[tw] Re: [TW5] User interface for copy by value (vs reference) operations on singleton tiddlers
i have not seen the use of the word "singleton" for a very long time. it is a *beautiful* word. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/d8ed31b4-44f0-4d96-9725-2fab9a7de567%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] User interface for copy by value (vs reference) operations on singleton tiddlers
Now, THAT (the inter-window tab-to-tab drag/drop) is a thing of beauty. That works SO well with my workflow. I'm getting misty-eyed. I'm serious -- that's awesome. Thanks so much! On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 3:33:46 PM UTC-7, Thomas Elmiger wrote: > > Hi > > It is also possible to perform a search and drag a title from the search > results (the list in the popup) directly. > > As Eric noted, you can drag any LINK pointing to the tiddler you want to > copy (no visible URL needed). > > All the best! > Thomas > > (In Firefox I can drag from one tab to another tab in the same window.) > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/66c9fd57-5404-49a4-a98b-5d1100e7a177%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] User interface for copy by value (vs reference) operations on singleton tiddlers
Thanks for your time on this Eric. I saw in the TW5 intro tiddlers that newbies like me can volunteer to update the docs and initiate git pull requests. So I'll try to do that soon, and add some of your instructions, and the other clarifications in this thread. It's what lesser minions like me should do in return for the help & advice. But I'll need to get spun-up on git first, as I am from the paleological age of CVS, which I think was before the great version control extinction event. :-) On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 2:38:54 PM UTC-7, Eric Shulman wrote: > > On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 12:21:54 PM UTC-7, BJ wrote: >> >> Hi Daniel, >> you can drag tiddlers from the 'open' tab on the right hand side - just >> open the tiddler you want to copy, then drag it from the list in the 'open' >> tab to the destination tiddlywiki >> > > Step by step: > > 1) Open both the "source" TW and "target" TW in separate browser windows > 2) In the source TW, find a link to the desired tiddler (e.g., in the > sidebar, or in any other content where there is a link to the tiddler) > 3) Drag that link from the source window to the target window > 4) Move near the TOP of the target window, a green "drop here" bar will > appear > 5) Drop the link > 6) A core-generated $:/Import tiddler will appear, listing ONLY the > tiddler you dropped. > 7) Press the Import button > > Note: if you want to import a few tiddlers at once, you can drag/drop each > of them, one at a time, to the target TW. This adds them to the $:/Import > list. When you have all the tiddler you want listed, press Import once to > complete the action. > > enjoy, > -e > Eric Shulman > TiddlyTools: "Small Tools for Big Ideas" (tm) > InsideTiddlyWiki: The Missing Manuals > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/364a5e24-82cb-4fb3-980e-a1bc12535890%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] User interface for copy by value (vs reference) operations on singleton tiddlers
Thanks, BJ. Now it's clear. I was confusing "link" with URL/URI. I'm off to the races now! On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 12:21:54 PM UTC-7, BJ wrote: > > Hi Daniel, > you can drag tiddlers from the 'open' tab on the right hand side - just > open the tiddler you want to copy, then drag it from the list in the 'open' > tab to the destination tidwiki > > all the best > BJ > > On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 7:48:09 PM UTC+1, Daniel Cunningham wrote: >> >> Hi All: >> >> I hope this is not going to be an embarrassing question. But I did >> search the docs and groups/forums to no avail, so here goes... >> >> I am trying to do a copy of a single tiddler from one local TW5 file to >> another. For example, an "action item" exists in a small "to-do list" TW5 >> wiki, but perhaps now I am wanting to file & cross reference it into a >> larger "research notes" TW5 wiki, and then delete it from the "action >> items" wiki (which I want to keep as small as possible). >> >> I see from the TW5 docs that a copy operation is done by a drag & drop >> of the source URL onto the destination browser window. So I generated a >> permalink for the tiddler in the "source window", and dragged it onto the >> destination window, which kicked off the import process. >> >> The result of this is import process yields a tiddler with a URI to the >> permalink. So it's (kind of) like a "copy-by-reference". What I seek is >> more of a a "copy-by-value". So then I tried the "import" tool via the >> tool tab. Which will work to do the copy by value. But... >> >> ...For a single tiddler, it's not very user friendly. To import the one >> tiddler from the source wiki took about 120 clicks, as I had to disable all >> the tiddlers that I did not want to copy over. That's a lot of >> clickity-clicking! I did not see any "select/deselect all", which could >> have made it take only 2 or 3 clicks. >> >> So, am I missing a key user interface? It there a simpler way to import >> (or copy by value) the content (versus the URI/URL) of a single tiddler? >> >> I can see one response being: "why not just cut/paste"? As I explore >> TW5, and think about moving tiddlers from one TW5 "notebook" to another, I >> also think it's important to try to preserve tagging states, and also >> custom field states, which a simple copy/paste operation seems insufficient >> to do. >> >> If it's missing functionality, perhaps a column header with the >> aforementioned "select/deselect all/none" functionality would suffice? >> >> Details: I am operating TW5 with Firefox 50.0.2 on Linux Mint 18 (Sarah) >> XFCE (and loving it, BTW). >> >> Best regards, >> >> -- Daniel >> >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/6f3fff2d-8b99-42cf-98c0-d94078695f56%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] User interface for copy by value (vs reference) operations on singleton tiddlers
Hi It is also possible to perform a search and drag a title from the search results (the list in the popup) directly. As Eric noted, you can drag any LINK pointing to the tiddler you want to copy (no visible URL needed). All the best! Thomas (In Firefox I can drag from one tab to another tab in the same window.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/a41b0352-c9e4-42b1-8d6a-9cbd79b6d433%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] User interface for copy by value (vs reference) operations on singleton tiddlers
On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 12:21:54 PM UTC-7, BJ wrote: > > Hi Daniel, > you can drag tiddlers from the 'open' tab on the right hand side - just > open the tiddler you want to copy, then drag it from the list in the 'open' > tab to the destination tiddlywiki > Step by step: 1) Open both the "source" TW and "target" TW in separate browser windows 2) In the source TW, find a link to the desired tiddler (e.g., in the sidebar, or in any other content where there is a link to the tiddler) 3) Drag that link from the source window to the target window 4) Move near the TOP of the target window, a green "drop here" bar will appear 5) Drop the link 6) A core-generated $:/Import tiddler will appear, listing ONLY the tiddler you dropped. 7) Press the Import button Note: if you want to import a few tiddlers at once, you can drag/drop each of them, one at a time, to the target TW. This adds them to the $:/Import list. When you have all the tiddler you want listed, press Import once to complete the action. enjoy, -e Eric Shulman TiddlyTools: "Small Tools for Big Ideas" (tm) InsideTiddlyWiki: The Missing Manuals -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/efd99656-3fec-4d13-bfad-a5dfe3ee9cd7%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [TW5] User interface for copy by value (vs reference) operations on singleton tiddlers
Hi Daniel, you can drag tiddlers from the 'open' tab on the right hand side - just open the tiddler you want to copy, then drag it from the list in the 'open' tab to the destination tidwiki all the best BJ On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 7:48:09 PM UTC+1, Daniel Cunningham wrote: > > Hi All: > > I hope this is not going to be an embarrassing question. But I did search > the docs and groups/forums to no avail, so here goes... > > I am trying to do a copy of a single tiddler from one local TW5 file to > another. For example, an "action item" exists in a small "to-do list" TW5 > wiki, but perhaps now I am wanting to file & cross reference it into a > larger "research notes" TW5 wiki, and then delete it from the "action > items" wiki (which I want to keep as small as possible). > > I see from the TW5 docs that a copy operation is done by a drag & drop of > the source URL onto the destination browser window. So I generated a > permalink for the tiddler in the "source window", and dragged it onto the > destination window, which kicked off the import process. > > The result of this is import process yields a tiddler with a URI to the > permalink. So it's (kind of) like a "copy-by-reference". What I seek is > more of a a "copy-by-value". So then I tried the "import" tool via the > tool tab. Which will work to do the copy by value. But... > > ...For a single tiddler, it's not very user friendly. To import the one > tiddler from the source wiki took about 120 clicks, as I had to disable all > the tiddlers that I did not want to copy over. That's a lot of > clickity-clicking! I did not see any "select/deselect all", which could > have made it take only 2 or 3 clicks. > > So, am I missing a key user interface? It there a simpler way to import > (or copy by value) the content (versus the URI/URL) of a single tiddler? > > I can see one response being: "why not just cut/paste"? As I explore TW5, > and think about moving tiddlers from one TW5 "notebook" to another, I also > think it's important to try to preserve tagging states, and also custom > field states, which a simple copy/paste operation seems insufficient to > do. > > If it's missing functionality, perhaps a column header with the > aforementioned "select/deselect all/none" functionality would suffice? > > Details: I am operating TW5 with Firefox 50.0.2 on Linux Mint 18 (Sarah) > XFCE (and loving it, BTW). > > Best regards, > > -- Daniel > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/e1438af3-6d1c-4fc1-ad9a-78895e82de4b%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
