Re: [tw] Re: Strange transclusion of Tobias' Tiddler

[Alex Hough]

I see!

The extra space is removed when it is processed to be displayed in the
tiddler title.

thanks for clearing that up Eric!



Alex

On 22 June 2017 at 23:18, Eric Shulman  wrote:

> On Thursday, June 22, 2017 at 3:03:13 PM UTC-7, AlexHough wrote:
>>
>> I was looking how to embed a font, and found Tb5 has the solution --
>> http://tobibeer.github.io/tb5/#Using%20%20A%20Custom%20Font
>> Anyway, I pulled the tiddler into my TW from the Open Tab.
>> Then I tried to transclude it.
>> The transclusion doesn't work
>> However, if you clone the transculion it does
>> attached is a copy of the prerelease, showing the behaviour
>>
>
> There are TWO spaces between "Using" and "A" (note the %20%20 in the link
> above!)
>
> However, your transclusion only has ONE space in the reference... thus, it
> is a different title and does not match the title of the imported tiddler.
>
> -e
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[tw] Why Can't TW do Alarms?

[@TiddlyTweeter]

A few times in the last few months this has come up



* Why Can't TW do Alarms?*Is this intrinsic to its nature? OR could it be 
done?

There is some demand.


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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki is very irritating.

[@TiddlyTweeter]

this thread has been interesting. not least by an idea we are culpable of 
the sin of not doing the best. But that is not so. 

I can match Richards' ME and more with my MS, which is far, far worse. 

Its beside the point to try make an app optimal for a disabled condition 
UNLESS you have an explicit SOLVABLE aim. As far as I can see the ONLY 
really useful adaptations on-line for disability so far are around COLOUR 
vision. 

I don't see anyone making an MS (multiple sclerosis) or ME (chronic fatigue 
syndrome) specific solution yet. Or likely ever to. 

TBH I do NOT think my problem (with MS) should EVER be your problem. In 
fact I really should never have mentioned it. I'm only doing it in the 
context of this thread.

Nor do I think that someone with ME is any special case. They came into 
this as an adult. If they can't find their way around its PART OF *THEIR* 
MANAGEMENT ISSUE.

Life is shit. But let's be okay with what we have. MOST of it is nothing to 
do with TiddlyWiki.

Best wishes
Josiah

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[tw] Re: Using Tiddlywiki to track a very large volume of information

[RichardWilliamSmith]

I'm going to say 'no'. This is not a good idea in my opinion. You need 
something more robust to handle that kind of volume - maybe you could back 
TW with a database, a la TiddlyPouch/NoteSelf (search the forum if you're 
interested) but even then, I think you will be better off with something 
that's designed for your use-case. 

The people at Wordpress (Automattic) use Slack for a similar (?) 
purpose: https://make.wordpress.org/chat/

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[tw] Using Tiddlywiki to track a very large volume of information

[Matt Tracy]

I work for a regional multiservice operator in the wireless department. We're 
looking for a way to easily track and search issues (including historical views 
post-implementation)  for anyone in the company without needing to go through a 
ton of emails. Tiddlywiki will work well if it can handle the volume of 
notifications we get, as it has tag support, browser support, and an easy to 
use interface. 

My question is if can even handle the workload through a single html file. 
We're talking about like a gigabyte+ worth of text and thousands of toddlers. 

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[tw] Re: Reminder Manager for TW5???

[Juan Palomo]

Hi, Josiah.

I had to try it. The idea of dispensing with other programs and using 
Tiddlywiki for everything is very strong. But, well, we will continue to 
wait for an alternative ...

Greetings.

El viernes, 23 de junio de 2017, 1:08:34 (UTC+2), @TiddlyTweeter escribió:
>
> Ciao Palomo
>
> As far as I know I don't think TiddlyWiki can (yet) do alarms.
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>
> On Thursday, 22 June 2017 23:38:30 UTC+2, Juan Palomo wrote:
>>
>> Hello
>>
>> I use Tiddlywiki to store my articles and notes, as a journal and as a 
>> task manager. But there is something I miss, a reminder manager.
>> I have searched but I have not found much, the most I have seen is a 
>> module of task manager, Cardo. I do not need something complex, just to 
>> remember birthdays, anniversaries, dates with someone, etc.
>>
>> Do you know any complement for TW5 that serves that purpose ???
>>
>> Greetings.
>>
>

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[tw] Re: Reminder Manager for TW5???

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Palomo

As far as I know I don't think TiddlyWiki can (yet) do alarms.

Best wishes
Josiah

On Thursday, 22 June 2017 23:38:30 UTC+2, Juan Palomo wrote:
>
> Hello
>
> I use Tiddlywiki to store my articles and notes, as a journal and as a 
> task manager. But there is something I miss, a reminder manager.
> I have searched but I have not found much, the most I have seen is a 
> module of task manager, Cardo. I do not need something complex, just to 
> remember birthdays, anniversaries, dates with someone, etc.
>
> Do you know any complement for TW5 that serves that purpose ???
>
> Greetings.
>

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[tw] Re: Strange transclusion of Tobias' Tiddler

[Eric Shulman]

On Thursday, June 22, 2017 at 3:03:13 PM UTC-7, AlexHough wrote:
>
> I was looking how to embed a font, and found Tb5 has the solution -- 
> http://tobibeer.github.io/tb5/#Using%20%20A%20Custom%20Font
> Anyway, I pulled the tiddler into my TW from the Open Tab.
> Then I tried to transclude it.
> The transclusion doesn't work
> However, if you clone the transculion it does
> attached is a copy of the prerelease, showing the behaviour
>

There are TWO spaces between "Using" and "A" (note the %20%20 in the link 
above!)

However, your transclusion only has ONE space in the reference... thus, it 
is a different title and does not match the title of the imported tiddler.

-e

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[tw] Reminder Manager for TW5???

[Juan Palomo]

Hello

I use Tiddlywiki to store my articles and notes, as a journal and as a task 
manager. But there is something I miss, a reminder manager.
I have searched but I have not found much, the most I have seen is a module 
of task manager, Cardo. I do not need something complex, just to remember 
birthdays, anniversaries, dates with someone, etc.

Do you know any complement for TW5 that serves that purpose ???

Greetings.

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[tw] Donating to TiddlyWiki - Lets UPDATE

[@TiddlyTweeter]

I guess that so few people donate to TiddlyWiki that its last occurrence is 
located in past ages ... http://tiddlytools.github.io/fundraising.html

Would it not be better to have a more visually contemporary approach? And 
actually ASK for money occasionally?

Best wishes
Josiah

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[tw] Re: anchor top when editing tiddler

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Things that come up for me in this thread are questions like ...

 1 - WHAT is an Editor for?
 2 - HOW should it be best displayed?
 3 - Do different types of TW (with functionally different aims) need 
DIFFERENT Editor Manifestations?

For instance, at the moment, the default editor enters the stream and when 
you have edited and saved the Tiddler created it is added to the stream. It 
seems to me that that behaviour is optimal for only some cases, not all.

IMO, a FLOATED Editor that, on save also EXITS the Tiddler could be good. 
This approach would serve apps well where the purpose was to add content, 
but not display it as a fragment. Rather, its part of a larger project in 
which the underlying plan places it appropriately. 

The work done in TiddlyMap I think is very instructive on this kind of 
thing. I believe it uses adapted Modals for Editing.

BTB, I suspect some of the layout issues would work differently if the 
orientation towards what "Editing" is for were played with.

Just thoughts.

Best wishes
Josiah

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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki is very irritating.

[A M Alfaro]

I had to look up ME and then realized I know it by it's original name: 
chronic fatigue syndrome. An ex of mine had it and it was extremely 
debilitating. For everyone else unfamiliar with the disease, imagine the 
most strenuous workout you've ever had and the tiredness/soreness/fatigue 
which followed. Then multiply that until you are so sore and tired, 
physically and mentally, that getting from the bed to the couch feels like 
an insurmountable task for which you should be awarded a Nobel prize 
because now you'll be lucky if you can make it back to bed in an hour. 
Every activity comes with a cost/risk analysis to decide if it's worth the 
effects that will follow in the coming days. Because no matter what, there 
is always a price to pay for the simplest exertions. I know some people 
want to say "oh well if it's just tiredness from exertion, then what's the 
big deal?", but it's a compounding disease meaning the more you do, the 
more you are affected. I could go on but I'm going to stop here. 

So I understand your frustration Richard. Tiddlywiki 5 is definitely not at 
a point which I would recommend to someone with limited resources. Maybe 
classic tiddlywiki since it already has so much built for it. The major 
problem with it is the increasing difficulty of saving it via the three 
major browsers. Which is the reason that TW5 has been released in it's 
current state. I would recommend using TWC either with TiddlyDesktop or in 
FireFox with the TiddlyFox extension installed. I use FF w/TF at home for 
my TWC files and have had no issues so far. If you go to tiddlyspot.com 
you'll find a few flavors of TWC which may already be set up to meet your 
needs. I've also made a list of oft-returned to TWC plugin repositories in 
one of my own wikis at ama.bookmarks.tiddlyspot.com.

I really hope you won't abandon Tiddlywiki entirely, but I know you need to 
use the tools best suited to your situation.

Take care,
ama

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[tw] [TWC] How to delay the execution of a macro or a part of it

[whatever]

Hi!
I'm working on a plugin, which, depending on the amount of data it needs to 
process, can take up to a minute to render. In the mean time, the TWC is 
practically frozen. Is there any way to delay the processing of the macro 
until the tiddler is loaded? Or delay the processing part of the macro? 
Which would actually be preferable, if I could display a placeholder 
message that the macro is processing stuff. I've played with setTimeout, 
both inside and outside of the handler, but it didn't work. Any ideas?

w

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[tw] Re: TiddlyServer 2.0 - Announcement!!!

['Sergey Shishkin' via TiddlyWiki]

>
> add more features


Search in files (for all tiddlers).



понедельник, 12 июня 2017 г., 15:13:01 UTC+2 пользователь Arlen Beiler 
написал:
>
> Good Morning All,
>
> This weekend I wrapped up a project that has been brewing in my mind for 
> years. It allows you to serve and save any single file TiddlyWiki (it uses 
> the put saver). And it also allows you to serve any data folder that can be 
> loaded into TiddlyWiki 5.1.14+.
>
> The documentation is in the link below, but if it finds a tiddlywiki.info 
> file inside a folder, that folder becomes a data folder (aka TiddlyWiki 
> Folder) and will get loaded into its own instance of TiddlyWiki and serve 
> requests to that path. The tiddlywiki.info file needs to specify the 
> correct server plugins, as usual, otherwise the wiki will be readonly 
> (actually sounds useful!).
>
> So without further ado, TiddlyServer 2.0!!!
>
> https://github.com/Arlen22/TiddlyServer
>
> Any questions or comments, feel free to reply here.
>
> Special thanks to Matt Lauber for allowing me to use the name 
> TiddlyServer. I look forward to collaborating with you and others to add 
> more features.
>
> Enjoy!
> -Arlen
>

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[tw] Re: anchor top when editing tiddler

[Mat]

Doh! I forgot the OP question by Rich:

The following adds position sticky;

<:-)

.tc-edit-tags {
  margin-bottom:12px
}
.tc-editor-toolbar {
  position:sticky;
  position: -webkit-sticky;
  position: sticky;
  top: 0px; /* distance to stick from top, e.g if you use top bar */
  left:0;
  width:100%;
  font-size:0; 
  line-height:0;
  padding:0;
  border:5px solid transparent;
  margin-top:-11px; /* pull it up */
  outline:1px solid blue; /* remove the X to peek where it all resides */
}
.tc-editor-toolbar:hover {
  font-size:1em;
  border-color:white;
  background:white;
}
.tc-editor-toolbar button {
  display:none;
  padding:0px; 
}
.tc-editor-toolbar:hover button {
 display:inline-block;
}



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[tw] Re: anchor top when editing tiddler

[Mat]

Good idea to hide the toolbar.

I made this to have it show-on-hover (or, if touch screen, show-on-tap!). 
In order to have an area on which to hover, I attempted to increase the 
margin above the editor field... but I fail to do so. Instead I increased 
the margin below the tags field but this is of course only OK if there is 
no other custom field appearing between the tags and the editor.

Other than that there is some styling applied that I think works well or 
even better than in the native layout.

<:-)

tag: $:/tags/Stylesheet

.tc-edit-tags {
  margin-bottom:12px
}
.tc-editor-toolbar {
  position:absolute;
  left:0;
  width:100%;
  font-size:0; 
  line-height:0;
  padding:0;
  border:5px solid transparent;
  margin-top:-11px; /* pull it up */
  Xoutline:1px solid blue; /* remove the X to peek where it all resides */
}
.tc-editor-toolbar:hover {
  font-size:1em;
  border-color:white;
  background:white;
}
.tc-editor-toolbar button {
  display:none;
  padding:0px; 
}
.tc-editor-toolbar:hover button {
 display:inline-block;
}


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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Plugins Updated: ToDoNow and Listreveal

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi Juan

Good to hear. I can see now, there was an error in my example – I should have 
removed the !

Thank you for using ToDoNow and for posting your issues. It is always 
interesting to read how people use my stuff. 

Cheers,
Thomas 

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[tw] Re: Make TW5 read-only?

[Stephen Wilson]

You can still serve from drop box using updog or pancake.io

On Thursday, 22 June 2017 04:07:09 UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
>
> TW5 is read-only out of the box, but that's probably not what you mean. I 
> thought DB had removed the ability to serve up HTML files for free 
> customers, with a plan to drop paying customers sometime in 2017.
>
> There was a recent conversation about read-only and solutions in this 
> thread: 
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/tiddlywiki/read-only%7Csort:date/tiddlywiki/JeuinlhzMNU/X61u--YDCQAJ
>
> Good luck,
> Mark
>
> On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 4:14:18 PM UTC-7, JWHoneycutt wrote:
>>
>> I would like to share a TW5 file from Dropbox, but have it be read-only.
>>
>> Does this have an easy answer?
>>
>

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Plugins Updated: ToDoNow and Listreveal

[Juan Palomo]

Hi Thomas.

Thanks for everything, I had tried it the way you indicated but it did not 
work. But I've reviewed the syntax again and got it to work.

Best regards.


El miércoles, 21 de junio de 2017, 22:19:46 (UTC+2), Thomas Elmiger 
escribió:
>
> Hi Juan
>
> It seems to me, that Jed’s Bar Charts work perfectly with only tags: With 
> the predefined tags in ToDoNow you would use something like
>
> <$ProgressBar finished="[tag[YourCategoryTag]tag[ToDoDone]]"
>  unfinished='"[tag[YourCategoryTag]!tag[ToDo]]" colors="#bf9,#fbb"/>/>
>
> as in the first example here: 
> https://ooktech.com/TiddlyWiki/BarChart/#Demo
>
> Have fun!
> Thomas
>

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