[tw5] Re: Has anyone noticed that the "delete" button is off-center in the "more" dropdown list?

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Yes and it looked okay in the prerelease.
The difference is:

\whitespace trim

In tiddler:$:/core/ui/Buttons/delete

Birthe

mandag den 1. februar 2021 kl. 23.17.26 UTC+1 skrev si:

>
> Since the new version, if you click on the "more" button on the View 
> Toolbar the "delete" button is out of line with the rest.
>
> It seems unlikely that I am the only person to have noticed, but I thought 
> I'd mention it just in case.
>

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[tw5] Re: Seeking reviewers for an upcoming TiddlyWiki textbook (both experts and beginners)

[springa...@gmail.com]

I'm an absolute beginner.  I'd love to help proofread it if you still need 
volunteers

On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 7:34:13 PM UTC-4 Soren Bjornstad wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> As the end of the year approaches and I start planning personal goals for 
> next year, I thought I'd share an early update on a project I'm really 
> excited about and hope will be a boon for the TiddlyWiki community: a 
> TiddlyWiki textbook (written in TiddlyWiki, of course).
>
> Right now we have (mostly) good technical documentation for advanced 
> users, a thriving Google group, and plenty of introductions to TiddlyWiki, 
> but nothing that bridges the gap by helping new users who are serious about 
> learning the ins and outs of TiddlyWiki to build a complete understanding 
> of TiddlyWiki concepts. That's what I'm hoping to fix.
>
> One of the other things I'm excited about is my included prototype of a 
> mnemonic 
> medium 
>  in 
> TiddlyWiki built on top of my TiddlyRemember plugin. This allows simple 
> prompts to be embedded in the text, then reviewed at regular intervals 
> controlled by a spaced-repetition algorithm, either with a simple 
> native-TiddlyWiki reviewer or in Anki  via 
> TiddlyRemember. With this medium, learning and retaining large amounts of 
> new terminology and syntax is much easier.
>
> [image: Screenshot from 2020-12-30 17-08-30.png]
>
> I've been working on this off and on for a few months and am hoping that 
> within the next month or two, I'll have a solid draft. At that point I 
> would like to send this out to a handful of people for an initial, rigorous 
> round of private review and feedback. I would like to involve several 
> expert users and several beginners (I'd love to see 2-3 in each category). 
> Here's what I'd hope to hear from these reviewers:
>
> Experts:
>
>- See any outright errors? I'm sure I made a few.
>- Did I miss any concepts or features that you use all the time or 
>think are essential?
>- For the resources at the end: What major resources or plugins would 
>be worth including that I don't know about or haven't included?
>
> Beginners:
>
>- Did everything I wrote make sense?
>- How well did the mnemonic medium work? Were the prompts effective? 
>Did you understand how to use it?
>- Did your TiddlyWiki skills improve?
>- Were the exercises too hard? Too easy? Lacking enough information?
>- Roughly how long did it take to work through the book?
>
> I would be looking for a commitment to read through the whole book, 
> ideally do most of the exercises, and offer substantive feedback. The book 
> is currently about 70,000 words and includes plenty of exercises, so 
> although I have no data on how long it will take to work through the book 
> at this point, I can't imagine it would be a one-evening task. As 
> compensation, I can offer early access to the book, your name in the 
> acknowledgements, a $25 Amazon gift card (maybe more if there are fewer 
> reviewers or I can cram it into my budget), and a huge thank-you to anyone 
> who's willing to help out.
>
> If you're interested in being involved when the time comes, please let me 
> know here or by emailing contact at sorenbjornstad.com. If your ability 
> to help out depends on the timeline, please let me know and I'll see what I 
> can do.
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Best of 2020 and the Wish-list of 2021

[coda coder]

Late to the party, again... :/

WISH: Nested macros.

To be clear, 

<> <> embedded">>

I can dream, right?

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Re: [tw5] Re: Tamasha Presentation Plugin [planned for early Feb]

[coda coder]

> In the current release it is 34kB 

That's nothing! Good job!

>

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[tw5] Has anyone noticed that the "delete" button is off-center in the "more" dropdown list?

[si]

Since the new version, if you click on the "more" button on the View 
Toolbar the "delete" button is out of line with the rest.

It seems unlikely that I am the only person to have noticed, but I thought 
I'd mention it just in case.

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[tw5] display menu bar element only in wide mode

['torax...@googlemail.com' via TiddlyWiki]

Hi,

I tried to display an element only in wide mode. in narrow it is possible 
with the field "show-when=narrow", but assigning "wide" won't work. has 
someone a solution without modifying the plugin?

thanks.

cheers

ToraxMalu

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[tw5] Re: Common features within collection of tiddlers

[Charlie Veniot]

It really should be no problem, albeit a bit or work, to create a generic 
process that can report: "the list of commonalities in a specified set of 
tiddlers."

The process wouldn't need to know anything at all about what tags or what 
fields to consider.  It could simply consider all tags and all fields and 
all field values.

A bonus would be to allow some sort of inclusion or exclusion list: to say 
"just consider these features", or to say "all features except these."  
And/or a way to hide any reported item à la wysisyg as one is looking at 
the results of the query.  So click on any little associated reveal widget 
"not interested in this result" button.

That would be pretty cool.

*Aside old guy reminiscing*

Many moons ago in my CS "Discrete Structures" class, the prof gave us the 
bonus assignment "write a proof that the following is impossible to do or, 
alternatively, write the program to prove it can be done:  is it possible 
for a program, with no input, to contain itself in the program and output 
itself upon execution."  I thought: "hey, that's what a virus does."

One guy in the class wrote the proof that it could not be done.  He did a 
fantastic job.

I was the lone goof who wrote the program during an all-nighter in three 
large lines of GW-Basic code.

We both got equal bonus marks.  I probably should have learned something 
from that ...



On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 4:33:24 PM UTC-4 Mat wrote:

> bell...@gmail.com wrote:
>  
>
>> I would like to select, say, m people from a TiddlyWiki (somehow) then 
>> have the TiddlyWiki tell me what common features these people have. 
>>
>
> Do you mean without specifying what exact "common features" you are 
> looking for? What defines a "feature"? If you stick to well defined 
> "features" that you can actually refer to, then sure, it can be done. If it 
> is just any unspecified feature, the question is probably not meaningful.
>
> <:-)
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Setting to define additional system prefix?

[Joshua Fontany]

I like the idea of customizing the System prefixes... The Story "Tiddler 
ViewTemplate" also has some logic in the UI to recolor the `$:/` section of 
tiddler Titles. That may need to be changed as well, if you want the same 
2-tone title for all system tiddlers.

Best,
Joshua F

On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 2:14:26 AM UTC-8 jeremy...@gmail.com wrote:

> I think it would be feasible to have some kind of hidden setting for 
> customising the criteria of what constitutes a system tiddler, and it could 
> be pretty useful in some situations. For example, the $:/ sequence is 
> awkward to type, kind of intentionally as it’s supposed to act like a big, 
> obvious label. But one could imagine that if one were working with lots of 
> custom transclusion templates that it would be convenient to add, say, a 
> dash as an alternative system tiddler prefix. Then one could write things 
> like {{$:/core/images/down-arrow||-big}} instead 
> of {{$:/core/images/down-arrow||$:/big}}
>
> There is a single point in the JS code where we perform the system tiddler 
> check:
>
> exports.isSystemTiddler = function(title) {
> return title && title.indexOf("$:/") === 0;
> };
>
>
>
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/12f18474755c94362eef7191eafb532bafb743b1/core/modules/wiki.js#L206-L208
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
> On 29 Jan 2021, at 22:51, amreus  wrote:
>
>
> Can we define an alternative or additional string that is treated similar 
> to a "system" prefix?
>
> For example, I'd like to start tiddler titles with a '/' and have them 
> hidden by default and from lists and search like a system tiddler, but also 
> keep them separate from the official system hierarchy.  Also, the 
> "[is[system]]" filter would not see titles with this prefix.
>
> I know this is possible, but it would require modifying a number of system 
> tiddlers.  A setting to define such a prefix would be cool.
>
>
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[tw5] Re: Comment: GitHub "Discussions" Are Good ...

[Joshua Fontany]

Agreed, & great to see the discussions be so productive!

Best,
Joshua F

On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 4:45:51 AM UTC-8 TiddlyTweeter wrote:

> Further to my comments on the value of GitHub Discussions...
>
> One of the most productive discussions I ever had was recently, about 
> revising PMario's Bundler plugin to include a deletion mechanism.
>
> That discussion is complete. And with a robust solution.  The outcome is 
> wonderful. 
> 
>
> Best wishes
> TT
>
> On Wednesday, 27 January 2021 at 19:17:55 UTC+1 TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
>> Recently the old *TiddlyWikiDev* on Google Groups was "retired" as a 
>> place to discuss ideas/problems in favor of GitHub discussions.
>>
>> Actually I have found myself using the GitHub method frequently recently. 
>> Why? Because it is proving to be highly productive. The discussions tend to 
>> be more to the specific issue. The discipline of the GitHub posting method 
>> is I think very good for clarity!
>>
>> To give an example ... PMario & I are currently discussing possible 
>> improvements to his Bundler plugin at a pace. 
>> https://github.com/wikilabs/plugins/discussions/61
>>
>> I just thought you might be interested in my distinct upvote for the 
>> viability of GitHub Discussions on technical matters.
>>
>> Best wishes
>> TT
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Common features within collection of tiddlers

[Mat]

bell...@gmail.com wrote:
 

> I would like to select, say, m people from a TiddlyWiki (somehow) then 
> have the TiddlyWiki tell me what common features these people have. 
>

Do you mean without specifying what exact "common features" you are looking 
for? What defines a "feature"? If you stick to well defined "features" that 
you can actually refer to, then sure, it can be done. If it is just any 
unspecified feature, the question is probably not meaningful.

<:-)

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Re: [tw5] Re: [ANN] Notebook theme v1.4.0 is out!

[Nicolas Petton]

Michael Wiktowy  writes:

Hi Michael,

> Having said that, some feedback:
> * It appears that the additional sidebars are missing their tab labels 
> unless the caption field is set. I would expect the behaviour to be like 
> default where if caption is missing, it uses the tiddler title as a tab 
> label.

Thanks! That's fixed in master, I'll publish a patch release soon.

> * Wikitext is ignored in the sidebar. I use "!!" to provide headers and 
> your theme seems to ignore that (but does render toc macros properly). Is 
> there a way to re-enable this wikifying of that text?

Yes, I'll push a fix for that as well!


> Thanks for the nice clean theme ... it is really attractive and
> useful.

Thank you :-)

Nico

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[tw5] Re: Common features within collection of tiddlers

[Charlie Veniot]

Although I may be a cheap date ...

On a whim and for the $hit$ and the giggle$: 

I am currently looking for employment (my online curriculum vitae à la 
TiddlyWiki ).  Little and fun 
side-gigs, enough to keep me afloat, are certainly welcome.  Contact me 
privately via my contact form  to 
discuss.

So if of any value to the community and with adequate funding (that would 
be the not-so-cheap-part o' me), I can build an open-source something 
generic enough that can handle this kind of purpose anywhere for anybody.

BTW: I'm kind of big on the idea of "release early and release often"  
(i.e. proof of regular progress) and the ability for any party to pull the 
plug at any time for whatever reason, for example: change of 
scope/requirements, progress too slow, solution too complicated, complete 
and utter failure, too many hugs from me ...  Some sort of milestone basis.

On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 1:25:34 PM UTC-4 bell...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> Thank you both. What I conclude from this is that I need to learn (quite a 
> bit) more about TiddlyWiki — and then all of this will become clear to me.
> On Monday, 1 February 2021 at 11:42:33 UTC-5 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Can still be done.  A bit complicated to build that kind of filtering 
>> smarts, but I think that would be a really fun project to work on for 
>> somebody who has the time.
>>
>> If the result is a simple count of tiddlers for each individual tag, and 
>> a simple count of tiddlers for each possible value in a field (that done 
>> for each field), that would be easier than getting counts for each possible 
>> combination of tags + each possible combination of field values.
>>
>> And the process does not need to be told what tags exist, what fields 
>> exist, nor what field values exist.  The process can figure each of those 
>> out automagically, with maybe just a hard-coded "exclude" list if there are 
>> certain kinds of tags, and/or fields, and/or field values that should be 
>> excluded from the process.
>>
>> On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 12:08:15 PM UTC-4 bell...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you, Charlie. But, alas, no.
>>> I would like to select, say, m people from a TiddlyWiki (somehow) then 
>>> have the TiddlyWiki tell me what common features these people have. 
>>>
>>> On Monday, 1 February 2021 at 10:23:54 UTC-5 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Say you are interested in the collection of people who are librarians, 
 and you want all of these librarians grouped by those 
 features/characteristics.

 Do you want the results to look like:

- 10 librarians were born in 1965, and favourite author is Margaret 
Atwood
- 2 librarians were born in 1970, and favourite author is J.R. 
Tolkien
- 5 librarians were born in 1971, and favourite author is Margaret 
Atwood
- 7 librarians were born in 1971, and favourite author is J.R. 
Tolkien
- 3 librarians were born in 1982, and favourite author is Agatha 
Christie
- 

 If so, that can certainly be done.


 On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 10:35:49 AM UTC-4 bell...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Suppose that the Tiddlers represent individual people, and that within 
> each of these Tiddlers there are facts about those people that they have 
> in 
> common. The facts could be represented in any way available in 
> TiddlyWiki. 
> For instance, a fact might be a person's occupation or birth year or 
> favourite author.
>
> On Sunday, 31 January 2021 at 21:10:48 UTC-5 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Although I say ABSOLUTELY (!!!), what I have in mind involves a 
>> horrid mess of filters in a process that needs to know each and every 
>> feature/characteristic to consider.
>>
>> It ain't pretty if features/characteristics are few and simple, and 
>> it is downright ugly otherwise.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, January 31, 2021 at 4:19:02 PM UTC-4 bell...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Can I identify a collection of Tiddlers within a wiki and have 
>>> TiddlyWiki tell me which features or characteristics are shared by 
>>> those 
>>> Tiddlers?
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Common features within collection of tiddlers

[Bill Bell]

Thank you both. What I conclude from this is that I need to learn (quite a 
bit) more about TiddlyWiki — and then all of this will become clear to me.
On Monday, 1 February 2021 at 11:42:33 UTC-5 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:

> Can still be done.  A bit complicated to build that kind of filtering 
> smarts, but I think that would be a really fun project to work on for 
> somebody who has the time.
>
> If the result is a simple count of tiddlers for each individual tag, and a 
> simple count of tiddlers for each possible value in a field (that done for 
> each field), that would be easier than getting counts for each possible 
> combination of tags + each possible combination of field values.
>
> And the process does not need to be told what tags exist, what fields 
> exist, nor what field values exist.  The process can figure each of those 
> out automagically, with maybe just a hard-coded "exclude" list if there are 
> certain kinds of tags, and/or fields, and/or field values that should be 
> excluded from the process.
>
> On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 12:08:15 PM UTC-4 bell...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thank you, Charlie. But, alas, no.
>> I would like to select, say, m people from a TiddlyWiki (somehow) then 
>> have the TiddlyWiki tell me what common features these people have. 
>>
>> On Monday, 1 February 2021 at 10:23:54 UTC-5 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Say you are interested in the collection of people who are librarians, 
>>> and you want all of these librarians grouped by those 
>>> features/characteristics.
>>>
>>> Do you want the results to look like:
>>>
>>>- 10 librarians were born in 1965, and favourite author is Margaret 
>>>Atwood
>>>- 2 librarians were born in 1970, and favourite author is J.R. 
>>>Tolkien
>>>- 5 librarians were born in 1971, and favourite author is Margaret 
>>>Atwood
>>>- 7 librarians were born in 1971, and favourite author is J.R. 
>>>Tolkien
>>>- 3 librarians were born in 1982, and favourite author is Agatha 
>>>Christie
>>>- 
>>>
>>> If so, that can certainly be done.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 10:35:49 AM UTC-4 bell...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Suppose that the Tiddlers represent individual people, and that within 
 each of these Tiddlers there are facts about those people that they have 
 in 
 common. The facts could be represented in any way available in TiddlyWiki. 
 For instance, a fact might be a person's occupation or birth year or 
 favourite author.

 On Sunday, 31 January 2021 at 21:10:48 UTC-5 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:

> Although I say ABSOLUTELY (!!!), what I have in mind involves a horrid 
> mess of filters in a process that needs to know each and every 
> feature/characteristic to consider.
>
> It ain't pretty if features/characteristics are few and simple, and it 
> is downright ugly otherwise.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, January 31, 2021 at 4:19:02 PM UTC-4 bell...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Can I identify a collection of Tiddlers within a wiki and have 
>> TiddlyWiki tell me which features or characteristics are shared by those 
>> Tiddlers?
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Bag Tag?

[TiddlyTweeter]

Tx PMario! That clarification matters!

PMario wrote:

> You __can not__ use it safely! It will cause problems as soon as you want 
> to work with a server-side!
>

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[tw5] Re: Common features within collection of tiddlers

[Charlie Veniot]

Can still be done.  A bit complicated to build that kind of filtering 
smarts, but I think that would be a really fun project to work on for 
somebody who has the time.

If the result is a simple count of tiddlers for each individual tag, and a 
simple count of tiddlers for each possible value in a field (that done for 
each field), that would be easier than getting counts for each possible 
combination of tags + each possible combination of field values.

And the process does not need to be told what tags exist, what fields 
exist, nor what field values exist.  The process can figure each of those 
out automagically, with maybe just a hard-coded "exclude" list if there are 
certain kinds of tags, and/or fields, and/or field values that should be 
excluded from the process.

On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 12:08:15 PM UTC-4 bell...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thank you, Charlie. But, alas, no.
> I would like to select, say, m people from a TiddlyWiki (somehow) then 
> have the TiddlyWiki tell me what common features these people have. 
>
> On Monday, 1 February 2021 at 10:23:54 UTC-5 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Say you are interested in the collection of people who are librarians, 
>> and you want all of these librarians grouped by those 
>> features/characteristics.
>>
>> Do you want the results to look like:
>>
>>- 10 librarians were born in 1965, and favourite author is Margaret 
>>Atwood
>>- 2 librarians were born in 1970, and favourite author is J.R. Tolkien
>>- 5 librarians were born in 1971, and favourite author is Margaret 
>>Atwood
>>- 7 librarians were born in 1971, and favourite author is J.R. Tolkien
>>- 3 librarians were born in 1982, and favourite author is Agatha 
>>Christie
>>- 
>>
>> If so, that can certainly be done.
>>
>>
>> On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 10:35:49 AM UTC-4 bell...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Suppose that the Tiddlers represent individual people, and that within 
>>> each of these Tiddlers there are facts about those people that they have in 
>>> common. The facts could be represented in any way available in TiddlyWiki. 
>>> For instance, a fact might be a person's occupation or birth year or 
>>> favourite author.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, 31 January 2021 at 21:10:48 UTC-5 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Although I say ABSOLUTELY (!!!), what I have in mind involves a horrid 
 mess of filters in a process that needs to know each and every 
 feature/characteristic to consider.

 It ain't pretty if features/characteristics are few and simple, and it 
 is downright ugly otherwise.



 On Sunday, January 31, 2021 at 4:19:02 PM UTC-4 bell...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Can I identify a collection of Tiddlers within a wiki and have 
> TiddlyWiki tell me which features or characteristics are shared by those 
> Tiddlers?



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[tw5] Re: Common features within collection of tiddlers

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Tiddlers can have fields. So you can assign fields for birth year, 
favourite author, occupation, etc. As in all databases, it's important that 
the input information be consistent. So you wouldn't want a person's 
occupation to be input variously as Doctor, Physician, Radiologist. Or a 
favorite author to sometimes be Tolstoy and others as "tolstoy". Or 
"Toystory". You can make a template to help with tiddler creation,  so that 
when you match by favorite authors, it will always be by "Tolstoy" .


On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 6:35:49 AM UTC-8 bell...@gmail.com wrote:

> Suppose that the Tiddlers represent individual people, and that within 
> each of these Tiddlers there are facts about those people that they have in 
> common. The facts could be represented in any way available in TiddlyWiki. 
> For instance, a fact might be a person's occupation or birth year or 
> favourite author.
>
> On Sunday, 31 January 2021 at 21:10:48 UTC-5 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Although I say ABSOLUTELY (!!!), what I have in mind involves a horrid 
>> mess of filters in a process that needs to know each and every 
>> feature/characteristic to consider.
>>
>> It ain't pretty if features/characteristics are few and simple, and it is 
>> downright ugly otherwise.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, January 31, 2021 at 4:19:02 PM UTC-4 bell...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Can I identify a collection of Tiddlers within a wiki and have 
>>> TiddlyWiki tell me which features or characteristics are shared by those 
>>> Tiddlers?
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Common features within collection of tiddlers

[Bill Bell]

Thank you, Charlie. But, alas, no.
I would like to select, say, m people from a TiddlyWiki (somehow) then have 
the TiddlyWiki tell me what common features these people have. 

On Monday, 1 February 2021 at 10:23:54 UTC-5 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:

> Say you are interested in the collection of people who are librarians, and 
> you want all of these librarians grouped by those features/characteristics.
>
> Do you want the results to look like:
>
>- 10 librarians were born in 1965, and favourite author is Margaret 
>Atwood
>- 2 librarians were born in 1970, and favourite author is J.R. Tolkien
>- 5 librarians were born in 1971, and favourite author is Margaret 
>Atwood
>- 7 librarians were born in 1971, and favourite author is J.R. Tolkien
>- 3 librarians were born in 1982, and favourite author is Agatha 
>Christie
>- 
>
> If so, that can certainly be done.
>
>
> On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 10:35:49 AM UTC-4 bell...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Suppose that the Tiddlers represent individual people, and that within 
>> each of these Tiddlers there are facts about those people that they have in 
>> common. The facts could be represented in any way available in TiddlyWiki. 
>> For instance, a fact might be a person's occupation or birth year or 
>> favourite author.
>>
>> On Sunday, 31 January 2021 at 21:10:48 UTC-5 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Although I say ABSOLUTELY (!!!), what I have in mind involves a horrid 
>>> mess of filters in a process that needs to know each and every 
>>> feature/characteristic to consider.
>>>
>>> It ain't pretty if features/characteristics are few and simple, and it 
>>> is downright ugly otherwise.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, January 31, 2021 at 4:19:02 PM UTC-4 bell...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Can I identify a collection of Tiddlers within a wiki and have 
 TiddlyWiki tell me which features or characteristics are shared by those 
 Tiddlers?
>>>
>>>

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Re: [tw5] Bag Tag?

[PMario]

On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 1:15:46 PM UTC+1 TiddlyTweeter wrote:

> Thanks  jeremy...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>> TT: Ha! I just tried adding a field called "*bag*" to a TW in the 
>> editor. It won't accept it. I assume we are honoring TiddlySpace legacy in 
>> that behavior?
>>
>>
>> The field *is* added, it’s just that the “bag” field is hidden from the 
>> field list in the edit template. You can check using the tiddler info panel.
>>
>
> *It is actually useful to know that *for me. It is a purely personal like 
> for the word "bag". I use it outside TW extensively to mean a kind of 
> "suitcase"---a container category. Knowing I can use it safely in TW is 
> good news. I don't need see it so long as I know it is there.
>

See: https://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlerFields

You __can not__ use it safely! It will cause problems as soon as you want 
to work with a server-side!

-mario

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[tw5] Re: Common features within collection of tiddlers

[Charlie Veniot]

Say you are interested in the collection of people who are librarians, and 
you want all of these librarians grouped by those features/characteristics.

Do you want the results to look like:

   - 10 librarians were born in 1965, and favourite author is Margaret 
   Atwood
   - 2 librarians were born in 1970, and favourite author is J.R. Tolkien
   - 5 librarians were born in 1971, and favourite author is Margaret Atwood
   - 7 librarians were born in 1971, and favourite author is J.R. Tolkien
   - 3 librarians were born in 1982, and favourite author is Agatha Christie
   - 

If so, that can certainly be done.


On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 10:35:49 AM UTC-4 bell...@gmail.com wrote:

> Suppose that the Tiddlers represent individual people, and that within 
> each of these Tiddlers there are facts about those people that they have in 
> common. The facts could be represented in any way available in TiddlyWiki. 
> For instance, a fact might be a person's occupation or birth year or 
> favourite author.
>
> On Sunday, 31 January 2021 at 21:10:48 UTC-5 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Although I say ABSOLUTELY (!!!), what I have in mind involves a horrid 
>> mess of filters in a process that needs to know each and every 
>> feature/characteristic to consider.
>>
>> It ain't pretty if features/characteristics are few and simple, and it is 
>> downright ugly otherwise.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, January 31, 2021 at 4:19:02 PM UTC-4 bell...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Can I identify a collection of Tiddlers within a wiki and have 
>>> TiddlyWiki tell me which features or characteristics are shared by those 
>>> Tiddlers?
>>
>>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Tamasha Presentation Plugin [planned for early Feb]

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Hi Ste, CodaCoder,

Many thanks for your support and feedback. I am working on documentation
and optimization of code.
I will try to keep it small and clean. In the current release it is 34kB.

Extra features like extra animations, extra themes, ... will be released in
sub plugins.
The exciting news is Tamasha is supported by two experts in the field, so I
am very confident to improve Tamasha and make it a useful tool.

Best wishes
Mohammad


On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 5:28 PM Ste  wrote:

> Excellent update. All slides are now readable in full on my phone/
> portrait mode!
>
> On Monday, 1 February 2021 at 13:47:39 UTC coda coder wrote:
>
>> STARRED.
>>
>> Very clean, very impressive.
>>
>> On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 1:02:54 AM UTC-6 Mohammad wrote:
>>
>>> Tamasha app and plugin has got a new beta update. This is only for test
>>> purposes!
>>>
>>> See Tamasha 0.4.2
>>>
>>> Code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Tamasha
>>> Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Tamasha/
>>>
>>> Feb 1st, 2021
>>>
>>> [NEW] slide background color for individual tiddler was added
>>> [FIXED] cleanup CSS and user interface
>>> [FIXED] the progressbar macro was merged with progressbar ui
>>> [FIXED] the progressbar show correct percent for first slide
>>> [FIXED] all navigation macros included go home and goe end were put in
>>> the single tiddler $:/plugins/kookma/tamasha/macros/navigator
>>>
>>> *Please star it, if you like it.*
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> Mohammad
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 6:55 AM Mohammad Rahmani 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Tamasha is a pure wikitext (pure Tiddlywiki scripts no JS) plugin for
 presentation and slideshow.
 The idea was taken from my older plugin Tiddlyshow (
 https://kookma.github.io/Tiddlyshow/)

 The reason to develop another presentation plugin was to have a simpler
 and a more natural TW plugin. Tamasha is around 20kb and has many features
 of MS Powerpoint and Google Slides and Beamer LaTeX. The other reason was
 the increasing need of such tools for my own online classes. The lectures
 can be distributed simply as a single or few Tiddlywiki files.

 To shine your ideas buried in tiddlers just tag them and fire your
 presentation by calling a small macro whenever you want. A tiddler can be
 part of several presentations.
 You can even have two or more presentations in a single tiddler just by
 calling the presenter macro several times with different settings.

 It supports almost all Tiddlywiki features, and works with most plugins
 and themes, e.g. KaTeX, Highlight.js, Shiraz, Streams, Todolist, Notebook,
 Projectify, ...
 Tamasha supports templates (to customize what to display) and themes
 (fonts, colors and fancy things,...)
 Like all commercial presentation software, it supports keyboard
 shortcuts for navigation, ...

 I plan to add features like export a presentation to PDF, export to zip
 file, zooming and online annotation and laser pointer, ...

 I have attached a small video to present the under development Tamasha.

 I like to *get your feedback* in advance to see what you like to have
 in a presentation plugin. Share with me your wish list.


 Best wishes
 Mohammad

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Re: [tw5] Setting to define additional system prefix?

[amreus]

Thanks Jeremy, that's perfect. 

On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 5:14:26 AM UTC-5  wrote:

> I think it would be feasible to have some kind of hidden setting for 
> customising the criteria of what constitutes a system tiddler, and it could 
> be pretty useful in some situations. For example, the $:/ sequence is 
> awkward to type, kind of intentionally as it’s supposed to act like a big, 
> obvious label. But one could imagine that if one were working with lots of 
> custom transclusion templates that it would be convenient to add, say, a 
> dash as an alternative system tiddler prefix. Then one could write things 
> like {{$:/core/images/down-arrow||-big}} instead 
> of {{$:/core/images/down-arrow||$:/big}}
>
> There is a single point in the JS code where we perform the system tiddler 
> check:
>
> exports.isSystemTiddler = function(title) {
> return title && title.indexOf("$:/") === 0;
> };
>
>
>
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/12f18474755c94362eef7191eafb532bafb743b1/core/modules/wiki.js#L206-L208
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Common features within collection of tiddlers

[Bill Bell]

Suppose that the Tiddlers represent individual people, and that within each 
of these Tiddlers there are facts about those people that they have in 
common. The facts could be represented in any way available in TiddlyWiki. 
For instance, a fact might be a person's occupation or birth year or 
favourite author.

On Sunday, 31 January 2021 at 21:10:48 UTC-5 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:

> Although I say ABSOLUTELY (!!!), what I have in mind involves a horrid 
> mess of filters in a process that needs to know each and every 
> feature/characteristic to consider.
>
> It ain't pretty if features/characteristics are few and simple, and it is 
> downright ugly otherwise.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, January 31, 2021 at 4:19:02 PM UTC-4 bell...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Can I identify a collection of Tiddlers within a wiki and have TiddlyWiki 
>> tell me which features or characteristics are shared by those Tiddlers?
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Tamasha Presentation Plugin [planned for early Feb]

[Ste]

Excellent update. All slides are now readable in full on my phone/ portrait 
mode! 

On Monday, 1 February 2021 at 13:47:39 UTC coda coder wrote:

> STARRED.
>
> Very clean, very impressive.
>
> On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 1:02:54 AM UTC-6 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Tamasha app and plugin has got a new beta update. This is only for test 
>> purposes!
>>
>> See Tamasha 0.4.2 
>>
>> Code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Tamasha
>> Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Tamasha/
>>
>> Feb 1st, 2021
>>
>> [NEW] slide background color for individual tiddler was added
>> [FIXED] cleanup CSS and user interface
>> [FIXED] the progressbar macro was merged with progressbar ui
>> [FIXED] the progressbar show correct percent for first slide
>> [FIXED] all navigation macros included go home and goe end were put in 
>> the single tiddler $:/plugins/kookma/tamasha/macros/navigator
>>
>> *Please star it, if you like it.*
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 6:55 AM Mohammad Rahmani  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Tamasha is a pure wikitext (pure Tiddlywiki scripts no JS) plugin for 
>>> presentation and slideshow.
>>> The idea was taken from my older plugin Tiddlyshow (
>>> https://kookma.github.io/Tiddlyshow/)
>>>
>>> The reason to develop another presentation plugin was to have a simpler 
>>> and a more natural TW plugin. Tamasha is around 20kb and has many features 
>>> of MS Powerpoint and Google Slides and Beamer LaTeX. The other reason was 
>>> the increasing need of such tools for my own online classes. The lectures 
>>> can be distributed simply as a single or few Tiddlywiki files.
>>>
>>> To shine your ideas buried in tiddlers just tag them and fire your 
>>> presentation by calling a small macro whenever you want. A tiddler can be 
>>> part of several presentations.
>>> You can even have two or more presentations in a single tiddler just by 
>>> calling the presenter macro several times with different settings.
>>>
>>> It supports almost all Tiddlywiki features, and works with most plugins 
>>> and themes, e.g. KaTeX, Highlight.js, Shiraz, Streams, Todolist, Notebook, 
>>> Projectify, ...
>>> Tamasha supports templates (to customize what to display) and themes 
>>> (fonts, colors and fancy things,...)
>>> Like all commercial presentation software, it supports keyboard 
>>> shortcuts for navigation, ...
>>>
>>> I plan to add features like export a presentation to PDF, export to zip 
>>> file, zooming and online annotation and laser pointer, ...
>>>
>>> I have attached a small video to present the under development Tamasha.
>>>
>>> I like to *get your feedback* in advance to see what you like to have 
>>> in a presentation plugin. Share with me your wish list.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> Mohammad
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Tamasha Presentation Plugin [planned for early Feb]

[coda coder]

STARRED.

Very clean, very impressive.

On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 1:02:54 AM UTC-6 Mohammad wrote:

> Tamasha app and plugin has got a new beta update. This is only for test 
> purposes!
>
> See Tamasha 0.4.2 
>
> Code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Tamasha
> Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Tamasha/
>
> Feb 1st, 2021
>
> [NEW] slide background color for individual tiddler was added
> [FIXED] cleanup CSS and user interface
> [FIXED] the progressbar macro was merged with progressbar ui
> [FIXED] the progressbar show correct percent for first slide
> [FIXED] all navigation macros included go home and goe end were put in the 
> single tiddler $:/plugins/kookma/tamasha/macros/navigator
>
> *Please star it, if you like it.*
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 6:55 AM Mohammad Rahmani  
> wrote:
>
>> Tamasha is a pure wikitext (pure Tiddlywiki scripts no JS) plugin for 
>> presentation and slideshow.
>> The idea was taken from my older plugin Tiddlyshow (
>> https://kookma.github.io/Tiddlyshow/)
>>
>> The reason to develop another presentation plugin was to have a simpler 
>> and a more natural TW plugin. Tamasha is around 20kb and has many features 
>> of MS Powerpoint and Google Slides and Beamer LaTeX. The other reason was 
>> the increasing need of such tools for my own online classes. The lectures 
>> can be distributed simply as a single or few Tiddlywiki files.
>>
>> To shine your ideas buried in tiddlers just tag them and fire your 
>> presentation by calling a small macro whenever you want. A tiddler can be 
>> part of several presentations.
>> You can even have two or more presentations in a single tiddler just by 
>> calling the presenter macro several times with different settings.
>>
>> It supports almost all Tiddlywiki features, and works with most plugins 
>> and themes, e.g. KaTeX, Highlight.js, Shiraz, Streams, Todolist, Notebook, 
>> Projectify, ...
>> Tamasha supports templates (to customize what to display) and themes 
>> (fonts, colors and fancy things,...)
>> Like all commercial presentation software, it supports keyboard shortcuts 
>> for navigation, ...
>>
>> I plan to add features like export a presentation to PDF, export to zip 
>> file, zooming and online annotation and laser pointer, ...
>>
>> I have attached a small video to present the under development Tamasha.
>>
>> I like to *get your feedback* in advance to see what you like to have in 
>> a presentation plugin. Share with me your wish list.
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Release: Muuri StoryView v0.2.0

[TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao BTC. or should I call you "Murray" :-).

The GitHub repository is located at 
> https://github.com/BurningTreeC/tiddlywiki-muuri
>
> For issues please consider leaving me an issue over at GitHub ...
>

 I wrote one. 

I thought it might work well-er (i.e. to the real point of improved usage) 
IF your GitHub allowed "Discussions".
IMO leverage of Muuri needs *case materials* to illustrate its sheer power. 
End-users, I think can provide those, but there is a bit of hand-holding 
needed?
I think "Discussions" can do that, "Issues" likely not.

Best wishes (GREAT tool)
TT

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[tw5] Re: Comment: GitHub "Discussions" Are Good ...

[TiddlyTweeter]

Further to my comments on the value of GitHub Discussions...

One of the most productive discussions I ever had was recently, about 
revising PMario's Bundler plugin to include a deletion mechanism.

That discussion is complete. And with a robust solution.  The outcome is 
wonderful. 


Best wishes
TT

On Wednesday, 27 January 2021 at 19:17:55 UTC+1 TiddlyTweeter wrote:

> Recently the old *TiddlyWikiDev* on Google Groups was "retired" as a 
> place to discuss ideas/problems in favor of GitHub discussions.
>
> Actually I have found myself using the GitHub method frequently recently. 
> Why? Because it is proving to be highly productive. The discussions tend to 
> be more to the specific issue. The discipline of the GitHub posting method 
> is I think very good for clarity!
>
> To give an example ... PMario & I are currently discussing possible 
> improvements to his Bundler plugin at a pace. 
> https://github.com/wikilabs/plugins/discussions/61
>
> I just thought you might be interested in my distinct upvote for the 
> viability of GitHub Discussions on technical matters.
>
> Best wishes
> TT
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Can tag adding trigger field creation?

[Misterel85]

Thanks for your input, Tones and Pit.W.

Sorry for this (very) long post again.

Here is an outline of how I see things in a tiddler. The aim is to avoid 
copying and pasting redundant information from one activity to the other 
with a little bit of automation. Any solution or idea to achieve that would 
be welcome.

---
Tiddler title: "This is one activity"
Contents: "A description of that activity. Blah blah…"

Tag1 name: thisdramabook
Tag2 name: dramatis
TagN, etc.
=> Each of these tags contain general reference about the source, for 
instance in Tag1: "This Drama Book - an extraordinary drama book". That 
info is then shown into the activity tiddler via transclusion.
I tagged these tags with 'source' because I use a few other tags to build a 
table of contents.

Field1 name: thisdramabook
Field1 contents: 'page 15.'
Field2 name: dramatis
Field2 contents: "exercise 3, posted by John Doe on Wednesday 12th."
FieldN, etc.
=> Each field would contain specific details about where I found the 
activity itself in the source referenced by the tag. The field is created 
when I add its tag namesake and I can manually add contents to it, that 
would differ from an activity to the other.
---

So, if I need to print the activity, the text would be something like:

---
"This is one activity.

A description of that activity. Blah blah…

Source(s):
– This Drama Book - an extraordinary drama book - p. 15.
– Dramatis - an extraordinary drama website - exercise 3, posted by John 
Doe on Wednesday 12th."
– …
---


@Tones,
My answer to your question:
'do you want this field added every time any tag is added?'
would be 'yes', because I can't find any other (better) solution to what I 
am trying to achieve. I'd rather keep the specific source details away from 
the activity description.

@Pit.W.
You're quite right about not needing both a tag and a field to hold the 
same contents.
That's not what I want to do, but you'll notice that both are linked: a 
source detail field would be created in a tiddler only if there is a 
corresponding source tag.


TiddlyWiki makes me feel both amazed at what it can do, keen about what I 
could do with it, and frustrated with what I can't achieve! :-s

Stéphane

Le jeudi 28 janvier 2021 à 12:45:15 UTC+1, Pit.W. a écrit :

> Stéphane,
>
>
> I had the same issue and I solved it by creating a special button, which 
> adds both a tag and one or more fields.
>
> When using it for some time it occurred to me that - if I need both a tag 
> and a field with always the same contents, something is flawed with my data 
> model or my processes, since I am creating redundant information stored in 
> different places.
>
> And it took only a short time until these redundancies made me very 
> unhappy
>
> Also see Tones last sentence: "what if the field already exists" - also a 
> way to become unhappy ;/
>
>
> Pit.W
> Am 28.01.2021 um 12:02 schrieb TW Tones:
>
> Stéphane,
>   
> *Can tag adding, trigger field creation?*
>
> To answer this question directly if you provide the method to add a tag, 
> like construct your own button, you can always add an additional action to 
> create a field. 
>
> I am sure we can find a way to hack the existing add tag system to also 
> add a field but do you want this field added every time any tag is added?
>
> When you are ready explain what you are trying to achieve with this tag 
> and field and when or if, its always needed, what if the field already 
> exists etc...
>
> Regards
> Tones
>
> On Thursday, 28 January 2021 at 00:50:03 UTC+11 Misterel85 wrote:
>
>> Hi Tones,
>> Thanks for your reply.
>> Sorry if I didn't clearly express 'what I would like', and sorry if 
>> providing steps on how I was seeing the mechanism I had in mind didn't 
>> help. I'll try to improve what I have already done and rephrase it 
>> accordingly.
>> Anyway, the macro you provided is very interesting and could be really 
>> useful. It should be added to TiddlyWiki's documentation which doesn't 
>> provide any examples about the tag-picker.
>> Also thanks for your 'standard nomenclature' you recently posted about. 
>> This is a great piece of work!
>> Cheers,
>> Stéphane
>>
>>
>>
>> Le mardi 26 janvier 2021 à 01:37:43 UTC+1, TW Tones a écrit :
>>
>>> Stéphane L.  
>>>
>>> You are aware that in your section  *So, here's what I would like:*  
>>> you are in many ways forcing the solution rather than truly stating "what 
>>> you would like". Perhaps avoid tiddlywiki jargon and ask again, then 
>>> responders can suggest solutions beyond the limitations you are implying.
>>>
>>> As far as I can see, In database speak you want multiple values in your 
>>> source field, there are many ways to achieve this in tiddlywiki.
>>>
>>> I recently discovered we can use the tag-picker macro against another 
>>> field, try this;
>>>
>>> Source tags: <> 
>>> <$list filter="[{!!source}enlist-input[]]">
>>>   <>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>- You can also trigger actions on selection with the tag picker. 
>>>
>>>
>>

Re: [tw5] Bag Tag?

[TiddlyTweeter]

Thanks  jeremy...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> TT: Ha! I just tried adding a field called "*bag*" to a TW in the editor. 
> It won't accept it. I assume we are honoring TiddlySpace legacy in that 
> behavior?
>
>
> The field *is* added, it’s just that the “bag” field is hidden from the 
> field list in the edit template. You can check using the tiddler info panel.
>

*It is actually useful to know that *for me. It is a purely personal like 
for the word "bag". I use it outside TW extensively to mean a kind of 
"suitcase"---a container category. Knowing I can use it safely in TW is 
good news. I don't need see it so long as I know it is there.

So, thanks!
TT

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Re: [tw5] Bag Tag?

[Jeremy Ruston]

> Ha! I just tried adding a field called "bag" to a TW in the editor. It won't 
> accept it. I assume we are honoring TiddlySpace legacy in that behavior?

The field *is* added, it’s just that the “bag” field is hidden from the field 
list in the edit template. You can check using the tiddler info panel.

Best wishes

Jeremy.

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Re: [tw5] Setting to define additional system prefix?

[Jeremy Ruston]

I think it would be feasible to have some kind of hidden setting for 
customising the criteria of what constitutes a system tiddler, and it could be 
pretty useful in some situations. For example, the $:/ sequence is awkward to 
type, kind of intentionally as it’s supposed to act like a big, obvious label. 
But one could imagine that if one were working with lots of custom transclusion 
templates that it would be convenient to add, say, a dash as an alternative 
system tiddler prefix. Then one could write things like 
{{$:/core/images/down-arrow||-big}} instead of 
{{$:/core/images/down-arrow||$:/big}}

There is a single point in the JS code where we perform the system tiddler 
check:

exports.isSystemTiddler = function(title) {
return title && title.indexOf("$:/") === 0;
};

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/12f18474755c94362eef7191eafb532bafb743b1/core/modules/wiki.js#L206-L208
 


Best wishes

Jeremy.


> On 29 Jan 2021, at 22:51, amreus  wrote:
> 
> 
> Can we define an alternative or additional string that is treated similar to 
> a "system" prefix?
> 
> For example, I'd like to start tiddler titles with a '/' and have them hidden 
> by default and from lists and search like a system tiddler, but also keep 
> them separate from the official system hierarchy.  Also, the "[is[system]]" 
> filter would not see titles with this prefix.
> 
> I know this is possible, but it would require modifying a number of system 
> tiddlers.  A setting to define such a prefix would be cool.
> 
> 
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Re: [tw5] Can Latex (Katex) plugin do normal text?

[Jeremy Ruston]

Thanks Ste, I’ve made a PR here:

https://github.com/KaTeX/KaTeX/pull/2765 


Best wishes

Jeremy


> On 31 Jan 2021, at 19:21, Ste  wrote:
> 
> You should get tiddlywiki up on https://katex.org/users.html 
> ! 
> 
> 
> On Sunday, 31 January 2021 at 18:40:57 UTC Ste wrote:
> Thank you! 
> 
> On Sunday, 31 January 2021 at 15:19:52 UTC jeremy...@gmail.com 
>  wrote:
> Hi Ste
> 
> 
>> On 31 Jan 2021, at 12:18, Ste > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On the subject of KaTeX... Jeremy... can you update the plunging to the 
>> latest version pleaaase? 
> 
> Thanks for the prompt. I’ve updated the plugin to KaTeX v0.12.0 here:
> 
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/f2aba29d94cddcff6d7c188c4aa0b668995d8002
>  
> 
> 
> You can try it out here:
> 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/plugins/tiddlywiki/katex/ 
> 
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Jeremy.
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