[tw5] Re: Embed wiki into Microsoft Teams (BOB)

2020-08-21 Thread Ste
I shall investigate!

On Friday, 21 August 2020 at 00:40:27 UTC+1 TW Tones wrote:

> Ste,
>
> Using a new sharepoint Wikipage library, I load a wiki with the .aspx 
> extension, I then enforced checkout on the wikifile (Whole of library 
> setting) and only the one person who has it checked out can save. This 
> method permits serial editing, one editor after another.
>
> I chose a Wikipage library because office 365 favours documents in such 
> libraries and loads them faster (anecdotal evidence) as they need to load 
> to interact like any webpage.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Thursday, 13 August 2020 10:19:35 UTC+10, Ste wrote:
>>
>> I know this answer kind of ignores the way your working with BOB but I'm 
>> just hosting single file wikis from Dropbox (droppages.com) (https!) and 
>> then inserting it into teams as a web page tab. I'm sure there must be a 
>> better way. 
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Embed wiki into Microsoft Teams (BOB)

2020-08-20 Thread TW Tones
The Wiki app is only the platform for the tiddlywiki file , once the file 
is there I share the link only.

Regards
Tones

On Friday, 21 August 2020 at 09:50:09 UTC+10 JD wrote:

> Aww shucks. Teams' native wiki app is so lackluster :( 
>
>
> On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 5:51:52 AM UTC+9, Ste wrote:
>>
>> No. It throws up a RSofE so it's view only. 
>>
>> On Thursday, 20 August 2020 at 04:07:23 UTC+1 JD wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Ste, I maybe hijacking this thread but I'd like to confirm before I 
>>> invest time in it. Will saving work in a wiki hosted by droppages, when I 
>>> insert it into Teams?
>>>
>>> -jd
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 13, 2020 at 9:19:35 AM UTC+9, Ste wrote:

 I know this answer kind of ignores the way your working with BOB but 
 I'm just hosting single file wikis from Dropbox (droppages.com) 
 (https!) and then inserting it into teams as a web page tab. I'm sure 
 there 
 must be a better way. 
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: Embed wiki into Microsoft Teams (BOB)

2020-08-20 Thread JD
Aww shucks. Teams' native wiki app is so lackluster :( 

On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 5:51:52 AM UTC+9, Ste wrote:
>
> No. It throws up a RSofE so it's view only. 
>
> On Thursday, 20 August 2020 at 04:07:23 UTC+1 JD wrote:
>
>> Hi Ste, I maybe hijacking this thread but I'd like to confirm before I 
>> invest time in it. Will saving work in a wiki hosted by droppages, when I 
>> insert it into Teams?
>>
>> -jd
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, August 13, 2020 at 9:19:35 AM UTC+9, Ste wrote:
>>>
>>> I know this answer kind of ignores the way your working with BOB but I'm 
>>> just hosting single file wikis from Dropbox (droppages.com) (https!) 
>>> and then inserting it into teams as a web page tab. I'm sure there must be 
>>> a better way. 
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Embed wiki into Microsoft Teams (BOB)

2020-08-20 Thread TW Tones
Ste,

Using a new sharepoint Wikipage library, I load a wiki with the .aspx 
extension, I then enforced checkout on the wikifile (Whole of library 
setting) and only the one person who has it checked out can save. This 
method permits serial editing, one editor after another.

I chose a Wikipage library because office 365 favours documents in such 
libraries and loads them faster (anecdotal evidence) as they need to load 
to interact like any webpage.

Regards
Tony

On Thursday, 13 August 2020 10:19:35 UTC+10, Ste wrote:
>
> I know this answer kind of ignores the way your working with BOB but I'm 
> just hosting single file wikis from Dropbox (droppages.com) (https!) and 
> then inserting it into teams as a web page tab. I'm sure there must be a 
> better way. 

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[tw5] Re: Embed wiki into Microsoft Teams (BOB)

2020-08-20 Thread Ste
No. It throws up a RSofE so it's view only. 

On Thursday, 20 August 2020 at 04:07:23 UTC+1 JD wrote:

> Hi Ste, I maybe hijacking this thread but I'd like to confirm before I 
> invest time in it. Will saving work in a wiki hosted by droppages, when I 
> insert it into Teams?
>
> -jd
>
>
> On Thursday, August 13, 2020 at 9:19:35 AM UTC+9, Ste wrote:
>>
>> I know this answer kind of ignores the way your working with BOB but I'm 
>> just hosting single file wikis from Dropbox (droppages.com) (https!) and 
>> then inserting it into teams as a web page tab. I'm sure there must be a 
>> better way. 
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Embed wiki into Microsoft Teams (BOB)

2020-08-19 Thread JD
Hi Ste, I maybe hijacking this thread but I'd like to confirm before I 
invest time in it. Will saving work in a wiki hosted by droppages, when I 
insert it into Teams?

-jd


On Thursday, August 13, 2020 at 9:19:35 AM UTC+9, Ste wrote:
>
> I know this answer kind of ignores the way your working with BOB but I'm 
> just hosting single file wikis from Dropbox (droppages.com) (https!) and 
> then inserting it into teams as a web page tab. I'm sure there must be a 
> better way. 

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[tw5] Re: Embed wiki into Microsoft Teams (BOB)

2020-08-17 Thread Jed Carty
I think that Bob will have trouble running in an Iframe because it tries to 
use the browsers current URL to determine the URL it needs to use to 
establish the websocket connection it uses.

I know pretty much nothing about how Microsoft Teams works, so how did your 
example fail?

I would expect it to load a wiki but never be able to make a websocket 
connection to the server.

Also, did you try adding http:// to the url so it would be src="http://
10.1.135.98:8080"? That can be important.

There is probably a way to make Bob work correctly inside an iframe, but I 
would have to do some research to find it. I doubt I will get to that any 
time soon.

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[tw5] Re: Embed wiki into Microsoft Teams (BOB)

2020-08-13 Thread Stobot
Thanks for the feedback so far guys, but it sounds like I emphasized the 
wrong thing here. Single file TiddlyWiki works out of the box in Teams or 
otherwise with no problem using the SharePoint ASPX thing - I probably 
shouldn't have mentioned ASPX as I probably turned off part of the audience 
that could help. That's pretty cool and lets you replace the built-in Wiki 
that Teams provides (which is terrible) with a TiddlyWiki. 

My problem is only that I have my whole team using a Wiki using BOB for 
it's simultaneous co-editing experience as our primary project management 
software, and it isn't exposed as a http: address. So I'm not looking to 
host it a different way than I am (I just set aside a dedicated computer on 
our local network to run BOB), but I need to "trick" Teams by giving it a 
url starting with http: I mentioned SharePoint because I know I can put any 
file on SharePoint and have access to it via a http: address, so my thought 
was to fake a .html file that solely contained an iframe to the 
10.1.#.#:8080 address as a kind of hack to bypass Team's url filter. 
Unfortunately web stuff and networking is probably my weakest area of 
knowledge.

I guess in thinking through it, this is more a question of how  
works, if it can be given a src="10.1.#.#:8080" type address (so far it 
appears no?) or if there are any similar ideas on how to make that work. 

Thanks!

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[tw5] Re: Embed wiki into Microsoft Teams (BOB)

2020-08-12 Thread Ste
I know this answer kind of ignores the way your working with BOB but I'm just 
hosting single file wikis from Dropbox (droppages.com) (https!) and then 
inserting it into teams as a web page tab. I'm sure there must be a better way. 

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[tw5] Re: Embed wiki into Microsoft Teams (BOB)

2020-08-12 Thread TW Tones
Stobot,

I have only installed single file wikis as aspx files on top of sharepoint, 
which is what teams is built on. The only way I know of to get a node 
server running in the Microsoft cloud would be to have it hosted inside the 
Microsoft azure CPU and Processing (like amazon hosting services). 
Specifically with node.

Once you have a single file wiki working and saving on SharePoint you 
should be able to iframe it as you can elsewhere.

Arguably you could use a synchronised one drive with your desktop/file 
server to store the the node tiddlywiki's but you still need a computer 
running the node server to serve the URL.

Happy to discuss further.

Tones



On Thursday, August 13, 2020 at 12:45:55 AM UTC+10, Stobot wrote:
>
> Hello folks,
>
> I'm trying to embed a wiki into Microsoft Teams and am stuck. Teams only 
> allows http:// addresses and I'm using BOB which is served via local ip 
> address like 10.1.#.#:8080. I thought I could get away with this if I made 
> a near-empty .aspx file (I have access to host files on SharePoint) and 
> then iframe the wiki in that way - but maybe you can't iframe in an address 
> like BOB provides either? Any thoughts?
>
> What I hoped would work - saved as a .aspx file, tried in FireFox
> 
> 
> 
>  >
> 
> 
>

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