[tw] Re: TW5 - Is there a "Create tiddlers from missing" plugin or script?

[Entaro Adun]

May I ask if you could tell me where would I enter these tags?

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 7:18:12 PM UTC-4, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> This will create all missing tiddlers, but it isn't only tags. 
>
> <$button>Do it
> <$list filter='[all[missing]]'>
> <$action-setfield text=''/>
> 
> 
>

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Re: [tw] Re: TW5 - Is there a "Create tiddlers from missing" plugin or script?

[David Gifford]

yup!

On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 7:29 AM, Tobias Beer  wrote:

> Hi Dave,
>
>
>> So by clicking a button, I create tiddlers for all the tags that don't
>> have tiddlers. This does two things, both aesthetic:
>>
>> 1. Makes the main index links the same color
>> 2. Removes the "Missing tiddler "topic x" - click to create" message at
>> the top of the list of notes for that topic. (It is there if I click on an
>> empty link to that topic from the index)
>>
>> I suppose it could also be functional in that if I needed to drag the
>> topical tiddler to another file, I would have a link to it already from the
>> index.
>>
>
> Interesting. So we could / should distinguish missing tags from missing
> tiddlers (owed to references).
>
> A missing tag is likely a kind of category that is pretty much established
> as a form of entity by virtue of being a tag. A basic reference pointing
> nowhere is of a different kind of missing. So, you're essentially
> eliminating one of these types, manually.
>
> Best wishes,
>
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Re: [tw] Re: TW5 - Is there a "Create tiddlers from missing" plugin or script?

[Tobias Beer]

Hi Dave,
 

> So by clicking a button, I create tiddlers for all the tags that don't 
> have tiddlers. This does two things, both aesthetic:
>
> 1. Makes the main index links the same color
> 2. Removes the "Missing tiddler "topic x" - click to create" message at 
> the top of the list of notes for that topic. (It is there if I click on an 
> empty link to that topic from the index)
>
> I suppose it could also be functional in that if I needed to drag the 
> topical tiddler to another file, I would have a link to it already from the 
> index.
>

Interesting. So we could / should distinguish missing tags from missing 
tiddlers (owed to references).

A missing tag is likely a kind of category that is pretty much established 
as a form of entity by virtue of being a tag. A basic reference pointing 
nowhere is of a different kind of missing. So, you're essentially 
eliminating one of these types, manually.

Best wishes,

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Re: [tw] Re: TW5 - Is there a "Create tiddlers from missing" plugin or script?

[David Gifford]

@Jed

Thanks for the advice, I will take care of that later today.

@Tobias:

I have an index that shows all topics (ie all tags) as links to real or to
potential tiddlers. And all my topic tiddlers display the contents of the
note tiddlers tagged with that topic.

So by clicking a button, I create tiddlers for all the tags that don't have
tiddlers. This does two things, both aesthetic:

1. Makes the main index links the same color
2. Removes the "Missing tiddler "topic x" - click to create" message at the
top of the list of notes for that topic. (It is there if I click on an
empty link to that topic from the index)

I suppose it could also be functional in that if I needed to drag the
topical tiddler to another file, I would have a link to it already from the
index.

Blessings

Dave

On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 3:19 AM, Tobias Beer  wrote:

> Hi Dave
>
> Is this about aesthetics? ...or what's your intention?
>
> Best wishes,
>
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[tw] Re: TW5 - Is there a "Create tiddlers from missing" plugin or script?

[Tobias Beer]

Hi Dave

Is this about aesthetics? ...or what's your intention?

Best wishes,

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[tw] Re: TW5 - Is there a "Create tiddlers from missing" plugin or script?

[Jed Carty]

I keep forgetting that is[tiddler] works.
You may want to use [tags[]!is[tiddler]!is[shadow]], from poking tw.com a 
bit your filter made some existing shadow tiddlers show up. The ones I saw 
were: $:/tags/SideBar, $:/tags/ViewTemplate, $:/tags/EditTemplate, 
$:/tags/TiddlerInfo, using this button marks them as modified. This doesn't 
break anything, but they won't be upgraded if there are any future changes 
to the core. I don't know if this would affect other plugins or not.

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Re: [tw] Re: TW5 - Is there a "Create tiddlers from missing" plugin or script?

[David Gifford]

Woo hoo!

<$button>Convert Missing to Tiddlers
<$list filter='[tags[]!is[tiddler]]'>
<$action-setfield text=''/>



On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 6:16 PM, David Gifford  wrote:

> Well, okay I spoke too soon. It does work as advertised, but I assumed
> that all empty links in the tag pill dropdowns would be listed in missing,
> since they show up as empty links. But they are not listed in missing. So I
> still need an action set that grabs all tags that do not yet exist as
> tiddlers.
>
> Dave
>
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 6:02 PM, David Gifford  wrote:
>
>> Oh my goodness that worked great, and makes me start to get new ideas.
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Jed Carty  wrote:
>>
>>> This will create all missing tiddlers, but it isn't only tags.
>>>
>>> <$button>Do it
>>> <$list filter='[all[missing]]'>
>>> <$action-setfield text=''/>
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [tw] Re: TW5 - Is there a "Create tiddlers from missing" plugin or script?

[David Gifford]

Well, okay I spoke too soon. It does work as advertised, but I assumed that
all empty links in the tag pill dropdowns would be listed in missing, since
they show up as empty links. But they are not listed in missing. So I still
need an action set that grabs all tags that do not yet exist as tiddlers.

Dave

On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 6:02 PM, David Gifford  wrote:

> Oh my goodness that worked great, and makes me start to get new ideas.
> Thanks!
>
> Dave
>
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Jed Carty  wrote:
>
>> This will create all missing tiddlers, but it isn't only tags.
>>
>> <$button>Do it
>> <$list filter='[all[missing]]'>
>> <$action-setfield text=''/>
>> 
>> 
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Re: [tw] Re: TW5 - Is there a "Create tiddlers from missing" plugin or script?

[David Gifford]

Oh my goodness that worked great, and makes me start to get new ideas.
Thanks!

Dave

On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Jed Carty  wrote:

> This will create all missing tiddlers, but it isn't only tags.
>
> <$button>Do it
> <$list filter='[all[missing]]'>
> <$action-setfield text=''/>
> 
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[tw] Re: TW5 - Is there a "Create tiddlers from missing" plugin or script?

[Jed Carty]

This will create all missing tiddlers, but it isn't only tags. 

<$button>Do it
<$list filter='[all[missing]]'>
<$action-setfield text=''/>



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