Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] TiddlyMap: visualise imported data

2015-07-24 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Thank you very much Felix! Any chance to include them as individual files in 
the github repo? 

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] TiddlyMap: visualise imported data

2015-07-24 Thread Felix Küppers

 Thank you very much Felix! 

No problemo

 Any chance to include them as individual files in the github repo? 

Hmm, yes, I could do that. I could also add an option that
enables/disables the search (disabled per default with a warning that it
is not good and still experimental).

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] TiddlyMap: visualise imported data

2015-07-23 Thread Felix Küppers
Hi Uwe

 My intention is to import a programmatically created JSON file
 describing the object relationships in a BI environment, so uniqueness
 is granted.

Thanks for sharing the intention with me.

 Hopefully, since I still have yet to write that program :-) I'm very
 anxious about how TiddlyMap will handle those hundreds of nodes.

Well, if you visualize a lot of data in a single, TiddlyMap might crash
or become slow :D, you may need to do some adjustments, but we can talk
about that when it is necessary.

Generally speaking, if graphs are large and also highly connected,
everything is too twisted and complex to have a good overview (unless
your graph has a snowflake structure).

Anyhow, this is just my personal experience, I would be curious how
things work out for you. So in case you can share the result or the
experience, please do so here or on GitHub.

 Speaking of mass node display: is there a way to assign nodes to
 groups? It would be nice to see related nodes clustered in a way. In
 my genealogy example, I could think of relatives grouped by country :-)

Yes, vis.js supports clustering but I did not manage to implement this
for TiddlyMap yet. It's on my agenda but it might take a while.

-Felix

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] TiddlyMap: visualise imported data

2015-07-23 Thread Felix Küppers
Hi Danielo,

just insert these two tiddlers and you'll have the search again.

-Felix

On 07/23/2015 09:40 AM, Danielo Rodríguez wrote:


 El miércoles, 22 de julio de 2015, 17:32:44 (UTC+2), UBi escribió:

 Thank you for your kind comments.

 My intention is to import a programmatically created JSON file
 describing the object relationships in a BI environment, so
 uniqueness is granted. Hopefully, since I still have yet to write
 that program :-) I'm very anxious about how TiddlyMap will handle
 those hundreds of nodes.

 Speaking of mass node display: is there a way to assign nodes to
 groups? It would be nice to see related nodes clustered in a way.
 In my genealogy example, I could think of relatives grouped by
 country :-)

 Thanks again,
 Uwe


 There was also a search feature that have been removed. I miss it a
 lot for some scenarios. 
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] TiddlyMap: visualise imported data

2015-07-23 Thread Felix Küppers
 Hi Danielo,

just insert these two tiddlers and you'll have the search again.

-Felix

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Description: Binary data


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Description: Binary data


Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] TiddlyMap: visualise imported data

2015-07-23 Thread Danielo Rodríguez


El miércoles, 22 de julio de 2015, 17:32:44 (UTC+2), UBi escribió:

 Thank you for your kind comments.

 My intention is to import a programmatically created JSON file describing 
 the object relationships in a BI environment, so uniqueness is granted. 
 Hopefully, since I still have yet to write that program :-) I'm very 
 anxious about how TiddlyMap will handle those hundreds of nodes.

 Speaking of mass node display: is there a way to assign nodes to groups? 
 It would be nice to see related nodes clustered in a way. In my genealogy 
 example, I could think of relatives grouped by country :-)

 Thanks again,
 Uwe


There was also a search feature that have been removed. I miss it a lot 
for some scenarios. 

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] TiddlyMap: visualise imported data

2015-07-22 Thread UBi
Thank you for your kind comments.

My intention is to import a programmatically created JSON file describing 
the object relationships in a BI environment, so uniqueness is granted. 
Hopefully, since I still have yet to write that program :-) I'm very 
anxious about how TiddlyMap will handle those hundreds of nodes.

Speaking of mass node display: is there a way to assign nodes to groups? It 
would be nice to see related nodes clustered in a way. In my genealogy 
example, I could think of relatives grouped by country :-)

Thanks again,
Uwe


Am Mittwoch, 22. Juli 2015 17:02:19 UTC+2 schrieb Felix Küppers:


  A small, working genealogy example :-) 

 Now that is a highly connected graph! I like that all Names start with 
 T :) 

  In my use case, edge types are known in advance, so the simple way 
  suffices. 

 Glad you also figured out how to include the edge-types in your json! 

  Phew! No UUID mess :-) 

 To be honest, you are not forced to use UUID when using the advanced 
 tiddlymap edge-format. The only criterion is that you ensure edge and 
 node ids are and will be unique. 

 Just be aware of the fact that when using magic edge-types a title 
 change will result in broken connections when any tiddlers were linked 
 to this tiddler. 

 -Felix 



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[tw] Re: [TW5] TiddlyMap: visualise imported data

2015-07-22 Thread Felix Küppers
Hi Uwe,

I discovered TiddlyMap recently. Great piece of work, thank you, Felix!


Thanks :)
 

 But what if I wand to import Tiddler relations like uses or related to?
 How would I have to write my JSON file?


To answer your question: there are two possibilites for that:

*1) The simple way: *Use magic edge-type namespaces

In the docs section, have a look at Magic Edge-Type Namespaces. 
http://tiddlymap.org/#Magic%20Edge-Type%20Namespaces

You need to go to the edge-type manager and create the edge-types first!
Then you can enter tiddler titles into custom fields to have them displayed 
as edges in graphs.
Make sure you read about the drawbacks of this technique in the docs 
article above!

*2) The advanced way: *Create a tmap.edges field for edges in each 
tiddler that holds outgoing edges.

In the docs section, have a look at Storage of Edges 
(http://tiddlymap.org/#Storage%20of%20Edges).
Just export a tiddler as .tid file after you created some outgoing edges 
and you'll see how the tiddlymap edges are stored in JSON format.

The same way you could do it if you don't want to use the gui...

Maybe have a look at this github discussion How to link tiddlers 
progragmatically (https://github.com/felixhayashi/TW5-TiddlyMap/issues/141)

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-Felix

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[tw] Re: [TW5] TiddlyMap: visualise imported data

2015-07-22 Thread UBi
Bittesehr:

[
{ title: 
$:/plugins/felixhayashi/tiddlymap/graph/edgeTypes/tw-list:child-of },
{ title: 
$:/plugins/felixhayashi/tiddlymap/graph/edgeTypes/tw-list:sibling-of },
{ title: 
$:/plugins/felixhayashi/tiddlymap/graph/edgeTypes/tw-list:parent-of },
{ title: 
$:/plugins/felixhayashi/tiddlymap/graph/edgeTypes/tw-list:married-with },
{
title: Tom,
married-with: Tina,
parent-of: Timmy Tamara,
tags: Family
},
{
title: Tina,
married-with: Tom,
parent-of: Timmy Tamara,
tags: Family
},
{
title: Timmy,
child-of: Tom Tina,
sibling-of: Tamara,
tags: Family
},
{
title: Tamara,
child-of: Tom Tina,
sibling-of: Timmy,
tags: Family
}
]


A small, working genealogy example :-)

In my use case, edge types are known in advance, so the simple way 
suffices. Phew! No UUID mess :-)

Thanks again!

Uwe

Am Mittwoch, 22. Juli 2015 14:42:17 UTC+2 schrieb PMario:

 On Wednesday, July 22, 2015 at 1:41:05 PM UTC+2, Felix Küppers wrote:

 Hope this helps


 An example JSON, that could be drag and drop imported imo would help a lot 
 ;)

 -mario


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[tw] Re: [TW5] TiddlyMap: visualise imported data

2015-07-22 Thread PMario
On Wednesday, July 22, 2015 at 1:41:05 PM UTC+2, Felix Küppers wrote:

 Hope this helps


An example JSON, that could be drag and drop imported imo would help a lot 
;)

-mario

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] TiddlyMap: visualise imported data

2015-07-22 Thread Felix Küppers

 A small, working genealogy example :-)

Now that is a highly connected graph! I like that all Names start with
T :)

 In my use case, edge types are known in advance, so the simple way
 suffices.

Glad you also figured out how to include the edge-types in your json!

 Phew! No UUID mess :-)

To be honest, you are not forced to use UUID when using the advanced
tiddlymap edge-format. The only criterion is that you ensure edge and
node ids are and will be unique.

Just be aware of the fact that when using magic edge-types a title
change will result in broken connections when any tiddlers were linked
to this tiddler.

-Felix

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