[tw] Re: TiddlyDocs on Vanila TW

2010-09-06 Thread skye riquelme
Ahaaa!!!

Haven´t got used to plugins with their own stylesheets yet... just
recently saw it for the first time in  Tobias's
TagSearchPluginguess its part of the natural evolution of this
critter

got it nowThanks for the quick reply!

Skye

On 6 Set, 20:35, PMario  wrote:
> On Sep 7, 12:29 am, skye riquelme  wrote:> Hi All
>
> > Been playing with the local vanilla version of TiddlyDocs.(http://
> > groups.google.com/group/tiddlyweb/browse_thread/thread/
> > 3787ae0bb41866dc#)..and I like it...I can see interesting
> > possibilities.only I am not content with white page and blue
> > heading...so started playing around to change colors, sizes ...just a
> > little!!and found that some things change easily...like
> > colors...but widths of the mainMenu, sideBar ets all resist my
> > attempts to "pretty" them up...why doesn´t this TW obey all the
> > changes I put into StyleSheet.seems it has a mind of its
> > own.which I sometimes think TW hasbut then..has it?
>
> oh yes. q;-) I'm sure it has.
>
> > Seriously...how do I tweak StyleSheet in the TiddlyDocs, vanilla
> > version???
>
> Most of the plugins, installed there have there own StyleSheet with
> them.
> Have a look at shaddow tiddlers [1][2] + may be some others. Editing
> them will help. I hope :)
>
> TableOfContentPlugin [3] seems to have a stylesheet, which is not
> exported as a shaddow. Needs direct editing. MainMenu is there.
>
> Have a look at "Tags" tab and open all systemConfig tiddlers. Look if
> they have !StyleSheet with them.
>
> hope this helps
> have fun!
> mario
>
> [1]http://vanillatiddlydocs.tiddlyspot.com/#DroppableSectionPluginStyles
> [2]http://vanillatiddlydocs.tiddlyspot.com/#DocumentTabsPluginStyles
>
> [3]http://vanillatiddlydocs.tiddlyspot.com/#TableOfContentPlugin

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[tw] Re: TiddlyDocs on Vanila TW

2010-09-06 Thread PMario
On Sep 7, 12:29 am, skye riquelme  wrote:
> Hi All
>
> Been playing with the local vanilla version of TiddlyDocs.(http://
> groups.google.com/group/tiddlyweb/browse_thread/thread/
> 3787ae0bb41866dc#)..and I like it...I can see interesting
> possibilities.only I am not content with white page and blue
> heading...so started playing around to change colors, sizes ...just a
> little!!and found that some things change easily...like
> colors...but widths of the mainMenu, sideBar ets all resist my
> attempts to "pretty" them up...why doesn´t this TW obey all the
> changes I put into StyleSheet.seems it has a mind of its
> own.which I sometimes think TW hasbut then..has it?
oh yes. q;-) I'm sure it has.

> Seriously...how do I tweak StyleSheet in the TiddlyDocs, vanilla
> version???
Most of the plugins, installed there have there own StyleSheet with
them.
Have a look at shaddow tiddlers [1][2] + may be some others. Editing
them will help. I hope :)

TableOfContentPlugin [3] seems to have a stylesheet, which is not
exported as a shaddow. Needs direct editing. MainMenu is there.

Have a look at "Tags" tab and open all systemConfig tiddlers. Look if
they have !StyleSheet with them.

hope this helps
have fun!
mario

[1] http://vanillatiddlydocs.tiddlyspot.com/#DroppableSectionPluginStyles
[2] http://vanillatiddlydocs.tiddlyspot.com/#DocumentTabsPluginStyles

[3] http://vanillatiddlydocs.tiddlyspot.com/#TableOfContentPlugin

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[tw] Re: tiddlydocs standalone

2010-09-06 Thread PMario
Hi,
I think tiddlydocs was invented, to be used with server side
tiddlyWeb.
But there was a thread some time ago [1] which produced a stand allone
version [2]. But mainliy the tiddlydocs menue. It doesn't include any
wysiwyg editor.

hope this helps.
have fun!

[1] 
http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlyweb/browse_thread/thread/3787ae0bb41866dc/88d4953ff27592da
[2] http://vanillatiddlydocs.tiddlyspot.com/

On Sep 6, 2:57 pm, vlak  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> just today I tried to cook a standalone tiddlydocs after a new tiddly
> svn checkout.  The cooking went well, however the result was a tiddly
> that showed errors during loading and tiddlydocs were not really
> working.  I would appreciate any help or a hint on how I could get a
> standalone tiddlydocs working.
>
> thanks,
> vlak

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[tw] Re: tiddlydocs

2009-03-28 Thread EduardWagner

Hi Simon,

On 18 Mrz., 16:54, Simon McManus  wrote:
> just to answer your other questions :
>
>
> > - will there be something like a nestedtree navigation, maybe like a
> > changeable viewmode for the left bar?
>
> You mean you want to switch between the normal MainMenu tiddler and
> theTiddlyDocsmain menu?
>
> TiddlyDocsjust does this :
>
> <>
>
> passing in the name of the document outline tiddler (its spec).  I am
> not exactly sure why you would want to switch between the two views.
> Can you provide an example?

do know the tagstree plugin from Pascal Collin at
http://visualtw.ouvaton.org/VisualTW.html
would be great to Displays tiddlers hierachy as a tree of tiddlers to
to create dynamic outline navigation.

> > - is it possible to customize the format of the ordered lists level
> > like e.g. 1., 1.1, 1.1.a) ?
>
> At the moment It just adds a number for each level.  eg:
>
> 1
> 1.1
> 1.2
> 1.3
> 2
> 2.1
> 2.2
>
> It would be quite easy to customise. What would you like to change?

we would like to use a structure like
1
1.1
1.1.1
1.1.1 a)

> > - will it be possible to integrate a table of contents into the
> > preview of the document?
>
> Yes, the print out (PDF) will eventually show the table of content on
> the first page.
>
> > - will it be possible to overtake the numbered tiddlertitles into the
> > preview?
>
> Could you clarify what you mean here pls.

the section number shold apear in the table of contens and at the
referring section
as the look like of a word-document

do you know the DcTableOfContentsPlugin fromDoug Compton at
http://www.zagware.com/tw/plugins.html#DcTableOfContentsPlugin
would be grat to export a pdf-file where you can navigate by clicking
the table of contents
or to have clickable bockmarks in the

Thanks a lot for this great idea
Bye Edi
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[tw] Re: tiddlydocs

2009-03-18 Thread Simon McManus

just to answer your other questions :
>

>
> - whats the current stadium of tiddlydocs?

in development, we are trying to be as open as possible.

Currently all code is being committed to the ccTiddly plugins
directory :

http://svn.tiddlywiki.org/Trunk/association/serversides/cctiddly/Trunk/plugins/TiddlyDocs/

This will eventually move to the verticals directory.

I have recently been putting together an introductory screencast:

http://www.vimeo.com/3718346

I am keeping a demo available at

tiddlydocs.com (formally wiki.osmosoft.com/TiddlyDocs)

It is generally the latest version of the code so may contain bugs.

If there is anything else I can do to keep you informed please let me
know.






> - will it be possible to run tiddlydocs within tiddlyweb?


absolutely. We eventually intend to deploy TiddlyDocs on TiddlyWeb.

> - would it be possible to integrate tiddlydocs into an existing
> tiddlywiki, and show the navigation bar within e.g. a hovering or
> moving tiddler?


should be, the Table of content is just a TiddlyWiki macro being
called from within the mainMenu.

The drag and drop functionality has not been made particularly re-
usable yet, but its something I want to do.  Does that answer your
question?

> - will there be something like a nestedtree navigation, maybe like a
> changeable viewmode for the left bar?

You mean you want to switch between the normal MainMenu tiddler and
the TiddlyDocs main menu?

TiddlyDocs just does this :

<>

passing in the name of the document outline tiddler (its spec).  I am
not exactly sure why you would want to switch between the two views.
Can you provide an example?


> - is it possible to customize the format of the ordered lists level
> like e.g. 1., 1.1, 1.1.a) ?

At the moment It just adds a number for each level.  eg:

1
1.1
1.2
1.3
2
2.1
2.2

It would be quite easy to customise. What would you like to change?


> - will it be possible to integrate a table of contents into the
> preview of the document?

Yes, the print out (PDF) will eventually show the table of content on
the first page.

> - will it be possible to overtake the numbered tiddlertitles into the
> preview?

Could you clarify what you mean here pls.


> - will it be possible to edit more then one document within
> tiddlydocs?

Yes, the idea is that each document is actually just a tiddler
containing a list of the tiddler which make up the document.

This makes it possible to share and reuse sections between different
documents,

> so e.g. at first you have to create a document und afterwards you
> create sections within the document (each section has a tag with
> identifies the document), so the navigation root would be the document
> itself
>
> thanks very much for feedback
> Edi


Thanks for the questions Edi, please let me know if you we can help
any more.

Cheers

Simon
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[tw] Re: tiddlydocs

2009-03-18 Thread Simon McManus



On Mar 16, 9:46 am, EduardWagner  wrote:
> Hi,
> would like to play around a bit with the tiddlydocs plugin together
> with tiddlyweb,
> located 
> athttp://svn.tiddlywiki.org/Trunk/association/serversides/cctiddly/Trun...
> but i think it doesn't work with the latest release of tiddlywiki
> 2.5.0.
> get an error like    1. Error while executing macro <>:
>    2. TypeError: $ is not a function
>

ooo, ok.  Thats because TiddlyDocs requires the latest version of
TiddlyWiki with jQuery included.

If you get the latest TiddlyWiki file from  :  http://tiddlywiki.com/empty.html
And use that instead of the TiddlyWiki file being used by TiddlyWeb
that error should be resolved. I think TiddlyWeb stores the empty.html
in your temp directories.  I'm sure Chris can provide better
directions.

You will also need to set up FND's devtext tiddlyweb plugin.  The
devtext plugin allows TiddlyWeb to read .tid files from a conventional
folder structure (without revisions)

Its still very much in development, there are install instruction
here  :

http://tiddlyweb.peermore.com/wiki/#devtext

If I remember correctly you will need to set up a bag for each of the
TiddlyDocs folders.   Fred also suspects the devtext plugin will not
allow you to save.
















> If i use the plugin together with TiddlyWiki version: 2.5.0 (beta 1)
> it works proper. Seems to have a problem with the jQuery includes?
>
> Some help?
>
> Or should we wait for a first official releace of tiddlydocs?
> We don't want to produce heavy efforts!
>
> Thanks Edi
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[tw] Re: TiddlyDocs & TeamTasks

2009-03-16 Thread Simon McManus



On Mar 14, 2:33 pm, skye riquelme  wrote:
> Hi All
>
> I want to say that the TiddlyDocs develeopment looks great and I am
> awaiting release of the stand-alone version..and part of my
> interest will be to mesh it with a TeamTasks type of approach, so that
> it becomes a great project managment and reporting toolwith
> TiddlyDocs...pulling it together to produce a great report...


TiddlyDocs uses many of the same plugins as Team Tasks which should
make it nice and easy mix Team Task reports with TiddlyDocs.
>
> How are things going?
>

Things are going well.  I am running the latest version of the code
here :

http://wiki.osmosoft.com/TiddlyDocs

I am just trying to fix afew bugs and get out a screencast updating
people about the progress of TiddlyDocs.


> I´d love to get a copy of editable copy TiddlyDocs that I can play
> with!!!


You can always pull down the latest code from SVN  :
http://svn.tiddlywiki.org/Trunk/association/serversides/cctiddly/Trunk/plugins/TiddlyDocs/

I have had that code working in ccTiddly and TiddlyWeb.

If you have any problems getting set up please ask in the appropriate
group.

Thanks

>
> Skye
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[tw] Re: tiddlydocs

2009-03-16 Thread EduardWagner

Hi,
would like to play around a bit with the tiddlydocs plugin together
with tiddlyweb,
located at
http://svn.tiddlywiki.org/Trunk/association/serversides/cctiddly/Trunk/plugins/TiddlyDocs/files/plugins/TiddlyDocs.js
but i think it doesn't work with the latest release of tiddlywiki
2.5.0.
get an error like1. Error while executing macro <>:
   2. TypeError: $ is not a function

If i use the plugin together with TiddlyWiki version: 2.5.0 (beta 1)
it works proper. Seems to have a problem with the jQuery includes?

Some help?

Or should we wait for a first official releace of tiddlydocs?
We don't want to produce heavy efforts!

Thanks Edi
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[tw] Re: tiddlydocs

2009-03-13 Thread cd...@peermore.com



On Mar 13, 6:13 pm, EduardWagner  wrote:
> - will it be possible to run tiddlydocs within tiddlyweb?

While I don't know the answers to your other questions I can answer
this one: Yes, this is in the works; at some point in the not too
distant future TiddlyDocs will be working on TiddlyWeb.


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