[tw] Re: Encryption
I think it is a testament to the original tiddlywiki design, that the Encryption plugin has survived 2 major version bumps on TiddlyWiki with no changes, and it still works. Nice to hear that you use TiddlerEncryptionPlugin FND :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Encryption
Try http://www.remotely-helpful.com/TiddlyWiki/TiddlerEncryptionPlugin.html It takes a slightly different approach, in that it encrypts individual tiddlers that are tagged for encryption, but leaves the rest unencrypted. This is not to say that you can't encrypt all tiddlers, but in my experience, only a few tiddlers contain sensitive information whilst the rest are fairly generic. You can have different passwords for different groups of tiddlers by simply setting the 'Encrypt(passwordPrompt)' tag to have a different 'passwordPrompt'. I use it (as well as wrote it) daily. You can also distribute your tiddler, knowing that public tiddlers are searchable and visible but the 'encrypted' tiddlers are not. Keep us informed if you try it and whether it suits your needs. :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Re: Encryption
Lyall, Thank you for this I guess that the amount of encrypted tiddlers varies vastly depending on the sphere of usage, and usage patterns. Are the encrypted tiddlers searchable once decrypted? Let's take the following scenario: I use one encryption group, and want to decrypt it uppon loading my tiddly wiki. Can I run one decryption command, and then freely search all the tiddlers? On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Lyall lyall.pea...@gmail.com wrote: Try http://www.remotely-helpful.com/TiddlyWiki/TiddlerEncryptionPlugin.html It takes a slightly different approach, in that it encrypts individual tiddlers that are tagged for encryption, but leaves the rest unencrypted. This is not to say that you can't encrypt all tiddlers, but in my experience, only a few tiddlers contain sensitive information whilst the rest are fairly generic. You can have different passwords for different groups of tiddlers by simply setting the 'Encrypt(passwordPrompt)' tag to have a different 'passwordPrompt'. I use it (as well as wrote it) daily. You can also distribute your tiddler, knowing that public tiddlers are searchable and visible but the 'encrypted' tiddlers are not. Keep us informed if you try it and whether it suits your needs. :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Encryption
Hi Lyall, You had a discussion with FND in the dev group some time ago. Was there some progress? -m [1] http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywikidev/browse_thread/thread/82ca070af96353e0 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Re: Encryption
And, Want to remind again my original post. Does anybody has idea about EncyptedVault plugin. Contacting the author? What can cause a difference in processing non English characters? On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 3:49 PM, PMario pmari...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Lyall, You had a discussion with FND in the dev group some time ago. Was there some progress? -m [1] http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywikidev/browse_thread/thread/82ca070af96353e0 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Re: Encryption
The title of the tiddly may be searchable, depending upon the options checked. No point in searching the content, it's encrypted! There is a macro which you can embed in your main menu, which will decrypt all tiddlers, prompting for passwords as required, if you have more than one password prompt. Encrypted tiddlers have the option of not even showing up in menus, unless you decrypt them using the decrypt all macro or load them by specific links. Unencrypted tiddlers can include encrypted tiddlers. Regarding the discussion with FND, it turned out that his plugin operated at a completely different and incompatible level to the one I wrote. Mine targets local tiddlywikis whereas his targets remotely hosted tiddlywikis using different events to decrypt/encrypt. Read the docs in the plugin. :-) Feel free to fiddle and provide feedback. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Re: Encryption
Lyall, thanks. No point in searching the content, it's encrypted! well, unless you decrypt them before searching, and then there is a point This is one of the reasons why I'm trying to get the EncryptedVault plugin working for me: It encrypts all tiddles, then when you open, it decrypts them, and than *all are searchable*. On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 12:40 AM, Lyall lyall.pea...@gmail.com wrote: The title of the tiddly may be searchable, depending upon the options checked. No point in searching the content, it's encrypted! There is a macro which you can embed in your main menu, which will decrypt all tiddlers, prompting for passwords as required, if you have more than one password prompt. Encrypted tiddlers have the option of not even showing up in menus, unless you decrypt them using the decrypt all macro or load them by specific links. Unencrypted tiddlers can include encrypted tiddlers. Regarding the discussion with FND, it turned out that his plugin operated at a completely different and incompatible level to the one I wrote. Mine targets local tiddlywikis whereas his targets remotely hosted tiddlywikis using different events to decrypt/encrypt. Read the docs in the plugin. :-) Feel free to fiddle and provide feedback. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Re: Encryption
Obviously, once the tiddlers are decrypted, they are searchable, depending on how you have tagged them. Tiddlers can be tagged as unsearchable! Read the docs in the plugin. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Encryption
FWIW, I'm still happily using TiddlerEncryptionPlugin, using EncryptionDecryptAll ... ... d to decrypt all tiddlers on keypress - so after loading the document, I simply press ALT+D to bring up the decryption dialog, enter my password, then hit ALT+F to search. This has worked well for me for years. -- F. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Encryption
Anybody has idea what can cause the problem with decrypting Hebrew (or why the collation is not transparent to the algorithm), and possibly how can this be fixed? One more piece of data: I thought that maybe a Hebrew title creates the problem. So no, an English title with Hebrew contents still leads to broken nonsense (the contents) upon decryption On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 11:19 AM, Dani Zobin danizo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi group, I'm in the process of setting my basic tool box, in order to reach a point soon when I feel safe enough to trust Tiddly with my data One must item in the toolbox is encryption. I enjoyed very much the EncryptedVaultPluginhttp://visualtw.ouvaton.org/demo/EncryptedVaultPlugin.html which is symple, and exactly what I need. Unofortunately, it fails to decrypt my Hebrew Tiddles which is a complete show stopper, taking me too seek other alternatives. I'd appreciate a response from anybody who uses encryption in practice in his Tiddly, with a reference to the plugins he uses. I'm particularly interested in the below questions: - Is this a per Twiddle approach, or for the whole document (like EncryptedVault above) - Can I search encrypted Tiddles (of course, via decrypting them somehow. This works great with the EncryptedVault approach, where you can decrypt all the wiki at once, and then use) And generally in anything you have to say about this. Anybody knows how can I contact the author of the EncryptedVault? Anybody has idea what can cause the problem with decrypting Hebrew (or why the collation is not transparent to the algorithm), and possibly how can this be fixed? Thanks Dani -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Encryption
TiddlerEncryptionPlugin 'insert's the button into the shadow tiddler of ToolbarCommands - this is done at plugin load time. It searches for '+editTiddler' and inserts before this. If there is no '+editTiddler' in the toolbar, It does not currently look to see if you have a non-shadow version. So, if you have a ToolbarCommands Tiddler, which overrides the default shadow one, it won't automatically display the 'decrypt' button. I deliberately did not go searching for non-shadow version as the user has a non-shadow version for a reason, which may include not wanting the 'decrypt' button to appear or some other customisation. Basically, if you have a non-shadow version of ToolbarCommands, you are on your own, hence, the instructions you provided, are entirely appropriate. Other problems I have experienced with the button not appearing was with a 'German' plugin, which translated the tiddlywiki to have 'German' text - which discarded the changes made by TiddlerEncryptionPlugin - also requiring a non-shadow version of ToolbarCommands. ...Lyall On Sep 12, 1:09 am, Markk S. throa...@yahoo.com wrote: On Sep 11, 5:11 am, lyallp lyall.pea...@gmail.com wrote: Otherwise, next time you display the 'encrypted' tiddler, it is garbage, until you press the 'decrypt' button, up next to the 'edit' button. Except that this button doesn't automatically appear in some TW's. Not sure what the common denominator is. It didn't appear in mine, and apparently not in Scott's either. Thus the instructions on how to insert it manually. -- Mark --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Encryption
On Sep 11, 5:11 am, lyallp lyall.pea...@gmail.com wrote: Otherwise, next time you display the 'encrypted' tiddler, it is garbage, until you press the 'decrypt' button, up next to the 'edit' button. Except that this button doesn't automatically appear in some TW's. Not sure what the common denominator is. It didn't appear in mine, and apparently not in Scott's either. Thus the instructions on how to insert it manually. -- Mark --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Encryption
I had the same problem -- for some reason the following info is not documented, or perhaps some plugin/setup overwrites the encryption install. In the ToolbarCommands tiddler, you need to add 'decryptThis'. So the ~ViewToolbar portion of that tiddler might look like this: |~ViewToolbar|newHere decryptThis closeTiddler +editTiddler deleteTiddler fields syncing permalink references jump| HTH On Sep 10, 3:21 am, Scott Freeman aikidoka.sc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi: I’m a newbie. I wonder what is the best/easiest way to encrypt pages is. I loaded the TiddlerEncryptionPlugin but couldn’t figure out how to put the button on to decrypt pages. Any suggestions on how to encrypt pages or use on the TiddlerEncryptionPlugin would be appreciated. Thanks, Scott --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
