Re: [tw5] Re: Building a book/blog webpage -- is TW5 right for it?
Hello folks, Thank you for all your answers. A lot of helpful elements. I also bumped into the Text-Slicer Edition which seems eminently useful for the book conversion part. Looks like this is actually integrated in the book browser/annotator that Télumire linked to. It's still far from clear to me how I would integrate the various elements. Or get something like a numbered ToC going. That should become clearer by actually trying. I may also try WordPress, as I have a bit of experience with it, and it seems easier in some ways. There appears to be a straightforward-looking ToC plugin, for instance. On the other hand, tiddlers and transclusion feel like the way to go for e.g. referring to a book section from within a blog post -- as opposed to copying and pasting the text. The vague wish here is that if I at some later point e.g. add a book section so that other sections are shifted in the hierarchy, any links or transclusions to the sections involved would still point to the appropriate destinations. I need to think through wat that means in practice. David mentioned a user comments section. Ideally there would be something of the kind, both for the blog posts and for every book section. But I'm not sure how to implement it, and whether I actually want Disqus-style comments. Comments-as-tiddlers might be nice... barring a sleek, curation-ready plugin for that, I might stick to "Questions? Comments? Drop an e-mail!" Thanks again, all. K. Enviar: domingo 13 de junio de 2021 a las 18:06 De: "James Anderson" Para: "TiddlyWiki" Asunto: Re: [tw5] Re: Building a book/blog webpage -- is TW5 right for it? I might do, I've not really found a short version of what will stop working when 5.2 is released. but i'd like to keep all my plugins up to date. On Sunday, 13 June 2021 at 16:42:41 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote: Hi James, Your workflow is popular, if you look at the forum you will find many posts about it! So, I may propose with the advent of many new features in 5.1.2x it is worth updating the workflow! Best wishes Mohammad On Sun, Jun 13, 2021 at 6:08 PM James Anderson <james.w@gmail.com> wrote: I wrote a static blog exporter several years back for TW explanation of it here: http://welford.github.io/twstaticblog/example/example.html which itself exports to: http://welford.github.io/twstaticblog/example/blog-styled/index.html and http://welford.github.io/twstaticblog/example/blog-basic/index.html i also use it for my personal blog here http://www.phasersonkill.com/ The thing is pretty flexible once you have it setup, most of what you want could be achieved. " a sort of carousel widget with single sections from the book, with arrows left and right to flip through them." might require a little extra work though. On Saturday, 12 June 2021 at 14:45:19 UTC+1 TW Tones wrote: As much as I value WordPress my personal belief is tiddlywiki would be ideal, I would start with others book style wikis to get going. I understand the value of static websites for search may be valuable however the interactive wiki offers much more. The compromise would be a static site on which every page link opens the interactive wiki, add a splash screen to inform them you are loading the whole book for easy search. I started building a template to support this but not completed it yet. Hopefully someone has done it and can share a revised template for its export. If you can serve a node implementation securely on the internet would be better and it can automatically serve both static and interactive content. By the way 70,000 words with an average length 490,000 characters, Not even half a Megabyte is trivial, I have happily used 6-12Mb single file wikis without any concern. Tones On Friday, 11 June 2021 at 23:03:06 UTC+10 iamdar...@gmail.com wrote: Hello! As much as I love TiddlyWiki and think it could work for your use cases, I feel I would be remiss to not point out another option: WordPress On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 7:37:42 AM UTC-4 David Gifford wrote: Hi Kosmaton You could use TiddlyWiki in node.js, and export and upload tiddlers to your free webhosting service as static htmls, no database needed. With some CSS, you could design it as you wish, in a way that it doesn't look TiddlyWiki-ish, and there are plugins to make the layout mobile-friendly. The book page, home page and news page are all doable. The book page could be handled with details elements (HTML, not the details widget plugin) and transclusions. So yes, everything you mentioned can be done. Alternately, you could do the same with a regular standalone TW uploaded to your free webhosting service. Doing it as a standalone means the opening page would not load as quickly as a small static html page, but most people wouldn't notice the difference, and it would give
[tw5] Building a book/blog webpage -- is TW5 right for it?
Hello Tiddly people, I'm meaning to create a new website, and I'd like to ask your opinion whether TiddlyWiki is the right tool (or one of the tools) for it. I used to have a pre-TW5 site on TiddlySpace back in the day. I'm semi-programming-and-webdesign-literate, in an ad hoc and rusty way. No experience with databases unfortunately, which may be relevant. The website I have in mind would be a combination of a non-fiction book (already written, but expandable/changeable), and an associated blog. The book is organized as a big tree of numbered paragraphs/sections: 1, 1.1, 1.1.1, 1.2, 2, 2.1 etc. These sections frequently refer to one another; it's a hypertext in itself. * The site would mainly need to have: 1) a page that displays the book, with a Table of Contents. - The TOC should be hideable as a whole. - The branches of the TOC should be collapsible, i.e. click on 1 to show 1.1 and 1.2, click again to hide them, etc. - It may be excessive to load all the text of the book (all the sections) into the viewport (some 70,000 words). But it would be nice if the reader saw a bit more than just the section they're currently reading. Basically a pdf-reader-like experience would be good. - optional: Sections of the book may get revisions, and the visitor should be able to see the revisions. (This would probably get a lot more complicated if I want to allow for reordering, deletion and creation of sections...) - The book currently exists as a LibreOffice Writer .odt file, with sections actually organized as headings. Ideally I'd like to automate the process of getting them into the TiddlyWiki. 2) a blog/news page - Blog posts are expected to regularly contain links to book sections, or entire transcluded sections. - Posts must be able to acommodate audio files; a regular HTML seems sufficient. 3) a Home page that could e.g. display - the most recent blog post (truncated if necessary) - a sort of carousel widget with single sections from the book, with arrows left and right to flip through them. These sections could be either randomly taken from the whole book, or from a hand-picked subset of sections (which I should be able to adjust). * The thing really ought to be 'responsive', i.e. look fine on small screens too. This might not be obvious for something like the TOC. * Towards the visitor it should not present a very TiddlyWikish face. I'm keen to acknowledge/praise/recommend TW in the About page; but the casual visitor should not focus on the underlying tech. * I don't intend to have a server of my own. The free webhost I've happily used before allows for up to 2 databases, with a choice between "5.7-MySQL . 10.5-MariaDB . 13.2-PgSQL". So: Does this sound feasible with TW5 as a base? (Or would you suggest some other framework? If it's /challenging/ with TW, but /easy&fun/ with XYZ, I'd like to hear about XYZ too! :) How would I set this up as far as server / databases etc. go? If I go ahead with this, there's bound to be more detailed questions regarding the functionalities mentioned above; but if you already see any immediate solutions (plugins, say) please shout. Apologies for the length of this post. I don't expect anyone to figure all this out for me, but any thoughts are very welcome. Many thanks in advance! K. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/trinity-376e720d-06cd-4bca-b96e-4de3359bc585-1623356924853%403c-app-mailcom-bs06.
Re: [tw] Re: How to hide SiteInfo on TiddlySpace?
Thanks Tobias! That was a quick fix -- a small inconvenience for the benefit of using your plugins :) Could have been twyp or TagSearchPlugin... Yes, I suppose it would be good if a fresh space would include a blank DefaultTiddlers to evade this issue. Or if for some reason this has downsides, something that warns the user. Kosmaton On 09/12/2013 10:49 PM, Tobias Beer wrote: Hi Kosmaton, I'm finding that when I load my tiddlyspace page, it now displays the SiteInfo tiddler by default, which wasn't the case last time I checked. This interferes with the design of that particular page. Mhhh, that's not so good. Sorry for the inconvenience. I guess that is due to me having modified a bunch of plugin spaces to automatically show the *SiteInfo* tiddler on startup. One way to "fix" this is to create your own version of *DefaultTiddlers* rather than use the default. The thing is, as a plugin publisher, I have to die one death or another, either my plugin space ends up overwriting someone elses *GettingStarted* their *DefaultTiddlers*... I have decided to do the latter. Actually, I think the *DefaultTiddlers* tiddler should be another one of those public tiddlers automatically created on space creation to its default content. Best wishes, Tobias. -- ♾ http://veminra.net ♾ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] How to hide SiteInfo on TiddlySpace?
Hello, I'm finding that when I load my tiddlyspace page, it now displays the SiteInfo tiddler by default, which wasn't the case last time I checked. This interferes with the design of that particular page. What caused/motives the change? Can I disable it? cheers, ~K -- ♾ http://veminra.net ♾ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: Path variable for URLs?
Thanks all for the replies. Skye - yes, smart thinking. Something like <> with the PATH tiddler just reading http://jokenet.net works fine! Eric - from a quick look, it seems like AliasPlugin may already do what I want? But I agree, it would rock even more with a %%%...%%% style syntax and a 'sliced' tiddler to neatly keep multiple aliases. Yakov's idea for a references tiddler seems a useful application... cheers, K. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Path variable for URLs?
Eric, Thanks! - looks useful. However, I forgot to mention: I am also using your HTMLFormattingPlugin quite a bit to display images, to have more flexibility via CSS layouting. These instances obviously don't use TW mark-up's [img[...]]. I don't suppose you have some general-purpose plugin, that is run on every bit of TW markup before it gets evaluated, and replaces by something else? cheers, K. On Dec 13, 11:55 pm, Eric Shulman wrote: > > try this: > http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#ImagePathPlugin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Path variable for URLs?
Hello people, How might one set a path variable of sorts, so that something like [img[PATH/images/my_pic1.jpg]] with PATH = "http://my.server.name"; would work? The idea is to greatly facilitate moving images etc. from one server to another. On the wiki-side, you'd just change PATH rather than every single occurence of the server name. cheers, Kosmaton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] sync to TiddlySpace errors
Hello, When I try to sync to TiddlySpace from a local, altered copy of the space, I get a bunch of these: Error parsing result from server: SyntaxError: syntax error An obvious reason might be that I do not manage (should I?) to log into the local copy using the username/pswd under which it was downloaded - remaining "unplugged user". It's also odd that the syncing "space: ▾" button doesn't appear at first - only after I close and reopen the backstage bar. Any suggestions? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: URGENT: Who owns raemes and console.tiddlyspace.com
Hello, I just noticed a similar case - all content (& favicon etc) of my veminra space, as opposed to the theme it uses, had been included in another space by someone experimenting with TW/TS. I got in touch with them (there was a link to their site) and they've kindly fixed it right away. How about a flag to disallow inclusion of a particular space? To distinguish 'building spaces' from 'building block spaces'. [K] -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/-/Ogi9NocxO10J. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: 'Triptych' theme: almost there? [TiddlySpace]
Fixed for the UI widgets: they work offline now. Image map images will normally be changed by the user so for those I put suggestions in [[About Triptych]]. Thanks once again Mario!! =K= -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: 'Triptych' theme: almost there? [TiddlySpace]
Thanks a lot Mario, that saved me a headache. Code is fixed now. There is still the problem of the image tiddlers being inaccessible offline (as called, HTML-style, in jquery-ui-1.8.9.custom.css and TriptychTheme). Any ideas for this? TiddlyWebConfig no longer gives me yesterday's error, oh well. Wolfgang, yes, seems like tagging a binary tiddler corrupts it? Strange, or not strange, I don't know. And you are right that taking out the TiddlyWeb stuff would be sensible for non TWeb-based use. I won't have a chance to look into that soon so if you want to hack it up, feel free! Kosmaton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: 'Triptych' theme: almost there? [TiddlySpace]
Hello Wolfgang, Glad you like the theme, and thanks for reporting the issue. I just checked: I get the same error. I have a feeling it worked at some point, but I am not sure as I didn't focus on offline use. When I load the page offline, I get notified that the TiddlyWebConfig plugin is not working right. Do you get that too? Resizing functionality is based on 'jquery-ui-1.8.9.custom.min.js' which is included as a tiddler. From Chrome debugging output it seems that when offline, the browser looks for that file in the location of the .html file rather than fetch it from the tiddler. It does this for other files too, e.g. the images used in the centre of the page: these are also stored in tiddlers and also do not show offline. If I put a copy of the .js file as well as 'jquery-ui-1.8.9.custom.css' and 'ui-icons_22_256x240.png' in the folder of the local file, resizing functionality is restored. So my first guess is that the error with TiddlyWebConfig is breaking loading-from-tiddlers. Could someone familiar with TiddlyWebConfig shed some light? The error log in the plugin manager reads: Error: [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x805e000a [nsIXMLHttpRequest.open]" nsresult: "0x805e000a ()" location: "JS frame :: file:///home/xxusernamex/Desktop/triptych-theme.html :: anonymous :: line 25586" data: no] cheers, Kosmaton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Is there any solution to introduce coments in this version of tiddlywiki?
Hello, >From what I've tried, both Disqus and Intense Debate (www.intensedebate.com) seem incompatible with TW. They expect you to put one comments thread on one page. Since a TW site is a single page, if you put one comment thread each in multiple tiddlers (e.g. via ViewTemplate), Disqus or ID will treat all these threads as one. Even if you id the threads properly and even if you use SinglePageModePlugin. I'm not sure it cannot work, but I tried quite a few things without success. Haloscan is now Echo (www.aboutecho.com). With their system it seems you _can_ put multiple threads on one page. But (1) it's less plug-and-play than the other two and would require some figuring out to (maybe!) work with TW (see [1]) (2) the free plan is more of a 'test' plan - though it may suffice for your needs. I have not fully tried the TW-specific plugins mentioned higher in this thread. But my impression was that they are good if you trust the users of TW to not abuse the system. E.g. if you share the TW within a (good...) company. If you want your TW to be public to all the Web, you may need the admin features present in Disqus/ID/Echo... which as mentioned are hard to get to work :/ You could consider using TiddlySpace for your TW, though its 'comments' system is at the moment still experimental, not what people are used to, and requires commenters to sign up to TS (some thoughts on that at [2]). Afraid I can't help with a ready solution -- Kosmaton [1] http://wiki.aboutecho.com/w/page/29298625/Use%20Case%20-%20Commenting [2] http://kosmaton.tiddlyspace.com/#[[Social%20Side%20of%20TiddlySpace%3A%20Old%20Thoughts]] -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: TiddlySpace backstage in Opera: dead here, alive there
Hmm... And you find the same behaviour for all the spaces I mentioned? I am testing the same version/build, but on Mint/Ubuntu and old WinXP. On the spaces where it doesn't work, there is the 'close' link on the right of the backstage bar, and the 'login' dropdown on the left, which shows the "TiddlySpace Username", "OpenID" and "Register" tabs. But only the "Register" tab contains actual input boxes. So you can't login with an existing username. And all the TS-specific stuff is unavailable. Since for some spaces the full TS-specific backstage works (on my system), I wonder what exactly is breaking the 'bad' ones. Kosmaton On Apr 6, 8:03 pm, PMario wrote: > I Tested it with: > Version > 11.01 > > Build > 1190 > > Platform > Win32 > > System > Windows NT 6.1 / Win7 :) > === > It is messud up, but it was possible to log in. > -m -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Ignoring TW markup in search
Hello,
The problem is not with shadow tiddlers (I have chkSearchShadows =
false).
The issue is with custom inline formatting, e.g.
In this tiddler {{blue_border{some text}}} stands out.
On a search of 'blue' the tiddler will be returned, confusing the user
since the word 'blue' is not visible to them.
So either the search would have to recognize and ignore inline
formatting, or pre-render the tiddler and search the result. I don't
know if either is feasible.
I included a checkbox to only search for whole words, which helps but
does not fully solve the problem.
=K=
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[tw] TiddlySpace backstage in Opera: dead here, alive there
Hi, In Opera (11, both Linux and Win from what I've checked) in some spaces the TiddlySpace backstage (button + bar) renders normally: http://following.tiddlyspace.com/ http://docs.tiddlyspace.com/ and in some it's messed up, looking like an emaciated version of the regular TW backstage, where you can't even login: http://blog.tiddlyspace.com http://test.tiddlyspace.com In the latter the required DOM elements don't seem to be loaded. Any guesses what causes this? Kosmaton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Ignoring TW markup in search
Hello, I've been working on a custom search form based on Eric's suggestion at [1]. It works except the search also returns text from TW markup, e.g. custom CSS class names. How could this be prevented? Scanning for syntax seems out given custom plugins etc. One can imagine rendering the tiddlers behind the scenes with something Wikify-ish and searching the resulting text. Probable problems: slowdown; and what to do about text that is transcluded or hidden in a slider or with e.g. NestedSlidersPlugin. Any ideas? cheers, Kosmaton [1] https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/bf2f4f252cf72a3b/ca37840f5685d93d -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Javascript in ViewTemplate (or other ...Template)
Thanks all! @whatever: no, the script is the bit /being/ transcluded. @Eric: cool, very useful functions. @Mario: you're right, making it as a new macro is a lot cleaner. Much better now :) =K= -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Transclude an arbitrary piece of tiddler?
Hello, Is there a way/plugin to transclude an arbitrary piece of tiddler, presumably marking it with some identifier syntax? Example usage: to transclude part of a paragraph, where inserting section headers would mess up the source tiddler flow. Looks like /%!hiding headers%/ doesn't do the trick. cheers, Kosmaton -- ♾ http://veminra.tiddlyspace.com ♾ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Add theme to themes space?
Hello - Finally, victory in the Battle of Backstage Button[1]. Now http://triptych-theme.tiddlyspace.com is ready for deployment, I hope. Many thanks to everyone who helped out! Can I add it to http://themes.tiddlyspace.com? How? I can't seem to find instructions there. cheers, Kosmaton [1] Put CSS in MarkupPostBody to overrule StyleSheetBackstage... -- ♾ http://veminra.tiddlyspace.com ♾ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Re: Thinking out loud
Eric wrote: to embed javascript code directly into tiddler content. These scripts have full access to the TWCore functions, and can fetch tiddlers using any process or criteria you want How does one refer to a particular (custom) field in JS code? There is, of course, much more than simply*having* a parent field. For example, what happens if a parent tiddler is deleted? [...] How would one typically specify such rules? Perhaps there is a plugin that serves as a good example? Also, while one-to-one parent-child connections are perhaps the most common, what about multi-connected*graphs* rather than simple tree- like hierarchy? All sorts of one-to-many and many-to-many *semantic connections* are meaningful, such as "groupings" (where a tiddler can be in multiple groups), "inheritance" (where properties/values from other tiddlers are applied automatically), etc. I'm very interested in this. Again - are there existing examples? On 11/03/11 08:21, BR wrote: It's true that just about any feature can be added as a plugin. However, there is a lot of value in features which are a part of the core. They are much easier for everyday users to make use of. They also provide a consistent approach to the most common needs, and they can serve as a starting point for new plugins to build from. Speaking without much experience, I feel like a clear and very visible -- right from within the base TW -- plugins directory might be an alternative to fattening the core. So TW would be explicitly about e.g. structured data, among many other things, without giving up core leanness. I reckon this is anything but trivial. And there are various existing projects -- but plugin/macro discovery remains a fairly chaotic search engine/newsgroup affair, for me at least. Maybe I don't do this smartly. Maybe this is in fact an efficient way - but not user-friendly in a typical sense. Kosmaton -- ? http://veminra.tiddlyspace.com ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Re: Need help with read only
Hello, Not quite sure what /the/ best way is in Tiddlyspot. But this seems to work to enable ReadOnly mode over http access, so that no-one (including you, alas) can edit the page online - but you can edit it offline after you've downloaded it. Then you upload it back. (omit quotes throughout:) 1) Create a tiddler called "zzConfig" and tagged "systemConfig" (or if you have it already, use it) 2) In zzConfig put (or add) just the line "config.options.chkHttpReadOnly = true;" 3) Open TspotSetupPlugin and comment out the lines "config.options.chkHttpReadOnly = false;" and "window.readOnly = false;" by putting // in front of each 4) Put "chkHttpReadOnly" and "readOnly" in the search box to see if there are other tiddlers with the same lines, which you need to comment out likewise (depends on your theme; e.g. mptw theme has them in MptwConfigPlugin) 5) Download the page to your local computer. This is the file which you'll use off-line for editing, with the sidebar and everything visible. 6) Back on your http page, make sure your password is entered in "options", then "save to web". 7) If you reload the page now (maybe you need to clear the browser history) you should find it non-editable and with the elements gone that have wrapped around them. Note: I wasn't clear earlier, make sure you wrap the macro="hideWhen readOnly"> around all of ···whatevers are here··· not just around alone. I also found another thing I want - to remove the options from each tiddler - is says: Tags: ▾new here close edit delete more I'm thinking I really don't need anything but "close" if that since I am using the single page mode. For that you can use something like: in your ViewTemplate tiddler. You will have to create a new "ToolbarCommandsPublic" tiddler in which you simply put |~ViewToolbar|close| Enjoy, Kosmaton On 09/03/11 21:12, Joan wrote: How does it know when it is me and so turn off the read only to allow me access? I tried to use a plug in to hide the side bar...and it worked so well I could not figure out how to get back into it for my use. Fortunately I had a back up copy of the site I could use...but I'd rather not go through that again. I also found another thing I want - to remove the options from each tiddler - is says: Tags: ▾new here close edit delete more I'm thinking I really don't need anything but "close" if that since I am using the single page mode. I really appreciate the patience here for helping newbies along. Not every place is as supportive. On Mar 9, 2:33 am, Kosmaton wrote: Hello, 1) I want to hide the sidebar from everyone except me. You could import the HideWhenPlugin from [1] and then put ... around any ... div in PageTemplate, ViewTemplate etc. which you don't want visitors to see. In your case that ... would be in your PageTemplate tiddler. (In case you don't find PageTemplate: point your browser tohttp://myPageURL/#PageTemplate.) regards, Kosmaton [1]http://mptw.tiddlyspot.com/#HideWhenPlugin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Re: Where am I?
Craig, I think http://www.tiddlytools.com/#SectionLinksPlugin may help with your second issue. whatever, good find -- however using TiddlerWithEditPlugin would make it even more important to be able to distinguish the transclusions; Jeremy, your solution to this works partially, but in the PageTemplate I'm using (NeUIem - based) there are a few elements that use [refresh="content"] so unfortunately they get the border too. I guess changing their tags into might help... not sure how much risk there is to run into other undesired cases. cheers, Kosmaton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Where am I?
Hello, Not to distract from Craig's specific questions, which I fear I can't answer, but I think this is related. Is there some accepted way to make it visually apparent that part of a tiddler is in fact a transclusion? If I have a CoolBeasts tiddler saying Cats are cool. <> to result in Cats are cool. Dogs are cool. I'd want there to be some subtle sign that the second phrase is transcluded, as well as a way to open the CoolDogs tiddler and - following Craig - edit it directly. (Say, a faint dotted underlining, with small 'view' and 'edit' buttons. Maybe something indicating nesting depth.) Ideally this functionality would be associated with the transclusion itself. So I wouldn't have to add it to every tiddler or section I might want to transclude as in Craig's attempt (I believe - can't get it to work), nor have to manually add it in the transcluding tiddler for every transclusion (as with EditSectionPlugin). There wouldn't be big buttons breaking the text flow either. So maybe we are talking about a sort of <> macro for this type of transclusion? And a parallel <> ? Has this been done? Kosmaton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Need help with read only
Hello, 1) I want to hide the sidebar from everyone except me. You could import the HideWhenPlugin from [1] and then put ... around any ... div in PageTemplate, ViewTemplate etc. which you don't want visitors to see. In your case that ... would be in your PageTemplate tiddler. (In case you don't find PageTemplate: point your browser to http://myPageURL/#PageTemplate.) regards, Kosmaton [1] http://mptw.tiddlyspot.com/#HideWhenPlugin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Re: 'Triptych' theme: almost there? [TiddlySpace]
Hi all, thanks for your input.
Eric, good call, I imported the MapMaker part of your plugin into the
theme to make editing easier.
Mario, roger on all of that! Made changes as needed.
I wrote a detailed customisation guide at
http://triptych-theme.tiddlyspace.com/#[[About%20Triptych]]. All looks
well now except for that pesky backstage icon, cf. issue 2 in my
original post.
Anyone got thoughts on the latter? How come StyleSheetBackstage
overrules my custom style sheet for #backstageShow .svgIcon {...} but
not for #backstageShow {...} ?
cheers,
Kosmaton
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[tw] 'Triptych' theme: almost there? [TiddlySpace]
Hello,
I reworked, mostly under the hood, the experimental
http://sndbxy1.tiddlyspace.com into what should be a proper theme at
http://triptych-theme.tiddlyspace.com. It is based on Mario's NeUIem
theme. It features a clickable central image map, and left and right
sidebars that can be unlocked (expanding upon mouse hover) and locked
(which makes them resizable).
Some remaining issues, help appreciated:
0a.
It's more a theme template than a fully-upholstered theme. I decided
this is the best option since it requires some user customisation in any
case for the image map [1]. I will add some guidelines for customisation
in About. Also, [2].
1.
I would like the user of the theme to be able to set different values
for the width of TiddlerDisplay (now 94% of browser window width) and
the height of the sidebars (now 85% of window height).
* the 0.85 value is currently hard-coded in three different plugins used
by the theme; (how) can I use a global variable of sorts for this?
* how to make an interface so that the theme-user can set these values
without digging into the code?
2.
For overlap reduction reasons, I need to have the backstage icon trimmed
and moved. In my custom StyleSheetTriptych I have:
#backstageShow {
height: 35px;
width: 40px;
}
#backstageShow .svgIcon {
left: -12px;
top: -5px;
}
While height and width 'work', left and top don't. As it is now I've
altered these directly in StyleSheetBackstage. That works, but since it
created a Triptych-specific copy of StyleSheetBackstage, future updates
by Osmosoft to that tiddler won't percolate, I suppose. Any ideas?
3a.
The theme uses its own StyleSheetTriptych which is linked to by its own
(otherwise empty) StyleSheet. This is fine if the including space has no
custom StyleSheet of its own yet, but not if it does. What's the way to
deal with this?
3b.
Same thing for the About tiddler.
4. @Mario
Can/should I rename the NeUIemTheme tiddler somehow to make clear it is
a modified version?
cheers,
Kosmaton
[1] This theme is kind of a template, and will require a bit of
customisation from the user. If anyone can write a wizard for the
process of uploading images and choosing clickable areas for the image
map, go for it.
[2] Since the plugins are built on top of NeUI-em and the modified
PageTemplate, you can't just import them in any TW to get the funky
sidebar behaviour. This is unfortunate. Feel free to improve on this,
somehow!
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[tw] Re: tiddler revisions?
Tobias, you're right, I hadn't noticed this is TSpace-specific. Mario, I saw that somewhat useful bug, but because it erases the *complete*revision history, that's no good if the goal is to keep a history of selected (but not all) revisions. I guess it's not necessarily a useful functionality for every TW, but it would be for some, especially those with a 'general public' side to them. If each revision were a tiddler itself, it would be easy to delete some of them, or only show the ones tagged 'approved'. (I guess it's not that simple. How are the revisions stored, then?) Might be easy to create a button in EditTemplate that copies the current content in a new tiddler [[CurrentTiddler rev#]] (adjusting for existing similar tiddlers)? Then do revisions, and then the private-public thing. Plus add a button in ViewTemplate that lists the revision tiddlers created this way. Kosmaton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: 'Tiddler opened' for js?
Thanks guys, ViewTemplate + InlineJavascriptPlugin did the trick nicely. Out of theoretical interest, is there something like tiddler events? E.g. 'close tiddler' -- no template showing then to run code for you. I guess you could bind something to the close button click though. regards, =K= -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] 'Tiddler opened' for js?
Hi, If I wanted to run some javascript every time a tiddler (any tiddler) is opened, how might I do that? Or for a fishing method rather than a fish: any docs that answer this question? Couldn't readily find it on tiddlywiki.org cheers, =K= -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] [Delete / hide / do not include in feed] tiddler revisions?
Hello, Is it possible to delete/hide tiddler revisions? If you share a TW, you can use the revision history of tiddlers as a type of stop-motion video of how tiddlers changed over time. But certain revisions, e.g. to fix typos, may be irrelevant to the reader and clutter the history. (Or they may just be very stupid, in hindsight.) In that case you only want to show the correct version, not the earlier one with the typo. So that you get: The wordl is big (rev 1; created) The world is big (rev 2; typo revision - delete/hide rev 1) It's a small world (rev 3; content revision - keep rev 2) A related issue is that one might not want minor modifications to show up in the RSS/ATOM (TW/TSpace) feed, cluttering people's feed readers. If one only includes tiddlers tagged 'feed' in the feed, and removes that tag upon a minor revision, I suppose it won't show up again. But then a new subscriber to the feed will not get any version of the tiddler. So it's not ideal. cheers, Kosmaton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Auto-update internal links just like tags?
Hi, I'm reviving this somewhat old thread to ask if by now there exists anything with the functionality described. This thread [1] seems to suggest that RenameTagsPlugin can do it, but I don't see it. cheers, =K= [1] https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tiddlywiki/oLjJAA7H8A0/discussion -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Hiding specific sidebar tabs from non-members
Hello people, Thanks for the compliments and glad if it sparks ideas :) I made some more layout changes to the veminra space in the meantime. The sndbxy3 space is indeed sort of a theme, but it is not ready for inclusion. Since I learned as I went along, I need to reconsider various aspects - do it asap. On Wednesday, February 16, 2011 6:13:20 PM UTC+1, Tobias Beer wrote: > > That centered animated image [2] is quite interesting and also the way > you allow for the sidebars to be snapped and resized ...would love to > hear from Kosmaton what he used to create these effects. The animated image is an image map, directly in the PageTemplate, and the animations are animated gifs that are hidden and shown as required. Check the tiddlers NeUIemTheme (modified from the original - not sure if I can alter the name to NeUiemThemeMod or so) and ImageMapHoverPlugin (needs docs...). The resizable sidebars are a jQuery UI effect [1], controlled with SidebarLockButtonPlugin; also check FXSidebarHoverPlugin. Suggestions for improvement are certainly welcome. cheers, Kosmaton [1] http://jqueryui.com/demos/resizable/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: [TSpace] Hiding specific sidebar tabs from non-members
Answering my own question thanks to
https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tiddlywiki/PPcsCZkEyD4/discussion
When including InlineJavascriptPlugin from TiddlyTools, something like this
works:
{{wrapper{<> if (readOnly) place.style.display="none"; }}}
{{wrapper{<> if (*!*readOnly) place.style.display="none"; }}}
So not really hiding individual tabs, but providing different public and
private tab*sets* altogether.
Kosmaton
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[tw] Re: what maps a wiki style to a StyleSheet style?
Hello Monique,
In your style sheet put e.g.
.review-question {
color: red;
font-style: bold;
}
Then if in a tiddler you use curly braces and the class name:
It's {{review-question{fire}}} time.
"fire" will have the style applied to it.
ciao,
=K=
On Feb 16, 12:38 am, techwriter_mjs wrote:
> I'd like to add a custom style, "review-question", to my TiddlyWiki.
> That way I could apply bold-red-formatting, for example, to questions
> that I need reviewers to answer about the wiki content I'm writing.
>
> It seems obvious how to add the style to the style sheet, but then
> what do I do in the tiddler edit window to apply the desired style to
> some text?
>
> I'm assuming that there's code somewhere I can edit that knows, for
> example, that an exclamation mark, "!", denotes a h1 heading, so I
> figure that's where I'd add a new wiki markup tag. But perhaps
> there's an easier way to go about this?
>
> Thanks for answering what I'm sure is a basic HTML/CSS/web question,
> -Monique
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[tw] [TSpace] Hiding specific sidebar tabs from non-members
Hello people, After including the 'following' space, the SideBarTabs tiddler in my TSpace reads: <> I want to hide some of these tabs from non-members. This to make the site less confusing for non TW-savvy visitors. But all tabs must show when I or another member log in. Just setting e.g. the TabTimeline tiddler to private (if one wanted to hide the "All" tab) does not work: the space defaults back to the general, public version of that tiddler. In a related thread Mario mentioned HideWhenPlugin using 'hideWhen readOnly===true'. This works fine within the HTML template structure of the page, but how to specify a similar effect for the sidebar tabs? Thanks, Kosmaton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: FancyBox experimental
> > I didn't find any simple to use, powerfull ubuntu programm for batch > processing yet. > Maybe you haven't tried: * David's Batch Processor for Gimp, in gimp-plugin-registry. For desktop integration: * nautilus-image-converter or * phatch & phatch-nautilus (not tried but looks good: http://photobatch.wikidot.com/) =K= -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: TW/TSpace theme variant: please help debug/review
> > May be hideWhen readOnly===true plugin may help. > That's perfect, thanks a lot Mario. > But there is the Permaview and the CloseAll button, which should work > also for guests. > Indeed, I put those in the tab bar of the displayArea. For the tabbed interface, it seems a logical place. > If someone clicks a "deactivated" button they ge a message. That is fine if the visitor knows TW/TS principles; but otherwise it may still be puzzling. Although one could also argue that to a newcomer, it could be a hint of hidden potential... It depends on the purpose of the site. =K= -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: FancyBox experimental
I wanted to aks if one could have a slideshow without the pictures all showing in the tiddler itself, but http://fancybox.tiddlyspace.com/#Example_SlideShowConfig answers that, positively. Maybe it's worth pointing out more explicitly in 'About' this show-by-tag option, since it increases flexibility considerably. Great stuff! =K= -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: TW/TSpace theme variant: please help debug/review
Hi folks, I bypassed the 1st bug by replacing jQuery's .animate() with .show() and .hide(). Less pretty but seems to work. Fixed the 2nd bug with an extra wrapper on the sidebars. Would be great to have some feedback on the last four issues, or other ones you may encounter! cheers, Kosmaton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] TW/TSpace theme variant: please help debug/review
Hello, It is based on the neui-em theme, but with a clickable image map, tabbed tiddlers, and collapsible/resizable sidebars: more info at sndbxy3.tiddlyspace.com Thanks to Mario, Colm, Måns for putting me on the right track! Remaining bugs - any help appreciated: - Normally when a sidebar is in the collapsed state, hovering over its 'triggerbox' folds it out (jQuery mouseenter). A jQuery mouseleave from the sidebar makes it re-collapse. But sometimes after a little while an enter-leave-enter-leave-enter sequence is set off upon hovering over the triggerbox, breaking the system. I can't see what circumstances cause this. Let me know if you do -- note the I/O debug messages. - When a fixed sidebar is resized so its content needs a scrollbar, scrolling it will make the resize handles scroll too. This is not ideal. Using an extra div inside the sidebar might work but it seems a width/height/overflow nightmare. - The central tiddlerDisplay width is calculated and set when needed: (1) if a sidebar is resized (2) if the browser window is resized. Cf. 'fitted' debug message. In MarkupPostBody I call this function once when the page is loaded, but (a) the resulting visible re-fitting can look a bit clumsy (b) it seems not to work in Opera. Any alternatives? Other: - Tested in FF, Chrome, Opera; please report results for other browsers - How to hide the backstage bar on initial page load? - I set CSidebarTools private so the 'new tiddler' etc. buttons do not show up for non-members; but it is still visible. What's the right way? Thanks! Kosmaton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: "jQuery is not defined" error on custom script
Thanks both - had a few reads. I see what you meant before, Mario.
I put the code in a plugin sndbxy3.tiddlyspace.com/#ImageMapHoverPlugin. But
still e.g. $("#bckimg"), with bckimg the id of my image map div, doesn't
seem to be recognised. I did a test putting $(".dp100").css("border", "5px
solid red"); in there to see if it affects the header which has class dp100.
It doesn't. Does TW add some sort of extra layer that needs to be referred
somehow? I can't figure it out.
I see e.g. RevisionsCommandPlugin does use $(".viewer", tiddlerEl) but don't
know in what relevant way it differs from my plugin.
Probably not using FireBug to good effect -- Lots of new stuff to me... A
few more pointers could be really helpful!
cheers,
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[tw] Visualising a TW's history (& recent change)
Hello all, This topic came up in the where-to-host-the-tiddlywiki-wiki thread [1] but it is a separate issue. Chris wrote about TiddlySpace: It's not that the history doesn't exist, it's that the tools for accessing it don't provide the "rich" experience that some wikis provide. Poul pointed to Giewiki, which he says has Better revision control, including diff and revert TW buys its cool nonlinearity with a by default reduced historical slant. This is not a problem for content that doesn't change much, but a lot of content will. To me and at first sight, Giewiki does make the tiddler version history more smoothly accessible than TiddlySpace. In TS, clicking on "last modified on..." gives a neat stack of earlier versions with a revert option, but there is no highlighting of changes. Playing with revisions and comparisons via "additional commands" leads to a proliferation of tiddlers in the timeline. This may be useful but the first impression seems confusing... also, trying to delete these tiddlers tends to beget messy errors like "Error removing ModTest [diff: #172991 #172990]: Precondition Failed". Thinking about public knowledge maps, how about a prominently displayed toggle in View mode, that highlights differences with the previous version of the tiddler. For instance, I get the blog.tiddlyspace.com atom feed in my feed reader, so I see when one of the tiddlers there gets changed -- but when I call up the TW it is not terribly apparent what exact change has been made. One can easily imagine still fancier tools like a timeline that lets you step through the growth and change of a wiki; but the above seems more fundamental. cheers, Kosmaton [1] https://groups.google.com/forum/?pli=1#!topic/tiddlywiki/wAW1pQABu8k -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] "jQuery is not defined" error on custom script
Hello folks,
I pasted some JavaScript code into MarkupPostHeader in this [1] test page.
It starts off with
jQuery(document).ready(function() {
but loading the page gives a "jQuery is not defined" error in FireBug, and
clearly the JS is not activated. What might be wrong here?
cheers, Kosmaton
[1] http://sndbxy3.tiddlyspace.com/
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[tw] Sidebar-height of outermost tag blocks div with low z-index in Firefox
Hello, On this [1] test page I have a div with an image that should be clickable; it has a negative z-index to stay behind any tiddlers. But it appears that something is partly covering the image, blocking clicks. FireBug suggests the area covered by is only the backstage area, but the outermost block covers the height of the left sidebar, causing the problem. In Chrome the height of is only the backstage's, so there the problem does not occur. Any ideas why this happens in FF and how to fix it? Thanks, Kosmaton [1] http://sndbxy3.tiddlyspace.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Background image map
Mario, thanks for your comments!
1) Regarding sidebar toggling.
- There is now a macro error "TypeError: elem.elem is undefined" in TogLSBox
and TogRSBox. I have no idea why.
- As long as that error is there, changing zzConfig makes no difference.
- Maybe I should reconsider. In the locked state, dp15-dp70-dp15 could be
used. In the unlocked state, dp5-dp90-dp5 with a centring override for the
middle column, and a right float override for the right sidebar. At the same
time the 'unlock/lock' toggle should add/remove :hover{width:auto}. I'll see
if I can figure out enough JS to give it a shot.
2.
It seems that FireFox uses a height for the outermost tag.
Changed it with firebug to 1em, it fixed it. But I am not sure, if
there are any side effects. On the other hand, the default theme has
the same behaviour, so it's not the framework.
Hm, yes. I'll ask about it in a new thread.
3.
I tested your js in Firebug console. It seems, that it invokes the
mouseover() function but it seems that "$(this)" is null.
Ah... On loading the document the console says "jQuery is not defined" for
me. New thread.
4.
neui-em .. 288 kB
default .. 252 kB
Didn't realise it is zipped. Wonder how long unzipping takes. Anyway, I'm
sold for now :)
5.
Just include TiddlersBarPluginMP [1] and add
Great! Instant karma.
6.
Some time ago, I did TeamWork at hoster. It has a TWTopListTheme [1],
I intended to repeat the image map links in the left sidebar for immediate
access. The image map is mainly for initial eye candy. But I will consider
your suggestion.
cheers,
=K=
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[tw] Re: Background image map
I got closer to the goal today, check sndbxy3.tiddlyspace.com . It starts from the neui-em theme. But there are still many issues. Please see if you can help: 1) The *'locking' of the sidebars*. I put the Toggle[Left/Right]SideBarEm arrows in there, but they are not doing anything. In any case I need 'lock/unlock', not 'hide/show'. Hide behaviour would be bad, as it would hide the toggle arrow too! (When the sidebars are not locked, they slide over the central width:90%tiddlers when hovered over. But when the sidebars are locked, the central tiddlers must somehow fit in whatever space remains, i.e. using variable width.) 2) The *image map* did not work because it was *covered* (z-index) by the main div in NeUIemTheme, right after "". I removed class='dp100 clearfix row' from that div. Now the image map is fully clickable in Chrome and Opera; but still covered *in Firefox*: you can click the lower part of the thermometer quadrant but not the higher part. Odd? 3) *Image map hover 'animation' through jQuery* in MarkupPostHeader is still not working. Not sure if I can just invoke jQuery like that? 4) My page layout doesn't really use emastic properly. So I wonder if the extra loading time (?) is worth including that framework in my page (via the neui-em theme), or better start from a blank slate. But are there any 'blank slates' available for TiddlySpace, i.e. incorporating the TS extras wrt TW? I do like how neui-em displays tiddlers, though. =K= -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Background image map
Hello, Almost there for the image map, but can't get mouse-over images to show with jQuery. Please have a look at sndbxy.tiddlyspace.com for an example. I only modified the PageTemplate tiddler, and MarkupPostHead for the JavaScript; no plugins used. quad2.gif and quad4.gif, which are hidden by display:noneinitially, are supposed to become visible when the lower right resp. upper left part of the picture are moused over. Hope someone can spot the mistake(s) -- thanks! =K= -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: displayTiddler() browser variation?
Thanks! Both solutions work in all 3 browsers. But why? I'm guessing Colm's way does some typecasting to avoid talking about the wrong object...? But then why is that not needed in Eric's onclick? Kosmaton (speaking mere phrasebook Javascript) On Jan 21, 2:13 pm, Eric Shulman wrote: > > try! > a> > > onclick="story.displayTiddler(null,'SomeTiddler'); return false">try! a> > > Note: instead of using the HREF for invoking the javascript, a > separate onclick handler is used. For most mainstream browsers, when > the onclick handler returns FALSE, it completely bypasses the HREF > trigger. In any case, if the HREF should somehow still be triggered, > it is now just a simple javascript PLACEHOLDER 'blank statement' to > ensure that no actual page transition behaviors can occur. > > enjoy, > -e > Eric Shulman > TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] displayTiddler() browser variation?
Hello, In an HTML context (PageTemplate tiddler) I have try! The intention is that clicking the link displays the SomeTiddler tiddler. It works in Chrome. But in Firefox (3.6.13) and Opera it results in a blank page that only reads "[object HTMLDivElement]", with "javascript:story.displayTiddler(null,'SomeTiddler');" in the address bar. In Opera when I then click on the go back button I actually get the page as intended (SomeTiddler shown); not so in FF. No idea what's going on here. Anyone? Thanks! Kosmaton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Background image map
Thanks everyone! Mario: > Could you be more exact, what image map means for you. A centred 500x500px image with hotspots that 'change' when moused-over. I played with it outside of TW using jQuery as suggested at [1]. Because it's animated GIFs, the whole artwork is close to 1Mb. May needs trimming, but I'm keen to hear how you deal with loading times. Mario, what is the trick behind the expand-on-hover sidebar in the neui-em theme? That'd be handy. Mitchke and Måns, thanks for the links - nice stuff. Måns's example page [2] looks especially close to my aim (though I don't need my tiddlers to be moveable). Mitchke: > > I don't know if in a 'normal'TW you couldn't add an extra div to the template, place a tiddler there, give that div a low z-index or > position it in such a way with css so that the rest of the display > area renders on top of it. Give it a try... Looking at Måns's example space, this might work with z-index specified in pasteUp...? Off to experiment. [1] http://www.workwithchoicecuts.com/methodology/revisiting-the-html-image-map/ [2] http://imgmap.tiddlyspace.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Background image map
Let me add another design question. Ideally the image map would be the only thing a visitor sees initially, save for some tabs on the browser window sides which unfold to provide the main menu, side bar, search box, etc. Tiddlers would appear centred on top of the image map, opened either from those fold-outs or from the image map itself. No header. Any hints or pointers to a good theme to start from? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Background image map
Hello, How might one centre a clickable image map on the 'desktop background' of the TW page, and have any open tiddlers float above it (thus possibly obscuring it - that's OK)? [1] has info on opening tiddlers from an image map, but doesn't deal with the former floating over the latter. thanks, Kosmaton [1] https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/661e8e7f1c213889/179af92ad3f18bab -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: text box within a tiddler?
'tabContents' and 'annotation' don't seem to behave box-like for
multiple lines, but the 'tagged' boxes on your site look nice. It
doesn't work on my TW - must be because of existing theme/config
tiddlers. I'll play around with it, and also with the 'display' CSS
tag.
grazie,
Kosmaton
On Nov 22, 9:06 pm, tiziano de togni
wrote:
> Kosmaton ha scritto:
>
> > Thanks Dave -- interesting idea, but it's not ideal to have to make an
> > extra tiddler here. Just found {{menubox{...}}} in
>
> >http://www.tiddlytools.com/#StyleSheetShortcuts
>
> > This gives a white box with rounded corners. I'll go with that for
> > now. cheers,
>
> Forgot that there are other two built-in styles to be used for this
> purpose: "tabContents" and "annotation"
>
> regards
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[tw] Re: text box within a tiddler?
Thanks Dave -- interesting idea, but it's not ideal to have to make an
extra tiddler here. Just found {{menubox{...}}} in
http://www.tiddlytools.com/#StyleSheetShortcuts
This gives a white box with rounded corners. I'll go with that for
now. cheers,
Kosmaton
On Nov 22, 2:32 pm, Dave Parker wrote:
> would this work for you?
>
> in TiddlerOne:
> |<>|
>
> in TiddlerTwo:
> TiddlerTwo (so you can open it from Tiddler One)
> bla bla bla (several paragraphs)
>
> On Nov 22, 5:29 am, Kosmaton wrote:
>
> > Hello,
>
> > What is the best way to put some text in a box within a tiddler? I.e.
> > have the text display in a rectangle with a custom background and
> > border colour. The text contains equation markup that needs to be
> > evaluated, so //{{{...//}}} won't do, and it's multi-paragraph, so a
> > single-cell 'table' doesn't seem to work either, even if I put all of
> > the text between {{span{...}}} within the cell.
>
> > Thanks,
>
> > Kosmaton
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[tw] text box within a tiddler?
Hello,
What is the best way to put some text in a box within a tiddler? I.e.
have the text display in a rectangle with a custom background and
border colour. The text contains equation markup that needs to be
evaluated, so //{{{...//}}} won't do, and it's multi-paragraph, so a
single-cell 'table' doesn't seem to work either, even if I put all of
the text between {{span{...}}} within the cell.
Thanks,
Kosmaton
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[tw] Re: light TW: content tiddlers saved apart by default?
Thanks everyone. I installed TiddlyWeb using the [1] method but it's not working yet -- waiting to hear from the sysadmin if it might. ccTiddly may have a better chance as PHP and mySQL are on the server. I like Dropbox's functionality but want the wiki in-house. [2] looks promising but it's beta for now. [3] lists "offline working (sync)" as a ccTiddly feature; maybe that's all I need? I see with TiddlyWeb I can edit individual tiddlers in a text editor. Does it also provide an interface to see the result (per tiddler)? What about ccTiddly? thanks again Kosmaton [1] http://bengillies.net/.a/recipes/sitecontent/tiddlers/CGI%20and%20TiddlyWeb%201.0 [2] http://www.sparkleshare.org [3] http://tiddlywiki.org/wiki/CcTiddly On Nov 10, 12:13 pm, Alex Hough wrote: > If you have not looked into hosting on dropbox [1], i'd do so > I've got a project on three TWs hosted on Dropbox. It enables me to update > the files very easily > > best wishes > > ALex > [1]http://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTEzMTY4NjU5 > (ok - interest declared: it get me more dropbox space if you follow this > link) > [2]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1316865/AlexHough/SCiO/OMM.Sept2010/ommHome > > On 10 November 2010 11:58, whatever wrote: > > > Another possibility is ccTiddly (1), which uses mySQL and PHP. > > > w > > >http://tiddlywiki.org/wiki/CcTiddly > > > On Nov 10, 12:12 am, Tobias Beer wrote: > > > If you want to go down the server-side road, give TiddlyWeb a try. > > > However, very likely, the most dominant barrier will be that it asks > > > of you to use a (configurable) server that supports python ...rather > > > than a __much__ more widely supported php. Note that this really > > > doesn't say much about the quality of php vs. pyhton all by itself. > > > > Cheers, Tobias. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "TiddlyWiki" group. > > To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: light TW: content tiddlers saved apart by default?
Thanks for your reply Måns; but I'm not sure that's it exactly.
I'm not looking for occasional import or export, but rather a TW where
everything is by default stored in separate files, much like a regular
website. But it would still behave like a regular TW.
I should mention I want to host this on a server. With what I have in
mind (a) I could upload a single edited tiddler file (from a local
copy) to the server, rather than the whole; and (b) viewing the TW,
but not all of its content, would consume less bandwidth.
I'd rather not use another type of wiki as I really like the tiddler-
based design.
Maybe one of these is the answer:
http://tiddlywiki.org/wiki/Server-Side_Solutions
But I'm not sure whether these do the separate-files thing, or where
to look first. And I have no experience with server-side
infrastructure.
Kosmaton
On Nov 9, 3:03 pm, Måns wrote:
> Hi Kosmaton> Is there a flavour of TW that only stores system/plugin tiddlers
> in
> > the main html file, and any other ('content') tiddlers in separate
> > files, by default?
>
> Checkout Eric's ImportExportPackage
> http://tiddlytools.com/#ImportExportPackage
> especially the
> ExportTiddlersPluginhttp://www.tiddlytools.com/#ExportTiddlersPlugin
> seehttp://www.tiddlytools.com/#ExportTiddlersPluginInfo. It allows
> you to store a PureStore file - a small HTML archive file containing
> tiddler data only (no core code). You can load PureStore files on
> demand with LoadTiddlersPlugin
> (seehttp://www.tiddlytools.com/#LoadTiddlersPlugin)..
> There are many different options i.e. TemporaryTiddlersPlugin blocks
> tiddlers tagged with "temporary" from being saved into the TW file and
> LoadTiddlersPlugin can use this function...
>
> Cheers Måns Mårtensson
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[tw] Re: Latest jsMath plugin release? Other offline non-MathML formulas?
> Perhaps there are some problems with the usb-stick? Probably: I just tried copying those files to a USB stick and there is no problem at all. (Except that it takes a _long_ time, with these 29000 files; also takes a long time to upload to a server. Might be worth checking whether MathJax really needs all these files all the time, or whether a subset is enough.) Try a different USB stick, or reformat that one? Or ask a USB guru :) Kosmaton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] light TW: content tiddlers saved apart by default?
Hello,
Is there a flavour of TW that only stores system/plugin tiddlers in
the main html file, and any other ('content') tiddlers in separate
files, by default?
Perhaps ArchivePlugin can be slightly modified to make 'archiving'
behaviour the default?
This in the interest of reducing download size over a mobile
connection.
thanks,
Kosmaton
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[tw] Re: Latest jsMath plugin release? Other offline non-MathML formulas?
Hello Yakov, That shouldn't be the case: unzipped MathJax should be about 17.7Mb. I have it working OK (using PluginMathJax). I got MathJax as a zip from http://sourceforge.net/projects/mathjax/files/ Perhaps you got it via Git instead, and something went wrong...? What's in those 1Gb? Kosmaton On Nov 8, 4:39 pm, Yakov wrote: > Ouch! Did anyone use MathJax? > > The thing is I expected that I would be as big as 15Mb, but this was > _before_ unzipping and after that it becomes as big as 1Gb! Is that > right? Did I missed something? > > On 5 ноя, 00:30, Kosmaton wrote: > > > > > Hello Yakov, I should've thought of that, you do need a > > plugin:http://tiddlywiki.canada-east.ca/#PluginMathJax > > > Have fun! > > > Kosmaton > > > On Nov 3, 9:18 pm, Yakov wrote: > > > > MathJax doesn't have a plugin to use it, does it? Do I need to write > > > somewhat like formatter to use it in TW? > > > > On 3 ноя, 23:30, Yakov wrote: > > > > > Thank you, Kosmaton, very much. > > > > > I'll try the things out. > > > > > Yes, I did install the fonts.. ouh! That's funny. Today the jsMath > > > > repository works well in Opera also.. Weird thing. Perhaps previous > > > > time I installed the fonts but did not restart Opera. Ok. > > > > > On 2 ноя, 23:50, Kosmaton wrote: > > > > > > > Yep, there's alsohttp://bob.mcelrath.org/tiddlyjsmath.htmlbutasI > > > > > > can't even see anything but "L_AT^EX TiddlyWiki" header in Opera > > > > > > Did you download the Tex fonts from [1]? After installing these all is > > > > > looking good for me, in Firefox, Opera, Chrome (not sure about Opera > > > > > Mobile). But the user/client must have/download these fonts, which may > > > > > be an issue if you want to show the page to others. > > > > > > MathJax [2] seems to do a similar thing but stores the fonts (and > > > > > other files) server-side. That may be better. It's ~15Mb though; > > > > > jsMath is much smaller. > > > > > > With either of these, to use them online you must be able to install > > > > > the .js and other files to your server. To use them offline you need a > > > > > local copy of these files near your TW HTML file, I suppose. > > > > > > MathSVGPlugin [3] needs no extra files (and does graphics) but > > > > > requires MathML, so it may be no use for you. > > > > > > good luck! > > > > > > [1]http://www.math.union.edu/~dpvc/jsMath/download/jsMath-fonts.html > > > > > [2]http://www.mathjax.org/resources/docs/?start.html > > > > > [3]http://www.math.ist.utl.pt/~psoares/MathSVG.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: TW markup: nested numbered list containing bullet-less table?
Indeed the more general container-in-a-list idea is very useful, too.
{{span{}}} from your StyleSheetShortcuts seems perfect for that.
> All you need to do is to move the "{{centeredTable{" syntax onto the
> same line as the bullet item it 'belongs' to
...and this also allows for nicely spaced list items by substituting a
couple of s for "{{centeredTable{". Cool :)
Thanks Eric!
Kosmaton
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[tw] TW markup: nested numbered list containing bullet-less table?
Hello,
I'm trying to get this:
1. item1
· bullet1
· bullet2:
Here goes a table
2. item2
If I do:
# item1
** bullet1
** bullet2
{{centeredTable{
|t|a|b|
|l|e|.|
}}}
# item2
item2 is not numbered "2." but "1." presumably because the table stuff
breaks the chain of numbers and bullets. Is there a way around this?
thanks,
Kosmaton
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[tw] Re: Latest jsMath plugin release? Other offline non-MathML formulas?
Hello Yakov, I should've thought of that, you do need a plugin: http://tiddlywiki.canada-east.ca/#PluginMathJax Have fun! Kosmaton On Nov 3, 9:18 pm, Yakov wrote: > MathJax doesn't have a plugin to use it, does it? Do I need to write > somewhat like formatter to use it in TW? > > On 3 ноя, 23:30, Yakov wrote: > > > Thank you, Kosmaton, very much. > > > I'll try the things out. > > > Yes, I did install the fonts.. ouh! That's funny. Today the jsMath > > repository works well in Opera also.. Weird thing. Perhaps previous > > time I installed the fonts but did not restart Opera. Ok. > > > On 2 ноя, 23:50, Kosmaton wrote: > > > > > Yep, there's alsohttp://bob.mcelrath.org/tiddlyjsmath.htmlbutasI > > > > can't even see anything but "L_AT^EX TiddlyWiki" header in Opera > > > > Did you download the Tex fonts from [1]? After installing these all is > > > looking good for me, in Firefox, Opera, Chrome (not sure about Opera > > > Mobile). But the user/client must have/download these fonts, which may > > > be an issue if you want to show the page to others. > > > > MathJax [2] seems to do a similar thing but stores the fonts (and > > > other files) server-side. That may be better. It's ~15Mb though; > > > jsMath is much smaller. > > > > With either of these, to use them online you must be able to install > > > the .js and other files to your server. To use them offline you need a > > > local copy of these files near your TW HTML file, I suppose. > > > > MathSVGPlugin [3] needs no extra files (and does graphics) but > > > requires MathML, so it may be no use for you. > > > > good luck! > > > > [1]http://www.math.union.edu/~dpvc/jsMath/download/jsMath-fonts.html > > > [2]http://www.mathjax.org/resources/docs/?start.html > > > [3]http://www.math.ist.utl.pt/~psoares/MathSVG.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Latest jsMath plugin release? Other offline non-MathML formulas?
> Yep, there's alsohttp://bob.mcelrath.org/tiddlyjsmath.htmlbut as I > can't even see anything but "L_AT^EX TiddlyWiki" header in Opera Did you download the Tex fonts from [1]? After installing these all is looking good for me, in Firefox, Opera, Chrome (not sure about Opera Mobile). But the user/client must have/download these fonts, which may be an issue if you want to show the page to others. MathJax [2] seems to do a similar thing but stores the fonts (and other files) server-side. That may be better. It's ~15Mb though; jsMath is much smaller. With either of these, to use them online you must be able to install the .js and other files to your server. To use them offline you need a local copy of these files near your TW HTML file, I suppose. MathSVGPlugin [3] needs no extra files (and does graphics) but requires MathML, so it may be no use for you. good luck! [1] http://www.math.union.edu/~dpvc/jsMath/download/jsMath-fonts.html [2] http://www.mathjax.org/resources/docs/?start.html [3] http://www.math.ist.utl.pt/~psoares/MathSVG.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
