Re: [tw] Re: Anyway to improve the speed of TW5?

2014-04-07 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Ok, si it is already implemented.
This is weird because I'm experiencing the opossite. Onkeyupdate seems to 
be set to no by default.
I'll try it again. Is that documentation extracted from your TW? I don't 
remember it.

El lunes, 7 de abril de 2014 07:39:19 UTC+2, BJ escribió:


 sorry, I was using my phone and sometime the buttons dont show a click 
 when you press them!
 If you look at the edit template you can see that my plugin uses a 
 parameter to switch between normal where onkeyupdate is yes (which means 
 the editor saves the text on each key press)  and to the new mode where it 
 only saves when you stop editing. In preview you need to update on each key 
 press to see what your editing will look like. Also I left the search in 
 normal mode as general I expect results without moving the curser out of 
 the edit box.

 BJ
 On Sunday, April 6, 2014 10:12:33 PM UTC+2, Danielo Rodríguez wrote:

 That is the present or was already done? Why did you paste it three 
 times? 



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Re: [tw] Re: Anyway to improve the speed of TW5?

2014-04-07 Thread BJ
by norml i ment unenhance no is the default

On Monday, April 7, 2014 1:55:37 PM UTC+7, Danielo Rodríguez wrote:

 Ok, si it is already implemented.
 This is weird because I'm experiencing the opossite. Onkeyupdate seems to 
 be set to no by default.
 I'll try it again. Is that documentation extracted from your TW? I don't 
 remember it.

 El lunes, 7 de abril de 2014 07:39:19 UTC+2, BJ escribió:


 sorry, I was using my phone and sometime the buttons dont show a click 
 when you press them!
 If you look at the edit template you can see that my plugin uses a 
 parameter to switch between normal where onkeyupdate is yes (which means 
 the editor saves the text on each key press)  and to the new mode where it 
 only saves when you stop editing. In preview you need to update on each key 
 press to see what your editing will look like. Also I left the search in 
 normal mode as general I expect results without moving the curser out of 
 the edit box.

 BJ
 On Sunday, April 6, 2014 10:12:33 PM UTC+2, Danielo Rodríguez wrote:

 That is the present or was already done? Why did you paste it three 
 times? 



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Re: [tw] Re: Anyway to improve the speed of TW5?

2014-04-06 Thread BJ
Modification to the edit, and edit-text widget. Added option onkeyupdate 
with values yes, no that set the update event to each key press or once 
the user move off the entry (yes is the default). Also modified the 'body' 
template to select onkeyupdate only in preview mode.Modification to the 
edit, and edit-text widget. Added option onkeyupdate with values yes, 
no that set the update event to each key press or once the user move off 
the entry (yes is the default). Also modified the 'body' template to select 
onkeyupdate only in preview mode.Modification to the edit, and edit-text 
widget. Added option onkeyupdate with values yes, no that set the 
update event to each key press or once the user move off the entry (yes is 
the default). Also modified the 'body' template to select onkeyupdate only 
in preview mode.

On Saturday, April 5, 2014 9:42:50 PM UTC+7, Danielo Rodríguez wrote:

 Hello BJ your plugin allows some powerful options such editing a Tiddler's 
 own fields or editing tiddler titles. However there are other related 
 problems like the search boxes and the preview panel. Maybe you should 
 include an optional parameter instead of just overwriting the original edit 
 plugin. 

 Regards 


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Re: [tw] Re: Anyway to improve the speed of TW5?

2014-04-06 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
That is the present or was already done? Why did you paste it three times? 

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Re: [tw] Re: Anyway to improve the speed of TW5?

2014-04-06 Thread BJ

sorry, I was using my phone and sometime the buttons dont show a click when 
you press them!
If you look at the edit template you can see that my plugin uses a 
parameter to switch between normal where onkeyupdate is yes (which means 
the editor saves the text on each key press)  and to the new mode where it 
only saves when you stop editing. In preview you need to update on each key 
press to see what your editing will look like. Also I left the search in 
normal mode as general I expect results without moving the curser out of 
the edit box.

BJ
On Sunday, April 6, 2014 10:12:33 PM UTC+2, Danielo Rodríguez wrote:

 That is the present or was already done? Why did you paste it three times? 

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Re: [tw] Re: Anyway to improve the speed of TW5?

2014-04-05 Thread BJ
I only issue is that It is only guaranteed to work with 5.08, as 
tiddlywiki5 is constantly changing at the moment. Having said that I will 
update the plugin if necessary with any new release. (as I need to use it 
myself) .

On Saturday, April 5, 2014 2:10:56 AM UTC+5:30, Danielo Rodríguez wrote:

 Thank you very much!

 Im currently testing your editBoost plugin.
 Is there any related issue with non-node implementations? Is it safe to 
 use with a local copy?

 thanks!


 El viernes, 4 de abril de 2014 14:03:48 UTC+2, BJ escribió:

 http://bjhacks.tiddlyspot.com 

 On 4/4/14, Danielo Rodríguez rdan...@gmail.com wrote: 
  Hi BJ, your link is not working. Could you revise it? I would love to 
 try 
  your hacks. 
  
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Re: [tw] Re: Anyway to improve the speed of TW5?

2014-04-05 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Hello BJ your plugin allows some powerful options such editing a Tiddler's own 
fields or editing tiddler titles. However there are other related problems like 
the search boxes and the preview panel. Maybe you should include an optional 
parameter instead of just overwriting the original edit plugin. 

Regards 

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Re: [tw] Re: Anyway to improve the speed of TW5?

2014-04-04 Thread Jeremy Ruston
 One question, would it be possible to temporary disable the Show Preview
 feature in the New Tiddler screen?  I think the refresh is for the
 instant preview feature right?


Well, the refresh cycle is how all UI updates are handled, and it's the
trigger for syncing to the server. As noted above, there is definitely an
opportunity to avoid doing it on every keypress, as well as opportunities
to optimise the performance of the refresh cycle itself.

Best wishes

Jeremy





 Regards,
 Jim


 On Friday, 4 April 2014 01:08:00 UTC+8, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 Hi Jimmy

 There are indeed performance issues with TW5 that I am addressing at the
 moment.

 The underlying issue is that the refresh mechanism is a bit suboptimal
 in the way that it processes filters, to the extent that filter processing
 can comprise 80% of the refresh cycle time.

 BJ's plugin works by deferring the expensive refresh cycle so that it
 doesn't occur on every keypress. Adding a variant of that mechanism is the
 get out of jail card for these performance issues: we know from BJ's work
 that it is possible to avoid running the refresh cycle on every keypress.


 Best wishes

 Jeremy.




 On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Jimmy Liew jimmy@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 I really appreciated for all the prompt response.   This google group is
 cool. :)
 PMario, any idea when is the upcoming release for TW5?


 On Thursday, 3 April 2014 11:55:25 UTC+8, Mal wrote:

 You might find this 
 discussionhttps://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/tiddlywiki/slow$20text$20entry/tiddlywiki/gnpnuGWofCc/TRCoXFuKG1kJuseful.

 It might be a good idea to try to make sure you don't have a long list
 of tiddlers displayed in the sidebar.  Certain selections on the More tab
 seem to cause some of the delays during refresh.  Selecting the Open tab
 might be a good option.

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[tw] Re: Anyway to improve the speed of TW5?

2014-04-04 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Hi BJ, your link is not working. Could you revise it? I would love to try your 
hacks. 

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Re: [tw] Re: Anyway to improve the speed of TW5?

2014-04-04 Thread jeff wilki
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Re: [tw] Re: Anyway to improve the speed of TW5?

2014-04-04 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Thank you very much!

Im currently testing your editBoost plugin.
Is there any related issue with non-node implementations? Is it safe to use 
with a local copy?

thanks!


El viernes, 4 de abril de 2014 14:03:48 UTC+2, BJ escribió:

 http://bjhacks.tiddlyspot.com 

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[tw] Re: Anyway to improve the speed of TW5?

2014-04-03 Thread BJ
Hi Guys,
The problem with editing speed has yet to be addressed, if it really is too 
slow on your machines then you can try the 'editboost' plugin here:
http://bjhacks.tiddlyspot.com/C
Its only a temporary hack which cannot be used when running tw5 from node 
(the bug causing this has been fix so may it will work with node in the 
near future).

cheers 

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[tw] Re: Anyway to improve the speed of TW5?

2014-04-03 Thread BJ
Hi Guys,
The problem with editing speed has yet to be addressed, if it really is too 
slow on your machines then you can try the 'editboost' plugin here:
http://bjhacks.tiddlyspot.com/ http://bjhacks.tiddlyspot.com/C
Its only a temporary hack which cannot be used when running tw5 from node 
(the bug causing this has been fix so may it will work with node in the 
near future).

cheers 

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[tw] Re: Anyway to improve the speed of TW5?

2014-04-03 Thread PMario
On Thursday, April 3, 2014 4:28:07 AM UTC+2, Jimmy Liew wrote:

 Does any scripts running behind it when we typing or creating a new 
 tiddler?


As BJ pointed out, if your right sidebar contains a short list, the 
update will be faster. ... TW5 refreshes the whole display with every 
keystroke. So the whole sidebar will be handled too. ... 

For the upcoming release, Jeremy added some performance measurement 
features. ... So I think he is already dealing with the issue. I also hope 
he finds something :)

have fun!
-mario

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Re: [tw] Re: Anyway to improve the speed of TW5?

2014-04-03 Thread Jimmy Liew
I really appreciated for all the prompt response.   This google group is
cool. :)
PMario, any idea when is the upcoming release for TW5?

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On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 5:33 PM, PMario pmari...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thursday, April 3, 2014 4:28:07 AM UTC+2, Jimmy Liew wrote:

 Does any scripts running behind it when we typing or creating a new
 tiddler?


 As BJ pointed out, if your right sidebar contains a short list, the
 update will be faster. ... TW5 refreshes the whole display with every
 keystroke. So the whole sidebar will be handled too. ...

 For the upcoming release, Jeremy added some performance measurement
 features. ... So I think he is already dealing with the issue. I also hope
 he finds something :)

 have fun!
 -mario

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[tw] Re: Anyway to improve the speed of TW5?

2014-04-03 Thread Matabele
Hi

This is also evident if text is being edited in larger tiddlers, or if more 
than one tiddler is open for editing at any one time. When moving content 
across from TWC, I had to break larger tiddlers into multiple sections (a 
couple of screens each) to get adequate performance.

regards

On Thursday, April 3, 2014 4:28:07 AM UTC+2, Jimmy Liew wrote:

 Hi All,
 TW5 is slow, some time lagging, when typing and creating new tiddler.  
 Comparing with TWC, it is fast and the response is fantastic.

 Does any scripts running behind it when we typing or creating a new 
 tiddler?

 Is there anyway to improve it?

 Kindly advise.


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[tw] Re: Anyway to improve the speed of TW5?

2014-04-03 Thread Jimmy Liew
Hi all,
I really appreciated for all the prompt response.   This google group is 
cool. :)
PMario, any idea when is the upcoming release for TW5?


On Thursday, 3 April 2014 11:55:25 UTC+8, Mal wrote:

 You might find this 
 discussionhttps://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/tiddlywiki/slow$20text$20entry/tiddlywiki/gnpnuGWofCc/TRCoXFuKG1kJuseful.

 It might be a good idea to try to make sure you don't have a long list of 
 tiddlers displayed in the sidebar.  Certain selections on the More tab 
 seem to cause some of the delays during refresh.  Selecting the Open tab 
 might be a good option.

 Mal






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Re: [tw] Re: Anyway to improve the speed of TW5?

2014-04-03 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Jimmy

There are indeed performance issues with TW5 that I am addressing at the
moment.

The underlying issue is that the refresh mechanism is a bit suboptimal in
the way that it processes filters, to the extent that filter processing can
comprise 80% of the refresh cycle time.

BJ's plugin works by deferring the expensive refresh cycle so that it
doesn't occur on every keypress. Adding a variant of that mechanism is the
get out of jail card for these performance issues: we know from BJ's work
that it is possible to avoid running the refresh cycle on every keypress.


Best wishes

Jeremy.




On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Jimmy Liew jimmy.lie...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 I really appreciated for all the prompt response.   This google group is
 cool. :)
 PMario, any idea when is the upcoming release for TW5?


 On Thursday, 3 April 2014 11:55:25 UTC+8, Mal wrote:

 You might find this 
 discussionhttps://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/tiddlywiki/slow$20text$20entry/tiddlywiki/gnpnuGWofCc/TRCoXFuKG1kJuseful.

 It might be a good idea to try to make sure you don't have a long list of
 tiddlers displayed in the sidebar.  Certain selections on the More tab
 seem to cause some of the delays during refresh.  Selecting the Open tab
 might be a good option.

 Mal




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Re: [tw] Re: Anyway to improve the speed of TW5?

2014-04-03 Thread Jimmy Liew
Thanks Jeremy,

One question, would it be possible to temporary disable the Show Preview 
feature in the New Tiddler screen?  I think the refresh is for the 
instant preview feature right?


Regards,
Jim

On Friday, 4 April 2014 01:08:00 UTC+8, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 Hi Jimmy

 There are indeed performance issues with TW5 that I am addressing at the 
 moment.

 The underlying issue is that the refresh mechanism is a bit suboptimal 
 in the way that it processes filters, to the extent that filter processing 
 can comprise 80% of the refresh cycle time.

 BJ's plugin works by deferring the expensive refresh cycle so that it 
 doesn't occur on every keypress. Adding a variant of that mechanism is the 
 get out of jail card for these performance issues: we know from BJ's work 
 that it is possible to avoid running the refresh cycle on every keypress.


 Best wishes

 Jeremy.




 On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Jimmy Liew jimmy@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 Hi all,
 I really appreciated for all the prompt response.   This google group is 
 cool. :)
 PMario, any idea when is the upcoming release for TW5?


 On Thursday, 3 April 2014 11:55:25 UTC+8, Mal wrote:

 You might find this 
 discussionhttps://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/tiddlywiki/slow$20text$20entry/tiddlywiki/gnpnuGWofCc/TRCoXFuKG1kJuseful.

 It might be a good idea to try to make sure you don't have a long list 
 of tiddlers displayed in the sidebar.  Certain selections on the More tab 
 seem to cause some of the delays during refresh.  Selecting the Open tab 
 might be a good option.

 Mal




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[tw] Re: Anyway to improve the speed of TW5?

2014-04-02 Thread Mark S.


On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 6:28:07 PM UTC-8, Jimmy Liew wrote:

 Hi All,
 TW5 is slow, some time lagging, when typing and creating new tiddler.  
 Comparing with TWC, it is fast and the response is fantastic.

 Does any scripts running behind it when we typing or creating a new 
 tiddler?

 Is there anyway to improve it?

 Kindly advise.


Just chipping in to say I notice it too. I wonder what is happening in the 
background to slow down a text box? It will be interesting to find out. My 
guess is that the developers have very fast machines and so don't sense the 
lag as much.

You can use a Firefox add-on like It's all text to edit the field in a 
separate editor. 

Mark  

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[tw] Re: Anyway to improve the speed of TW5?

2014-04-02 Thread Mal
You might find this 
discussionhttps://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/tiddlywiki/slow$20text$20entry/tiddlywiki/gnpnuGWofCc/TRCoXFuKG1kJuseful.

It might be a good idea to try to make sure you don't have a long list of 
tiddlers displayed in the sidebar.  Certain selections on the More tab 
seem to cause some of the delays during refresh.  Selecting the Open tab 
might be a good option.

Mal




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