[tw] Re: [TW5] New to TW, with some questions!

2014-11-04 Thread Suzanne McHale
I installed Readonly, and uploaded my tiddly to my website, and followed 
the instructions, and it seemed to work -  but as soon as I refresh the 
browser - or open the page in another browser - all the tools are visible 
again! For some reason the changes don't seem to stick. Is there some step I 
am missing?

On Friday, October 31, 2014 9:20:56 PM UTC+11, Ton Gerner wrote:

 Hi Suzanne,

 Yes for TiddlySpot you need to use Chrome for the *first* upload.

 For the Readonly plugin:
 After installing, open $:/plugins/tongerner/ro/publish and follow the 
 instructions.

 If these instructions are not clear, just ask.

 Cheers,

 Ton





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[tw] Re: [TW5] New to TW, with some questions!

2014-11-04 Thread Sylvain Naudin


Le mercredi 5 novembre 2014 01:55:10 UTC+1, Suzanne McHale a écrit :

 I installed Readonly, and uploaded my tiddly to my website, and followed 
 the instructions, and it seemed to work -  but as soon as I refresh the 
 browser - or open the page in another browser - all the tools are visible 
 again! For some reason the changes don't seem to stick. Is there some step 
 I am missing?


Hi Suzanne,

*uploaded my tiddly to my website, and followed the instructions, and it 
 seemed to work*


If you upload your file before followed the instructions, you can't save 
(or you have a server side mechanism). You should do locally, save, and 
then upload your file. 

Du you try on your desktop ?

Cheers,
Sylvain

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[tw] Re: [TW5] New to TW, with some questions!

2014-11-04 Thread Suzanne McHale
Hi Sylvain,
I did as you suggested (change settings locally, then upload) and that 
seems to have worked! So that issue is solved, I hope :)

On Wednesday, November 5, 2014 5:43:49 PM UTC+11, Sylvain Naudin wrote:



 Le mercredi 5 novembre 2014 01:55:10 UTC+1, Suzanne McHale a écrit :

 I installed Readonly, and uploaded my tiddly to my website, and followed 
 the instructions, and it seemed to work -  but as soon as I refresh the 
 browser - or open the page in another browser - all the tools are visible 
 again! For some reason the changes don't seem to stick. Is there some step 
 I am missing?


 Hi Suzanne,

 *uploaded my tiddly to my website, and followed the instructions, and it 
 seemed to work*


 If you upload your file before followed the instructions, you can't save 
 (or you have a server side mechanism). You should do locally, save, and 
 then upload your file. 

 Du you try on your desktop ?

 Cheers,
 Sylvain


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[tw] Re: [TW5] New to TW, with some questions!

2014-11-04 Thread Suzanne McHale
Thumbnail images - mixing HTML with TW syntax works to link to an outside 
image - a href=images/image.png[img[image.png]]/a

On Friday, October 31, 2014 7:04:46 PM UTC+11, Suzanne McHale wrote:

 Thanks for replying!

 HTML: oh good, that will save me a lot of work!

 Images: I'll try with HTML syntax and see how that goes.

 I have an account on Tiddlyspot, and am getting that error 
 (Error:NS_ERROR_DOM_BAD_URI: 
 Access to restricted URI denied) when saving on my local copy as 
 described in http://tiddlywiki.com/#Saving%20on%20TiddlySpot, so I guess 
 I will have to install Chrome :-/ Otherwise I have managed to import my 
 local one at least!

 On Friday, October 31, 2014 6:29:57 PM UTC+11, Stephan Hradek wrote:




 I have just started using TW5 and generally like it - compared to what I 
 have been using (Dokuwiki), it is much more compact and I like that it is 
 self-contained.


 Welcome to the community!
  


- Is it OK to mix wiki and HTML markup? In my main project I have 
nearly 200 Dokuwiki files (which I exported as HTML also) and the 
 thought 
of trying to manually convert all that to TW markup is daunting :-(.

 It's YOUR Wiki. So if it is okay for you, then it is okay.
  


- Is there a way to embed a small thumbnail image and link this to 
an external larger image? This seemed to be possible in TW Classic (see 
http://tiddlywiki.tiddlyspace.com/#Images), but the syntax doesn't 
seem to work in TW5.

 Should be possible. At least with html syntax. But as I don't often work 
 with images, better wait for others to reply.
  


- Will there be a read-only option implemented in future versions? 
The lack of this is a major discouragement for me in using TW5 - I would 
like to be able to upload it to my website so that others can read but 
 only 
I can edit when online. That was one feature I liked with Dokuwiki (it 
 was 
password-protected with myself as the sole user, but it could still be 
 read 
by others). I have installed the plugin from 
http://tw5readonly.tiddlyspot.com/, but am not clear on how to 
implement it.

 If you put your wiki on (e.g.) tiddlyspot, you have it password 
 protected. Only you can change. Everyone else can edit, but cannot save the 
 changes. To be honest: I really like that, as it offers the possibility for 
 me to try and change things in other's tiddlywikis which is very helpful 
 when helping them in fixing stuff.



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[tw] Re: [TW5] New to TW, with some questions!

2014-11-01 Thread Sylvain Naudin
Hi Ton,

I have just one question about RO plugin, how can I save to 4) explanation, 
if we don't have anymore the *Save button* ? I miss something ^^'

This plugin is pretty usefull, but if we know permalink, user can still 
have *fake* write option (can't save of course), for exemple  to display 
ControlPanel #%24%3A%2FControlPanel, or I'm wrong ?

Thanks,
Sylvain

NB : sorry Suzanne to use your post ;)


Le vendredi 31 octobre 2014 11:20:56 UTC+1, Ton Gerner a écrit :

 For the Readonly plugin:
 After installing, open $:/plugins/tongerner/ro/publish and follow the 
 instructions.

 If these instructions are not clear, just ask.

 Cheers,

 Ton


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[tw] Re: [TW5] New to TW, with some questions!

2014-11-01 Thread Ton Gerner
Hi Sylvain,

On Saturday, November 1, 2014 10:08:44 AM UTC+1, Sylvain Naudin wrote:

 Hi Ton,

 I have just one question about RO plugin, how can I save to 4) 
 explanation, if we don't have anymore the *Save button* ? I miss 
 something ^^'

 
Oops. It turned out I upgraded from the wrong version so the 'special' 
$:/plugins/tongerner/ro/image-save-button was missing. I uploaded a 
corrected version v2.93.which shows the Save button at the bottom of the 
Publish tiddler. I also added a link to the Publish tiddler in the 'readme' 
of the plugin.


 This plugin is pretty usefull, but if we know permalink, user can still 
 have *fake* write option (can't save of course), for exemple  to display 
 ControlPanel #%24%3A%2FControlPanel, or I'm wrong ?


You are completely right, it is not foolproof. Even the Sidebar button - 
although made invisible - is still active; display: none; didn't work 
totally there as mentioned in the 'Known hitches'.

Cheers,

Ton


 Thanks,
 Sylvain

 NB : sorry Suzanne to use your post ;)


 Le vendredi 31 octobre 2014 11:20:56 UTC+1, Ton Gerner a écrit :

 For the Readonly plugin:
 After installing, open $:/plugins/tongerner/ro/publish and follow the 
 instructions.

 If these instructions are not clear, just ask.

 Cheers,

 Ton



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[tw] Re: [TW5] New to TW, with some questions!

2014-11-01 Thread Ton Gerner
Hi Sylphain,

Just tested importing the RO plugin with an empty TW v5.1.4. Everything 
works as expected.

Did you save and reload your TW after importing? That is required to 
activate the plugin.

Cheers,

Ton

On Saturday, November 1, 2014 7:57:22 PM UTC+1, Sylvain Naudin wrote:



 Le samedi 1 novembre 2014 15:23:08 UTC+1, Ton Gerner a écrit :

  
 Oops. It turned out I upgraded from the wrong version so the 'special' 
 $:/plugins/tongerner/ro/image-save-button was missing. I uploaded a 
 corrected version v2.93.which shows the Save button at the bottom of the 
 Publish tiddler. I also added a link to the Publish tiddler in the 'readme' 
 of the plugin.


 OK, seen on plugin source web site. I don't know why, but if I upgrade, 
 even if I try with a fresh new tiddlywiki, import plugin seem doesn't 
 import tiddler dependence

- * $:/plugins/tongerner/ro/icon *
- * $:/plugins/tongerner/ro/image-save-button * 
- * $:/plugins/tongerner/ro/menu-button * 
- * $:/plugins/tongerner/ro/publish * 
- * $:/plugins/tongerner/ro/readme * 

 They are all empty :/ I I manually copy content, but don't understand why 
 it fail to install (run 5.1.4 with Firefox 33.0.2)
  

 Even the Sidebar button - although made invisible -

  
 About sidebar button, I don't have anymore the chekbox, strange..

 (well I have test successfully the save button by the way !)


 https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-I53rFe9eEnw/VFUsaoPw85I/Z6c/P5sYEsqSB_k/s1600/sidebar-checkbox.png


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[tw] Re: [TW5] New to TW, with some questions!

2014-11-01 Thread Sylvain Naudin
Sorry !! You right, I didn't reload after..

Sylvain


Le samedi 1 novembre 2014 21:51:44 UTC+1, Ton Gerner a écrit :

 Did you save and reload your TW after importing? That is required to 
 activate the plugin.

 Cheers,

 Ton



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[tw] Re: [TW5] New to TW, with some questions!

2014-10-31 Thread Stephan Hradek



I have just started using TW5 and generally like it - compared to what I 
 have been using (Dokuwiki), it is much more compact and I like that it is 
 self-contained.


Welcome to the community!
 


- Is it OK to mix wiki and HTML markup? In my main project I have 
nearly 200 Dokuwiki files (which I exported as HTML also) and the thought 
of trying to manually convert all that to TW markup is daunting :-(.

 It's YOUR Wiki. So if it is okay for you, then it is okay.
 


- Is there a way to embed a small thumbnail image and link this to an 
external larger image? This seemed to be possible in TW Classic (see 
http://tiddlywiki.tiddlyspace.com/#Images), but the syntax doesn't 
seem to work in TW5.

 Should be possible. At least with html syntax. But as I don't often work 
with images, better wait for others to reply.
 


- Will there be a read-only option implemented in future versions? The 
lack of this is a major discouragement for me in using TW5 - I would like 
to be able to upload it to my website so that others can read but only I 
can edit when online. That was one feature I liked with Dokuwiki (it was 
password-protected with myself as the sole user, but it could still be 
 read 
by others). I have installed the plugin from 
http://tw5readonly.tiddlyspot.com/, but am not clear on how to 
implement it.

 If you put your wiki on (e.g.) tiddlyspot, you have it password protected. 
Only you can change. Everyone else can edit, but cannot save the changes. 
To be honest: I really like that, as it offers the possibility for me to 
try and change things in other's tiddlywikis which is very helpful when 
helping them in fixing stuff.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] New to TW, with some questions!

2014-10-31 Thread Suzanne McHale
Thanks for replying!

HTML: oh good, that will save me a lot of work!

Images: I'll try with HTML syntax and see how that goes.

I have an account on Tiddlyspot, and am getting that error 
(Error:NS_ERROR_DOM_BAD_URI: 
Access to restricted URI denied) when saving on my local copy as described 
in http://tiddlywiki.com/#Saving%20on%20TiddlySpot, so I guess I will have 
to install Chrome :-/ Otherwise I have managed to import my local one at 
least!

On Friday, October 31, 2014 6:29:57 PM UTC+11, Stephan Hradek wrote:




 I have just started using TW5 and generally like it - compared to what I 
 have been using (Dokuwiki), it is much more compact and I like that it is 
 self-contained.


 Welcome to the community!
  


- Is it OK to mix wiki and HTML markup? In my main project I have 
nearly 200 Dokuwiki files (which I exported as HTML also) and the thought 
of trying to manually convert all that to TW markup is daunting :-(.

 It's YOUR Wiki. So if it is okay for you, then it is okay.
  


- Is there a way to embed a small thumbnail image and link this to an 
external larger image? This seemed to be possible in TW Classic (see 
http://tiddlywiki.tiddlyspace.com/#Images), but the syntax doesn't 
seem to work in TW5.

 Should be possible. At least with html syntax. But as I don't often work 
 with images, better wait for others to reply.
  


- Will there be a read-only option implemented in future versions? 
The lack of this is a major discouragement for me in using TW5 - I would 
like to be able to upload it to my website so that others can read but 
 only 
I can edit when online. That was one feature I liked with Dokuwiki (it 
 was 
password-protected with myself as the sole user, but it could still be 
 read 
by others). I have installed the plugin from 
http://tw5readonly.tiddlyspot.com/, but am not clear on how to 
implement it.

 If you put your wiki on (e.g.) tiddlyspot, you have it password 
 protected. Only you can change. Everyone else can edit, but cannot save the 
 changes. To be honest: I really like that, as it offers the possibility for 
 me to try and change things in other's tiddlywikis which is very helpful 
 when helping them in fixing stuff.



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[tw] Re: [TW5] New to TW, with some questions!

2014-10-31 Thread Ton Gerner
Hi Suzanne,

Yes for TiddlySpot you need to use Chrome for the *first* upload.

For the Readonly plugin:
After installing, open $:/plugins/tongerner/ro/publish and follow the 
instructions.

If these instructions are not clear, just ask.

Cheers,

Ton

On Friday, October 31, 2014 9:04:46 AM UTC+1, Suzanne McHale wrote:

 Thanks for replying!

 HTML: oh good, that will save me a lot of work!

 Images: I'll try with HTML syntax and see how that goes.

 I have an account on Tiddlyspot, and am getting that error 
 (Error:NS_ERROR_DOM_BAD_URI: 
 Access to restricted URI denied) when saving on my local copy as 
 described in http://tiddlywiki.com/#Saving%20on%20TiddlySpot, so I guess 
 I will have to install Chrome :-/ Otherwise I have managed to import my 
 local one at least!

 On Friday, October 31, 2014 6:29:57 PM UTC+11, Stephan Hradek wrote:




 I have just started using TW5 and generally like it - compared to what I 
 have been using (Dokuwiki), it is much more compact and I like that it is 
 self-contained.


 Welcome to the community!
  


- Is it OK to mix wiki and HTML markup? In my main project I have 
nearly 200 Dokuwiki files (which I exported as HTML also) and the 
 thought 
of trying to manually convert all that to TW markup is daunting :-(.

 It's YOUR Wiki. So if it is okay for you, then it is okay.
  


- Is there a way to embed a small thumbnail image and link this to 
an external larger image? This seemed to be possible in TW Classic (see 
http://tiddlywiki.tiddlyspace.com/#Images), but the syntax doesn't 
seem to work in TW5.

 Should be possible. At least with html syntax. But as I don't often work 
 with images, better wait for others to reply.
  


- Will there be a read-only option implemented in future versions? 
The lack of this is a major discouragement for me in using TW5 - I would 
like to be able to upload it to my website so that others can read but 
 only 
I can edit when online. That was one feature I liked with Dokuwiki (it 
 was 
password-protected with myself as the sole user, but it could still be 
 read 
by others). I have installed the plugin from 
http://tw5readonly.tiddlyspot.com/, but am not clear on how to 
implement it.

 If you put your wiki on (e.g.) tiddlyspot, you have it password 
 protected. Only you can change. Everyone else can edit, but cannot save the 
 changes. To be honest: I really like that, as it offers the possibility for 
 me to try and change things in other's tiddlywikis which is very helpful 
 when helping them in fixing stuff.



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