[tw] Re: What is the difference between tiddlers being in a lust and multiple tiddlers having the same tag?

2013-11-17 Thread David Gifford
I am still laughing too hard about tiddlers being in a lust to answer.

Just kidding. The difference in this case is that tags are fine as long as 
you don't feel the need to order the list results in a personal way that is 
not either alphabetical, by date, etc. Tags can only do that. What TW5 
calls Lists, on the other hand, give you freedom to order things as you 
wish.

You create a list by editing a tiddler, creating a field called list, and 
entering tiddler titles separated by spaces, with double brackets for multi 
word tiddler titles: Tiddler TiddlerTitle [[Tiddler 2]] etc

The list filter you referenced in your post:

$list filter=[list[Maui]sort[title]]$view field=title 
format=link/ $view field=summary 
format=text/$viewbrbr/$list

Creates a list of all the tiddlers you added to the list field of the Maui 
tiddler, in the order in which you put them there.


* If you change the order of the items in the list field, or add or remove 
items, those changes will also be shown in the list generated by the list 
filter.So for example, *
On Sunday, November 17, 2013 12:18:14 AM UTC-6, Josh wrote:

 Hi Guys, 

 Browsing David's great site here (*http://www.giffmex.org/tw5mall.htm 
 http://www.giffmex.org/tw5mall.htm*) I came across many interesting 
 articles.One titled *Lists with tiddler summaries.*

 On this page he displays tiddlers with the tag *maui *and shows the 
 contents of the *summary* *field *next to the tiddler. 

 He uses this code:

 *$list filter=[tag[Maui]sort[title]]$view field=title 
 format=link/ $view field=summary 
 format=text/$viewbrbr/$list*
 He also describes it is possible to do the same with lists instead of 
 tags, I am wondering what are lists? and how are they better than tags? 
 Lists, uses this code:

 *$list filter=[list[Maui]sort[title]]$view field=title 
 format=link/ $view field=summary 
 format=text/$viewbrbr/$list*
 Many thanks Josh.


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[tw] Re: What is the difference between tiddlers being in a lust and multiple tiddlers having the same tag?

2013-11-17 Thread David Gifford
Hit the wrong button. Allow me to finish.

So for example, if you tag the tiddlers Matthew Mark Luke and John as 
'Gospels', and do a list filter for Gospels based on the tag, *$list 
filter=[tag[Gospels]sort[title]]...*

The order will be John Luke Mark Matthew, because that is alphabetical.

If you add Matthew Mark Luke John to the list field of the Gospels tiddler, 
in that order, then they will appear in that order if you do *$list 
filter=[list[Gospels]sort[title]]...*

So lists take a little more work, but offer more control over the order of 
the tiddlers in the list filters.

Also, please note that everything in the TW5 mall is not updated since the 
refactoring. I need to do that yet, but am pretty busy. Your list filter 
has *$view field=title format=link/* , which is outdated.

Dave


On Sunday, November 17, 2013 12:18:14 AM UTC-6, Josh wrote:

 Hi Guys, 

 Browsing David's great site here (*http://www.giffmex.org/tw5mall.htm 
 http://www.giffmex.org/tw5mall.htm*) I came across many interesting 
 articles.One titled *Lists with tiddler summaries.*

 On this page he displays tiddlers with the tag *maui *and shows the 
 contents of the *summary* *field *next to the tiddler. 

 He uses this code:

 *$list filter=[tag[Maui]sort[title]]$view field=title 
 format=link/ $view field=summary 
 format=text/$viewbrbr/$list*
 He also describes it is possible to do the same with lists instead of 
 tags, I am wondering what are lists? and how are they better than tags? 
 Lists, uses this code:

 *$list filter=[list[Maui]sort[title]]$view field=title 
 format=link/ $view field=summary 
 format=text/$viewbrbr/$list*
 Many thanks Josh.


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[tw] Re: What is the difference between tiddlers being in a lust and multiple tiddlers having the same tag?

2013-11-17 Thread Josh
Thanks Dave, 

That's a great distinction. 

However is there a way to automatically add a tiddler to a list?

Because for example I would like to see tasks that I add most recently to 
Task Management tiddler showing at the top and not the bottom (which sort 
by [created] does). Is this possible or would I have to manually add them 
all to a tiddlers list field to do so?

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Re: [tw] Re: What is the difference between tiddlers being in a lust and multiple tiddlers having the same tag?

2013-11-17 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Josh

Apologies for not replying to your original post. I'm drafting a docs
update for tw5.com to cover the whole area of structuring data in tiddlers
with links, tags and lists.


 Because for example I would like to see tasks that I add most recently to
 Task Management tiddler showing at the top and not the bottom (which sort
 by [created] does). Is this possible or would I have to manually add them
 all to a tiddlers list field to do so?


Can you just sort your task list in reverse order of created date?

[tag[task]!tag[done]!sort[created]]

Best wishes

Jeremy

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Re: [tw] Re: What is the difference between tiddlers being in a lust and multiple tiddlers having the same tag?

2013-11-17 Thread Stephan Hradek


Am Sonntag, 17. November 2013 22:07:49 UTC+1 schrieb Jeremy Ruston:

 Can you just sort your task list in reverse order of created date?

 [tag[task]!tag[done]!sort[created]]


My I cry inconsistent? ;) !tag[zzz] means does NOT have tag 'zzz'. 
but here !sort[created] does not mean not sorted by create date. I 
would have expected sort[-create]. 

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Re: [tw] Re: What is the difference between tiddlers being in a lust and multiple tiddlers having the same tag?

2013-11-17 Thread Josh


 Thanks Jeremy.


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