date:20150523

Hi Ron

When running TiddlyWiki in the client-server configuration under Node.js
you don't need to manually click the save changes button. Each tiddler is
saved automatically as you edit it (including drafts). Clicking the save
changes button downloads a standalone snapshot of your content (which can
be useful for eg posting to a public website).

Best wishes

Jeremy.

On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 7:20 PM, Ron Poulin rrpou...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

Version 5.1.8 has a little quirk that I would like to run by everyone
before submitting a bug report. After installing it in a NodeJs
environment, I noticed that when hitting the save button, the wiky saves
itself on the server as it should and tiddlywiki puts out an informational
message indicating the save. However, the browser goes into a download
dialogue.

Is this something normal?

Ron

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[tw] Re: [TW5] How to add the alt attribute in an image link macro?

2015-05-23 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

I think you want

alt=$alt$

Without knowing where your actual image is located or seeing your file
paths, I can't comment on the missing image. Make sure your image is in a
subdirectory called images immediately below your TW file. My version
with my directory structure and images worked.

HTH
Mark

On Friday, May 22, 2015 at 10:44:59 PM UTC-7, Suzanne McHale wrote:

I have been trying to add the alt=[some text] attribute to my image
thumbnail links for accessibility purposes (as opposed to the tooltip
text, which in html code is title=[some text]), but nothing seems to be
working - when I save the tiddler, the alt text is not there. Ideally I
would like to include it in the image link macro I use (as described here
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/tiddlywiki/JU6yf1MNDHM/otpA1fDTlZgJ)
if possible, but nothing I have tried is working, such as:

\define imageLink(url,image,alt)
a href=images/$url$ target=_self[img alt=$title$ [$image$]]/a
\end

I was trying to use the tooltip as the alt image, but it gets messed up
when rendered in the html code, and the image does not display:

a target=_self href=images/image.jpgimg alt=$title$ title=image
src=images/tn-image.jpg/a

I have no idea what I am doing, so I'm stuck!

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[tw] How to show a toolbar button *only in tiddlers tagged with some tag?

Hi TwWizards

I'm trying to hide a toolbar button from all tiddlers *not* tagged with: 
vislisteknap using the list filter widget.
If no tiddlers are tagged with vislisteknap it *is* hidden - however if I 
tag just one tiddler with vislisteknap the button i visible in all 
tiddlers...

http://playground.tiddlyspot.com/#ListOfTitles:ListOfTitles%20ExecuteListOfTitles

Cheers Måns Mårtensson

ExecuteListOfTitles http://playground.tiddlyspot.com/#ExecuteListOfTitles:

\define listButtonTags()
[[$(currentTiddlerTag)$]] $(listButtonTags)$
\end
\define listButton()
$list filter=[tag[vislisteknap]]
$button tooltip='make new tiddlers from list - ONLY lists!!' 
class=tv-config-toolbar-class
$list filter=[tv-config-toolbar-iconsprefix[yes]]
{{$:/core/images/new-button}}{{$:/core/images/new-button}}
/$list
$list filter={{!!text}}
$action-setfield $tiddler={{!!title}} text=Kontaktgruppe: 
[[$(currentTiddlerTag)$]] tags=$(listButtonTags)$ 
kontaktgruppe=$(currentTiddlerTag)$/
/$list
/$button
/$list
\end
$set name=listButtonTags value={{ExecuteListOfTitles!!tagtemplate}}
$set name=currentTiddlerTag value=currentTiddler
listButton
/$set
/$set

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[tw] Re: How to show a toolbar button *only in tiddlers tagged with some tag?

An interesting thing to observe is the fact that when you click the toolbar 
button - only the list of the tagged tiddler is executed - however the tag 
(currentTiddler) and also the custom field kontaktgruppe (also 
currentTiddler) will change depending on which tiddler you 
invoked/clicked the toolbar button...

Maybe this behaviour is useful in another context?

Cheers Måns Mårtensson

Den lørdag den 23. maj 2015 kl. 21.56.18 UTC+2 skrev Måns:

 Hi TwWizards

 I'm trying to hide a toolbar button from all tiddlers *not* tagged with: 
 vislisteknap using the list filter widget.
 If no tiddlers are tagged with vislisteknap it *is* hidden - however if 
 I tag just one tiddler with vislisteknap the button i visible in all 
 tiddlers...


 http://playground.tiddlyspot.com/#ListOfTitles:ListOfTitles%20ExecuteListOfTitles

 Cheers Måns Mårtensson

 ExecuteListOfTitles 
 http://playground.tiddlyspot.com/#ExecuteListOfTitles:

 \define listButtonTags()
 [[$(currentTiddlerTag)$]] $(listButtonTags)$
 \end
 \define listButton()
 $list filter=[tag[vislisteknap]]
 $button tooltip='make new tiddlers from list - ONLY lists!!' 
 class=tv-config-toolbar-class
 $list filter=[tv-config-toolbar-iconsprefix[yes]]
 {{$:/core/images/new-button}}{{$:/core/images/new-button}}
 /$list
 $list filter={{!!text}}
 $action-setfield $tiddler={{!!title}} text=Kontaktgruppe: 
 [[$(currentTiddlerTag)$]] tags=$(listButtonTags)$ 
 kontaktgruppe=$(currentTiddlerTag)$/
 /$list
 /$button
 /$list
 \end
 $set name=listButtonTags value={{ExecuteListOfTitles!!tagtemplate}}
 $set name=currentTiddlerTag value=currentTiddler
 listButton
 /$set
 /$set



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Re: [tw] [TW5] An alternate mindmap/toc sort of thing

Hi Jed

That's very interesting, I'm sorry not to have asked you to demo it during
the hangout today. Simplifying the data in the demo might make it a bit
easier to see what's going on.

Best wishes

Jeremy.

On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 5:40 AM, Jed Carty inmyso...@gmail.com wrote:

I think that someone was asking for something like this during one of the
hangouts. It is like the table of contents but at each level only the
tiddlers that are tagged with the current tiddler and all of its ancestors
are displayed. It lets you do things like have both audio and
micro-controller stuff tagged with 16-bit, but if you went through the menu
going audio-16-bit only the 16 bit audio things will show up, and if you
go micro-controller-16-bit only the 16 bit microcontroller things show up.
It isn't perfect and I am sure there are some ways to improve it. I am
still looking at it. It currently uses the mobile menus type interface but
I think that I can make this work with the normal table of contents layout,
it will probably take a bit of effort.

There is a quick example/demo here
http://ooktech.com/jed/ExampleWikis/OtherMindMap/.

Sorry, this is a pretty incoherent description.

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Re: [tw] [TW5] One TW to Rule Them All

Hi Mat

As I mentioned on the other thread, the obstacle to this plan at the moment
is that it isn't possible to specify which saver and parameters are used
for a publish operation.

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/1S348N3rsAc/b3rDMyCSsZsJ

Best wishes

Jeremy.


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 The recent information from Jeremy on filtered saving
 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/1S348N3rsAc/rbXjCZRB9HYJ
 has given me hope to fulfill a long time dream; To be able to use one TW as
 a publishing central for my other TWs. You should probably read that linked
 post before the following.

 I always imagined a central TW with receiving surrouunding ones as
 exporting *individual* tiddlers from the central TW. While this, I guess,
 would be the optimal workflow, the filtered saving instead can allow to
 have several Publish buttons in the central TW, one for each of the
 peripheral TWs. It is IMO not perfect in that you fully overwrite the
 previous version of the peripherals which means you can't edit them
 individually (you *must* use the central one) and it probably makes it
 trickier (but still doable) to use different layouts etc for them. (It
 should be doable by including all layouts (CSS?) in the central one and
 then filter to save only the relevant one).

 Despite the drawbacks, I think a central TW could be very cool and I
 hope to do this for some TWs on *tiddlyspot*! I.e so that a tiddlyspot
 has multiple Publish buttons that to directly upload filtered variants to
 other tiddlyspots of mine. For instance you could run parallel blogs in
 this way, turning to different audiences and in the central TW simply tag
 posts with the relevant blogname.

 AFAI understand, this means combining the filtered saving
 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/1S348N3rsAc/rbXjCZRB9HYJ
 Publish button with the content in the save to tiddlyspot in
 Controlpanel, i.e: $:/core/ui/ControlPanel/Saving
 http://tiddlywiki.com/#%24%3A%2Fcore%2Fui%2FControlPanel%2FSaving


 ...but I have little clue how to do this and would really appreciate help.


 :-)




 -
 Below follows some code for the publish button and the save to
 tiddlyspot tiddler.


 The filtered saving Publish button

 $button
 $action-sendmessage $message=tm-download-file
 $param=title-of-your-template filename=index.html/
 Publish
 /$button




 Content of the save to tiddlyspot in Ctrlpanel;

 \define lingo-base() $:/language/ControlPanel/Saving/
 \define backupURL()
 http://$(userName)$.tiddlyspot.com/backup/
 \end
 \define backupLink()
 $reveal type=nomatch state=$:/UploadName text=
 $set name=userName value={{$:/UploadName}}
 $reveal type=match state=$:/UploadURL text=
 backupURL
 /$reveal
 $reveal type=nomatch state=$:/UploadURL text=
 $macrocall $name=resolvePath source={{$:/UploadBackupDir}}
 root={{$:/UploadURL}}
 /$reveal
 /$set
 /$reveal
 \end
 ! lingo TiddlySpot/Heading
 lingo TiddlySpot/Description
 |lingo TiddlySpot/UserName |$edit-text tiddler=$:/UploadName
 default= tag=input/ |
 |lingo TiddlySpot/Password |$password name=upload/ |
 |lingo TiddlySpot/Backups |backupLink |
 ''lingo TiddlySpot/Advanced/Heading''
 |lingo TiddlySpot/ServerURL  |$edit-text tiddler=$:/UploadURL
 default= tag=input/ |
 |lingo TiddlySpot/Filename |$edit-text tiddler=$:/UploadFilename
 default=index.html tag=input/ |
 |lingo TiddlySpot/UploadDir |$edit-text tiddler=$:/UploadDir
 default=. tag=input/ |
 |lingo TiddlySpot/BackupDir |$edit-text tiddler=$:/UploadBackupDir
 default=. tag=input/ |
 lingo TiddlySpot/Hint


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Re: [tw] [TW5] Save under NodeJS configuration

2015-05-23 Thread Ron Poulin

Jeremy,

Thanks, that clarifies what appeared to be an undesirable behavior.

Best,
Ron

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Hi Ron

Best wishes

Jeremy.

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Hi,

Is this something normal?

Ron

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Can I create a bunch of tiddlers based on list?

Hello Mans, 

Yes, it is possible to have a script that reads the sheet and creates a Json 
output. I don't know the best way to export that data: giving you the option 
to copy it? As a file in your drive folder? As am extra cell in some other 
sheet? 

The easiest way to process the shet would be to represent a tiddler per row and 
make each colum be a field. 

  it creates the extra layer needed for it to be a standalone JSON tiddler 
  which provides tiddlers as shadows

Sorry, I don't understand this requirement. For me a Json tiddler is a Json 
tiddler,the result is the same. The only thing that determines if it is a 
plugin or not are the field's the tiddler has. 

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Re: [tw] [tw5] Hide tiddlers from public view

2015-05-23 Thread Mat



 @Jeremy

 

 The ticket for this should be something like Allow saver to be specified 
 for download.


Thank you. Created #1755 
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/1755

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Can I create a bunch of tiddlers based on list?

How many rows are we talking about? If there are so many I don't think TW can 
handle it neither. 

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[tw] Tiddly-Khan?

2015-05-23 Thread RichardWilliamSmith

Hi All,

As part of my work with Ed Dixon's Team-Tiddly I am working on building a 
TW front-end to the Khan-academy resources. Our goal is to demonstrate how 
TW can be used to package educational materials for offline study with 
periodic online syncing (Danielo's recent work with couchdb is of 
particular interest in this regard). Eventually we want to get it talking 
directly to next-gen learning management systems using the xAPI.

As a start, I was able to ingest the meta-data for all of the KA videos and 
package it into a TW. viz;

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/83055414/KhanAcademy.html

There are ~6,500 videos in this file and the idea is that teachers will be 
able to select the videos they want, along with exercises etc. and package 
them into a deliverable for their students. Each video will then have 
attached tiddlers for taking notes - handwritten and/or typed, 
exercsises/quizzes and eventually functionality for communicating with the 
teacher and other students. For example, we imagine that students will be 
able to send questions to the teacher, time-stamped with the place in a 
video that the question relates to and that students will be able to send 
notes about the content to each other and so build a community 
knowledge-base around the material.

Ed works with a company called Learning Equality who currently maintain a 
product called KA-Lite (https://learningequality.org/ka-lite/) which 
creates a local server and pulls content down to it from the Khan servers 
(meaning overall lower bandwidth requirements for continued use of the 
materials) and eventually I would like to look at integrating with their 
solution too.

If we make something as useful as I suspect we can then I intend to show it 
to the folks at Khan Academy - hopefully this will be a good way to 
demonstrate the awesome capabilities of TiddlyWiki and get more people 
using it.

If you'd like to know more or want to help in any way, drop me a line.

Regards,
Richard

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Re: [tw] Re: How to link to tiddlers containing square brackets in their names

2015-05-23 Thread Mehrdad Mirreza

Thank you for introducing those advanced techniques. I'll try them out and
probably it solves my problem on a more elegant way than I intended
initially.
It still remains an issue though, that we need to be able to escape special
characters in tiddler names or generally anywhere. TW is or has a kind of
programming language and any programming language needs an escaping syntax.
Am 23.05.2015 00:04 schrieb PMario pmari...@gmail.com:

E.g. the content of [myBracketTiddler] is:

$list filter=[tag[myBracketTiddler]]/

simplified version

list-links filter:[tag{!!title}] see:
http://tiddlywiki.com/#TextReference

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Re: [tw] Re: [Hype] Multiple wiki sync thanks to couchdb

According to couchdb documentation:

Note that the *stub:true* attribute denotes that this is not the complete 
 attachment. Also, note the length attribute added automatically. When you 
 update the document you must include the attachment stubs or CouchDB will 
 delete the attachment.


So we have to do is to properly manage the attachment field 

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[tw] Re: Externally import tiddlers

2015-05-23 Thread Neil Griffin

Richard,

My python module which Danielo sent the link to will allow you to do what 
you want as long as you can write a little python script.  If you prefer 
using the command line directly, you might still want to look at how my 
code is writing data into the TiddyWiki html file as you might be able to 
adapt the approach to a different language.

Neil.


On Friday, 22 May 2015 19:51:04 UTC+1, Richard Hopkins-Lutz wrote:

 Hmm I was hoping to do it via a script on the command line and avoid the 
 drag and drop method. This would let me use it to also export items from a 
 DB into tiddlers.



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Re: [tw] [tw5] Hide tiddlers from public view

Hi Mat

The problem here is that there is no way to stipulate which saver should be
used for the download; TiddlyWiki always chooses the highest priority saver
that has the prerequisites to run.

So, one ought to be able to do something like this:

button
$action-sendmessage $message=tm-download-file
$param=title-of-your-template filename=index.html saver=upload/
Publish
/$button

The ticket for this should be something like Allow saver to be specified
for download.

Best wishes

Jeremy.

On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 6:24 PM, Mat matiasg...@gmail.com wrote:

@Jeremy - you're probably the only one who can answer this anyway so I'm
continuing in this thread:

I just posted One TW to Rule Them All
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/tiddlywiki/cDx5B8KAKpg
where
I describe an idea to use one central TW as a publishing central to other
TWs. While that is a wish, I just want to mention that the basic question
there is relevant also for the simpler use case in this thread. Your
brilliant solution provided above, has the drawback for a tiddlyspot hosted
TW in that it downloads the tiddlyspot TW to the local computer instead of
uploading to a parallel tiddlyspot. I've found this adds several extra
workflow steps and requires a place to store the local TW.

With your recent encouragement to let people come with issues and
suggestions via tiddlyspot (as an alternative to github) it is very useful
to be able to set up *two* tiddlyspots; one for messing around with and
the other to which you export a filtered and cleaned up result with the
final proposal. For very simple single tiddler issues this is overkill
but when it gets just a bit more complex I've found it useful.

(Hm, maybe it would even work as a way to delete a filtered set of
tiddlers... uploading the filtered current TW to it's own tiddlyspot.)

If you have a chance to take a look at the issue, i.e a Publish button to
upload the filtered tw directly to tiddlyspot, then it would be great!

Thank you!!!

:-)

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Re: [tw] Re: [Hype] Multiple wiki sync thanks to couchdb

Here is the github ticket for fixing the attachment problem:

https://github.com/wshallum/couchadaptor/issues/11#issuecomment-104886226

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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki Hangout #86 will be on Saturday 23rd May at 1pm BST

TiddlyWiki Hangout #86 is about to start.

Watch and post questions at:

https://plus.google.com/events/ctas9g55ko0dl9i2k2h4ng9bb0c

Or join at:

https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYeS7nUgFZf5PhXLIMxePgrDdbb4Div7nshV9DPE9nRY11aiRA

Best wishes

Jeremy

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wrote:

 TiddlyWiki Hangout #86 will be tomorrow, Saturday 23rd May at 1pm BST:

 https://plus.google.com/events/ctas9g55ko0dl9i2k2h4ng9bb0c

 I've created a TiddlySpot wiki for sharing links etc for the hangout:

 http://hangout-86.tiddlyspot.com/

 Reply here with any topics you'd like to see on the agenda.

 Best wishes

 Jeremy.

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[tw] Re: [Question] How out of sync should be notified?

Hello Andreas and Mat,

Thanks for your feedback.
At first I also though about something like Andreas have pointed. But then I
realized that since this is a button it could be hidden by the user (deselect
it in the toolbar). I don't know why but at first I saw this like a
disadvantage, now with Matt's feedback I see it like a plus. With my first
idea, just two states, synced and not synced, I realized that in fact I was
replicating TW save button,that's why I thought about using it. Now I see that
idea like an error.

Today I have remembered that I did something similar for tiddlydrive before. So
here is what I think it's best:
* having a button with a cloud ☁ icon that mimics TW stylesheet.
* Different states are represented with different small icons over the cloud
icon.
* two arrows in a circle for sync in progress, a tick ✅ for sync complete,
something else for out of sync (?) and maybe an X in a circle for version
collisions.

With this setup it does not attract your attention and you decide if you want
to hide it or not in the control panel. Also it provides more information than
just three colors.

What do you think?

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Can I create a bunch of tiddlers based on list?

Hi Richard

Thank you very much for taking your time to show how you do it :-)
Very helpfull!
Now I will need to do some experiments.

Is it also possible to create a master JSON tiddler/file which will be
imported as a single tiddler where all defined tiddlers will exist/behave
like shadow tiddlers?

I guess what I'm asking is how to turn the resulting JSON file into a
plugin...

When I look at the $:/core tiddler it seems that all there is needed is one
extra top layer:
{
tiddlers: {
TiddlerTitle: {
title: TiddlerTitle,
type: text/vnd.tiddlywiki,
text: Tiddler text with \n linebreaks
},
NewTiddlerTitle: { ... etc...

If my assumption is correct it should be fairly easy to create a spredsheet
like your's and make the resulting JSON file create shadow tiddlers.

If this is possible I will maintain/update these shadow tiddlers with
Andreas' Tinka plugin - and be able to import all these tiddlers into other
TWs as if they were part of a plugin..

Am I on the right track?

Cheers Måns Mårtensson

Den lørdag den 23. maj 2015 kl. 05.20.38 UTC+2 skrev Richard Smith:

Hi Mans,

Starting with a spreadsheet - data in colums, no headers - put a blank
column inbetween each, starting at the beginning and, in the top cell, add
little snippets like this...

{ text:

so that, as a whole, a single line of the spreadsheet reads as a valid
json entry, with a comma at the end, and 'fill' down the sheet, so it looks
like this...

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-r6SDMepHHYc/VV_wEguePqI/A_4/7SVc-hDx8tQ/s1600/Screen%2BShot%2B2015-05-23%2Bat%2B1.03.23%2Bpm.png
Then copy and paste the columns into a friendly text editor (not a
word-processor). When I do it I get some kind of 'tab' character that I
need to globally remove (search and replace all). I've highlighted it in
the top left of this screenshot.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-QjPOY0TnAtE/VV_xJNeyrQI/BAA/fY9NcKgSZtM/s1600/Screen%2BShot%2B2015-05-23%2Bat%2B1.08.06%2Bpm.png
Then I add opening and closing square brackets and save it as .json

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-79r35DvmyBQ/VV_xVzPCVGI/BAI/UpgR6pCPHqM/s1600/Screen%2BShot%2B2015-05-23%2Bat%2B1.08.34%2Bpm.png
Drag it into TW and it appears like a regular import.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-eFuxd_WxrIA/VV_xn2APjSI/BAQ/oKPJ7fFkhTY/s1600/Screen%2BShot%2B2015-05-23%2Bat%2B1.18.01%2Bpm.png
NB: if there's anything wrong with your json, you get a big red warning
but nothing breaks - but use a backup, obviously.

Regards,
Richard

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Re: [tw] Re: [Hype] Multiple wiki sync thanks to couchdb

2015-05-23 Thread Jean-Philippe Rutault

Thanks a lot. That's exactly the sort thing I was guessing. I'll continue 
playing and only add to say that this is a great implementation of 
tiddywiki sync since it allow now revision and attachment management. 

Le samedi 23 mai 2015 14:14:50 UTC+2, Danielo Rodríguez a écrit :

 Here is the github ticket for fixing the attachment problem: 

 https://github.com/wshallum/couchadaptor/issues/11#issuecomment-104886226

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Can I create a bunch of tiddlers based on list?

2015-05-23 Thread Richard Smith

Sounds good to me :)

 I hope you'll share if you get it working - very interesting

Regards,
Richard

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Can I create a bunch of tiddlers based on list?

Mans, if you are interested and you are using Google spreadsheet it is not 
difficulttto write an script to export the data of a sheet as Json or tiddler 
format. 

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Re: [tw] Re: How to link to tiddlers containing square brackets in their names

2015-05-23 Thread PMario

On Saturday, May 23, 2015 at 8:32:25 AM UTC+2, Mubed wrote:

It still remains an issue though, that we need to be able to escape
special characters in tiddler names or generally anywhere. TW is or has a
kind of programming language and any programming language needs an escaping
syntax.

There have been some discussions on github already. I just linked one. You
may be able to find more [1]
Escaping is a 2 sided sword with TW. An escaping mechanism need to be multi
language and multi OS platform agnostic.

A tiddler can contain.

- wiki syntax which has the tilde already for suppressing ~CamelCase links
- html code is valid wiki syntax. So we can't use anything that looks like
valid html.
- there are CSS tiddlers that are wikified, to be able to use TW macros.
... We can't use something that looks like CSS
- backtick is used and valid from one ` to ```.
- Same is true for $../ {}{{}}{{{}}}, , , [][[]], $()$, $$$, @@
and combination of those.
- backslash \ is valid for windows paths.

So imo there is no indicator left, to be used as an escape indicator.

- btw: filters can have regexps as there parameters. So we will need to be
able to escape the escape sequence.

IMO implementing one more escape mechanism will bring us more pain as gain.

just my 2cents
-m

[1] https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/1648

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Re: [tw] [tw5] Hide tiddlers from public view

Something similar could be done to switch sync modules 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Can I create a bunch of tiddlers based on list?