[tw5] Re: Re-imaging tag pills working prototype macros

[Ste Wilson]

NOOO 

problem 

Your a busy twiddler :)

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[tw5] Re: Re-imaging tag pills working prototype macros

[TW Tones]

Update Birth;

Given my recent posts on autonomous fields/tags and the codeTiddler. I am 
delaying fixing this, sorry.

Regards
Tonyt

On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 11:37:33 PM UTC+10, TW Tones wrote:
>
> Birthe,
>
> Would you believe, you just revealed something about me and revealing 
> things? 
>
> I have always favoured list filters over using reveal, for some reason in 
> my early days of TW5, I tend only resort to it for comparisons, 
> which recent filters overcome anyway.
>
> Clearly I need to resort to reveal and building a fresh popup rather than 
> stealing the existing tag pill macro.
>
> I will look in to it Tomorrow +12hrs.
> Thanks again for your kind help and observations skills (of my blabber).
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 10:04:12 PM UTC+10, Birthe C wrote:
>>
>> TW Tones,
>>
>> I am wondering, because I can't make it work either. But isn't it 
>> supposed to https://tiddlywiki.com/#RevealWidget
>>
>> position: The position used for the popup when the type is *popup*. Can 
>> be *left*, *above*, *aboveright*, *right*, *belowleft* or *below*
>>
>> Birthe
>>
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Re-imaging tag pills working prototype macros

[TW Tones]

Birthe,

Would you believe, you just revealed something about me and revealing 
things? 

I have always favoured list filters over using reveal, for some reason in 
my early days of TW5, I tend only resort to it for comparisons, 
which recent filters overcome anyway.

Clearly I need to resort to reveal and building a fresh popup rather than 
stealing the existing tag pill macro.

I will look in to it Tomorrow +12hrs.
Thanks again for your kind help and observations skills (of my blabber).

Regards
Tony

On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 10:04:12 PM UTC+10, Birthe C wrote:
>
> TW Tones,
>
> I am wondering, because I can't make it work either. But isn't it supposed 
> to https://tiddlywiki.com/#RevealWidget
>
> position: The position used for the popup when the type is *popup*. Can 
> be *left*, *above*, *aboveright*, *right*, *belowleft* or *below*
>
> Birthe
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Re-imaging tag pills working prototype macros

[Birthe C]

TW Tones,

I am wondering, because I can't make it work either. But isn't it supposed 
to https://tiddlywiki.com/#RevealWidget

position: The position used for the popup when the type is *popup*. Can be 
*left*, *above*, *aboveright*, *right*, *belowleft* or *below*

Birthe


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[tw5] Re: Re-imaging tag pills working prototype macros

[TW Tones]

Ste

Good idea but I do not know how to do it. I have tried in the past but keep the 
sidebar open instead.

Tony

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[tw5] Re: Re-imaging tag pills working prototype macros

[Ste Wilson]

Hi Tony,

Just a small thing..

When clicking on the right pill, the menu comes out down and right, and, 
especially on mobile, this takes it off-screen.  Could it come down and 
left?

On Wednesday, 3 June 2020 12:00:08 UTC+1, TW Tones wrote:
>
> Your welcome ste.
>
> If you it inspires you with a "what if" let me know.
>
> tony
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Re-imaging tag pills working prototype macros

[TonyM]

Your welcome ste.

If you it inspires you with a "what if" let me know.

tony

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[tw5] Re: Re-imaging tag pills working prototype macros

[Ste Wilson]

A :)
Sounds interesting.

Thanks for this new tool anyway!  I shall be keeping it my wiki.

Stephen

On Wednesday, 3 June 2020 11:33:22 UTC+1, TonyM wrote:
>
> Are.
>
> It to place buttons like any tool bar. Perhaps something to change status 
> etc...
>
> Try tagging a view template button with toolbar2 tag.
>
> I will be making more tools that can use this space but any button should 
> work there. I thought of putting the tag pill I created in the subtitle but 
> that needs a core tiddler to be edited.
>
> I am thinking of providing an alternative pill that allows you to tag the 
> current tiddler from a set like status etc...
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Re-imaging tag pills working prototype macros

[TonyM]

Are.

It to place buttons like any tool bar. Perhaps something to change status etc...

Try tagging a view template button with toolbar2 tag.

I will be making more tools that can use this space but any button should work 
there. I thought of putting the tag pill I created in the subtitle but that 
needs a core tiddler to be edited.

I am thinking of providing an alternative pill that allows you to tag the 
current tiddler from a set like status etc...

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] Re: Re-imaging tag pills working prototype macros

[TonyM]

Ste

It may appear redundant but its quite different in some ways for example if you 
have many tags you do not have to look for it. And typically there is no tag 
pill for the tiddler you are looking at.

It will only appear if other tiddlers have the current one as a tag. Ed it it a 
tag pill for the current tiddler, clicking of tableofcontents show the siblings 
of the current not its children.

Regards
Tony

But the placement off the special tag on the right is a demonstration the 
second toolbar.

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[tw5] Re: Re-imaging tag pills working prototype macros

[Ste Wilson]

On playing a little morethe right hand tag doesn't appear in just table 
of content tiddlerswhich makes it more useful, but doesn't appear in 
all tiddlersshould it, or does it only appear in tiddlers which have 
other tiddler tagged with them?  Interesting :)
It's looking like it will make my wiki a whole lot quicker to navigate!

Will keep playing :D  

On Wednesday, 3 June 2020 07:19:55 UTC+1, TonyM wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
> If you drop the attached json on a tiddlywiki, *perhaps tiddlywiki.com 
> * you will install a number of proto-type 
> solutions for tag pills I have developed. 
> They are all macros so no save and reload needed
>
> You can use them as is, modify them to you own taste or provide feedback 
> before I release published versions. 
>
>- All macros have the PSaT brand as that is my business "People, 
>Systems and Things".
>- There is no licencing, they free to use without acknowledgement, 
>
>
> What does it include?
>
>- *Open All Tagged *- A macro that places an Option on tag pills to 
>Open all Tiddlers so tagged
>- *Close All Tagged* - A macro that places an Option on tag pills to 
>Close all Tiddlers so tagged
>- *Copy tag to clipboard* - A macro that places an Option on tag pills 
>to copy the tagname to the clipboard
>- *ViewToolBar2* use the tag $:/tags/ViewToolbar2 on tiddlers to add 
>them to an additional toolbar on tiddlers using the view template
>- A *tagging here* icon
>   - Either using one of the tiddlers as a template in your tiddlers, 
>   - or taggit with $:/tags/ViewToolbar2
>  - A tag Icon appears, below your ViewToolbar if the current 
>  tiddler is so tagged
>  - From here you can make use of the various tag pill additions 
>  above
>  - Use this to quickly navigate to children tagged with this 
>  tiddler.
>   - The tag will respond to the current tiddlers icon and color field
>   - People may make use of the image $:/PSaT/tagging-here/images/tag 
>   for their own use
>
> *Please provide feedback on the individual items or this as a package as a 
> whole.*
>
> This may give you all some hints to a secret development, I am planning 
> for tiddlywiki, I hope will be of revolutionary nature, who knows. 
> I will keep it secret for now but feedback on this facility here will help 
> me develop it further, because I plan to leverage these tools
>
>
> *Some Questions I have;*
>
>- How do I make the dropdown open to the left, rather than right of 
>where I click?
>   - If the side bar is closed this is a little awkward to use
>- Would viewtoolbar2 make sense as a part of the standard distribution?
>- Does viewtoolbar2 have any unwanted side effects?
>
> Thanks in advance, but I hope you find this useful in its own right.
>
> Regards
> TonyM
>

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[tw5] Re: Re-imaging tag pills working prototype macros

[Ste Wilson]

Hi Tony, 
Yes, you can't drag things into a wiki on chrome.  It's not the end of the 
world, the import button can be used, but it's not quite as smoth :)
On the other hand, I've recklessly added your macros to my wiki o have a 
play with!

So quick bit of feed back!

For me the tag that appears on the right in toddlers tagged Table of 
Contents seems a little redundant as the functionality is provided by the 
clicking on the tag pill table of contents, and anything I have tagged with 
that is a list of the toddlers tagged with that toddler, so the right tag 
does not provide any additional functionality of info!

Everything else looks good!

On Wednesday, 3 June 2020 10:06:54 UTC+1, TonyM wrote:
>
> Ste,
>
> Do you mean my workflow for chrome?
>
> I wonder out the original solution works on mobile too?
>
> I expect I will need the tag pill to open left or centre, perhaps a modal 
> instead would be needed.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 7:04:02 PM UTC+10, Ste Wilson wrote:
>>
>> Very smooth.unless you're on mobile...
>>
>> On Wednesday, 3 June 2020 09:13:53 UTC+1, TonyM wrote:
>>>
>>> Sure,
>>>
>>> Fine with me, its only prototype. And I don't have a rapid demo and host 
>>> setup yet available.
>>>
>>> Actually the reason why I did not think this was a barrier is because of 
>>> this new workflow.
>>>
>>>- In Chrome click download
>>>- Change the tab to tiddlywiki.com
>>>- The json file appears in the browser tray at the bottom
>>>- Drag the downloaded file and Drop it on tiddlywiki
>>>- This works to any wiki out of the box, no new tab needed, very 
>>>smooth.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for the input.
>>>
>>> Tony
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 4:58:15 PM UTC+10, Saq Imtiaz wrote:

 Hi Tony,

 Just a suggestion: I think you will get more feedback if you lower the 
 barrier to entry by posting a link to a working demo or attach a 
 tiddlywiki 
 file, even if it is just a copy of TiddlyWiki.com with your tiddlers added.

 Cheers,
 Saq

 On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 8:19:55 AM UTC+2, TonyM wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
> If you drop the attached json on a tiddlywiki, *perhaps 
> tiddlywiki.com * you will install a number of 
> proto-type solutions for tag pills I have developed. 
> They are all macros so no save and reload needed
>
> You can use them as is, modify them to you own taste or provide 
> feedback before I release published versions. 
>
>- All macros have the PSaT brand as that is my business "People, 
>Systems and Things".
>- There is no licencing, they free to use without acknowledgement, 
>
>
> What does it include?
>
>- *Open All Tagged *- A macro that places an Option on tag pills 
>to Open all Tiddlers so tagged
>- *Close All Tagged* - A macro that places an Option on tag pills 
>to Close all Tiddlers so tagged
>- *Copy tag to clipboard* - A macro that places an Option on tag 
>pills to copy the tagname to the clipboard
>- *ViewToolBar2* use the tag $:/tags/ViewToolbar2 on tiddlers to 
>add them to an additional toolbar on tiddlers using the view template
>- A *tagging here* icon
>   - Either using one of the tiddlers as a template in your 
>   tiddlers, 
>   - or taggit with $:/tags/ViewToolbar2
>  - A tag Icon appears, below your ViewToolbar if the current 
>  tiddler is so tagged
>  - From here you can make use of the various tag pill 
>  additions above
>  - Use this to quickly navigate to children tagged with this 
>  tiddler.
>   - The tag will respond to the current tiddlers icon and color 
>   field
>   - People may make use of the image $:/PSaT/tagging-here/images/tag 
>   for their own use
>
> *Please provide feedback on the individual items or this as a package 
> as a whole.*
>
> This may give you all some hints to a secret development, I am 
> planning for tiddlywiki, I hope will be of revolutionary nature, who 
> knows. 
> I will keep it secret for now but feedback on this facility here will 
> help me develop it further, because I plan to leverage these tools
>
>
> *Some Questions I have;*
>
>- How do I make the dropdown open to the left, rather than right 
>of where I click?
>   - If the side bar is closed this is a little awkward to use
>- Would viewtoolbar2 make sense as a part of the standard 
>distribution?
>- Does viewtoolbar2 have any unwanted side effects?
>
> Thanks in advance, but I hope you find this useful in its own right.
>
> Regards
> TonyM
>


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[tw5] Re: Re-imaging tag pills working prototype macros

[TonyM]

Ste,

Do you mean my workflow for chrome?

I wonder out the original solution works on mobile too?

I expect I will need the tag pill to open left or centre, perhaps a modal 
instead would be needed.

Regards
Tony

On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 7:04:02 PM UTC+10, Ste Wilson wrote:
>
> Very smooth.unless you're on mobile...
>
> On Wednesday, 3 June 2020 09:13:53 UTC+1, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Sure,
>>
>> Fine with me, its only prototype. And I don't have a rapid demo and host 
>> setup yet available.
>>
>> Actually the reason why I did not think this was a barrier is because of 
>> this new workflow.
>>
>>- In Chrome click download
>>- Change the tab to tiddlywiki.com
>>- The json file appears in the browser tray at the bottom
>>- Drag the downloaded file and Drop it on tiddlywiki
>>- This works to any wiki out of the box, no new tab needed, very 
>>smooth.
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the input.
>>
>> Tony
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 4:58:15 PM UTC+10, Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Tony,
>>>
>>> Just a suggestion: I think you will get more feedback if you lower the 
>>> barrier to entry by posting a link to a working demo or attach a tiddlywiki 
>>> file, even if it is just a copy of TiddlyWiki.com with your tiddlers added.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Saq
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 8:19:55 AM UTC+2, TonyM wrote:

 Folks,

 If you drop the attached json on a tiddlywiki, *perhaps tiddlywiki.com 
 * you will install a number of proto-type 
 solutions for tag pills I have developed. 
 They are all macros so no save and reload needed

 You can use them as is, modify them to you own taste or provide 
 feedback before I release published versions. 

- All macros have the PSaT brand as that is my business "People, 
Systems and Things".
- There is no licencing, they free to use without acknowledgement, 


 What does it include?

- *Open All Tagged *- A macro that places an Option on tag pills to 
Open all Tiddlers so tagged
- *Close All Tagged* - A macro that places an Option on tag pills 
to Close all Tiddlers so tagged
- *Copy tag to clipboard* - A macro that places an Option on tag 
pills to copy the tagname to the clipboard
- *ViewToolBar2* use the tag $:/tags/ViewToolbar2 on tiddlers to 
add them to an additional toolbar on tiddlers using the view template
- A *tagging here* icon
   - Either using one of the tiddlers as a template in your 
   tiddlers, 
   - or taggit with $:/tags/ViewToolbar2
  - A tag Icon appears, below your ViewToolbar if the current 
  tiddler is so tagged
  - From here you can make use of the various tag pill 
  additions above
  - Use this to quickly navigate to children tagged with this 
  tiddler.
   - The tag will respond to the current tiddlers icon and color 
   field
   - People may make use of the image $:/PSaT/tagging-here/images/tag 
   for their own use

 *Please provide feedback on the individual items or this as a package 
 as a whole.*

 This may give you all some hints to a secret development, I am planning 
 for tiddlywiki, I hope will be of revolutionary nature, who knows. 
 I will keep it secret for now but feedback on this facility here will 
 help me develop it further, because I plan to leverage these tools


 *Some Questions I have;*

- How do I make the dropdown open to the left, rather than right of 
where I click?
   - If the side bar is closed this is a little awkward to use
- Would viewtoolbar2 make sense as a part of the standard 
distribution?
- Does viewtoolbar2 have any unwanted side effects?

 Thanks in advance, but I hope you find this useful in its own right.

 Regards
 TonyM

>>>

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[tw5] Re: Re-imaging tag pills working prototype macros

[Ste Wilson]

Very smooth.unless you're on mobile...

On Wednesday, 3 June 2020 09:13:53 UTC+1, TonyM wrote:
>
> Sure,
>
> Fine with me, its only prototype. And I don't have a rapid demo and host 
> setup yet available.
>
> Actually the reason why I did not think this was a barrier is because of 
> this new workflow.
>
>- In Chrome click download
>- Change the tab to tiddlywiki.com
>- The json file appears in the browser tray at the bottom
>- Drag the downloaded file and Drop it on tiddlywiki
>- This works to any wiki out of the box, no new tab needed, very 
>smooth.
>
>
> Thanks for the input.
>
> Tony
>
> On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 4:58:15 PM UTC+10, Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>>
>> Hi Tony,
>>
>> Just a suggestion: I think you will get more feedback if you lower the 
>> barrier to entry by posting a link to a working demo or attach a tiddlywiki 
>> file, even if it is just a copy of TiddlyWiki.com with your tiddlers added.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Saq
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 8:19:55 AM UTC+2, TonyM wrote:
>>>
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>> If you drop the attached json on a tiddlywiki, *perhaps tiddlywiki.com 
>>> * you will install a number of proto-type 
>>> solutions for tag pills I have developed. 
>>> They are all macros so no save and reload needed
>>>
>>> You can use them as is, modify them to you own taste or provide feedback 
>>> before I release published versions. 
>>>
>>>- All macros have the PSaT brand as that is my business "People, 
>>>Systems and Things".
>>>- There is no licencing, they free to use without acknowledgement, 
>>>
>>>
>>> What does it include?
>>>
>>>- *Open All Tagged *- A macro that places an Option on tag pills to 
>>>Open all Tiddlers so tagged
>>>- *Close All Tagged* - A macro that places an Option on tag pills to 
>>>Close all Tiddlers so tagged
>>>- *Copy tag to clipboard* - A macro that places an Option on tag 
>>>pills to copy the tagname to the clipboard
>>>- *ViewToolBar2* use the tag $:/tags/ViewToolbar2 on tiddlers to add 
>>>them to an additional toolbar on tiddlers using the view template
>>>- A *tagging here* icon
>>>   - Either using one of the tiddlers as a template in your 
>>>   tiddlers, 
>>>   - or taggit with $:/tags/ViewToolbar2
>>>  - A tag Icon appears, below your ViewToolbar if the current 
>>>  tiddler is so tagged
>>>  - From here you can make use of the various tag pill additions 
>>>  above
>>>  - Use this to quickly navigate to children tagged with this 
>>>  tiddler.
>>>   - The tag will respond to the current tiddlers icon and color 
>>>   field
>>>   - People may make use of the image $:/PSaT/tagging-here/images/tag 
>>>   for their own use
>>>
>>> *Please provide feedback on the individual items or this as a package as 
>>> a whole.*
>>>
>>> This may give you all some hints to a secret development, I am planning 
>>> for tiddlywiki, I hope will be of revolutionary nature, who knows. 
>>> I will keep it secret for now but feedback on this facility here will 
>>> help me develop it further, because I plan to leverage these tools
>>>
>>>
>>> *Some Questions I have;*
>>>
>>>- How do I make the dropdown open to the left, rather than right of 
>>>where I click?
>>>   - If the side bar is closed this is a little awkward to use
>>>- Would viewtoolbar2 make sense as a part of the standard 
>>>distribution?
>>>- Does viewtoolbar2 have any unwanted side effects?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance, but I hope you find this useful in its own right.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> TonyM
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Re-imaging tag pills working prototype macros

[TonyM]

Sure,

Fine with me, its only prototype. And I don't have a rapid demo and host 
setup yet available.

Actually the reason why I did not think this was a barrier is because of 
this new workflow.

   - In Chrome click download
   - Change the tab to tiddlywiki.com
   - The json file appears in the browser tray at the bottom
   - Drag the downloaded file and Drop it on tiddlywiki
   - This works to any wiki out of the box, no new tab needed, very smooth.


Thanks for the input.

Tony

On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 4:58:15 PM UTC+10, Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>
> Hi Tony,
>
> Just a suggestion: I think you will get more feedback if you lower the 
> barrier to entry by posting a link to a working demo or attach a tiddlywiki 
> file, even if it is just a copy of TiddlyWiki.com with your tiddlers added.
>
> Cheers,
> Saq
>
> On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 8:19:55 AM UTC+2, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Folks,
>>
>> If you drop the attached json on a tiddlywiki, *perhaps tiddlywiki.com 
>> * you will install a number of proto-type 
>> solutions for tag pills I have developed. 
>> They are all macros so no save and reload needed
>>
>> You can use them as is, modify them to you own taste or provide feedback 
>> before I release published versions. 
>>
>>- All macros have the PSaT brand as that is my business "People, 
>>Systems and Things".
>>- There is no licencing, they free to use without acknowledgement, 
>>
>>
>> What does it include?
>>
>>- *Open All Tagged *- A macro that places an Option on tag pills to 
>>Open all Tiddlers so tagged
>>- *Close All Tagged* - A macro that places an Option on tag pills to 
>>Close all Tiddlers so tagged
>>- *Copy tag to clipboard* - A macro that places an Option on tag 
>>pills to copy the tagname to the clipboard
>>- *ViewToolBar2* use the tag $:/tags/ViewToolbar2 on tiddlers to add 
>>them to an additional toolbar on tiddlers using the view template
>>- A *tagging here* icon
>>   - Either using one of the tiddlers as a template in your tiddlers, 
>>   - or taggit with $:/tags/ViewToolbar2
>>  - A tag Icon appears, below your ViewToolbar if the current 
>>  tiddler is so tagged
>>  - From here you can make use of the various tag pill additions 
>>  above
>>  - Use this to quickly navigate to children tagged with this 
>>  tiddler.
>>   - The tag will respond to the current tiddlers icon and color field
>>   - People may make use of the image $:/PSaT/tagging-here/images/tag 
>>   for their own use
>>
>> *Please provide feedback on the individual items or this as a package as 
>> a whole.*
>>
>> This may give you all some hints to a secret development, I am planning 
>> for tiddlywiki, I hope will be of revolutionary nature, who knows. 
>> I will keep it secret for now but feedback on this facility here will 
>> help me develop it further, because I plan to leverage these tools
>>
>>
>> *Some Questions I have;*
>>
>>- How do I make the dropdown open to the left, rather than right of 
>>where I click?
>>   - If the side bar is closed this is a little awkward to use
>>- Would viewtoolbar2 make sense as a part of the standard 
>>distribution?
>>- Does viewtoolbar2 have any unwanted side effects?
>>
>> Thanks in advance, but I hope you find this useful in its own right.
>>
>> Regards
>> TonyM
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Re-imaging tag pills working prototype macros

[Saq Imtiaz]

Hi Tony,

Just a suggestion: I think you will get more feedback if you lower the 
barrier to entry by posting a link to a working demo or attach a tiddlywiki 
file, even if it is just a copy of TiddlyWiki.com with your tiddlers added.

Cheers,
Saq

On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 8:19:55 AM UTC+2, TonyM wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
> If you drop the attached json on a tiddlywiki, *perhaps tiddlywiki.com 
> * you will install a number of proto-type 
> solutions for tag pills I have developed. 
> They are all macros so no save and reload needed
>
> You can use them as is, modify them to you own taste or provide feedback 
> before I release published versions. 
>
>- All macros have the PSaT brand as that is my business "People, 
>Systems and Things".
>- There is no licencing, they free to use without acknowledgement, 
>
>
> What does it include?
>
>- *Open All Tagged *- A macro that places an Option on tag pills to 
>Open all Tiddlers so tagged
>- *Close All Tagged* - A macro that places an Option on tag pills to 
>Close all Tiddlers so tagged
>- *Copy tag to clipboard* - A macro that places an Option on tag pills 
>to copy the tagname to the clipboard
>- *ViewToolBar2* use the tag $:/tags/ViewToolbar2 on tiddlers to add 
>them to an additional toolbar on tiddlers using the view template
>- A *tagging here* icon
>   - Either using one of the tiddlers as a template in your tiddlers, 
>   - or taggit with $:/tags/ViewToolbar2
>  - A tag Icon appears, below your ViewToolbar if the current 
>  tiddler is so tagged
>  - From here you can make use of the various tag pill additions 
>  above
>  - Use this to quickly navigate to children tagged with this 
>  tiddler.
>   - The tag will respond to the current tiddlers icon and color field
>   - People may make use of the image $:/PSaT/tagging-here/images/tag 
>   for their own use
>
> *Please provide feedback on the individual items or this as a package as a 
> whole.*
>
> This may give you all some hints to a secret development, I am planning 
> for tiddlywiki, I hope will be of revolutionary nature, who knows. 
> I will keep it secret for now but feedback on this facility here will help 
> me develop it further, because I plan to leverage these tools
>
>
> *Some Questions I have;*
>
>- How do I make the dropdown open to the left, rather than right of 
>where I click?
>   - If the side bar is closed this is a little awkward to use
>- Would viewtoolbar2 make sense as a part of the standard distribution?
>- Does viewtoolbar2 have any unwanted side effects?
>
> Thanks in advance, but I hope you find this useful in its own right.
>
> Regards
> TonyM
>

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