[tw] Re: three star ratings in RatingsMacro and rating Summary
Dickon, If I understand correctly, Tobias' plugin works on the tiddler itself to add a rating, so you'd need an expansion of this plugin to work with multiple people rating tiddlers. You might also be interested in this TiddlyWeb discussion about a voting system: http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlyweb/browse_thread/thread/3bbedd8c41b52e5d J. On Nov 9, 11:28 am, dickon dickon.beving...@googlemail.com wrote: I am following this thread with great interest but only understanding small parts of it from a technical point of view. Can I ask a question about the *application* of this function, once it is up and running, though? Am I right in thinking that in a TiddlyWeb you could use this to allow multiple users to provide feedback on the usefulness of particular tiddlers - that could be gathered up in a separate 'bag', and which might then help refine the content in the document over time? I am thinking in particular of how it might be used in the treatment manual that is slowly growing athttp://imp.peermore.com/imp/recipes/editorial/tiddlers.wiki Cheers, Dickon On Nov 8, 2:40 pm, Tobias -http://tbGTD.tiddlyspot.com; beertob...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi Alex, Well, the results aren't really sent anywhere. Instead the tiddler (transcluded or not) that fiddle withratinginformation like RatingSummary are being 'refreshed' (update their contents). This is what the 'update' function in RatingMacro is for and 'refresh' sure would have been a more appropriate name for it. It loops over all those tiddlers which you specified for being updated (aka 'refreshed') which I stored in the 'rel' attribute of theratingwrapper. Somewhere in the loop it does just the following: story.refreshTiddler(tids[i],null,true); refreshDisplay(tids[i]); ...which I assume doesn't work with TiddlersBar as for now, since all tiddlers except the currently visible are 'display:none' and therefore presumably skipped by the core 'refresh' handler. So I am not sure if this is something the core could be amenable to or whether TiddlersBar requires some more tinkering with. Anyone around with a more indepth understanding of the process or an idea on how to refresh hidden content? Tobias. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: three star ratings in RatingsMacro and rating Summary
I am following this thread with great interest but only understanding small parts of it from a technical point of view. Can I ask a question about the *application* of this function, once it is up and running, though? Am I right in thinking that in a TiddlyWeb you could use this to allow multiple users to provide feedback on the usefulness of particular tiddlers - that could be gathered up in a separate 'bag', and which might then help refine the content in the document over time? I am thinking in particular of how it might be used in the treatment manual that is slowly growing at http://imp.peermore.com/imp/recipes/editorial/tiddlers.wiki Cheers, Dickon On Nov 8, 2:40 pm, Tobias - http://tbGTD.tiddlyspot.com; beertob...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi Alex, Well, the results aren't really sent anywhere. Instead the tiddler (transcluded or not) that fiddle with rating information like RatingSummary are being 'refreshed' (update their contents). This is what the 'update' function in RatingMacro is for and 'refresh' sure would have been a more appropriate name for it. It loops over all those tiddlers which you specified for being updated (aka 'refreshed') which I stored in the 'rel' attribute of the rating wrapper. Somewhere in the loop it does just the following: story.refreshTiddler(tids[i],null,true); refreshDisplay(tids[i]); ...which I assume doesn't work with TiddlersBar as for now, since all tiddlers except the currently visible are 'display:none' and therefore presumably skipped by the core 'refresh' handler. So I am not sure if this is something the core could be amenable to or whether TiddlersBar requires some more tinkering with. Anyone around with a more indepth understanding of the process or an idea on how to refresh hidden content? Tobias. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: three star ratings in RatingsMacro and rating Summary
Anyone who has an understanding of (language.specific?!?) Unicode- related problems... please check this out and see if you can help out. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: three star ratings in RatingsMacro and rating Summary
Hi Alex, Well, the results aren't really sent anywhere. Instead the tiddler (transcluded or not) that fiddle with rating information like RatingSummary are being 'refreshed' (update their contents). This is what the 'update' function in RatingMacro is for and 'refresh' sure would have been a more appropriate name for it. It loops over all those tiddlers which you specified for being updated (aka 'refreshed') which I stored in the 'rel' attribute of the rating wrapper. Somewhere in the loop it does just the following: story.refreshTiddler(tids[i],null,true); refreshDisplay(tids[i]); ...which I assume doesn't work with TiddlersBar as for now, since all tiddlers except the currently visible are 'display:none' and therefore presumably skipped by the core 'refresh' handler. So I am not sure if this is something the core could be amenable to or whether TiddlersBar requires some more tinkering with. Anyone around with a more indepth understanding of the process or an idea on how to refresh hidden content? Tobias. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: three star ratings in RatingsMacro and rating Summary
Anyone - do the stars work in IE? I've got that sinking feeling again ;( Alex 2009/11/6 Måns humam...@gmail.com Hi Tobias Is it possible to make the stars appear as stars and not just as small rectangles in Google Chrome? YS Måns Mårtensson On 6 Nov., 14:40, Tobias - http://tbGTD.tiddlyspot.com; beertob...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi Alex, For one, I can't access yout mtc... I get this from dropbox... Oops! (403) It seems you don't belong here! You should probably try logging in? But that's ok, got the bug anyways. It was due to me not checking preexisting ratings. So it's fixed Get the new version of RatingSummary. I also added a parameter to its beginning where you can define the output format for a tiddler called 'tidderFormat'... default is '[[%0]]', where %0 is the tiddlerName. Especially with QuickOpenTagPlugin it is worthwile replacing that with 'tag [[%1]] '. So now you can change your source... ratings: [none,poor, below average, average, above average, excellent], into something like this... ratings: [none,low, medium, high], Enjoy, Tobias. -- http://www.multiurl.com/g/64 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: three star ratings in RatingsMacro and rating Summary
Hi Mans. What about chrome? For me it looks like this in chrome: http://bit.ly/406yAn and like this in ie7 (Avant Browser using ie7 rendering engine): http://bit.ly/1jJcg4 Is that a charset-problem of your localisation of chrome? I have no idea. However I have replaced the star in the code with its unicode counterpart, maybe that solved it for you. Please, try again... and also note that you can replace the star with any other character that works for you. Last but not least, there also is an image version of it... though not working in ie as that doesn't allow for embedded images using 'data'... http://bit.ly/1yyHtD ...however you could replace those with valid image paths. Tobias. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: three star ratings in RatingsMacro and rating Summary
Hi Alex As far as I can observe, this has nothing to do with naming of tiddlers. It's not even a problem in Rating-Macro but rather in how Tiddlersbar is hiding tiddlers from display, and them not receiving the refresh events on updates. I have found that to be an issue with it as well... and added in one of my tiddlywikis a refresh to the tiddler every time I click on a tab... though honestly, that's not what I want! However doing so may cause problems if the tiddler was in edit mode... then TiddlersBar might not be able to access it as it can't refresh a tiddler in edit mode. Right now I am lacking the knowledge of how to get around this. Anyone has a clue? Eric? ;-) Tobias. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: three star ratings in RatingsMacro and rating Summary
You are probably right - however this is what I see on lastfm.tiddlyspot.com/#RatingMacro: http://tinyurl.com/yfwrkwl Måns On 7 Nov., 21:39, Tobias - http://tbGTD.tiddlyspot.com; beertob...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi Mans. What about chrome? For me it looks like this in chrome:http://bit.ly/406yAn and like this in ie7 (Avant Browser using ie7 rendering engine):http://bit.ly/1jJcg4 Is that a charset-problem of your localisation of chrome? I have no idea. However I have replaced the star in the code with its unicode counterpart, maybe that solved it for you. Please, try again... and also note that you can replace the star with any other character that works for you. Last but not least, there also is an image version of it... though not working in ie as that doesn't allow for embedded images using 'data'...http://bit.ly/1yyHtD ...however you could replace those with valid image paths. Tobias. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: three star ratings in RatingsMacro and rating Summary
and IE: http://tinyurl.com/yf7kcbz Måns On 7 Nov., 22:27, Måns humam...@gmail.com wrote: You are probably right - however this is what I see on lastfm.tiddlyspot.com/#RatingMacro:http://tinyurl.com/yfwrkwl Måns On 7 Nov., 21:39, Tobias -http://tbGTD.tiddlyspot.com; beertob...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi Mans. What about chrome? For me it looks like this in chrome:http://bit.ly/406yAn and like this in ie7 (Avant Browser using ie7 rendering engine):http://bit.ly/1jJcg4 Is that a charset-problem of your localisation of chrome? I have no idea. However I have replaced the star in the code with its unicode counterpart, maybe that solved it for you. Please, try again... and also note that you can replace the star with any other character that works for you. Last but not least, there also is an image version of it... though not working in ie as that doesn't allow for embedded images using 'data'...http://bit.ly/1yyHtD ...however you could replace those with valid image paths. Tobias. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: three star ratings in RatingsMacro and rating Summary
It's fine in FF: http://tinyurl.com/ylm52zf Måns On 7 Nov., 22:51, Måns humam...@gmail.com wrote: and IE:http://tinyurl.com/yf7kcbz Måns On 7 Nov., 22:27, Måns humam...@gmail.com wrote: You are probably right - however this is what I see on lastfm.tiddlyspot.com/#RatingMacro:http://tinyurl.com/yfwrkwl Måns On 7 Nov., 21:39, Tobias -http://tbGTD.tiddlyspot.com; beertob...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi Mans. What about chrome? For me it looks like this in chrome:http://bit.ly/406yAn and like this in ie7 (Avant Browser using ie7 rendering engine):http://bit.ly/1jJcg4 Is that a charset-problem of your localisation of chrome? I have no idea. However I have replaced the star in the code with its unicode counterpart, maybe that solved it for you. Please, try again... and also note that you can replace the star with any other character that works for you. Last but not least, there also is an image version of it... though not working in ie as that doesn't allow for embedded images using 'data'...http://bit.ly/1yyHtD ...however you could replace those with valid image paths. Tobias. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: three star ratings in RatingsMacro and rating Summary
Tobias, You are right: the name of the tiddler in which rating summary lives has no baring. But the tiddler to which the results are sent can't have spaces in their title. A single word tiddler will suit me for the moment. I broader question relating to summary tables and one to satisfy curiocity: how do you get them to auto refresh? I am impressed how ratingSummary does this Alex 2009/11/7 Tobias - http://tbGTD.tiddlyspot.com beertob...@googlemail.com Hi Alex As far as I can observe, this has nothing to do with naming of tiddlers. It's not even a problem in Rating-Macro but rather in how Tiddlersbar is hiding tiddlers from display, and them not receiving the refresh events on updates. I have found that to be an issue with it as well... and added in one of my tiddlywikis a refresh to the tiddler every time I click on a tab... though honestly, that's not what I want! However doing so may cause problems if the tiddler was in edit mode... then TiddlersBar might not be able to access it as it can't refresh a tiddler in edit mode. Right now I am lacking the knowledge of how to get around this. Anyone has a clue? Eric? ;-) Tobias. -- http://www.multiurl.com/g/64 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
