[tw] Re: [POLL] What does the community think about the new diff plugin?

[Furicle]

Speaking as a part time sysadmin, that's a vocation, not a game


On Tuesday, February 27, 2018 at 10:39:19 AM UTC-5, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> It could also be a nice game:
>
> Make all red stuff green again, you have 30 seconds
>

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[tw] Re: "horizontal" tables?

[Furicle]

And look, it's in the documentation already.  
https://tiddlywiki.com/#Tables%20in%20WikiText

Sigh.   Need to reink that RTFM tattoo I guess
:-)


On Tuesday, February 27, 2018 at 10:24:58 AM UTC-5, Furicle wrote:
>
> Aha!
>
> Awesome - it even keeps the align left/middle/right by spacing rules
>
> Thank you!
>
> On Tuesday, February 27, 2018 at 10:05:25 AM UTC-5, Jed Carty wrote:
>>
>> You can make a cell use a th tag instead of a td tag with ! like this:
>>
>> |!Date |Mon |Tue |
>> |!Activity |Swimming |Sleeping |
>>
>

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[tw] Re: "horizontal" tables?

[Furicle]

Aha!

Awesome - it even keeps the align left/middle/right by spacing rules

Thank you!

On Tuesday, February 27, 2018 at 10:05:25 AM UTC-5, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> You can make a cell use a th tag instead of a td tag with ! like this:
>
> |!Date |Mon |Tue |
> |!Activity |Swimming |Sleeping |
>

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[tw] Re: dragging stuff into tw

[Furicle]

What I found recently I didn't know, was you can 'paste' a file into TW.

e.g. with a picture open, select all, copy, change to TW, click on an empty 
spot on the background and paste.

In retrospect maybe that's obvious, but it wasn't at the time :-)

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[tw] "horizontal" tables?

[Furicle]

Tables with nicely formatted top rows in TW are easy


| Date | Activity |h
| Mon | Swimming |
| Tue | Sleeping |


But is there any way to make that a 'horizontal' table?

e.g. like this, but using TW text or even Markdown?



Date
Mon
Tue


Activity
Swimming
Sleeping




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[tw] Re: Firefox 58 causing trouble or just me?

[Furicle]

It's a junction - created with mklink.exe /J 

I did .Name mostly because that's the way I'd do it on a linux box to 
"hide" it.
Note that this worked fine with FF 57.

You are correct - I created another junction, without the .  and it 
resolved the issue

C:/Users/furicle/Downloads/dotTW/ToDo-TW5/tdn.html
>
>
>
While it's a bit obscure to have a file name like that on Windows it's 
common on MacOS and *nix - so the plugin should be capable of handling it.



On Wednesday, February 7, 2018 at 11:55:15 AM UTC-5, PMario wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, February 7, 2018 at 3:05:32 PM UTC+1, Furicle wrote:
>>
>>
>> Full path
>> C:\Users\furicle\Downloads\.TW\ToDo-TW5\tdn.html
>>
>>
>>
> Ahhh, I think it's the \.TW\  which causes the problem. 
>
> How did you create the directoy.  Windows 10 won't let me create it. 
>
>
> From the docs 
> <https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Add-ons/WebExtensions/API/downloads/download>:
>  
>
>
> filename Optional
>> A string representing a file path relative to the default downloads 
>> directory — this provides the location where you want the file to be saved, 
>> and what filename you want to use. Absolute paths, empty paths, and paths 
>> containing back-references (../) will cause an error. If omitted, this 
>> value will default to the filename already given to the download file, and 
>> a location immediately inside the downloads directory.
>
>
> And it may be the back-reference that causes the problem. 
>
> Can you try to remove the dot in .TW ???
>
> -mario 
>

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[tw] Re: Firefox 58 causing trouble or just me?

[Furicle]

Sorry, cropped a bit much didn't I?

Just tdn.html


Full path
C:\Users\furicle\Downloads\.TW\ToDo-TW5\tdn.html




On Tuesday, February 6, 2018 at 6:50:38 PM UTC-5, PMario wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, February 6, 2018 at 4:57:36 PM UTC+1, Furicle wrote:
>>
>> OK - so I dug a little bit deeper.
>> On my machine apparently the plug in isn't seeing the wiki file name?
>>
>
> What's the name of your TW file?
>
> -m
>

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[tw] Re: Firefox 58 causing trouble or just me?

[Furicle]

OK - so I dug a little bit deeper.
On my machine apparently the plug in isn't seeing the wiki file name?




On Friday, January 26, 2018 at 11:12:48 AM UTC-5, Furicle wrote:
>
> Win 10-64 , Firefox 58 , File Backups 0.3.4 
>
> Everything was fine yesterday.
>
> This morning I try to save and the red check box doesn't clear, and the 
> file does not save.
>
> So I manually save (File -> Save) and I get a file that's 26 meg instead 
> of 5.
>
> So I re-open Friday from a backup, edit one change and hit save, and we're 
> back to the same issue.
>
> Judging by the date stamp on the Firefox app, it updated this morning, 
> so...
>
> Am I the only one?
>

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[tw] Re: Firefox 58 causing trouble or just me?

[Furicle]

Well I'm glad everyone else is sorted :-/



On Tuesday, February 6, 2018 at 10:34:44 AM UTC-5, Chris Nicoll wrote:
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>
> Thank you! I had the problem on Antergos Linux and it was the downloads 
> pref.
>

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[tw] Re: file-backups - Request for Feedback - 1

[Furicle]

Yes - a slash through it for disabled.  Perhaps a dotted outline and 
transparent when it's not configured or in fall back mode?

On Tuesday, February 6, 2018 at 10:20:50 AM UTC-5, Mark S. wrote:
>
> How about a diamond (enabled) and a diamond with a circle and slash? The 
> slash is clearly recognized as a "something not working" indicator.
>
> On Tuesday, February 6, 2018 at 6:35:42 AM UTC-8, PMario wrote:
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 6, 2018 at 3:22:00 PM UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> Just my opinion, but changing the icon is a bit confusing. It's not 
>>> clear they are part of the same system. Maybe just have the diamond with 
>>> blue (enabled) and gray (disabled).
>>>
>>
>> You are right ... That's why I'm asking for feedback. May be we can come 
>> up with better solutions. 
>>
>> IMO changing the color alone is not enough, if a user has problems to 
>> identify colors. So there has to be a visual difference too. 
>>
>> We only have 16 pixel, which imo caused a problem with the TiddlyFox 
>> icons.
>>
>> -m
>>
>

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[tw] Re: Drag N Drop Email (From Thunderbird)

[Furicle]

Aha!
Thanks Ton!

And now that I poke at it a bit, I see the guts of the thing looks like 
some sort of regex So I might be able to tweak it a bit more.

Right now it mungs up quote levels that use >

And it would be nice to format the standard email headers a bit.


On Friday, February 2, 2018 at 12:49:06 PM UTC-5, Ton Gerner wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> $:/plugins/sk/EmailConvert 
>  
> is a plugin
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ton
>
>

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[tw] Re: Drag N Drop Email (From Thunderbird)

[Furicle]

Hmmm - that's interesting.

It basically automates the hand editing I do when I cut and paste the text 
version. 


I'll have to figure out how to pull the 'editing tools' as it doesn't look 
like it's a plug in?


On Friday, February 2, 2018 at 6:18:56 AM UTC-5, PMario wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> http://tw5editor.tiddlyspot.com/ There may be one possibility you should 
> test. One of the editor icons is an email-converter. 
>
> IMO worth some testing.
>
> -m
>

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Re: [tw] Drag N Drop Email (From Thunderbird)

[Furicle]

Yes, that does sounds ideal.  Auto splitting attachments, plain and html 
text into into their own tiddlers so you could choose to import or discard, 
very cool.

After doing a bit of reading about deserializers being part of the TW core, 
it also sounds well above my current abilities. :-)


Thanks for the note, though, it proves I wasn't missing something obvious.

On 2/2/2018 3:53 AM, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

Hi furicle, 

It sounds like the best solution would be create a tiddler deserializer for 
the message/rfc822 format. A deserializer is a JavaScript function that 
generates tiddlers given a block of text and a MIME type. The 
message/rfc822 format can contain multiple blocks of content (eg, a message 
and the attached images) which would be converted into separate tiddlers.

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[tw] Re: Request: IF on TWITTER please leave your address on GG.

[Furicle]

I'm @furicle pretty much everywhere

On Monday, January 29, 2018 at 5:57:04 AM UTC-5, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Twitter over the last year has become more important for TiddlyWiki. 
> Slowly its gaining traction.
>
> I post onto Twitter quite often about great stuff discussed first here. 
>
> I'm never quite sure WHO on GG is ALSO on Twitter. 
>
> I would like to be able to point to YOU on Twitter if you exist there. 
>
> If you do, please include your Twitter address in posts here on GG.
>
> Its all about getting TiddlyWiki better known.
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
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[tw] Drag N Drop Email (From Thunderbird)

[Furicle]

I put a lot of email content into my wiki, with my own notes above/below.  

But I can't find a good, simple way to both retain the basic formatting, 
and intersperse my own text.


Right now I'm 

   - right-click → copy to clipboard → message in Thunderbird
   - open a new tiddler
   - paste
   - set the pasted material as plain text via ```


I lose colour, clickable links, pretty formatting of the headers, pretty 
indentation etc


The other way I've found is to 

   - save the email as HTML
   - import the html file into a tiddler
   - create a tiddler and transclude  the email in

I get clickable links and formatting, but I can't edit the content of the 
email or make notes inside of it without hand editing HTML



What I'd like to be able to do is just drag and drop it in. 

If I do that, it creates a tiddler with a type of message/rfc822  

The top half is the plain text version of the email, with mangled 
formatting.
The bottom half is the html portion, displayed reasonably well.

If I could tell it to hide the plain text portion, that would save a couple 
steps, but I'm still hand editing HTML when I want to intersperse things.

Can I change document types "mid tiddler" so to speak?
Or?

Any suggestions appreciated,

Furicle

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[tw] Re: Newbie: 2nd Post: How to write in a Tiddly the address to a file on my computer so that clicking the link opens the file

[Furicle]

Missed in last reply - 

Take a look at https://tiddlywiki.com/#Linking%20in%20WikiText

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[tw] Re: Newbie: 2nd Post: How to write in a Tiddly the address to a file on my computer so that clicking the link opens the file

[Furicle]

My links with spaces work fine - e.g. [[file:img/2018/file name like 
this.pdf]]

I can also use relative links (skipping the c:/etc) because I keep my TWs 
in the Downloads folder so even the new Firefox works fine with that.

To the OP - as pointed out, it's your browser that opens them, so it should 
"just work" with most file types.

On Friday, January 26, 2018 at 5:07:04 PM UTC-5, Mark S. wrote:
>
> In order to launch the file, you need to tell your Firefox browser what 
> you want to do with the Exel (or PDF) format. You do that in 
> options/settings/applications. Find the listing for PDF and change the 
> action so that it opens with your local PDF reader. Same for Microsoft Exel.
>
> Inside of TW, you can use a link like:
>
> [ext[myfile.pdf]]
>
> However, if you need to specify the path, and if the path has spaces (as 
> in your example) then you need to give the full name, swapping Windows 
> reverse slashes "\" for web forward slashes "/". So your name might be 
> something like:
>
> [ext[INS|file:///C:/Users/123 Fred/Google Drive/PERSONAL/Insurance 
> Form.pdf]]
>
> Unfortunately, this seems to invoke an empty tab in the process. Messy, 
> but it works.
>
> -- Mark
>
> On Thursday, January 25, 2018 at 6:45:46 PM UTC-8, paulda...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> 2nd post. 
>>
>> 1. Have a pdf at this location I would like to open from my Tiddly.
>>
>> *How do i write the address in a tiddly to open this pdf please?*
>> C:\Users\123 Fred\Google Drive\PERSONAL\Insurance Form
>>
>>
>> 2. Have a xlsx file at this location I would like to open my Tiddly.
>> *How do i write the address in a tiddly to open this xlsx file please?*
>> C:\Users\123 Fred\Google Drive\PERSONAL\Insurance Payments.xlsx
>>
>> Thank you very much.
>> Yours Faithfully
>> Paul
>>
>> Windows: 10 Pro Version 1709
>> Chrome: Version 64.0.3282.119 (Official Build) (64-bit)
>>
>>
>>

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[tw] Re: Where to edit format of deadline-date in view in ToDoNow?

[Furicle]

I had this question too - would be worth putting this in the documentation 
I think.

On Wednesday, January 24, 2018 at 6:56:27 PM UTC-5, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>
> Hi Surya 
>
>
> Translations, date and time format 
>
> 1. Clone one of the following language tiddlers, set a new ending for the 
> title, e.g. …/de-foo (do not change the rest of the title): 
>
> [...] 
> $:/plugins/telmiger/lib/languages/de-DE 
>
> So name your version e.g. 
> $:/plugins/telmiger/lib/languages/de-Surya 
>
> In this tiddler change this line: 
>
> date-deadline-tmpl: 0DD.0MM. 
>
> to the format you want. 
>
> Then choose your own «language» on the configuration tab of the plugin: 
> de-Surya 
>
> Please ask again if this is not clear enough! 
>
> Beste Grüsse 
> Thomas 
>

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[tw] Re: Firefox 58 causing trouble or just me?

[Furicle]

Fair enough, I should have known that.

But I kinda think it's FF 58 -  I've swapped to TiddyDesktop 0.0.9  (busy 
morning here, gotta keep moving)  and it's working ok.



On Friday, January 26, 2018 at 11:22:06 AM UTC-5, BJ wrote:
>
> It is not possible to save a tw correctly using file->save as this take a 
> snapshot to the state of the webpage and saves that inplace of the tw's 
> html.
>
> On Friday, January 26, 2018 at 5:12:48 PM UTC+1, Furicle wrote:
>>
>> Win 10-64 , Firefox 58 , File Backups 0.3.4 
>>
>> Everything was fine yesterday.
>>
>> This morning I try to save and the red check box doesn't clear, and the 
>> file does not save.
>>
>> So I manually save (File -> Save) and I get a file that's 26 meg instead 
>> of 5.
>>
>> So I re-open Friday from a backup, edit one change and hit save, and 
>> we're back to the same issue.
>>
>> Judging by the date stamp on the Firefox app, it updated this morning, 
>> so...
>>
>> Am I the only one?
>>
>

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[tw] Firefox 58 causing trouble or just me?

[Furicle]

Win 10-64 , Firefox 58 , File Backups 0.3.4 

Everything was fine yesterday.

This morning I try to save and the red check box doesn't clear, and the 
file does not save.

So I manually save (File -> Save) and I get a file that's 26 meg instead of 
5.

So I re-open Friday from a backup, edit one change and hit save, and we're 
back to the same issue.

Judging by the date stamp on the Firefox app, it updated this morning, so...

Am I the only one?

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[tw] Re: Presenting: Batch Manipulator - mass tagging

[Furicle]

This is a nifty tool - I've got all these mis matched case tags
Thanks Mat!

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[tw] Re: [AddOn] file-backups - "TiddlyWiki File Save and Backup" is an official FireFox AddOn

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I'm seeing the red checkmark not clear as well - I have updated to 0.3.3 
and I am on Windows 10 (64 bit)

But it is saving, it's just not clearing the mark

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[tw] Line breaks - change from Classic to TW5

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Simple thing, but I can't find in a quick search here.

TW Classic, in the body of a tiddler, a line feed was honoured in the html 
output.
I think the mechanism was tiddler bodies were wrapped in  tags

TW5 that's no longer true.

Can someone point me at the reasoning for this, and possibly a work around?
It seems jarring.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Documentation Proposal (Improved Examples)

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Perhaps this is better - the official docs

https://help.github.com/articles/github-flow/

and for an 'illustrated' version of that

https://guides.github.com/introduction/flow/


I can see where that's pretty intimidating for someone not used to the 
tools...

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Documentation Proposal (Improved Examples)

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I'm no Git guru, or big GitHub user for that matter.
I do use Git a bit for my sysadmin related scripts at work, some html stuff 
etc.

Real GitHub people please feel free to step in as needed

The normal flow with GitHub as I understand it is this:

0 - create a GitHub account
1 - 'Clone' or copy an existing 'repository' or set of code and it's 
historical info into your own account.
2 - (optional) create a 'branch' where you'll work on one concept or 
feature you want to improve
3 - make the changes you want
4 - go back to the original repository and create a 'pull request' - you're 
telling the repository owner you've done something they should add back 
into the master set of code.
5 - discussion takes place on the comments around pull request
6 - revise changes
7 - create new pull request(?)
8 - project owner(s) merge
9 - repeat at step 2

I'm a little hazy how you keep your clone up to date with the master, and 
the best way to revise pull requests.

Did that help or hurt?

On Thursday, December 14, 2017 at 2:18:03 PM UTC-5, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> moros...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>> some people are afraid of it from what I understand.
>
>
> I don't think we are afraid of it so much as non-comprehending of it.
>
> In my case I can raise a GitHub Issue (with work & a lot more restrain 
> than my usual want). Doing a "PR" (whatever the hell that is) is something 
> totally different that looks seriously weird still to me.
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah 
>

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Documentation Proposal (Improved Examples)

[Furicle]

Perhaps the first document that needs to be created is the one detailing 
how to help with the documentation  :-)

But creating a different wiki to document this one seems humorous, if 
nothing else...

Tony, can you be more specific about your issues with Git/Github?  Do you 
think the flow won't work? or are there specific steps that need to be 
clearer?

And do you see this as a 'stand alone' wiki or will it end up as part of 
tiddlywiki.com ?


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[tw] [ToDoNow] Set a Date Completed

[Furicle]

I really like the look of the ToDoNow plug in.  I think it improves on my 
current set up quite a bit.   

But I'm not in love with the idea of 'archiving' done items.  Seems like a 
wasted click.
 
What I'd rather have, is a field(?) for date completed as well as the built 
in date created and last modified.

That would make two things possible:

1 - The completed items list could be controlled by the same 'today - this 
week' chooser
2 - you could add build a date picker so you could see on any given day 
what was created, modified and finished

Is there a simple way to modify the code that fires when you mark it 
complete, to add a field 'completed' and give it today's date?  I guess it 
would have to delete that field on an 'uncheck'

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[tw] Re: A Rant

[Furicle]

At the risk of asking a stupid question - would it be difficult to just 
wrap it all up in an Electron app bundle like Slack et al?

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[tw] Re: A Rant

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Please note - my message was mostly about how tough it is to make this 
thing work if you aren't a javascript dev.
Has this been discussed on this list before?

On Wednesday, November 15, 2017 at 11:34:33 AM UTC-5, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Re installing node.js, did the instructions at "Installing TiddlyWiki on 
> Node.js" at tiddlywiki.com not work for you? 
>

There are no instructions for Windows.
Re-reading carefully I guess it's implied by the line "or directly from 
nodejs.org"
The rest of the page is a set of command line instructions, with specific 
notes for Mac or Linux in certain places.
Not something you'd expect to work on Windows.

I'll consider this set up - my wiki is somewhat confidential, I'm not 
thrilled with making it accessible from the network.


> Do you have a requirement for cloud or net-based tiddlywiki? I notice the 
> options you tried were net based. 
>

What I want is file based - it's somewhat confidential - making it 
available on the network (and adding a server to my laptop) is not 
something I'd prefer.  On the other hand, a cloud service (other than one 
of the 'big three' that I trust to be reasonably secure and reliable) isn't 
appropriate

The easiest net-based solution is TiddlyServer (IMO). 
>
> I have read https://www.didaxy.com/introduction-to-tiddlyserver which is 
supposed to be the 'easy concise' installation instructions.
Install node, install a server package, edit a json file, click on somthing 
or other that might start the server, then use a special bookmark to save?
Why not  use m4 macros too?

 

> The easiest simple save solution for standalone files is either BJ's 
> savetiddlers approach or Mario's new saver described here: 
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/h0k7z62N79Y
>

Savetiddlers has a nice banner saying "don't use me"

Thank you for that link to Mario's plug in  - I hadn't looked at that 
before.  It seems like the solution I want, except I have to keep my wiki 
in the downloads folder.  Not ideal, but possibly workable.

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[tw] A Rant

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I am having a ridiculously complicated time trying to use TW.  I think a 
new user will never jump through all these hoops.

Firefox is forcing the end of TiddlyFox, fine. There's a great Getting 
Started doc with all the options to replace it.
But darned if I can get any of them I've tried to work

   - TW in the Sky Dropbox
  -  either doesn't work, or I can't figure out how to work it.  It 
  authenticates, I've got a folder in Dropbox/Apps, but I can't get it to 
use 
  my tw.  Really needs documentation.
  

   - TW Desktop
  - no installer, just a zip folder - where do you put it, exactly?  
  Does it matter?  How am I supposed to know I launch something labelled 
  nw.exe?
  - can't see the screens half the time.  Opens randomly hidden or off 
  screen, most of the time
  - Muck around and get the windows to actually be visible, and get it 
  to open and display one of my tiddlers, and it still won't save?
   - Node.js
  - No Windows instructions
   
I could go on, but I think I've made my point.


*I'm not dumping on anyone.  I'm grateful for the work done to date.  I'm 
not owed anything.  I'm not demanding a darned thing.*

I'm a reasonably technically advanced current TW classic user, and I can 
not, after spending quite some time at, move forward.

I'm trying to say this community really needs to take a look at usability 
if it wants to be anything more than a niche product


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