I am trying to organize the results from a list filter into three 
>> columns. I tried
>>
>> @@.threecolumns
>> <>
>> @@
>>
>> whereas the following worked
>>
>> @@.threecolumns
>> * text
>> * text 
>> * text
>> * etc
>> @@
>>
>>
>> The result is that the list is in a single column.
>>
>> I used to be able to do this in TWC  with something like
>>
>> {{{
>>
>> {{threecolumns{
>> <>   etc
>>   etc
>> >>
>> }}}
>>
>>
>> Steve Wharton
>>
>>

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