[tw] Use MediaWiki = headlines = ?

[Sub]

Is there a plugin that enables MediaWiki-style headlines?

I'd like both to work:

!Headline

and

= Headline =

Cheers

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[tw] Re: Use MediaWiki = headlines = ?

[Sub]

Ah great! Another great ressourse.

Thanks

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[tw] Search result highlight for links

[Sub]

When the search you open a tiddler from search results, the matched
terms are highlighted by putting it in a span with the
class=highlight.

That doesn't work when the term is a link. Example: Search Tiddlywiki
and Dropbox on http://tiddlywiki.com

Somebody knows a solution?

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[tw] Re: Lists in tables?

[Sub]

To explain the workaround / colleagues thingy: I do have a clue and
don't mind using hack solutions. I use TW as a shared wiki at work
with colleagues who never edited Wikipedia or used HTML tags before.
It's hard to communicate TW as proper wiki solution when basic
features as this are not supported. Even more when the support forum
replies it's not needed and we should Excel for our website layout
etc...

@Scott Simmons: as HansBKK explained, embedding a list inside a table
cell isn't part of the intended basic functionality of the web.
I don't think that's the reason why TW doesn't suport this.
It's the old line break problem again imo.

@nemo: Wow! I'm coming from MW so this is extremely useful, thanks!
So proper line-break parsing IS possible!? Would it be possible to to
create paragraphs as MW does?:
Foo

Bar

would return
pFoo/p
pBar/p

instead of
FoobrbrBar

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[tw] Re: Lists in tables?

[Sub]

Thanks for the reply, but it's just another complicated hack solution
for a simple thing like a list in a table cell.

I'm using TW at work and solutions like this are useless since you
cannot seriously explain it to your colleagues.


On Jul 8, 4:12 pm, Måns humam...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Sub

  |cell|* list item 1
  *list item 2|
  |cell|cell|

  I searched and found 2 hack solutions which are not practicable at
  all.

  Is there a proper solution?

 Basic tools in TW are macros.
 One way to insert multiline content into a tablecell is to use the
 tiddlermacro:
 tiddler TiddlerTitle or more detailed tiddler
 TiddlerTitle##TiddlerSection or tiddler
 TiddlerTitle::tiddlerslice

 If you want to show a list in a cell you can do it like this:

 |tiddler TiddlerTitle|

 where [[TiddlerTitle]] contains the list - or you can put the list in
 a hidden section in the current tiddler containing the table - like
 this:

 |tiddler TiddlerTitle##List|
 /%
 !List
 *ListItem#1
 *ListItem#2
 !end
 %/

 Cheers Måns Mårtensson
 (Btw - I'm NOT a programmer - just using TW for everything I can think
 of...)







  All these missing BASIC features are the reason why TW will never be
  used by the masses. It's only cool for users who have experience in
  Skriv teksten til 'New Tiddler 'prgramming / webdesign.

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[tw] Re: Lists in tables?

[Sub]

Stop guessing purposes and judging other people by single posts on the
internet you troll.

Putting a list into a table cell requires such workarounds because
it's
something that the designers of the web never intended.

LOL!!

On Jul 9, 6:52 pm, HansBKK hans...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Saturday, July 9, 2011 8:03:11 PM UTC+7, Sub wrote:

  Thanks for the reply, but it's just another complicated hack solution
  for a simple thing like a list in a table cell.

  I'm using TW at work and solutions like this are useless since you
  cannot seriously explain it to your colleagues.

 Putting a list into a table cell requires such workarounds because it's
 something that the designers of the web never intended.

 You're trying to use a table for layout, trying to get a certain display of
 your content within a tiddler, correct?

 In HTML a table cell is designed to hold a single datum, since a table is
 intended to lay out tabular data, as in a database table.

 You should be using CSS for layout, but that does take a certain amount of
 knowledge and experience.

 Maybe you should be using something like Excel for layout, might be more
 appropriate for your and your colleague's skill level. . .

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[tw] Re: Lists in tables?

[Sub]

I'm sorry if you're affended by my reply, but I'm not sorry for
reacting this way to HansBKK's troll attack against me.

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[tw] Re: Lists in tables?

[Sub]

My inentention of this thread may have been only showing my
disappointment for missing basic features such as lists in table cells
rather than looking for a simple solution.

My first reply to Mans may sound negative because he only wanted to
help (and I thanked him for that) but actually it's only negative
against TW which you of course feel attacked by.

But I def do not apologize for my reply to HansBKK's flame attack
against me.

On Jul 9, 11:55 pm, Eric Shulman elsdes...@gmail.com wrote:
  Stop guessing purposes and judging other people by single posts on the
  internet you troll.

 This is a *very* friendly group.  Unlike other groups, many people in
 the TW community are quick to offer their assistance, and we do NOT
 insult people here, regardless of the questions, or the responses!

 You began, reasonably enough, by asking for help from the TW community
 to solve a problem you are facing, but regrettably also included some
 unneeded negative commentary about how TW will never be used by the
 masses, a statement that is sure to annoy at least some people in
 this group.

 Then, after a *work-around* solution was presented by @Mans, you
 responded in a dismissive and unpleasant manner, calling the offered
 help useless because *you* feel unable to explain it well enough to
 your co-workers.

 Even if this work-around doesn't actually help your particular use-
 case, you might consider that *other people* might find the responses
 informative or useful, even if you don't.

 In addition, when @HansBKK offered another perspective on the topic,
 he was not judging or disrespecting you in any way.  However, after
 similarly dismissing his thoughts without any discussion, you
 responded with a *personal attack* by calling him a troll.

 Frankly, I find *your* the style of communication to be troll-ish as
 well as being paradoxically both self-defeating (working against your
 own goals) AND self-fulfilling (matching your negative expectations)
 at the same time:

 You ask for help, but respond with negativity that discourages people
 from wanting to put in any effort to help you find a simple, effective
 solution to your particular problem.  This, in turn, reinforces your
 perception that TiddlyWiki is missing BASIC features and will never
 be used by the masses because it consists of complicated hack
 solution(s) for a simple thing(s).

 I *strongly* suggest that, before you consider asking this group for
 help again, you should post a suitable *public* apology to both Mans
 and HansBKK.  Then, moving forward, leave the negative attitude at
 the door and show some basic manners and courtesy when people attempt
 to offer their assistance.

 Note: if the negativity continues, I will unsubscribe you from the
 group and block your posts (something I have, thus far, only done to
 *spammers*).

 -e
 Eric Shulman
 TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
 (and TiddlyWiki/TiddlyWikiDev GoogleGroups administrator)

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[tw] Lists in tables?

[Sub]

|cell|* list item 1
*list item 2|
|cell|cell|

I searched and found 2 hack solutions which are not practicable at
all.

Is there a proper solution?

All these missing BASIC features are the reason why TW will never be
used by the masses. It's only cool for users who have experience in
prgramming / webdesign.

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[tw] Re: List of Open Tidders

[Sub]

Please let us know if it worked with the alpha. I couldn't get it
working as described above.

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[tw] Re: Can I reduce the spacing between paragraphs?

[Sub]

.multipleLinebreak {margin-top:3px}

/* remove br space pre boxes when followed by heading */
pre+br+h1, pre+br+h2, pre+br+h3, pre+br+h4, pre+br+h5, pre+br+h6
 {margin-top:-5px !important}

/* remove space below lists when followed by heading */
ul+br+h1, ul+br+h2, ul+br+h3, ul+br+h4, ul+br+h5, ul+br+h6,
ol+br+h1, ol+br+h2, ol+br+h3, ol+br+h4, ol+br+h5, ol+br+h6
 {margin-top:-8px !important}

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[tw] Re: help with permalinks

[Sub]

Unfortunatly it only works with CameCaseTitles

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[tw] Re: Image hosting

[Sub]

best is to host images yourself on the server.

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[tw] Re: help with permalinks

[Sub]

I ment CamelCase.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camelcase
http://tiddlywiki.com/#CamelCase

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[tw] Re: help with permalinks

[Sub]

By TiddlyWiki default: yes. I hope someone posts a hack solution as I
have the same problem as you described.

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[tw] Re: help with permalinks

[Sub]

Thanks for the explaination Eric. So as said, it's not really working.

Out of curiosity: Can't javascript grab URL parameters*? Wouldn't this
work
http:///path/filename.html?open=Title%20with%20spaces
when TW grabs the open parameter and treats it like as if a [[[Title
with spaces]] link inside TW content was clicked? If so, the permalink
in the toolbar could easily link to
http:///path/filename.html?open=Title%20with%20spaces instead of
file:///D:/word/TiddlyWiki/wiki.html#[[New%20Tiddler]]

* http://www.netlobo.com/url_query_string_javascript.html

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[tw] Re: help with permalinks

[Sub]

Edit: instead of
http:///path/filename.html#[[Title with spaces]]

On Jun 12, 9:51 pm, Sub subfa...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Thanks for the explaination Eric. So as said, it's not really working.

 Out of curiosity: Can't javascript grab URL parameters*? Wouldn't this
 workhttp:///path/filename.html?open=Title%20with%20spaces
 when TW grabs the open parameter and treats it like as if a [[[Title
 with spaces]] link inside TW content was clicked? If so, the permalink
 in the toolbar could easily link 
 tohttp:///path/filename.html?open=Title%20with%20spacesinstead of
 file:///D:/word/TiddlyWiki/wiki.html#[[New%20Tiddler]]

 *http://www.netlobo.com/url_query_string_javascript.html

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[tw] Aw: Re: Indent pre?

[Sub]

Actually I wanted to avoid the html tag, but it looks cleaner. 

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[tw] Re: Indent pre?

[Sub]

That's CSS and no solution to my problem, since I want to use normal
pre boxes as well.
The problem is how to indent thos in lists so the DOM is
dddlpre...

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[tw] Re: Indent pre?

[Sub]

Again, not the solution of my problem... I don't want to style it, I
want to produce that output!

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[tw] Re: Indent pre?

[Sub]

Ah ok, thanks.

* List item 2 - Code:
{{classname{
{{{
Foo bar
}}}
}}}
* List item 3

is a bit uncomfortable. I was hoping for an inhouse solution. In
MediaWiki you can indent pretty much everything. E.g.
* List
: preFoo bar/pre

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[tw] Re: Indent pre?

[Sub]

LOL, damn br tags.

* List item 1
{{classname{
{{{
Code
}}}
}}}
* List item 2

produces too many br tags above List item 2.

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[tw] Re: Indent pre?

[Sub]

Even in Google groups posts :O
Very buggy forum.

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[tw] Re: Indent pre?

[Sub]

Ah nested element!
pre* List item 1
* {{block{List item 2 - Code:
{{{
Foo bar
}}}
}}}
* List item 3/pre
This works fine :) The previous
pre* List item 2 - Code:
{{classname{
{{{
Foo bar
}}}
}}}
* List item 3/pre
created even 2 lists with List item 3 in a seperate list.

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[tw] Indent pre?

[Sub]

How to indent a pre box without using html?

* List item 1
* List item 2 - Code:
:{{{
Foo bar
}}}
* List item 3

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[tw] Re: Can I reduce the spacing between paragraphs?

[Sub]

thanks. http://axs.tiddlyspot.com/#LineBreakPlugin works great.
I use .multipleLinebreak {margin-top:3px}

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[tw] Re: Can I reduce the spacing between paragraphs?

[Sub]

Bug: Doesn't work after ul, ol, pre.

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[tw] Re: image in system message

[Sub]

Ah CSS. Thanks. I use

mainSaved: ,

[[StyleSheet]]
#messageArea {
  position:absolute;
  top:0;
  right:-5px;
  min-width:16px;
  min-height:16px;
  background: url(i/save.gif) no-repeat;
 }

min width is needed so it looks properly on start-up too.

On May 25, 1:16 am, Måns humam...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Sub

  Actually I want to display an icon everytime a back is saved, but

  mainSaved: img src='i/save.gif',
  ... How would I do it instead?

 Don't know if this will work for your usecase - however you could try
 it out - and adjust the layout to fit your image..

 [[StyleSheet]]

 #messageArea {position:fixed;
                 top:0em;
                 left: 1em;
                 width: 13.7em;
                 margin:0em;
                 padding:0.5em; z-index:2000; _position:absolute;
                 background: url(i/save.gif) no-repeat;
                 border: none;
                 font-family: Lucida Grande arial;
                 font-size: .85em;
                 -moz-border-radius: 0 0 2px 2px;
                 }
 .messageToolbar {display:block; text-align:right; padding:0.9em 0.2em
 0.2em 0.2em}
 #messageArea a {text-decoration:underline;color: #000;}

 Cheers Måns Mårtensson

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[tw] Re: Can I reduce the spacing between paragraphs?

[Sub]

I'd like that too, but it's currently impossible.

Mainly because the systems converts it to TextbrbrText which you
can't affect via CSS.

But real p tags generated by the system would be hard

Can't bump this old topic:
http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/7196ce49855b11c9/9b1812a9b72c760f?hl=enlnk=gstq=proper+paragraphs#9b1812a9b72c760f

Maybe someone could take a look at how MediaWiki's parser does it and
if it could be adapted.

For now you could define the line-height for text inside tiddlers and
margin-bottom for ul, ol and / or li.

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[tw] Re: Can I reduce the spacing between paragraphs?

[Sub]

Inside html/html: no way. that's not a solution. Same for a new
wiki markup definition. You wouldn't use it.

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[tw] Re: Firefox 4 compatibility issue

[Sub]

Didn't notice it till I read this thread, but I have it too (FF,
Chrome, IE).

BackStageRemove
DisableWikiLinksPlugin
HTMLFormattingPlugin
ImageSizePlugin
InlineJavascriptPlugin
SimpleSearchPlugin

Downloaded a fresh TW from http://www.tiddlywiki.com and it's there
too in all browsers.

Looks like this is intended behaviour!


On 24 Mai, 06:17, rnio...@gmail.com rnio...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rats... I'm not using the PartTiddlerPlugin... It's got to have some
 other cause too...
 Rich

 On May 23, 4:17 am, elnoi elnoi...@gmail.com wrote:







  It happens to me too and it's certainly annoying.
  I've tried with blank tiddlywikis (with no plugins) and it only
  happens in versions previous to 2.6.2
  In my case, the fact is that I have no choice but to work with version
  2.4.3.
  If there's someone who has a solution, it'kll be very wellcome.

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[tw] Re: How can I get the search function to ignore accented foreign words?

[Sub]

Not too easily. The search is not super precise, it's just simple.

On May 23, 9:36 pm, kev kj...@hotmail.com wrote:
 I've got a TW with all my Chinese notes in it but when I want to
 search for a particular word I have to add the accent mark - but I
 don't usually want to do that.

 For example I want to search for mǎi but it is cumbersome to always
 have to find the accent on the keyboard. All I need to do is search
 for mai (with a space and that will usually be sufficient for my
 purposes. If I do search for mai the search engine is so precise I
 have to use the accented word. So really I want to do a fuzzy search.
 Is it possible?

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[tw] image in system message

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I want to display an image in of the message definitions of
merge(config.messages,{...

Actually I want to display an icon everytime a back is saved, but

mainSaved: img src='i/save.gif',

returns the tags being converted to html entities gt; and lt;

I blame

if(save) {
displayMessage(config.messages.mainSaved,file:// + localPath);
store.setDirty(false);
}

for it. How would I do it instead?

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[tw] click on tiddler link closes tiddler?

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I just discovered that when I click on a tiddler link (in menu or in
text) it closes the tiddler when it's open already (instead of jumping
to it).

What confuses me most is that I have it in FF but not in Chrome and
the same with a fresh TW from http://www.tiddlywiki.com but not on
http://www.tiddlywiki.com itself in FF.

Anyone else got this problem?

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[tw] Re: click on tiddler link closes tiddler?

[Sub]

Must have clicked that accitently. I just found that too in teh
search. Sorry for not using it before.

Yeah the cookie options are bad sometimes. I have overridden some
defaults already in the code manually already.

On May 24, 11:48 pm, Eric Shulman elsdes...@gmail.com wrote:
  I just discovered that when I click on a tiddler link (in menu or in
  text) it closes the tiddler when it's open already (instead of jumping
  to it).

  What confuses me most is that I have it in FF but not in Chrome and
  the same with a fresh TW fromhttp://www.tiddlywiki.combutnot 
  onhttp://www.tiddlywiki.comitselfin FF.

 This is controlled by a TW option setting.  See the
 [[AdvancedOptions]] shadow tiddler in your document.

 Look for the setting named chkToggleLinks.

 Note: options are stored using *cookies*... that is why you get
 different settings for different browsers and for documents stored on
 different domains.

 enjoy,
 -e
 Eric Shulman
 TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
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[tw] Re: Firefox 4 compatibility issue

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It only happens to tiddlers whose height is smaller than the window
height.

This seems like a fixable bug, no?

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[tw] Re: Firefox 4 compatibility issue

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It only happens to tiddlers whose height is smaller than the window
height.

Sounds like a fixable bug, no?

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[tw] Re: Hot to move backstage section?

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Thanks, this works perfectly! :)

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[tw] Firefox Addon Pinger doesn't work

[Sub]

I use the Firefox Addon Pinger 
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/pinger/
to check a list of links regulary.

Unfortunatly it doesn't check any links in TW. I only got to work
links in the menu on the left.

Anone knows how to fix it?

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[tw] Re: Firefox Addon Pinger doesn't work

[Sub]

Thanks for your fast reply.

Sorry if I was a bit unclear. The list are all external links to some
normal websites (no TWs). The list a report of all external link in my
CMS and I want to store them in my TW.

When I open the tiddler and richt-click  Ping all links, nothing
happens and only 2 external links in the left menu are checked.

The source code of both (external links in the tiddler and in the
menu) seem not very special and similar.

Maybe Pinger doesn't recognize tiddlers as webpage content?

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[tw] Firefox doesn't remember my script warning OK

[Sub]

Firefox warns me about the script being dangerous after every reboot,
although I click Remember my decission each time.

Any hint how to fix it so Firefox remembers my TW as being SAFE (if
possible without disabling important security checks in about:config)?

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[tw] Re: Firefox doesn't remember my script warning OK

[Sub]

I prefer it that way actually -- I have some tiddlywiki on thumb
drives and I don't want to do any saves unless I know the virus
scanner has taken a look first.

But it only asks on the first edit per day. How is that safe.


On Apr 25, 2:43 pm, Will william.r.ma...@gmail.com wrote:
 That's not a new behaviour. FF 3 and 4 checked even after a 'sleep'
 mode or 'hibernate'.

 I prefer it that way actually -- I have some tiddlywiki on thumb
 drives and I don't want to do any saves unless I know the virus
 scanner has taken a look first.

 On Apr 25, 7:41 pm, Sub subfa...@googlemail.com wrote:







  Firefox warns me about the script being dangerous after every reboot,
  although I click Remember my decission each time.

  Any hint how to fix it so Firefox remembers my TW as being SAFE (if
  possible without disabling important security checks in about:config)?

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[tw] Re: Beautify external url link text

[Sub]

I know how to use links. But that what I requested.

On Apr 15, 12:54 am, PMario pmari...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 Just use
 [[Pretty text|http://your/long/url/comes/here]] will create a Pretty
 text link.

 see:http://docs.tiddlyspace.com/#[[Links%20formatting]] for more
 -m

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[tw] Beautify external url link text

[Sub]

Hi, want to beuatify the external links that are created from a plain
text URL (I think they are called urlLink):

Remove http://, https:// and www. prefixes:
http://www.google.com returns google.com as link text

Shorten long URLs:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=qsource=s_qhl=engeocode=q=nycaq=sll=43.071878,-92.865534sspn=46.773316,78.75ie=UTF8hq=hnear=New+Yorkz=11
returns maps.google.com/maps?f=qsource=s_qhl=e...r=New+Yorkz=11

The algorithm could be: if link text without prefix is longer than 60
chars, split into 25 chars behind domain, ... and 15 chars at the
end.

Combined:
http://www.google.com/calendar?hl=entab=gc returns
google.com/calendar?hl=entab=gc

Is there an extension that could do this?

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