Re: [tw5] [Suggestion] Be your own Way Back Machine ... ?

2021-05-21 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Javier

Nice to meet someone who still understands what "MOOT" means :-).

Javier Rojas wrote:

> > ... see 
> > for example https://pinboard.in/cached/2d6fe5320767/ , which is a 
> > snapshot I generated for http://musicsheets.tiddlyspot.com/ 
>
> Apologies, I just noticed that only registered users can see that 
> snapshot, which makes the exercise kinda moot.


Just to explain a bit more, which I think *you* already understand. 

We use TW with the belief it will work in 30 years.
But its no good if in 30 years my great-grandchildren cannot find my stuff 
AFTER I snuffed it.

I DO think that LONG-TERM-MEMORY on the internet is actually very fragile, 
and IF you want to preserve what you write you do need to do extra steps.

Slightly anal, but not a million miles away from the truth,
Best wishes, TT

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Re: [tw5] [Suggestion] Be your own Way Back Machine ... ?

2021-05-20 Thread Javier Eduardo Rojas Romero
On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 04:14:50PM -0500, Javier Eduardo Rojas Romero wrote:
> On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 10:57:52AM -0700, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
> > The archival imperative of https://archive.org/web/ is brilliant.
> > 
> > Thinking about it was struck that maybe it is common sense to safely 
> > archive one's own wikis too.
> > 
> > But how? Where? When?

> ... see
> for example https://pinboard.in/cached/2d6fe5320767/ , which is a
> snapshot I generated for http://musicsheets.tiddlyspot.com/

Apologies, I just noticed that only registered users can see that
snapshot, which makes the exercise kinda moot.

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Re: [tw5] [Suggestion] Be your own Way Back Machine ... ?

2021-05-20 Thread Javier Eduardo Rojas Romero
On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 10:57:52AM -0700, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
> The archival imperative of https://archive.org/web/ is brilliant.
> 
> Thinking about it was struck that maybe it is common sense to safely 
> archive one's own wikis too.
> 
> But how? Where? When?

If you don't mind doing it manually, you can use Pinboard
(https://pinboard.in); it's a (paid) bookmarking service that enables
you to not only bookmark a page and associate tags to it, but also
perform a snapshot of it (if you choose that subscription plan).

Usually those snapshots only save the page's contents, and don't save
any external resources; but, since tiddlywiki pages are completely
self-contained, the snapshot generated by pinboard works properly; see
for example https://pinboard.in/cached/2d6fe5320767/ , which is a
snapshot I generated for http://musicsheets.tiddlyspot.com/

Cheers,

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[tw5] [Suggestion] Be your own Way Back Machine ... ?

2021-05-20 Thread TiddlyTweeter
The archival imperative of https://archive.org/web/ is brilliant.

Thinking about it was struck that maybe it is common sense to safely 
archive one's own wikis too.

But how? Where? When?

Just an open question.
TT

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