[tw] Re: Encrypting my TiddlyWiki
Sorry, been away from my computer for a few days. .. if you have vault installed, go to the plugin (under systemConfig tag) should look like this (http://visualtw.ouvaton.org/demo/ EncryptedVaultPlugin.html#EncryptedVaultPlugin) The demo version is locked (enter the password demo) under the Usage heading After unlocking should see a macro to set the password I recommend putting the unlock macro in a easy to reach place Hope that helps, Mike On Nov 12, 3:50 pm, Lyall lyall.pea...@gmail.com wrote: Of course, the lines don't wrap like shown in the news post. On Nov 13, 7:46 am, Lyall lyall.pea...@gmail.com wrote: ToolbarCommands, not toolbarCommands. Here is what mine contains... |~ViewToolbar|collapseTiddler collapseOthers closeTiddler closeOthers decryptThis +editTiddler intelliTagsEdit fields syncing permalink references jump| |~EditToolbar|+saveTiddler -cancelTiddler deleteTiddler| ...Lyall On Nov 13, 4:38 am, Alex tacobellfr...@gmail.com wrote: I have tired adding the decruptThis button to my toolbarCommands, but it still will not show up. On Nov 10, 4:55 pm, Mark S. throa...@yahoo.com wrote: With the TEP, if prior plugins have altered your set up, you may have to add the decryptThis button manually to the ToolbarCommands tiddler, like: |~ViewToolbar|newHere decryptThis closeTiddler +editTiddler deleteTiddler fields syncing permalink references jump| Of course, your ViewToolbar line may vary from mine, so use discretion. On Nov 10, 12:15 pm, Alex tacobellfr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, I really need on encrypting my TiddlyWiki. I have tried using two different plugins, EncryptedVaultPlugin and the TiddlerEncryptionPlugin. Using the TiddlerEcryptionPlugin, i got it to somewhat work, but I had to add a DecryptAll button in the sidebar on the right. I want a way to only be prompted for one prompt at a time, and not all of them. I want to set up a username like system with my prompts, but I can't seem to get it configured the way I want. I also tried using the EncryptedVaultPlugin, and I got it to load, but I cannot find out how to set a password and how to have multiple passwords on my Tiddly. If anyone is knowledgeable with either of these plugins, please reply and I can explain more of the specific difficulties I'm having. Thanks ~Alex --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Encrypting my TiddlyWiki
. . . also if you are running a custom theme (like mptw) you will need to look there for the ToolbarCommands when using TiddlerEncryption On Nov 13, 2:57 pm, Mike eris...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry, been away from my computer for a few days. .. if you have vault installed, go to the plugin (under systemConfig tag) should look like this (http://visualtw.ouvaton.org/demo/ EncryptedVaultPlugin.html#EncryptedVaultPlugin) The demo version is locked (enter the password demo) under the Usage heading After unlocking should see a macro to set the password I recommend putting the unlock macro in a easy to reach place Hope that helps, Mike On Nov 12, 3:50 pm, Lyall lyall.pea...@gmail.com wrote: Of course, the lines don't wrap like shown in the news post. On Nov 13, 7:46 am, Lyall lyall.pea...@gmail.com wrote: ToolbarCommands, not toolbarCommands. Here is what mine contains... |~ViewToolbar|collapseTiddler collapseOthers closeTiddler closeOthers decryptThis +editTiddler intelliTagsEdit fields syncing permalink references jump| |~EditToolbar|+saveTiddler -cancelTiddler deleteTiddler| ...Lyall On Nov 13, 4:38 am, Alex tacobellfr...@gmail.com wrote: I have tired adding the decruptThis button to my toolbarCommands, but it still will not show up. On Nov 10, 4:55 pm, Mark S. throa...@yahoo.com wrote: With the TEP, if prior plugins have altered your set up, you may have to add the decryptThis button manually to the ToolbarCommands tiddler, like: |~ViewToolbar|newHere decryptThis closeTiddler +editTiddler deleteTiddler fields syncing permalink references jump| Of course, your ViewToolbar line may vary from mine, so use discretion. On Nov 10, 12:15 pm, Alex tacobellfr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, I really need on encrypting my TiddlyWiki. I have tried using two different plugins, EncryptedVaultPlugin and the TiddlerEncryptionPlugin. Using the TiddlerEcryptionPlugin, i got it to somewhat work, but I had to add a DecryptAll button in the sidebar on the right. I want a way to only be prompted for one prompt at a time, and not all of them. I want to set up a username like system with my prompts, but I can't seem to get it configured the way I want. I also tried using the EncryptedVaultPlugin, and I got it to load, but I cannot find out how to set a password and how to have multiple passwords on my Tiddly. If anyone is knowledgeable with either of these plugins, please reply and I can explain more of the specific difficulties I'm having. Thanks ~Alex --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Encrypting my TiddlyWiki
ToolbarCommands, not toolbarCommands. Here is what mine contains... |~ViewToolbar|collapseTiddler collapseOthers closeTiddler closeOthers decryptThis +editTiddler intelliTagsEdit fields syncing permalink references jump| |~EditToolbar|+saveTiddler -cancelTiddler deleteTiddler| ...Lyall On Nov 13, 4:38 am, Alex tacobellfr...@gmail.com wrote: I have tired adding the decruptThis button to my toolbarCommands, but it still will not show up. On Nov 10, 4:55 pm, Mark S. throa...@yahoo.com wrote: With the TEP, if prior plugins have altered your set up, you may have to add the decryptThis button manually to the ToolbarCommands tiddler, like: |~ViewToolbar|newHere decryptThis closeTiddler +editTiddler deleteTiddler fields syncing permalink references jump| Of course, your ViewToolbar line may vary from mine, so use discretion. On Nov 10, 12:15 pm, Alex tacobellfr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, I really need on encrypting my TiddlyWiki. I have tried using two different plugins, EncryptedVaultPlugin and the TiddlerEncryptionPlugin. Using the TiddlerEcryptionPlugin, i got it to somewhat work, but I had to add a DecryptAll button in the sidebar on the right. I want a way to only be prompted for one prompt at a time, and not all of them. I want to set up a username like system with my prompts, but I can't seem to get it configured the way I want. I also tried using the EncryptedVaultPlugin, and I got it to load, but I cannot find out how to set a password and how to have multiple passwords on my Tiddly. If anyone is knowledgeable with either of these plugins, please reply and I can explain more of the specific difficulties I'm having. Thanks ~Alex --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Encrypting my TiddlyWiki
Of course, the lines don't wrap like shown in the news post. On Nov 13, 7:46 am, Lyall lyall.pea...@gmail.com wrote: ToolbarCommands, not toolbarCommands. Here is what mine contains... |~ViewToolbar|collapseTiddler collapseOthers closeTiddler closeOthers decryptThis +editTiddler intelliTagsEdit fields syncing permalink references jump| |~EditToolbar|+saveTiddler -cancelTiddler deleteTiddler| ...Lyall On Nov 13, 4:38 am, Alex tacobellfr...@gmail.com wrote: I have tired adding the decruptThis button to my toolbarCommands, but it still will not show up. On Nov 10, 4:55 pm, Mark S. throa...@yahoo.com wrote: With the TEP, if prior plugins have altered your set up, you may have to add the decryptThis button manually to the ToolbarCommands tiddler, like: |~ViewToolbar|newHere decryptThis closeTiddler +editTiddler deleteTiddler fields syncing permalink references jump| Of course, your ViewToolbar line may vary from mine, so use discretion. On Nov 10, 12:15 pm, Alex tacobellfr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, I really need on encrypting my TiddlyWiki. I have tried using two different plugins, EncryptedVaultPlugin and the TiddlerEncryptionPlugin. Using the TiddlerEcryptionPlugin, i got it to somewhat work, but I had to add a DecryptAll button in the sidebar on the right. I want a way to only be prompted for one prompt at a time, and not all of them. I want to set up a username like system with my prompts, but I can't seem to get it configured the way I want. I also tried using the EncryptedVaultPlugin, and I got it to load, but I cannot find out how to set a password and how to have multiple passwords on my Tiddly. If anyone is knowledgeable with either of these plugins, please reply and I can explain more of the specific difficulties I'm having. Thanks ~Alex --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Encrypting my TiddlyWiki
An encrypted tiddler is tagged with 'Decrypt(prompt)' A decrypted tiddler, that will be encrypted, on save, is tagged with 'Encrypt(prompt)' The process of saving the tiddlywiki looks for all tiddlers tagged Encrypt(prompt), encrypts them and changes the tag to 'Decrypt(tag)' An encrypted tiddler is loaded, as is, from the tiddlywiki (you can look at the contents), whether it is from a local file or a remote server. When a tiddler is retrieved for display from an already loaded tiddlywiki, the 'getTiddler' function has been overridden to look for the 'Decrypt(prompt)' tag. If it finds it, it decrypts the tiddler, otherwise, it does nothing and simply allows normal tiddler retrieval. If you have not entered the password for a prompt, then encrypted tiddlers will not automatically decrypt, you will need to press the 'decrypt' or 'decrypt all' buttons to enter the password. Once a password is entered, it is not normally asked for again (unless you configure it that way) - and all encrypted tiddlers will automatically decrypt, from that point on. When you hit the 'save changes' button or an auto-save happens, TiddlerEncryptionPlugin searches for any tiddlers with 'Encrypt (prompt)' in their tags - for each one, it encrypts and re-tags with 'Decrypt(prompt)'. Once all tiddlers have been checked and encrypted, the save is handled using the existing save functionality. So, the only time a tiddler is decrypted is when you display it and press the decrypt button, or you use 'decrypt all'. If a tiddler is downloaded from the net with encrypted tiddlers, the tiddlers are encrypted whilst in transit. They only ever are decrypted in your browser. If the UploadPlugin had default upload urls as configuration settings and overrode the 'save changes' method, like TiddlerEncryptionPlugin, then the 'saved tiddlywiki', as uploaded, would be encrypted, in transit, with no changes to the 'server side' - all the encryption is done on the client. It is even possible, to have a 'external tiddler' plugin (I think Eric wrote one, amongst seemingly millions...), that if it overrode the getTiddler and getTiddlerText functions, then TiddlerEncryptionPlugin would even process 'external' tiddlers correctly - assuming the plugins loaded 'external tiddlers' then TiddlerEncryptionPlugin Note that if you close the tiddlywiki page or press the browser re- load button, all cached passwords are lost. Hopefully that answers your question. :-) ...Lyall On Nov 11, 12:26 pm, Amzg matiasg...@gmail.com wrote: Hoping to catch the opportunity to ask the creator himself; Mr. Pearce, do I understand this correct; A tiddler is only encrypted when it is rendered. For a TW on a remote server (such as tiddlyspot) this means that when I use my local copy, a tiddler tagged with Encrypt(something) is *not* necessarily encrypted when I send it *to* that remote server, only later when the TW is reloaded from there is it encrypted. Correct? Thank you! On Nov 11, 2:12 am, Lyall lyall.pea...@gmail.com wrote: Quoted from a gmail reply, I figure others may be interested in the answer... Firstly, as you may have gathered, a tiddler can only be encrypted with one password. You can have 2 tiddlers with a password each, or both tiddlers with the same password - all driven by the prompt - the prompt is simply a reminder for the password. However, you cannot have multiple passwords to decrypt the same tiddler. However, you could create a group of tiddlers with a prompt of 'Office Users' and spread the password to that group, and another group of tiddlers with 'Secret users' and spread the password there as well. But, you won't be able to give both Office Users and Secret users access to both groups, unless both groups know both passwords. Personally, I only encrypt the tiddlers that need encrypting, leaving the rest of the tiddlers open. After all, when encrypted, you can't search (at least, until you decrypt them all). That said, if TiddlerEncryptionPlugin is still for you, feel free to send me a sanitised version of your tiddlywiki and I can see if I can spot the problem with the menu bar. I don't need to know the passwords as I only need to be able to confirm the 'button' appears. ...Lyall On Nov 11, 7:57 am, Mike eris...@gmail.com wrote: I have tried both, I am currently using TiddlerEncryption vs EncryptedVault (had some problems with the vault, and random characters appearing inside my tiddlers in TW 2.4.2) http://visualtw.ouvaton.org/demo/EncryptedVaultPlugin.html(last update 12/07) set the password in the plugin (one password protects entire document)http://www.remotely-helpful.com/TiddlyWiki/TiddlerEncryptionPlugin.ht... (last update 10/08) set the password for a tag or group of tiddlers (one password per group) If encryption is not required you could try:http://www.tiddlytools.com/#TiddlerPasswordPlugin password via template user level
[tw] Re: Encrypting my TiddlyWiki
With the TEP, if prior plugins have altered your set up, you may have to add the decryptThis button manually to the ToolbarCommands tiddler, like: |~ViewToolbar|newHere decryptThis closeTiddler +editTiddler deleteTiddler fields syncing permalink references jump| Of course, your ViewToolbar line may vary from mine, so use discretion. On Nov 10, 12:15 pm, Alex tacobellfr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, I really need on encrypting my TiddlyWiki. I have tried using two different plugins, EncryptedVaultPlugin and the TiddlerEncryptionPlugin. Using the TiddlerEcryptionPlugin, i got it to somewhat work, but I had to add a DecryptAll button in the sidebar on the right. I want a way to only be prompted for one prompt at a time, and not all of them. I want to set up a username like system with my prompts, but I can't seem to get it configured the way I want. I also tried using the EncryptedVaultPlugin, and I got it to load, but I cannot find out how to set a password and how to have multiple passwords on my Tiddly. If anyone is knowledgeable with either of these plugins, please reply and I can explain more of the specific difficulties I'm having. Thanks ~Alex --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Encrypting my TiddlyWiki
Quoted from a gmail reply, I figure others may be interested in the answer... Firstly, as you may have gathered, a tiddler can only be encrypted with one password. You can have 2 tiddlers with a password each, or both tiddlers with the same password - all driven by the prompt - the prompt is simply a reminder for the password. However, you cannot have multiple passwords to decrypt the same tiddler. However, you could create a group of tiddlers with a prompt of 'Office Users' and spread the password to that group, and another group of tiddlers with 'Secret users' and spread the password there as well. But, you won't be able to give both Office Users and Secret users access to both groups, unless both groups know both passwords. Personally, I only encrypt the tiddlers that need encrypting, leaving the rest of the tiddlers open. After all, when encrypted, you can't search (at least, until you decrypt them all). That said, if TiddlerEncryptionPlugin is still for you, feel free to send me a sanitised version of your tiddlywiki and I can see if I can spot the problem with the menu bar. I don't need to know the passwords as I only need to be able to confirm the 'button' appears. ...Lyall On Nov 11, 7:57 am, Mike eris...@gmail.com wrote: I have tried both, I am currently using TiddlerEncryption vs EncryptedVault (had some problems with the vault, and random characters appearing inside my tiddlers in TW 2.4.2) http://visualtw.ouvaton.org/demo/EncryptedVaultPlugin.html(last update 12/07) set the password in the plugin (one password protects entire document)http://www.remotely-helpful.com/TiddlyWiki/TiddlerEncryptionPlugin.ht... (last update 10/08) set the password for a tag or group of tiddlers (one password per group) If encryption is not required you could try:http://www.tiddlytools.com/#TiddlerPasswordPlugin password via template user level controls Mike On Nov 10, 2:15 pm, Alex tacobellfr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, I really need on encrypting my TiddlyWiki. I have tried using two different plugins, EncryptedVaultPlugin and the TiddlerEncryptionPlugin. Using the TiddlerEcryptionPlugin, i got it to somewhat work, but I had to add a DecryptAll button in the sidebar on the right. I want a way to only be prompted for one prompt at a time, and not all of them. I want to set up a username like system with my prompts, but I can't seem to get it configured the way I want. I also tried using the EncryptedVaultPlugin, and I got it to load, but I cannot find out how to set a password and how to have multiple passwords on my Tiddly. If anyone is knowledgeable with either of these plugins, please reply and I can explain more of the specific difficulties I'm having. Thanks ~Alex --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Encrypting my TiddlyWiki
Hoping to catch the opportunity to ask the creator himself; Mr. Pearce, do I understand this correct; A tiddler is only encrypted when it is rendered. For a TW on a remote server (such as tiddlyspot) this means that when I use my local copy, a tiddler tagged with Encrypt(something) is *not* necessarily encrypted when I send it *to* that remote server, only later when the TW is reloaded from there is it encrypted. Correct? Thank you! On Nov 11, 2:12 am, Lyall lyall.pea...@gmail.com wrote: Quoted from a gmail reply, I figure others may be interested in the answer... Firstly, as you may have gathered, a tiddler can only be encrypted with one password. You can have 2 tiddlers with a password each, or both tiddlers with the same password - all driven by the prompt - the prompt is simply a reminder for the password. However, you cannot have multiple passwords to decrypt the same tiddler. However, you could create a group of tiddlers with a prompt of 'Office Users' and spread the password to that group, and another group of tiddlers with 'Secret users' and spread the password there as well. But, you won't be able to give both Office Users and Secret users access to both groups, unless both groups know both passwords. Personally, I only encrypt the tiddlers that need encrypting, leaving the rest of the tiddlers open. After all, when encrypted, you can't search (at least, until you decrypt them all). That said, if TiddlerEncryptionPlugin is still for you, feel free to send me a sanitised version of your tiddlywiki and I can see if I can spot the problem with the menu bar. I don't need to know the passwords as I only need to be able to confirm the 'button' appears. ...Lyall On Nov 11, 7:57 am, Mike eris...@gmail.com wrote: I have tried both, I am currently using TiddlerEncryption vs EncryptedVault (had some problems with the vault, and random characters appearing inside my tiddlers in TW 2.4.2) http://visualtw.ouvaton.org/demo/EncryptedVaultPlugin.html(last update 12/07) set the password in the plugin (one password protects entire document)http://www.remotely-helpful.com/TiddlyWiki/TiddlerEncryptionPlugin.ht... (last update 10/08) set the password for a tag or group of tiddlers (one password per group) If encryption is not required you could try:http://www.tiddlytools.com/#TiddlerPasswordPlugin password via template user level controls Mike On Nov 10, 2:15 pm, Alex tacobellfr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, I really need on encrypting my TiddlyWiki. I have tried using two different plugins, EncryptedVaultPlugin and the TiddlerEncryptionPlugin. Using the TiddlerEcryptionPlugin, i got it to somewhat work, but I had to add a DecryptAll button in the sidebar on the right. I want a way to only be prompted for one prompt at a time, and not all of them. I want to set up a username like system with my prompts, but I can't seem to get it configured the way I want. I also tried using the EncryptedVaultPlugin, and I got it to load, but I cannot find out how to set a password and how to have multiple passwords on my Tiddly. If anyone is knowledgeable with either of these plugins, please reply and I can explain more of the specific difficulties I'm having. Thanks ~Alex --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
