[tw5] Re: Digital gardening Tools

[Soren Bjornstad]

On Friday, May 7, 2021 at 12:31:00 PM UTC-5 Odin wrote:

> It also appears a lot of the public gardens on the list aren´t maintained. 
> Which is ironic considering the name. A garden requires continuous 
> maintenance to be successful and to produce. Maybe the initial craze about 
> Zettelkasten didn´t live up to the hype for some people? 
>

I wouldn't read too much in to this. Habits are hard. >90% of people who 
start something like this won't keep doing it because they have other stuff 
going on in their lives. I'd bet the continuation ratio is similar for 
daily journaling or blogs or playing music or fitness programs.

I have thought about making my notes public, but by self-hosting, you have 
> to drive traffic to your site.


Eh. I haven't tried to drive traffic to my Zettelkasten, and I still get a 
few hundred visitors a month. Granted, I have a minor presence on the web 
and am able to link it in other places people might stumble upon it. But I 
think people underestimate how much traffic can just *show up* if you 
publish something worthwhile and share it when it makes sense. A few 
hundred visitors a month isn't a lot by web standards of course, but it's 
quite enough to make publishing worthwhile.
 

> I haven't really seen public gardens that facilitated conversations like 
> how social media can facilitate. But this may also be invisible if it 
> happens via private emails ofcourse. I also have the disadvantage that my 
> native language isn't English.
>

I haven't dived into this, but Webmention 
 is trying to enable links across 
digital gardens and blogs, which isn't quite the same thing but is pretty 
close.
 

> How many in this group are still using the Zettelkasten/digital gardening 
> method? For those who publish publically, has published your notes 
> digitally produced value for you so far?


I think it probably takes more than a year to really start seeing all the 
long-term consequences, but I know mine has at the least gotten people 
interested in my other work, and I've gotten a few interesting emails 
pointing me to new research topics. I'd guess I'm also more motivated to 
write and to make the content good when I know it can/will be public.

>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Digital gardening Tools

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Hi Odin,
 I think the below article describes the digital garden in a simple language

https://talk.macpowerusers.com/t/nerding-out-about-digital-gardens/19112

Social media like Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, and WhatsApp are categorized
as streams and are different!

I also think the writeup by Anne Laure is good here

https://www.mentalnodes.com/

In my opinion, the garden is not required to be public, but I can have it
privately!

In general I believe it may help you to better collect, organize and keep
your notes, ideas, etc.


Best wishes
Mohammad


On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 10:01 PM Odin  wrote:

> Thanks for sharing that github repo! It is a great resource on notetaking
> and notetaking-adjacent topics.
> It is interesting to see that a lot of the links to public gardens are
> about programming.
>
> It also appears a lot of the public gardens on the list aren´t maintained.
> Which is ironic considering the name. A garden requires continuous
> maintenance to be successful and to produce. Maybe the initial craze about
> Zettelkasten didn´t live up to the hype for some people?
>
> I have thought about making my notes public, but by self-hosting, you have
> to drive traffic to your site. I haven't really seen public gardens that
> facilitated conversations like how social media can facilitate. But this
> may also be invisible if it happens via private emails ofcourse. I also
> have the disadvantage that my native language isn't English.
>
> How many in this group are still using the Zettelkasten/digital gardening
> method? For those who publish publically, has published your notes
> digitally produced value for you so far?
> Op vrijdag 7 mei 2021 om 17:47:34 UTC+2 schreef Mohammad:
>
>> It is nice to see Tiddlywiki is on top of this list!
>>
>> https://github.com/MaggieAppleton/digital-gardeners
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
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[tw5] Re: Digital gardening Tools

[Odin]

Thanks for sharing that github repo! It is a great resource on notetaking 
and notetaking-adjacent topics.
It is interesting to see that a lot of the links to public gardens are 
about programming. 

It also appears a lot of the public gardens on the list aren´t maintained. 
Which is ironic considering the name. A garden requires continuous 
maintenance to be successful and to produce. Maybe the initial craze about 
Zettelkasten didn´t live up to the hype for some people? 

I have thought about making my notes public, but by self-hosting, you have 
to drive traffic to your site. I haven't really seen public gardens that 
facilitated conversations like how social media can facilitate. But this 
may also be invisible if it happens via private emails ofcourse. I also 
have the disadvantage that my native language isn't English.

How many in this group are still using the Zettelkasten/digital gardening 
method? For those who publish publically, has published your notes 
digitally produced value for you so far?
Op vrijdag 7 mei 2021 om 17:47:34 UTC+2 schreef Mohammad:

> It is nice to see Tiddlywiki is on top of this list!
>
> https://github.com/MaggieAppleton/digital-gardeners
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>

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