date:20200709

Ctl-C and Ctl-[ work as alternative escape keys, if anyone is interested.

On Thursday, July 9, 2020 at 11:19:23 AM UTC-7, Mark S. wrote:
>
>
> I was trying to use the Code Mirror Vim keymap.
>
> The problem is that the escape key, which is used to change edit modes in 
> Vim, is still mapped to the the "cancel tiddler" functionality in 
> TiddlyWiki. So you can't change modes without also closing out the current 
> tiddler and abandoning your changes!
>
> I assume that some alternative key has been mapped, but if so, it hasn't 
> been documented.
>
> Is there a magic incantation for using Vim in Code Mirror on TiddlyWiki ?
>
> Thanks!
>

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[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

Looks like you solved this 
https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/tiddlywiki/hDQbb3bSC2k

Perhaps post the solution?

TW Tones

On Friday, July 10, 2020 at 11:47:14 AM UTC+10, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Hi Tony,
>
> Thanks for the heads up. Technically, it was working fine. But you 
> probably weren't in the mood to learn Vim today ;-)
>
> I *think* I've got a new version posted that should work OK. It looks like 
> I need to add another step to my production cycle to be sure I've removed 
> the developer's tools.
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Thursday, July 9, 2020 at 6:11:34 PM UTC-7, TW Tones wrote:
>>
>> Mark,
>>
>> Thanks for the continued development here.
>>
>> Unfortunately I seem to have lost the ability to edit the tiddlers, it 
>> edit mode does not accept key strokes, both Chrome/FireFox. It is acting 
>> like there was a stuck key, typing a letter jumps to that letter with a 
>> green cursor.
>>
>> On testing the zip functionality I realised how easy it would be to 
>> develop work instructions and other complex processes in a Noto, just 
>> import and use it. It can contain checkboxes and all that.
>>
>> All we need to facilitate this is the ability to import multiple times 
>> and use a different prefix each time.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>>
>> On Friday, July 10, 2020 at 9:36:31 AM UTC+10, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> New in vsn 0.0.7 . 
>>>
>>> Neatened up export options. Added text export option. Added backup to 
>>> zip file option.
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

Thanks now working

I was not aware the whole vim editor was or could be embedded, would not 
have though I could be in Vim.

Regards
Tony


On Friday, July 10, 2020 at 11:47:14 AM UTC+10, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Hi Tony,
>
> Thanks for the heads up. Technically, it was working fine. But you 
> probably weren't in the mood to learn Vim today ;-)
>
> I *think* I've got a new version posted that should work OK. It looks like 
> I need to add another step to my production cycle to be sure I've removed 
> the developer's tools.
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Thursday, July 9, 2020 at 6:11:34 PM UTC-7, TW Tones wrote:
>>
>> Mark,
>>
>> Thanks for the continued development here.
>>
>> Unfortunately I seem to have lost the ability to edit the tiddlers, it 
>> edit mode does not accept key strokes, both Chrome/FireFox. It is acting 
>> like there was a stuck key, typing a letter jumps to that letter with a 
>> green cursor.
>>
>> On testing the zip functionality I realised how easy it would be to 
>> develop work instructions and other complex processes in a Noto, just 
>> import and use it. It can contain checkboxes and all that.
>>
>> All we need to facilitate this is the ability to import multiple times 
>> and use a different prefix each time.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>>
>> On Friday, July 10, 2020 at 9:36:31 AM UTC+10, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> New in vsn 0.0.7 . 
>>>
>>> Neatened up export options. Added text export option. Added backup to 
>>> zip file option.
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

Hi Tony,

Thanks for the heads up. Technically, it was working fine. But you probably 
weren't in the mood to learn Vim today ;-)

I *think* I've got a new version posted that should work OK. It looks like 
I need to add another step to my production cycle to be sure I've removed 
the developer's tools.


Thanks!

On Thursday, July 9, 2020 at 6:11:34 PM UTC-7, TW Tones wrote:
>
> Mark,
>
> Thanks for the continued development here.
>
> Unfortunately I seem to have lost the ability to edit the tiddlers, it 
> edit mode does not accept key strokes, both Chrome/FireFox. It is acting 
> like there was a stuck key, typing a letter jumps to that letter with a 
> green cursor.
>
> On testing the zip functionality I realised how easy it would be to 
> develop work instructions and other complex processes in a Noto, just 
> import and use it. It can contain checkboxes and all that.
>
> All we need to facilitate this is the ability to import multiple times and 
> use a different prefix each time.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
> On Friday, July 10, 2020 at 9:36:31 AM UTC+10, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>>
>> New in vsn 0.0.7 . 
>>
>> Neatened up export options. Added text export option. Added backup to zip 
>> file option.
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW

Mark,

Thanks for the continued development here.

Unfortunately I seem to have lost the ability to edit the tiddlers, it edit 
mode does not accept key strokes, both Chrome/FireFox. It is acting like 
there was a stuck key, typing a letter jumps to that letter with a green 
cursor.

On testing the zip functionality I realised how easy it would be to develop 
work instructions and other complex processes in a Noto, just import and 
use it. It can contain checkboxes and all that.

All we need to facilitate this is the ability to import multiple times and 
use a different prefix each time.

Regards
Tony

On Friday, July 10, 2020 at 9:36:31 AM UTC+10, Mark S. wrote:
>
>
> New in vsn 0.0.7 . 
>
> Neatened up export options. Added text export option. Added backup to zip 
> file option.
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Autoscroll in TW

Eric,

Not something I am after right now but this is impressive. I wonder if 
there is a way to get a smoother scroll?


   - I can see tiddlywiki being used as a tele prompter or prompter
   - A recent plugin that allows inline audio would help with scripts and 
   live audio insertion.

I have another idea that if we could play a video or audio podcast with the 
position in time being able to trigger an action such as at 3:10 seconds 
trigger a pause, or display a message. Alternatively click at time x, pause 
and allow the user to take a note that will appear, at that time in the 
future, when replayed. Without going into the detail it could allow a 
killer application. 

Regards
Tony




On Thursday, July 9, 2020 at 10:24:36 PM UTC+10, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> On Thursday, July 9, 2020 at 2:09:43 AM UTC-7, Adithya B M wrote:
>>
>> The tiddler is longer than one viewport.
>> I am currently stuck at how to "do" something when the toolbar button is 
>> clicked. Are there any tutorials about this?
>>
>
> I did my experimenting with a CSS-based solution... and have it working 
> and have posted it on my site:
>
>http://tiddlytools.com/autoscroll.html
>
> Rather than add a toolbar item to each tiddler,
> I created a "viewer" tiddler named "AutoScroller".
> It provides a form that lets you:
>
>- select a tiddler to view
>- enter a duration for the scrolling (in seconds)
>- press "start" button to begin scrolling
>- press "stop" button to pause scrolling
>- press "reset" button to return to top of content
>- press "clear" button to reset selection and duration
>
> Below the form is a display area that shows the selected tiddler's content 
> in a scrollable area.
> At the bottom is some debugging output that shows the CSS that is being 
> used.
>
> Give it a try and let me know what you think.
>
> enjoy,
> -e
>

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[tw5] Re: http://evanbalster.com/ where are you!!!!

Ste,

A Quick reminder, that on numerous occasions I have raised the idea of 
using a "now time stamp" rather than a future dated field and in the 
listing of such tiddler use the days operator to determine you are now +7 
days from the timestamp. That is avoid such date manipulation and let the 
search/listing deal with it.

Eg review-date older than 7 days then it is due (in the weekly queue), but 
this also allows the same date field to be listed in fortnightly and 
monthly, even quarterly and annually. Just change the days operators, a 
caparison of the date field with now. All this without a single date 
manipulation. If you want to use a weekly-date and flag/tag it Monday and 
only list it on any day of the week if not done, but only Monday if done.

Regards
Tony

On Thursday, July 9, 2020 at 9:22:55 PM UTC+10, Ste wrote:
>
> http://evanbalster.com/tiddlywiki/ 
> 
> seems to have gone! :(
> I'm sure this cam up before, and someone cloned the formula plugin 
> somewhere (with an update?), but my google groups searches can't seem to 
> find the thread...
> The wayback machine has a snapshot from Nov last year.
> Was just hoping I could get some date examples and usage from the site.
> Hope your ok Evan!
>
> Stephen
>

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[tw5] Re: Do you guys want another Tiddly app for Android?

Adithya

As other have noted more features all already demonstrated in the other 
apps one way or the other. This idea is just a different way to package 
tiddlywiki as an app.

>
> I see the value in what you're suggesting. I am however limited by my 
> understanding of how TiddlyWiki operates. 
>

Lean on me and the community here to learn more.

Some questions I will try to figure out the answer to in the next few weeks:
> 1) How exactly will the android container facilitate a TW upgrade?
>

First, An application would act as a shell containing a single html file. 
One of the android apps has a fork facility. You can provide the link to 
tiddlywiki.com and it downloads the whole wiki into the app. The latest 
version can be published online, new users get the latest loaded when first 
using the app according to a hard coded internet address. All their changes 
are saved in the local copy, and the designer can build an update package 
that the local wiki can access to update their local copy. This could 
leverage existing plugin update processes and/or the library mechanism. 
Basically a pull to update, but a rudimentary way to message the app could 
be developed to announce and update available. This is all in tiddlywiki, 
not the proposed app.

Core updates would be a little more complex but doable. 
 
What is important to note here the app should not need updating much it is 
the content in the html that needs this option.

 

> 2) I would like the functionality to share something in android and add it 
> as a tiddler. How will the android container do this?
>
>
This has being done as others account, you can import pdf and images and 
more. It may be tricky to import images etc... as external and a single 
file tiddlywiki would not want too much embedded content.

So to be clear This is what I imagine.

   - An Android app that is a shell that can present a single file 
   tiddlywiki to use.
   - Accepts shares, can access GPS (already), can import content on the 
   phone (all already done), links to the default browser etc...
   - In this case however a designer builds their single file wiki and 
   posts it online for example a personal journaling tool
   - They encode the app with the link to this wiki and generate an apk (or 
   what ever) with this hardcoded address. 
   - The app can be placed in the app store as its branding suggests eg 
   "personal Journal"
   - On installation the app either uses the embeded wiki file, or ideally 
   goes to the coded address and downloads the latest copy. 
  - Thus updates to the embedded wiki will be distributed to new users 
  on initialisation.
   - Once setup the user just uses the app according to the design of its 
   embedded wiki. 
   - In someways this replicates the functions of Progressive WebApps.
   - The HTML file saves its self on the local device through the app.
   - Import export and backups can be built inside the tiddlywiki or 
   facilitated by the app.

In future a way for a tiddlywiki to poll a internet address for possible 
updates on launch can be developed, the app need only, "not stand in 
tiddlywikis way".

A final note, I would pay to have this facility. and if I had a successful 
app I would pay more.

Regards
TW Tones.

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[tw5] Re: Italian Pasta - List of Pasta Varieties

Duarte,

Love the site and Pasta. This is a most fascinating demo of tiddlywiki in
so far as it demonstrates how good it is at organising knowledge. Once a
comprehensive set of data is captured the value is synergistic and it
becomes more than the sum of its parts. I love your zoom in to the picture,
perhaps one day someone can click through to the pasta in there?

To contribute to your endeavour I do think there are ways to present even
more information directly to the user, as a quick example I attached my
simple tag pill enhancement. It allows you to open all tagged, or close all
tagged. On seeing your site I realise tags can have a description or
tooltip that is displayed in the tag pill (ask and I will make it), this
itself can be by lookup to information elsewhere, It may make the tags much
more functional and meaningful to users.

I hope you achieve some sales through your amazon links but this also
prompts me to suggest allowing visitors to select items they want to try
and giving them something similar to a cart - perhaps just the favourites
plugin eg ajh/favorites
or
Mohammads https://github.com/kookma/TW-Favorites

And the future ? start to collect recipes that are typically used for each
pasta type. I had a close connection to an Italian family, making sauce,
pickled eggplant, black spaghetti and more. The Italians seem to have
acquired some of the best food in the world and made it their own.

Regards
TW Tones

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reimagin-tags.bundle.json
Description: application/json

[tw5] Re: Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW


New in vsn 0.0.7 . 

Neatened up export options. Added text export option. Added backup to zip 
file option.

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[tw5] Re: JSONMangler and nested JSON

Werner,

Despite clearly having a lot in common with an understanding of databases I 
don't completely follow you need or argument here. However I believe I can 
offer you some helpful leads.

One part that confuses me is your 1:n or one to many, I have already build 
one to one, one to many and many to many half a dozen ways without a data 
tiddler in tiddlywiki. What is the particular issue here?

First look at tiddlywikis existing functionality.

   - The history mechanism stores tiddler titles and more during a session 
   in the $:/historyList this may be an analogue
   - The Import and export mechanism extract and package tiddlers as json 
   representations
   - Mohammad's Trash Plugin moves deleted tiddlers into another structure 
   to keep them aside, I think it is JSON as well.
   - In my demo site here 
    the active tiddler 
   process extracts titles from the history list using splitregexp not 
   standard JSON as the key is not unique

However It would not necessarily be too concerned about using tiddlers 
unless your number will be truly astounding in numbers. We had a 66,000 
word tiddler example in the last year and that was single file.

Speculation

If you packed more static tiddlers (eg a reference table)  into a plugin 
and access them as shadow tiddlers you are effectively packing them into a 
json file and allow yourself to edit exceptions and the database becomes 
the combination of the packaged and overwritten providing a lot of 
flexibility to your design. In effect you CRUD will make use of standard 
tiddlywiki features, just treat the records like standard tiddlers. The D 
or delete of CRUD could get smart (adding and removing from JSON) or you 
could simply flag deleted tiddlers as such and treat them as deleted with 
an occasional rebuild recommended after N tiddlers are flagged as deleted.

I can already foresee a lot of sophisticated features being possible 
including tracing and logs, difference engines, database snapshot at a 
point in time and more. I have recently designed an alternative to shadow 
tiddlers I call ghost tiddlers that may also be a useful algorithm.

Offer
I as a tiddlywiki superuser, I am investing totally in the TiddlyWiki 
platform, if you are interested in collaboration to build a database model 
process, making full use tiddlywiki's unique features I think it will be a 
good investment in the future.

Lets start the conversation.

Regards
Tony

On Friday, July 10, 2020 at 5:38:31 AM UTC+10, Werner wrote:
>
> Dear all, heavy user and rare poster here. Using TW has become a daily 
> treat for me, but I have managed to still stay at the surface so far. Now, 
> I have to dive in deeper.
>
> I have been using TW so far to store semi-structured information, but now 
> I need to integrate structured information, i.e. a database featuring an 
> 1:n relation. 
>
> I thought it might be a good idea using JSON. I also thought, for my 
> purposes, I don't want to mimic an RDBMS in TW with all the primary key 
> hassles and a deluge of .TID files (I am running TW on Node.js), so I 
> wanted to use a JSON tiddler for the entities and use arrays in JSON for 
> sub-entities. 
>
> I came across Joshua Fontenay's JSONMangler plugin (Kudos, Josh!) and so 
> far so good.
>
> BUT
>
> Eventually I want to implement CRUD (create-retrieve-update-delete) 
> functionalities for this special data. And I want to display the 1:n 
> relation in a single tiddler. And this is where I'm stuck at the moment:
>
> - how to get the total number of array items in a JSON array in order to 
> be able to display the 1:n 
>
> apart from the variable array length, the JSON structure is fix, so 
> everything else should be fairly straightforward. OK, there are some 
> numeric fields in the array I need to sum up, but one thing after the 
> other...
>
> Any insight would be greatly appreciated
>
> Best,
> Werner
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: [ Demo ] : floating editor toolbar

Saq,

Once before I created a new "toolbar" one could manage inside control panel 
appearance toolbars. We could just list all EditorToolbar items and a 
checkbox would place it on the popup. This provides the standard way to 
select and reorder.

Also with the Active tiddler discussion in dev tools even editor toolbar 
options that do not relate to selecting text could be placed in a sidebar.

Perhaps after POC?

Regards
Tony

On Thursday, July 9, 2020 at 5:31:41 PM UTC+10, Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>
> @Mat: Regarding tools that don't require selections: I haven't really 
> given any of this a lot of thought. This was a quick hack combining bits 
> from other things I have worked on, prompted by a request for a more 
> slimmed down editor toolbar in Streams.
>
> In general I favour a minimal UI when writing, so I would not want a small 
> toolbar at the top of the textarea with those tools. My natural preference 
> might be for bringing up a different popup menu at the caret position, 
> prompted by a keyboard shortcut. However I realize that not everyone is a 
> fan of keyboard shortcuts. Or you know, we could let EditorMagic deal with 
> that ;)
>
> @Tony: there is a rough version of a configuration panel for buttons for 
> the toolbar at https://saqimtiaz.github.io/sq-tw/floating-menu.html#config
>
> That's pretty much how far I got before the call ended, and it is 
> sufficient for a proof of concept.
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Bob and BobEXE version 1.6.0, Mopbucket, backup your data

2020-07-09 Thread Dave Parker

other than the Streams thing, I do definitely find this version is more 
stable :)

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[tw5] JSONMangler and nested JSON

2020-07-09 Thread 'Werner' via TiddlyWiki

Dear all, heavy user and rare poster here. Using TW has become a daily
treat for me, but I have managed to still stay at the surface so far. Now,
I have to dive in deeper.

I have been using TW so far to store semi-structured information, but now I
need to integrate structured information, i.e. a database featuring an 1:n
relation.

I thought it might be a good idea using JSON. I also thought, for my
purposes, I don't want to mimic an RDBMS in TW with all the primary key
hassles and a deluge of .TID files (I am running TW on Node.js), so I
wanted to use a JSON tiddler for the entities and use arrays in JSON for
sub-entities.

I came across Joshua Fontenay's JSONMangler plugin (Kudos, Josh!) and so
far so good.

BUT

Eventually I want to implement CRUD (create-retrieve-update-delete)
functionalities for this special data. And I want to display the 1:n
relation in a single tiddler. And this is where I'm stuck at the moment:

- how to get the total number of array items in a JSON array in order to be
able to display the 1:n

apart from the variable array length, the JSON structure is fix, so
everything else should be fairly straightforward. OK, there are some
numeric fields in the array I need to sum up, but one thing after the
other...

Any insight would be greatly appreciated

Best,
Werner

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[tw5] Re: Italian Pasta - List of Pasta Varieties

2020-07-09 Thread Duarte Farrajota Ramos

Thanks guys glad you like it, hope I didn't make everyone too hungry.

On Thursday, 9 July 2020 17:45:19 UTC+1, Michael Wiktowy wrote:
>
> I am hesitant to mention a bug report after your description of the amount 
> of work to render it but ... Is there supposed to be two identical piles of 
> "Orzo, Risoni" in the bottom left row of your image map or (following the 
> pattern and knowing no Italian) is there such a thing as "Risini"?
>

Hey nice catch Mike glad you caught it, you guys really are paying 
attention :) Luckily it is just a mislabeling on the overlay, no need to 
re-render, though I would if it did.
Some shapes can have different names in different regions, likewise the 
same name can be used for different shapes too such is the case here. The 
lower right one is supposed to read *Risoni* only.

Fixed all instances of it, should be up now (may need a hard refresh). 
Thanks for the report, don't hesitate to point any others, I'll try yo fix 
all I can.

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[tw5] Re: Converting a tiddler name to a field name to display relevant fields

2020-07-09 Thread Mark Green



Thanks for your help. Basically there are two steps to the process.

1. Implement mod- fields: each tiddler will list the tiddler name and field 
contents for any other tiddler with a "mod-" name matching it. So if 
tiddler Foo has a mod-Bar attribute of "Hello", then viewing tiddler Bar 
will display a table including "[[Foo]] - Hello".

2. Implement mod inheritance: if a tiddler has an "inherit-mod" field that 
is a title list, it will also display all mod-fields relevant to other 
tiddlers named in that list.
So if tiddler Qux has an inherit-mod field naming "Bar" then Quz will also 
display the table showing "[[Foo]] - Hello" because although Foo does not 
modify Qux, it modifier Bar, and Qux inherits Bar.

The 2 was the reason for wanting to use a macro giving the page name with 
the current tiddler as the default, since I planned this would then be 
followed something like this (just an indication, not correct syntax or 
anything):
\define recursiveModifierBlock(for:"")
<>
<$list filter="list[inherit-mod]" variable="parent">
< >>



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[tw5] Re: http://evanbalster.com/ where are you!!!!

 tiddlymap  has now been 
updated to reflect these changes.

On Thursday, July 9, 2020 at 5:04:00 AM UTC-7, Stephen Wilson wrote:
>
> Found it...discussion which mentions Evans site going down.
>
> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/7jtgYsV6iXE/m/84D8Y34gCAAJ  
>
> https://joshuafontany.github.io/TiddlyWikiFormula/ 
>
>

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[tw5] How to use the Vim mode in Code-Mirror?


I was trying to use the Code Mirror Vim keymap.

The problem is that the escape key, which is used to change edit modes in 
Vim, is still mapped to the the "cancel tiddler" functionality in 
TiddlyWiki. So you can't change modes without also closing out the current 
tiddler and abandoning your changes!

I assume that some alternative key has been mapped, but if so, it hasn't 
been documented.

Is there a magic incantation for using Vim in Code Mirror on TiddlyWiki ?

Thanks!

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[tw5] Re: Italian Pasta - List of Pasta Varieties

2020-07-09 Thread Michael Wiktowy

Very cool use! I've never heard of most of those ... time to start eating 
more pasta dinners.

I am hesitant to mention a bug report after your description of the amount 
of work to render it but ... Is there supposed to be two identical piles of 
"Orzo, Risoni" in the bottom left row of your image map or (following the 
pattern and knowing no Italian) is there such a thing as "Risini"?

/Mike


On Thursday, July 9, 2020 at 7:52:57 AM UTC-3, Duarte Farrajota Ramos wrote:
>
> Hey guys, do you like Italian pasta?
>
> After quite a few years on and off in the making I can finally say I 
> finished my long term project of documenting many common types of Italian 
> Pasta.
>
> http://pasta.duarteramos.pt
> (Warning site contains some large images if your have limited bandwidth or 
> a slow device)
>
> [image: DPFR_ItalianPastaChart_S.jpg]
>
>
> It'd be totally off-topic here other than the site being powered by out 
> beloved TiddlyWiki. There is nothing fancy or particularly remarkable 
> Tiddly-wise, just an attestment to its versatility.
>
> Revealing a little more technical details about it, it was started in 
> version 5.1.11 back in 2016, and has been in the making for the past four 
> years, though most of the time it was actually just stalled as I 
> procrastinated or attended other matters.
> Makes use of plenty of Wiki Filters, View Templates, SVG vector icons, 
> some CSS numbered tables and other minor tricks I learned (read stole eheh) 
> here and there through the web.
> The original Past Chart  was 
> made from a large SVG file with links.
> It started with some basic research about pasta names and types, then went 
> on to actually try to figure out what they look like, describing them, and 
> real world measurements for reference that would allow the creation of the 
> 3D models.
> Illustrations were all made with Blender 3D , 
> rendered with EEVEE and labeled in Inkscape . 
> Original render was huge, 24000 x 12000 pixels, takes about forty minutes 
> to produce, and has to be rendered in four parts and cobbled together.
>
> Hope you find like it.
>
>

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[tw5] Re: http://evanbalster.com/ where are you!!!!

https://marxsal.github.io/various/playground.html#Date%20Conversion%20Macros

You can calculate future dates. Coupled with the range widget, you could 
calculate a series of dates every X days apart. To poke it back into a 
field requires a button or other action widget, as always.

If you have an app that depends on thousands of dates being calculated when 
the TW loads, then this might not be the solution for you. Javascript will 
always be faster. However, even Javascript has some serious date range 
limitations built in, surprisingly enough.

On Thursday, July 9, 2020 at 8:49:10 AM UTC-7, Mat wrote:
>
> Ste, it may be worth considering that TW now has math functionality that 
> was not available when Evan made his plugin. Also, I recall digging up some 
> algo for how to calculate future dates that Mark used for some problem. 
> Maybe he has a ready made solution that you can use.
>
> <:-)
>

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[tw5] Re: Autoscroll in TW

2020-07-09 Thread Adithya B M

Eric, This is beautiful. It solves the problem!

This would be my wishlist: Would this scenario be hard to pull off?
1) There is an autoscroll button on the toolbar on each tiddler
2) On clicking, the button fires an actionwidget? which:


   - Launches the Autoscroll Tiddler
   - Prepopulates the tiddler to be scrolled


   - Maybe use a field value from the original tiddler to populate the 
   duration field. 
   - The Autoscroll tiddler can continue to have a pause,stop and reset 
   buttons

 
 
 
 
 



On Thursday, July 9, 2020 at 5:54:36 PM UTC+5:30, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> On Thursday, July 9, 2020 at 2:09:43 AM UTC-7, Adithya B M wrote:
>>
>> The tiddler is longer than one viewport.
>> I am currently stuck at how to "do" something when the toolbar button is 
>> clicked. Are there any tutorials about this?
>>
>
> I did my experimenting with a CSS-based solution... and have it working 
> and have posted it on my site:
>
>http://tiddlytools.com/autoscroll.html
>
> Rather than add a toolbar item to each tiddler,
> I created a "viewer" tiddler named "AutoScroller".
> It provides a form that lets you:
>
>- select a tiddler to view
>- enter a duration for the scrolling (in seconds)
>- press "start" button to begin scrolling
>- press "stop" button to pause scrolling
>- press "reset" button to return to top of content
>- press "clear" button to reset selection and duration
>
> Below the form is a display area that shows the selected tiddler's content 
> in a scrollable area.
> At the bottom is some debugging output that shows the CSS that is being 
> used.
>
> Give it a try and let me know what you think.
>
> enjoy,
> -e
>

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[tw5] Re: http://evanbalster.com/ where are you!!!!

Ste, it may be worth considering that TW now has math functionality that 
was not available when Evan made his plugin. Also, I recall digging up some 
algo for how to calculate future dates that Mark used for some problem. 
Maybe he has a ready made solution that you can use.

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: I promise I searched for this answer

When you make the view template, and remember to put {{!!created}} in the 
text field, the date should show up in view mode on EVERY tiddler. If it 
doesn't, then you've probably done something wrong in the creation of the 
template tiddler. The dates should show up with the default formatting.

Sometimes when you type something into a tag field, you might accidentally 
add a space. So be sure that the correct tag has been submitted.

Another way to approach it is to put something like this in a tiddler:

<$list filter="[tag[Journal]!sort[created]]">
<$link/> // {{!!created}}// 


This will list your journal entries and show the "created" date it's 
seeing. That way you can pick out any discrepancies.

HTH

On Thursday, July 9, 2020 at 6:34:24 AM UTC-7, Daniel Zion wrote:
>
> Hey all,
>
> Sorry for the delay. Attached is a screen shot of my 
> $:/config/NewJournal/title shadow tiddler. 
>
> Mark,
>
> I tried making that tiddler to see all by created date, but nothing showed 
> up. Did I need to have the title formatted a certain way? I put 
> $:/tags/ViewTemplate as a tag but nothing showed up there.
>
> thanks again for all the help!
>
> On Friday, June 26, 2020 at 10:27:48 AM UTC-4, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, June 26, 2020 at 6:39:18 AM UTC-7, Daniel Zion wrote:
>>>
>>> Mark,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the link to that page on the filters. I hadn't messed with 
>>> the Advanced Search yet, but that does seem like an easier place to try out 
>>> some filters. I created the tiddlers in order, so February first on though 
>>> June, so I don't think it was that. Reading TW's reply, it seems like I 
>>> didn't understand what fields were included, or how they were formatted. 
>>>
>>>
>> I would need to see the actual tiddlers to know what's going on. The 
>> sorting algorithm is pretty accurate, so at the moment I have to assume 
>> that one or more of the items were created out of order.
>>
>> As an experiment, you can create a tiddler and tag it with 
>> $:/tags/ViewTemplate , with the following contents:
>>
>> {{!!created}}
>>
>> This will display the created date on every tiddler. Then you can look at 
>> the tiddlers that are out of order and see if the title date stamp matches 
>> the created date stamp. When you're done, you can delete the viewtemplate 
>> tiddler.
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Do you guys want another Tiddly app for Android?

2020-07-09 Thread Riz

Being on the subject, I think cloud sync could be a welcome feature, as long as 
local sync is also enabled.

Also if anyone could work on a native editor interface for tiddlywiki on small 
screens that would be awesome.

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[tw5] Re: [ Demo ] : floating editor toolbar

2020-07-09 Thread Duarte Farrajota Ramos

Count me in!

This is great! I know tiddlers are by definition meant to be atomic and 
short, but sometimes they do grow large and editing long texts make the 
default toolbar scroll ou of view.
While the default behavior still works by pressing hotkeys and even does 
scroll the popovers into view correctly this is much more convenient and 
makes editing a lot smoother and less jumpy.

The way I see it, the perfect behavior would be to eventually complement 
this with a "sticky" toolbar for selection independent tools that is always 
kept in view like the sticky titles option.

Great work this is fantastic.

On Wednesday, 8 July 2020 23:36:43 UTC+1, Mat wrote:
>
> Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>>
>> When early morning conference calls run too long, you get demos. 
>>
>
> @everybody - quicky, lets set up a lot of boring conference calls for Saq!
>

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[tw5] Re: I promise I searched for this answer

2020-07-09 Thread Daniel Zion

Hey all,

Sorry for the delay. Attached is a screen shot of my 
$:/config/NewJournal/title shadow tiddler. 

Mark,

I tried making that tiddler to see all by created date, but nothing showed 
up. Did I need to have the title formatted a certain way? I put 
$:/tags/ViewTemplate as a tag but nothing showed up there.

thanks again for all the help!

On Friday, June 26, 2020 at 10:27:48 AM UTC-4, Mark S. wrote:
>
>
>
> On Friday, June 26, 2020 at 6:39:18 AM UTC-7, Daniel Zion wrote:
>>
>> Mark,
>>
>> Thanks for the link to that page on the filters. I hadn't messed with the 
>> Advanced Search yet, but that does seem like an easier place to try out 
>> some filters. I created the tiddlers in order, so February first on though 
>> June, so I don't think it was that. Reading TW's reply, it seems like I 
>> didn't understand what fields were included, or how they were formatted. 
>>
>>
> I would need to see the actual tiddlers to know what's going on. The 
> sorting algorithm is pretty accurate, so at the moment I have to assume 
> that one or more of the items were created out of order.
>
> As an experiment, you can create a tiddler and tag it with 
> $:/tags/ViewTemplate , with the following contents:
>
> {{!!created}}
>
> This will display the created date on every tiddler. Then you can look at 
> the tiddlers that are out of order and see if the title date stamp matches 
> the created date stamp. When you're done, you can delete the viewtemplate 
> tiddler.
>
> Good luck!
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Italian Pasta - List of Pasta Varieties

2020-07-09 Thread David Gifford

Awesome! Now I even have to watch my carbs when opening a TW!

On Thursday, July 9, 2020 at 5:52:57 AM UTC-5 duarte...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hey guys, do you like Italian pasta?
>
> After quite a few years on and off in the making I can finally say I 
> finished my long term project of documenting many common types of Italian 
> Pasta.
>
> http://pasta.duarteramos.pt
> (Warning site contains some large images if your have limited bandwidth or 
> a slow device)
>
> [image: DPFR_ItalianPastaChart_S.jpg]
>
>
> It'd be totally off-topic here other than the site being powered by out 
> beloved TiddlyWiki. There is nothing fancy or particularly remarkable 
> Tiddly-wise, just an attestment to its versatility.
>
> Revealing a little more technical details about it, it was started in 
> version 5.1.11 back in 2016, and has been in the making for the past four 
> years, though most of the time it was actually just stalled as I 
> procrastinated or attended other matters.
> Makes use of plenty of Wiki Filters, View Templates, some SVG icons here 
> and there, some CSS numbered tables and other minor tricks I learned here 
> and there through the web.
> The original Past Chart  was 
> made from a large SVG file with links.
> It started with some basic research about pasta names and types, then went 
> on to actually try to figure out what they look like, describing them, and 
> real world measurements for reference that would allow the creation of the 
> 3D models.
> Illustrations were all made with Blender 3D , 
> rendered with EEVEE and labeled in Inkscape . 
> Original render was huge, 24000 x 12000 pixels, takes about forty minutes 
> to produce, and has to be rendered in four parts and cobbled together.
>
> Hope you find like it.
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Autoscroll in TW

2020-07-09 Thread Eric Shulman

On Thursday, July 9, 2020 at 2:09:43 AM UTC-7, Adithya B M wrote:
>
> The tiddler is longer than one viewport.
> I am currently stuck at how to "do" something when the toolbar button is 
> clicked. Are there any tutorials about this?
>

I did my experimenting with a CSS-based solution... and have it working and 
have posted it on my site:

   http://tiddlytools.com/autoscroll.html

Rather than add a toolbar item to each tiddler,
I created a "viewer" tiddler named "AutoScroller".
It provides a form that lets you:

   - select a tiddler to view
   - enter a duration for the scrolling
   - press "start" button to begin scrolling
   - press "stop" button to pause scrolling
   - press "reset" button to return to top of content
   - press "clear" button to reset selection and duration

Below the form is a display area that shows the selected tiddler's content 
in a scrollable area.
At the bottom is some debugging output that shows the CSS that is being 
used.

Give it a try and let me know what you think.

enjoy,
-e

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[tw5] Re: Italian Pasta - List of Pasta Varieties

2020-07-09 Thread TiddlyTweeter

Ciao!

Molto, molto bene! :-)

*Great resource* on the subject*!* (FWIW, I live in Italy.)

Good you record not just the shapes but also the variations in ingredients. 
In the North we tend to use tipo "00" flour for everyday fresh pasta. But 
it's not so good for dried pastas IMO :-). Southern everyday pastas often 
use semolina flour. That is just as good for dried as fresco. 

I note you include pastas make with ingredients like buckwheat & maize. 
Shows you know your subject! Northern Italians have always made some pastas 
that are mainly buckwheat. Arises mainly from the fushion-cultures, 
especially in the North-East, with buckwheat pastas being made in 
neighboring Slovenia & Switzerland too. Really excellent you include types 
like ... Blecs . That is a 
wonderful pasta!

Apart from planning lunch, technically it's an interesting wiki. How you 
made it. It illustrates great use of tags among other things.

Buongiorno
Josiah

On Thursday, 9 July 2020 12:52:57 UTC+2, Duarte Farrajota Ramos wrote:
>
> Hey guys, do you like Italian pasta?
>
> After quite a few years on and off in the making I can finally say I 
> finished my long term project of documenting many common types of Italian 
> Pasta.
>
> http://pasta.duarteramos.pt
>
> [image: DPFR_ItalianPastaChart_S.jpg]
>
>
>
> It'd be totally off-topic here other than the site being powered by out 
> beloved TiddlyWiki. There is nothing fancy or particularly remarkable 
> technology wise, just an attestment to its versatility.
>
> Revealing a little more technical details about it, it was started in 
> version 5.1.11 back in 2016, and has been in the making for the past four 
> years, though most of the time it was actually just stalled as I 
> procrastinated or attended other matters.
> Makes use of plenty of Wiki Filters, View Templates, some SVG icons here 
> and there, some CSS numbered tables and other minor tricks I learned here 
> and there through the web.
> The original Past Chart  was 
> made from a large SVG file with links.
> It started with some basic research about pasta names and types, then went 
> on to actually try to figure out what they look like, describing them, and 
> real world measurements for reference that would allow the creation of the 
> 3D models.
> Illustrations were all made with Blender 3D , 
> rendered with EEVEE and labeled in Inkscape . 
> Original render was huge, 24000 x 12000 pixels, takes about forty minutes 
> to produce, and has to be rendered in four parts and cobbled together.
>
> Hope you find like it.

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[tw5] Re: http://evanbalster.com/ where are you!!!!

2020-07-09 Thread Stephen Wilson

Edit..

In the next tiddler I want 'start' and end to be +7 days after the start 
and end in tiddler *one*.

On Thursday, 9 July 2020 at 13:04:00 UTC+1 Stephen Wilson wrote:

> Found it...discussion which mentions Evans site going down.
>
> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/7jtgYsV6iXE/m/84D8Y34gCAAJ  
>
> https://joshuafontany.github.io/TiddlyWikiFormula/ 
>
> currently hosting.
>
> At the risk of hijacking my own thread, does anyone have examples of using 
> it to manipulate dates?
>
> I have a field, 'start' containing a date.  Want the field 'end' to 
> contain a date six days after the start.
>
> In the next tiddler I want 'start' and end to be +7 days after the start 
> and end in tiddler two.
>
> Will keep poking in the meantime.
>
> On Thursday, 9 July 2020 at 12:36:20 UTC+1 Mat wrote:
>
>> Whupp! That site is clearly hijacked leading to some "bitcoin news" in my 
>> local language(!). I did some malware searches on my own computer and 
>> nothing comes up so I conclude it is the site.
>>
>> <:-)
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: http://evanbalster.com/ where are you!!!!

2020-07-09 Thread Stephen Wilson

Found it...discussion which mentions Evans site going down.

https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/7jtgYsV6iXE/m/84D8Y34gCAAJ  

https://joshuafontany.github.io/TiddlyWikiFormula/ 

currently hosting.

At the risk of hijacking my own thread, does anyone have examples of using 
it to manipulate dates?

I have a field, 'start' containing a date.  Want the field 'end' to contain 
a date six days after the start.

In the next tiddler I want 'start' and end to be +7 days after the start 
and end in tiddler two.

Will keep poking in the meantime.

On Thursday, 9 July 2020 at 12:36:20 UTC+1 Mat wrote:

> Whupp! That site is clearly hijacked leading to some "bitcoin news" in my 
> local language(!). I did some malware searches on my own computer and 
> nothing comes up so I conclude it is the site.
>
> <:-)
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Italian Pasta - List of Pasta Varieties

2020-07-09 Thread Duarte Farrajota Ramos

Thanks, glad you like it :)


On Thursday, 9 July 2020 12:25:57 UTC+1, Mat wrote:
>
> P.S the embedded image in your original post here is not showing for me.
>

Indeed I somehow messed it up, replaced it with a smaller local upload. 
Thanks for the headsup

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[tw5] Re: http://evanbalster.com/ where are you!!!!

Whupp! That site is clearly hijacked leading to some "bitcoin news" in my 
local language(!). I did some malware searches on my own computer and 
nothing comes up so I conclude it is the site.

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: Italian Pasta - List of Pasta Varieties

P.S the embedded image in your original post here is not showing for me.

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: Italian Pasta - List of Pasta Varieties

Excellentissimo!

What a fun creation! IMO it will serve (no pun intended) as a great 
reference example on tiddlywiki.com. I hope @Jeremy will add it.

An un-asked for opinion: The background should be pasta yellow ;-)

<:-)

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[tw5] http://evanbalster.com/ where are you!!!!

2020-07-09 Thread needco...@gmail.com

http://evanbalster.com/tiddlywiki/ 

seems to have gone! :(
I'm sure this cam up before, and someone cloned the formula plugin 
somewhere (with an update?), but my google groups searches can't seem to 
find the thread...
The wayback machine has a snapshot from Nov last year.
Was just hoping I could get some date examples and usage from the site.
Hope your ok Evan!

Stephen

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[tw5] Re: Italian Pasta - List of Pasta Varieties

2020-07-09 Thread Birthe C

Hi Duarte

It sure looks good and is a good example of what tiddlywiki can do - and of 
course a testament to your ability to stick to your subject and keep on 
year in and year out. It sure must be a labour of love.

I can hardly bear to tell you, but I got hungry - just some pasta, any 
pasta ;-)

Thanks for sharing,

Birthe

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[tw5] Re: [tw] Re: Exporting several tiddlers to a single document (doc or pdf)

2020-07-09 Thread Matthew Petty

Hi, I know this is very old, but is this "combined page with internal 
links" still available in 5.1.22? How would I use it?

On Tuesday, 31 December 2013 at 15:21:35 UTC+4 jeremy...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Octavi
>
> For TW5, I've just committed an example of generating an all-in-one static 
> HTML representation of a wiki, with wiki links represented as internal 
> #anchor links:
>
>
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/b9e80a270b7f67db816e9b06e2f71f9c9dd86c17
>
> The change will show up in 5.0.6. Let me know how you get on,
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 7:42 PM, okido  wrote:
>
>> Hi Octavi,
>>
>> To give you some ideas I generate documents from TWc in 2 different ways:
>>
>>1. Create a HTML file from tiddlers with style sheets, svg graphs 
>>etc. all included, this requires js coding, although there is a plugin 
>> for 
>>html export in TWc.
>>I abandoned this path as it becomes more and more complicated to save 
>>to the local file system.
>>Once you have a HTML file on the file system print the whole page 
>>with cutepdf or easypdf, page numbering is done by FF. 
>>2. Create the whole document as one large tiddler by inclusion. 
>>Occasionally I set the page breaks by hand.
>>Printing is done again with cutepdf or easypdf. You might need a 
>>print stylesheet to hide certain TW5 elements.
>>
>> I would regard No. 2 as being the best option right now that can be used 
>> in TW5.
>> If you use node.js you can generate static html pages from a TW5, it 
>> might be possible to selected only these pages that you need and convert 
>> them with phantomjs to pdf.
>>
>> Goodluck, Okido
>>
>> 2013年12月29日日曜日 17時16分41秒 UTC+1 Octavi:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am looking for the best way to export several tiddlers (probably 
>>> hundreds) into a single document (for example a Word document or a PDF), 
>>> that can be printed as a book. I am using the new version of tiddlyWiki 
>>> (5.0)
>>>
>>> One possibility is creating a big tiddler with all other tiddlers 
>>> transcluded in it (using the syntax {{TiddlerName}}). Then export it as 
>>> html, open it in Microsoft Word or OpenOffice, add the table of contents, 
>>> list of figures, page numbering and so on and print it to PDF.
>>>
>>> The main problem is that the links between tiddlers don't translate into 
>>> links between sections of the book.
>>>
>>> Does anyone has used tiddlywiki to write a big document or a book?
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>> Octavi
>>>
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[tw5] Re: [discussion] Using Tags and Fields

2020-07-09 Thread bimlas

kuzi,

If you would like to use tags and fields side-by-side, you may be 
interested in Locator plugin (https://bimlas.gitlab.io/tw5-locator/) which 
you can use to search for any field values(including tags), see 
https://bimlas.gitlab.io/tw5-locator/#Narrow%20list%20of%20search%20results%2C%20search%20for%20field%20values
 
for an example.

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[tw5] Re: Autoscroll in TW

Adithya B M wrote:
>
> I am currently stuck at how to "do" something when the toolbar button is 
> clicked. Are there any tutorials about this?
>

Well, a toolbar button typically includes a ButtonWidget 
 which is a typical widget 
used for firing actions, i.e by containing ActionWidgets 
. There are ways to send 
messages 
but this is definitely not my 
expertise, I extremely rarely use these and I do quite a bit of wikitext 
coding... but then, maybe I'm missing out on something.

You cannot execute some javascript in TW in the usual webpage sense. The TW 
system intentionally removes the

[tw5] Re: How I configure TiddlyWiki instances (guide in the works)

CJ Veniot wrote:
>
> Please, if you have any ideas/questions/suggestions/comments/jokes/ 
> anecdotes , I always welcome all of those something silly.
>

Beyond mere info, I think it is a good idea with ready made setups that 
people can download. It does mean some responsibility to update it as the 
core updates.

By using the InfoMechanism 
 you can make a setup so 
that the user sees one thing on the presented wiki and another when they 
download and open it. I used this for http://tiddlywiki5.tiddlyspot.com which 
is a ready made setup that users download (or, really, *upload *to a 
tiddlyspot they create). The default tiddler merely appears different 
depending on domain.

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: Autoscroll in TW

2020-07-09 Thread Adithya B M

Hi Mat, 

The tiddler is longer than one viewport.

I am currently stuck at how to "do" something when the toolbar button is 
clicked. Are there any tutorials about this?

This is what I understand (I might be wrong) : Some "message" is sent on 
clicking of the button How to add a listener for this message? How can I 
execute some javascript on clicking of that button?

On Thursday, July 9, 2020 at 6:03:49 AM UTC+5:30, Mat wrote:
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> I made this ticker  a few years ago. Don't 
> think I ever published it. Maybe it can be used as a starting point?
>
> <:-)
>

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[tw5] Re: Presenting: SideEditor 2.0 - A live editor floating by the river side...

2020-07-09 Thread Saq Imtiaz

I think it's one of the advantages of packaging as a plugin, installing the new 
version automatically removes everything added by the previous version.

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[tw5] Re: Presenting: SideEditor 2.0 - A live editor floating by the river side...