Re: [tw] [TW5] Avoid the "Recent" tab

[Mark Heptinstall]

Thanks, was this information already in the documentation?

I'm very new to TiddlyWiki so may have been looking in the wrong place.

On Thursday, October 20, 2016 at 9:57:10 PM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
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>
> Can the Recent tab be disabled?
>
>
> Yes, just delete the tag "$:/tags/SideBar” from the tiddler 
> "$:/core/ui/SideBar/Recent”.
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Re: [tw] [TW5] Avoid the "Recent" tab

[Josiah]

Ciao Jeremy, Thomas & Mark H.

Just a general comment.

Since TW is one file running in a BROWSER it makes sense to HONE usage to 
match what you need do most often. In my use of TW I switch OFF as much as 
possible

PART of the issue is the sheer INEFFICIENCY of major browsers at memory 
handling. TBH browsers (Firefox, Chrome) cause me more hassle than most 
anything else on my computer now. Their memory architecture is pathetic.

There is a lesson in that, because TW can only function as well as its 
host. What is my point? That some issues in TW are nothing directly to do 
with it, but essentially current browser limits.

Best wishes
Josiah

On Friday, 21 October 2016 09:36:39 UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
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> Hi Thomas 
>
> > So one could set a lower limit to speed things up? (And maybe add a 
> more… link) 
>
> Yes. But you’d probably get more of an improvement from replacing the 
> current “Recent” tab with a variant that showed a plain list of titles and 
> dates, rather than grouping the tiddlers by day, which is an expensive 
> operation. 
>
> I’ve answered the questions here directly, but I’m concerned that a narrow 
> answer can be misleading. 
>
> Software developers are taught that premature optimisation is evil; 
> instead, we’re taught to measure, measure and measure again, and make sure 
> that any changes have the expected impact. 
>
> So a useful conclusion to be drawn from this thread is not that everyone 
> should go and re-engineer their “Recent” tab, but rather this: if there is 
> a noticeable pause when switching to the “Recent” tab then your wiki 
> probably qualifies as a “big wiki” (or your browser qualifies as a slow 
> browser :). 
>
> In that situation, the first thing I would do is think about how I use the 
> wiki, and just avoid the operations that are time consuming. Only as an 
> absolute last resort would I start to customise the wiki, and I would do so 
> with stopwatch in hand to ensure that my efforts were directed in the most 
> effective way. 
>
> Best wishes 
>
> Jeremy 
>
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> > 
> > Kind regards 
> > Thomas 
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Re: [tw] [TW5] Avoid the "Recent" tab

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Thomas

> So one could set a lower limit to speed things up? (And maybe add a more… 
> link)

Yes. But you’d probably get more of an improvement from replacing the current 
“Recent” tab with a variant that showed a plain list of titles and dates, 
rather than grouping the tiddlers by day, which is an expensive operation.

I’ve answered the questions here directly, but I’m concerned that a narrow 
answer can be misleading.

Software developers are taught that premature optimisation is evil; instead, 
we’re taught to measure, measure and measure again, and make sure that any 
changes have the expected impact.

So a useful conclusion to be drawn from this thread is not that everyone should 
go and re-engineer their “Recent” tab, but rather this: if there is a 
noticeable pause when switching to the “Recent” tab then your wiki probably 
qualifies as a “big wiki” (or your browser qualifies as a slow browser :).

In that situation, the first thing I would do is think about how I use the 
wiki, and just avoid the operations that are time consuming. Only as an 
absolute last resort would I start to customise the wiki, and I would do so 
with stopwatch in hand to ensure that my efforts were directed in the most 
effective way.

Best wishes

Jeremy


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Re: [tw] [TW5] Avoid the "Recent" tab

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi Jeremy

So one could set a lower limit to speed things up? (And maybe add a more… link)

Kind regards 
Thomas 

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Avoid the "Recent" tab

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Mark

> Avoid the "Recent" tab - http://tiddlywiki.com/#Performance
> 
> It would be useful if this could be elaborated on some more.
> Is this basically saying don't even click on the Recent tab or is there more 
> to it?

It’s pointing out that the “Recent” is time-consuming for the system to 
generate. With a big wiki there is a noticeable delay when switching to the 
tab. In such situations, you’d normally want to avoid switching to it unless 
you really need it.

> Can the Recent tab be disabled?

Yes, just delete the tag "$:/tags/SideBar” from the tiddler 
"$:/core/ui/SideBar/Recent”.

There’s a default limit of 100 entries on the recent changes list which gives 
an upper limit on how much impact there can be from switching to the “Recent” 
tab.

Best wishes

Jeremy




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[tw] [TW5] Avoid the "Recent" tab

[Mark Heptinstall]

Avoid the "Recent" tab - http://tiddlywiki.com/#Performance

It would be useful if this could be elaborated on some more.
Is this basically saying don't even click on the Recent tab or is there 
more to it? Can the Recent tab be disabled?

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