[tw] Re: GettingStarted tiddler is zealous at startup

2014-07-09 Thread Stephan Hradek


Am Mittwoch, 9. Juli 2014 05:19:20 UTC+2 schrieb Richard Smith:

 Expected behaviour is: GettingStarted doesn't appear
 Actual behaviour is: GettingStarted appears

 Reason: The URL I'm reloading 
 (file:///Users/smith/Desktop/test9july2.html#GettingStarted:GettingStarted) 
 still contains a reference to GettingStarted as it was open when I reloaded 
 the page.

 @Jeremy: Proposal: Do not open non-existing tiddlers from permalinks. 

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Re: [tw] Re: GettingStarted tiddler is zealous at startup

2014-07-09 Thread Jeremy Ruston



 @Jeremy: Proposal: Do not open non-existing tiddlers from permalinks.


Interesting. I think there are some situations where it's useful to be able
to permalink to missing tiddlers but I'd be more concerned with
inconsistency introduced by the layering of another arbitrary behaviour.

I think the underlying issue here is that the permalink behaviour continues
to be unexpected for many users. I'm more inclined to switch off permalink
updating by default. (Incoming permalinks would still work, but the address
bar wouldn't be automatically updated during navigation).

Best wishes

Jeremy


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[tw] Re: GettingStarted tiddler is zealous at startup

2014-07-08 Thread Clément Aymé

I've just followed the GettingStarted advice: 

*Stop this message appearing by changing the default tiddlers under the 
Basics tab. *

And saved globally (note there is no tick to save $:/ControlPanel tiddler) 
using the download icon. 
But with no luck.

When I try to edit $:/DefaultTiddlers I got a dialog box that warns about 
future updates... 
So what ?

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[tw] Re: GettingStarted tiddler is zealous at startup

2014-07-08 Thread Richard Smith
I just tried to replicate this. Here is what I did.

1. Download 'empty.html' (actually called string-of-garbage.html)
2. Rename string-of-garbage to test9july2.html
3. Open in Firefox (Allow the script to run)
4. Open control panel and delete GettingStarted
5. Close control panel and click global save
6. Reload the page

Expected behaviour is: GettingStarted doesn't appear
Actual behaviour is: GettingStarted appears

Reason: The URL I'm reloading 
(file:///Users/smith/Desktop/test9july2.html#GettingStarted:GettingStarted) 
still contains a reference to GettingStarted as it was open when I reloaded 
the page.

Furthermore...

If I create a tiddler 'HelloThere' and add it to the list of default 
tiddlers in control panel, so that it looks like this;

HelloThere
 [!is[system]has[modified]!sort[modified]limit[25]]


and then close all tiddlers and reload the page, I don't see any tiddlers 
at all - because I'm reloading a URL that ends wth #: - if I remove these 
two characters and reload the page, I get the expected result.

Of course, if I close the wiki altogether and then re-open it from the 
file, it behaves as expected, so perhaps you are experiencing a different 
issue?

Regards,
Richard

On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 8:14:01 PM UTC+10, Clément Aymé wrote:


 I've just followed the GettingStarted advice: 

 *Stop this message appearing by changing the default tiddlers under the 
 Basics tab. *

 And saved globally (note there is no tick to save $:/ControlPanel tiddler) 

 using the download icon. 
 But with no luck.

 When I try to edit $:/DefaultTiddlers I got a dialog box that warns about 
 future updates... 
 So what ?


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