Re: [tw] Re: My vision of a mobile theme

[infurnoape]

I've seen menus that respect the edge of the display area and flip arround to 
show fully onscreen. I'd like to help figure this out. I'll put the search 
beacons out.


Happy Connecting. Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S® 5

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From: Birthe C  
Date: 09/04/2015  5:40 PM  (GMT-07:00) 
To: TiddlyWiki  
Subject: Re: [tw] Re: My vision of a mobile theme 

Hi Andrew,

Your are right. It does help a little to list the more button before the other 
buttons but maybe not enough.


Birthe


Den fredag den 4. september 2015 kl. 21.48.51 UTC+2 skrev Andrew:

It'd be really nice if could see what more menu says.
Happy Connecting. Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S® 5

 Original message 
From: Birthe C  
Date: 09/04/2015  11:24 AM  (GMT-07:00) 
To: TiddlyWiki  
Subject: [tw] Re: My vision of a mobile theme 

Hi Danielo,

I have used your mobile menu ever since you told us about it, thank you very 
much. 
I am surprised you have not had more feed back on this and would love to hear 
or better have a look at how other people are using it.

 I am using it with a toptiddler toolbar like this 
http://toptiddler-mobile.tiddlyspot.com/.


Mvh. Birthe 








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Re: [tw] Re: My vision of a mobile theme

[Birthe C]

Hi Andrew,

Your are right. It does help a little to list the more button before the 
other buttons but maybe not enough.


Birthe


Den fredag den 4. september 2015 kl. 21.48.51 UTC+2 skrev Andrew:
>
> It'd be really nice if could see what more menu says.
>
> Happy Connecting. Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S® 5
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: Birthe C > 
> Date: 09/04/2015 11:24 AM (GMT-07:00) 
> To: TiddlyWiki > 
> Subject: [tw] Re: My vision of a mobile theme 
>
> Hi Danielo,
>
> I have used your mobile menu ever since you told us about it, thank you 
> very much. 
> I am surprised you have not had more feed back on this and would love to 
> hear or better have a look at how other people are using it.
>
>  I am using it with a toptiddler toolbar like this 
> http://toptiddler-mobile.tiddlyspot.com/. 
> 
>
>
> Mvh. Birthe 
>
>
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[tw] Re: AutoTag for TW5?

[Mat]

PMario wrote:

>What do you think?

For one, I think it is very interesting. But I think it deserves a separate 
thread. @pmario, do you think you could collect your ideas here and make a 
new thread? Ray's original OP here might be solved as a consequence from 
implementing a hashtag mechanism but it is a different topic IMO. I have 
some thoughts on what you're saying.

<:-)

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[tw] Re: Link Sentence to other Tiddler

[Mat]

@Marcel, I made this  which I believe is 
close to what you ask for. (I experimented with some stuff there but think 
version C is the best.)

(Just for the demo, it uses my SideEditor 
 so it's easy to manipulate stuff. Not 
necessary for the actual concept. Note it does not work well on macros 
because every little change refreshes the TW thus loosing focus of the 
sideeditor.)

Thus;

   - apply macro <> around the special part
   - Tag the relevant tiddlers some way to identify which tids are 
   concerned and tag the "refined" tiddler.
   

Note that the ".tc-tagged-sometag" is most easily used with tags consisting 
of no-special characters. See docs for styling individual tiddlers.

The whole thing relies on CSS trickery though and I expect there to be 
limitations with this approach. The real way to do it would probably be in 
JS using perhaps an ID for the segment and then 
http://reference.sitepoint.com/javascript/Document/getElementById

<:-)

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[tw] Re: My vision of a mobile theme

[Birthe C]

Hi Danielo,

I have used your mobile menu ever since you told us about it, thank you 
very much. 
I am surprised you have not had more feed back on this and would love to 
hear or better have a look at how other people are using it.

 I am using it with a toptiddler toolbar like this 
http://toptiddler-mobile.tiddlyspot.com/. 



Mvh. Birthe 




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[tw] Re: AutoTag for TW5?

[PMario]

There are still some thoughts: 
eg: 

the text #myTag ... produces a tiddler tag: #myTag
or
the text #myTag ... produces a tiddler tag: myTag

For me consistency suggests the first version, but I also think it looks 
ugly. And since we had a lot of requests to disable CamelCase WikiLinks 
this may be worth a discussion. 

What do you think?

-m






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[tw] Re: AutoTag for TW5?

[PMario]

On Friday, September 4, 2015 at 12:18:55 PM UTC+2, Mat wrote:
>
> On Friday, September 4, 2015 at 11:36:25 AM UTC+2, PMario wrote:
>>
>> I'm thinking about the possibility to use #hashtags. For TW the # sign is 
>> reserved for numbered lists, if it is at the start of the line. I don't 
>> know of any other special meaning. So there is no wikification rule, which 
>> would cause conflicts.
>>
>
>
> An addition to this: In practice, a numbered list is usually not with only 
> one item, at least not hard coded lists (as opposed to filter results). 
> Thus, for a plugin, one might wish to interpret even "# at start of line" 
> to be a #hashtag if it is not adjacent to other #rows.
>

IMO it's used for wordtags and not for sentences. So no spaces. see: 
https://support.twitter.com/articles/49309# and 
http://twitter.pbworks.com/w/page/1779812/Hashtags 

With TW we need to add a limit: "A hastag can't be at the start of the 
line, even if there are spaces in front of it."

 

> It should also be noted that the # sign appears in permalinks. ...
>

imo no problem. since the algorithm should / may be: 
# 
 
-m

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[tw] Re: AutoTag for TW5?

[Mat]

On Friday, September 4, 2015 at 11:36:25 AM UTC+2, PMario wrote:
>
> I'm thinking about the possibility to use #hashtags. For TW the # sign is 
> reserved for numbered lists, if it is at the start of the line. I don't 
> know of any other special meaning. So there is no wikification rule, which 
> would cause conflicts.
>


An addition to this: In practice, a numbered list is usually not with only 
one item, at least not hard coded lists (as opposed to filter results). 
Thus, for a plugin, one might wish to interpret even "# at start of line" 
to be a #hashtag if it is not adjacent to other #rows.

It should also be noted that the # sign appears in permalinks. Not sure of 
their exact role there actually. But it is very relevant because it is 
possible to directly insert a filter as part of a permalink. Thus you may 
wish to visit a remote TW and set the url to make it show all tiddlers 
tagged, or even just containing, #somethinginteresting - i.e without it 
interfering with the url itself. 

BTW, the latter idea is possibly relevant for building Content Communities 
, 
i.e TW's dedicated to specific topics that, ideally, are automatically 
generated by aggregating tiddlers or TWs that are marked out in some way - 
such as via hashtags.


<:-)


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[tw] Re: AutoTag for TW5?

[PMario]

On Friday, September 4, 2015 at 9:15:03 AM UTC+2, Ray Vermey wrote:
>
> Well the autotag plugin would recognize words in my riddler being Tags and 
> then tag the tiddler accordingly.
> So if i had a tag called Meeting , and then in my tiddler i would use the 
> word 'Meeting'  the autotag plugin would automatically
> tag the tiddler as Meeting.
>

I'm thinking about the possibility to use #hashtags. For TW the # sign is 
reserved for numbered lists, if it is at the start of the line. I don't 
know of any other special meaning. So there is no wikification rule, which 
would cause conflicts.

Also hashtags are well known from some established social sites ;)
 

> Pity that TW5 is not backwards compatible 
>

If TW5 would be compatible, we would have the same limits that TWclassic 
has, which just means stagnation. Nobody wants to have that!
 

> i like TWC more... 
>

That's your right ;)

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My proposal would be: 

 - The whole functionality is a plugin.

 - we add a new wikitext rule, that deals with #hashtags
   - which basically means it creates a similar output like the <> macro.

 - we add a new action widget: similar to the ActionSetFieldWidget eg: 
ActionSetHashTagsWidget
   - This functionality would be generic, so it can be used in very 
different ways.
   - This widget would allow every user to control the behaviour on the 
template level. 

 - we add a new EditTemplate, that uses the setHashtag widget with a new 
"save and tag" button
   - So it is not needed to click 2 buttons. 
   - The standard save button is not modified, so the user has the choice. 

 - we add a new "set #tag" button, that also works in view mode. 


What do you think?

have fun!
mario

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[tw] Re: AutoTag for TW5?

[Ray Vermey]

Well the autotag plugin would recognize words in my riddler being Tags and 
then tag the tiddler accordingly.
So if i had a tag called Meeting , and then in my tiddler i would use the 
word 'Meeting'  the autotag plugin would automatically
tag the tiddler as Meeting.

Pity that TW5 is not backwards compatible i like TWC more... 

Cheers

Ray

Op donderdag 3 september 2015 16:45:46 UTC+2 schreef Danielo Rodríguez:
>
> How will those keywords look like? Plain text? Are they defined at some 
> place? Maybe an specific format? 
>
> I think it would be easy to build something like that for tw5,but I would 
> like to have the complete specs. 
>

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