[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki Use case: Presenting collection of publication records by topics

[Adrian Kee]

Thanks, Alfonso. 

On Thursday, March 28, 2019 at 10:35:59 PM UTC+8, Alfonso Arciniega wrote:
>
> Hi Adrian,
>
> Good stuff. As I am not a programmer, my comments are on the format of the 
> content.
>
> There is a lot of information in the TW. May I suggest putting navigation 
> tools/buttons everywhere? like going back, closing/expanding/minimizing 
> tiddlers, etc. Moreover, the Contents may separate the important parts of 
> the wiki with the less related important and related to the site part (they 
> are all together now); so the reader focus on the main content, what the TW 
> wants to communicate. For example, numbers 4, 6, 7,8, and 9 may go into one 
> number only under "About this Research".
>
> Cheers,
>
> Alfonso
>

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki Use case: Presenting collection of publication records by topics

[passingby]

On Thursday, March 28, 2019 at 1:40:09 AM UTC-7, Adrian Kee wrote:
>
> Current theme: Snow White
>
> • *Snow White* Emphasises individual tiddlers 
> 
>
>
>  Ah, I see now its the color palette that is different. You've chosen 
Contrast Light palette. Looks good.

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki Use case: Presenting collection of publication records by topics

[Alfonso Arciniega]

One more thing: using a link as subtitle may not be the more elegant way...

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki Use case: Presenting collection of publication records by topics

[Alfonso Arciniega]

Hi Adrian,

Good stuff. As I am not a programmer, my comments are on the format of the 
content.

There is a lot of information in the TW. May I suggest putting navigation 
tools/buttons everywhere? like going back, closing/expanding/minimizing 
tiddlers, etc. Moreover, the Contents may separate the important parts of 
the wiki with the less related important and related to the site part (they 
are all together now); so the reader focus on the main content, what the TW 
wants to communicate. For example, numbers 4, 6, 7,8, and 9 may go into one 
number only under "About this Research".

Cheers,

Alfonso

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki Use case: Presenting collection of publication records by topics

[Adrian Kee]

Current theme: Snow White

• *Snow White* Emphasises individual tiddlers 



On Thursday, March 28, 2019 at 2:36:51 PM UTC+8, passingby wrote:
>
> Hello Adrian,
>
> What theme have you used on your TW?
>
> -passingby
>
> On Saturday, March 9, 2019 at 3:49:35 PM UTC-8, Adrian Kee wrote:
>>
>> Dear TiddlyWiki folks,
>>
>> In one of my recent scientific paper, I used TiddlyWiki to present a 
>> collection of publication records in terms of topics.  See tentative link 
>> .
>>
>> I like to hear from fellow TiddlyWiki users on possible ways it can be 
>> improved before I finalized the file for posterity (which can be real 
>> soon). 
>>
>> I also need some help in setting it up for others to find it easily 
>> through Google search. 
>>
>> All comments welcomed. Thanks in advance.
>>
>> adrian :)
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki Use case: Presenting collection of publication records by topics

[passingby]

Hello Adrian,

What theme have you used on your TW?

-passingby

On Saturday, March 9, 2019 at 3:49:35 PM UTC-8, Adrian Kee wrote:
>
> Dear TiddlyWiki folks,
>
> In one of my recent scientific paper, I used TiddlyWiki to present a 
> collection of publication records in terms of topics.  See tentative link 
> .
>
> I like to hear from fellow TiddlyWiki users on possible ways it can be 
> improved before I finalized the file for posterity (which can be real 
> soon). 
>
> I also need some help in setting it up for others to find it easily 
> through Google search. 
>
> All comments welcomed. Thanks in advance.
>
> adrian :)
>

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki Use case: Presenting collection of publication records by topics

[Adrian Kee]

Thanks for the comments and suggestions, Tony. 

On Monday, March 11, 2019 at 8:06:07 AM UTC+8, TonyM wrote:
>
> Adrian,
>
> Thanks for sharing, it's content is interesting one its own. What you have 
> done is I imaging repeatable for may subjects and research. If you could 
> generalise it wit would be great, then publish as an edition. The first 
> release could simply be your existing one less the content, perhaps with a 
> few descriptive tiddlers. Often once you publish and others use an edition 
> conversations trike up in the community and new ideas crop up for inclusion 
> or simplification.
>
> Viva la Community.
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Sunday, March 10, 2019 at 10:49:35 AM UTC+11, Adrian Kee wrote:
>>
>> Dear TiddlyWiki folks,
>>
>> In one of my recent scientific paper, I used TiddlyWiki to present a 
>> collection of publication records in terms of topics.  See tentative link 
>> .
>>
>> I like to hear from fellow TiddlyWiki users on possible ways it can be 
>> improved before I finalized the file for posterity (which can be real 
>> soon). 
>>
>> I also need some help in setting it up for others to find it easily 
>> through Google search. 
>>
>> All comments welcomed. Thanks in advance.
>>
>> adrian :)
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki Use case: Presenting collection of publication records by topics

[Adrian Kee]

Thanks for the feedback, Watt. 

On Monday, March 11, 2019 at 6:28:03 AM UTC+8, Watt wrote:
>
> Thanks for posting this Adrian. On the TW side I agree with S.S. - 
> breaking everything down into smaller units might be another possible 
> refinement. For example a straight bibliographic list, in one place, of all 
> the sources that you have finally used and classified would be interesting. 
> It might be easier to produce from sources broken down to individual 
> tiddler units and fields. (But maybe more complicated and time-consuming to 
> manage, cut and paste gets the job done too.)
> From a reader point of view I'd be interested to read a brief description 
> of probabilistic topic modelling and your methodology. Thanks again, it's a 
> very interesting resource.

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki Use case: Presenting collection of publication records by topics

[TonyM]

Adrian,

Thanks for sharing, it's content is interesting one its own. What you have 
done is I imaging repeatable for may subjects and research. If you could 
generalise it wit would be great, then publish as an edition. The first 
release could simply be your existing one less the content, perhaps with a 
few descriptive tiddlers. Often once you publish and others use an edition 
conversations trike up in the community and new ideas crop up for inclusion 
or simplification.

Viva la Community.
Regards
Tony

On Sunday, March 10, 2019 at 10:49:35 AM UTC+11, Adrian Kee wrote:
>
> Dear TiddlyWiki folks,
>
> In one of my recent scientific paper, I used TiddlyWiki to present a 
> collection of publication records in terms of topics.  See tentative link 
> .
>
> I like to hear from fellow TiddlyWiki users on possible ways it can be 
> improved before I finalized the file for posterity (which can be real 
> soon). 
>
> I also need some help in setting it up for others to find it easily 
> through Google search. 
>
> All comments welcomed. Thanks in advance.
>
> adrian :)
>

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki Use case: Presenting collection of publication records by topics

[Watt]

Thanks for posting this Adrian. On the TW side I agree with S.S. - breaking 
everything down into smaller units might be another possible refinement. For 
example a straight bibliographic list, in one place, of all the sources that 
you have finally used and classified would be interesting. It might be easier 
to produce from sources broken down to individual tiddler units and fields. 
(But maybe more complicated and time-consuming to manage, cut and paste gets 
the job done too.)
>From a reader point of view I'd be interested to read a brief description of 
>probabilistic topic modelling and your methodology. Thanks again, it's a very 
>interesting resource.

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki Use case: Presenting collection of publication records by topics

[Adrian Kee]

Dear S. S.
Thanks for all the tips. 
The bit on tagging AUTHORS is especially insightful. 
thanks.
adrian 
 

On Sunday, March 10, 2019 at 1:12:15 PM UTC+8, S. S. wrote:
>
> Adrian,
>
> There is a lot of information in that collection! 
>
> A small input I can give is in these two tiddlers: 4. FAQ about using this 
> file (TiddlyWiki) , 5. Personal notes/Collections
> Change the word "tick" to either: {{$:/core/images/save-button}} save wiki 
> button /or/ {{$:/core/ui/Buttons/save-wiki}} save wiki button
>
> If you look at https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/ you will see that at 
> the bottom of every tiddler, there is an ability to add a comment. On that 
> pre-release website open the Control Panel, Plugins - and read about the 
> *Comments* plugin. It may be useful for those who download and use your 
> tiddlywiki.
>
> On a matter of structure, looking at how much detail there is, and how 
> methodically it is laid out, I imagine you have this information in a 
> spreadsheet/database.
>
> I realize that the below is not going to be something you will do at this 
> stage of your work - but it is an idea for when this exercise is done again 
> from scratch.
>
> Since I also keep notes of papers/publications with classifications and 
> summaries/excerpts - I separate each one in a different tiddler. then 
> present it using data that links them.
>
> For example you have the paper: Miller, C.J., & Brooker, B. (2017). 
> Mindfulness programming for parents and teachers of children with ADHD.
> It is listed under two categories: Attention deficit hyperactivity 
> disorder (ADHD) *AND* Parent-children
> How would one know this easily?
>
> The below is similar to how I keep my notes.
>
> I have a tiddler tagged *author* for EACH author, so I would have one for 
> author Miller *AND* another for author Brooker - example:
>
> title: Brianne A. Brooker
> caption: Brooker, B.
> description: Department of Psychology, University of Windsor, 
> Canada.^^(2017)^^
> tags: author psychology
>
> Then I would have a tiddler for their joint publication.
> title: Mindfulness programming for parents and teachers of children with 
> ADHD
> date: 2017
> authors: [[Carlin J. Miller]] [[Brianne A. Brooker]]
> tags:  publication
> doi: 10.1016/j.ctcp.2017.05.015
> description: To show pilot data from an investigation of the outcomes of a 
> purpose-built mindfulness training for parents and teachers of children 
> with ADHD
> caption: Mindfulness programming for parents and teachers of children with 
> ADHD. //Complementary Therapies in Clinical Practice//
>
> These three tiddlers could be re-used anywhere, any time, in any context. 
> Also the bodies (text fields) of the tiddlers can easily list anything that 
> references them (which answers the question above as to how would one 
> easily know a singe publication was listed in different categories).
>
> The next would be your actual reference entry as you have put together in 
> your project - this is what will be listed in each category.
>
> You would need a tiddler for the entry that shows the specific part of 
> this publication you are referring to, in this case: *28, 108-115*
> For this project I would choose some naming style of entries based on: 
> Mindfulness Topic Modeling
> title: MTM some naming scheme 0001
> source: Mindfulness programming for parents and teachers of children with 
> ADHD
> reference: 28, 108-115
> tags: ADHD Parent-children
>
> You now have all the pieces needed to build the entry and list it in the 
> right categories: ADHD *&* Parent-children
> Miller, C.J., & Brooker, B. (2017). Mindfulness programming for parents 
> and teachers of children with ADHD. *Complementary Therapies in Clinical 
> Practice, 28*, 108-115. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.ctcp.2017.05.015
>
> Cheers!
>
> On Sunday, March 10, 2019 at 6:49:35 AM UTC+7, Adrian Kee wrote:
>>
>> Dear TiddlyWiki folks,
>>
>> In one of my recent scientific paper, I used TiddlyWiki to present a 
>> collection of publication records in terms of topics.  See tentative link 
>> .
>>
>> I like to hear from fellow TiddlyWiki users on possible ways it can be 
>> improved before I finalized the file for posterity (which can be real 
>> soon). 
>>
>> I also need some help in setting it up for others to find it easily 
>> through Google search. 
>>
>> All comments welcomed. Thanks in advance.
>>
>> adrian :)
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki Use case: Presenting collection of publication records by topics

[Adrian Kee]

Thanks for your comments, Mohammad. 

yes... there was a fair bit of copying and pasting... 

i. I did not use the BibTeX plugin for this, but I will keep that in mind 
for the future. 
ii. The suggestion is a very sound one, which will . But I was also 
considering how others may want to copy and paste the references with 
ease.  
 
Much appreciated!


On Sunday, March 10, 2019 at 11:41:22 AM UTC+8, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Hi Adrian,
>  Great work! 
>
> Minor comments
> i.
> I see a lot of publication has been used and listed in different tiddlers, 
> my question is, did you typed all of these references manually or
> you have used a reference manager to do that?
>
> As you know, BibTeX plugin is an official one can help to import the 
> references from bibtex library and website like
> ScienceDirect has the possibility to export and save searched articles 
> into a bibtex file.
>
> ii.
> TW in essence is a collection of tiddlers and it allows reuse of any piece 
> of information, why not using tiddlers for storing references and then
> by a short script like
> <$list filter="[tag[subject1]]">
>
>
> <$transclude/>
> 
>
>
> display related references?
>
> These just small comments.
>
> I appreciate your work and thank you for sharing it with TW community.
>
> --Mohammad
>
>
> On Sunday, March 10, 2019 at 3:19:35 AM UTC+3:30, Adrian Kee wrote:
>>
>> Dear TiddlyWiki folks,
>>
>> In one of my recent scientific paper, I used TiddlyWiki to present a 
>> collection of publication records in terms of topics.  See tentative link 
>> .
>>
>> I like to hear from fellow TiddlyWiki users on possible ways it can be 
>> improved before I finalized the file for posterity (which can be real 
>> soon). 
>>
>> I also need some help in setting it up for others to find it easily 
>> through Google search. 
>>
>> All comments welcomed. Thanks in advance.
>>
>> adrian :)
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki Use case: Presenting collection of publication records by topics

[S. S.]

Adrian,

For the other question you asked:

>
>> I also need some help in setting it up for others to find it easily 
>> through Google search. 
>>
>>
>>
You may need to use this technique: Generating Static Sites with TiddlyWiki 
 

Get some ideas using this search 

 
, and tweak your search terms for more ideas.

Regards

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki Use case: Presenting collection of publication records by topics

[S. S.]

Adrian,

There is a lot of information in that collection! 

A small input I can give is in these two tiddlers: 4. FAQ about using this 
file (TiddlyWiki) , 5. Personal notes/Collections
Change the word "tick" to either: {{$:/core/images/save-button}} save wiki 
button /or/ {{$:/core/ui/Buttons/save-wiki}} save wiki button

If you look at https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/ you will see that at the 
bottom of every tiddler, there is an ability to add a comment. On that 
pre-release website open the Control Panel, Plugins - and read about the 
*Comments* plugin. It may be useful for those who download and use your 
tiddlywiki.

On a matter of structure, looking at how much detail there is, and how 
methodically it is laid out, I imagine you have this information in a 
spreadsheet/database.

I realize that the below is not going to be something you will do at this 
stage of your work - but it is an idea for when this exercise is done again 
from scratch.

Since I also keep notes of papers/publications with classifications and 
summaries/excerpts - I separate each one in a different tiddler. then 
present it using data that links them.

For example you have the paper: Miller, C.J., & Brooker, B. (2017). 
Mindfulness programming for parents and teachers of children with ADHD.
It is listed under two categories: Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder 
(ADHD) *AND* Parent-children
How would one know this easily?

The below is similar to how I keep my notes.

I have a tiddler tagged *author* for EACH author, so I would have one for 
author Miller *AND* another for author Brooker - example:

title: Brianne A. Brooker
caption: Brooker, B.
description: Department of Psychology, University of Windsor, 
Canada.^^(2017)^^
tags: author psychology

Then I would have a tiddler for their joint publication.
title: Mindfulness programming for parents and teachers of children with 
ADHD
date: 2017
authors: [[Carlin J. Miller]] [[Brianne A. Brooker]]
tags:  publication
doi: 10.1016/j.ctcp.2017.05.015
description: To show pilot data from an investigation of the outcomes of a 
purpose-built mindfulness training for parents and teachers of children 
with ADHD
caption: Mindfulness programming for parents and teachers of children with 
ADHD. //Complementary Therapies in Clinical Practice//

These three tiddlers could be re-used anywhere, any time, in any context. 
Also the bodies (text fields) of the tiddlers can easily list anything that 
references them (which answers the question above as to how would one 
easily know a singe publication was listed in different categories).

The next would be your actual reference entry as you have put together in 
your project - this is what will be listed in each category.

You would need a tiddler for the entry that shows the specific part of this 
publication you are referring to, in this case: *28, 108-115*
For this project I would choose some naming style of entries based on: 
Mindfulness Topic Modeling
title: MTM some naming scheme 0001
source: Mindfulness programming for parents and teachers of children with 
ADHD
reference: 28, 108-115
tags: ADHD Parent-children

You now have all the pieces needed to build the entry and list it in the 
right categories: ADHD *&* Parent-children
Miller, C.J., & Brooker, B. (2017). Mindfulness programming for parents and 
teachers of children with ADHD. *Complementary Therapies in Clinical 
Practice, 28*, 108-115. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.ctcp.2017.05.015

Cheers!

On Sunday, March 10, 2019 at 6:49:35 AM UTC+7, Adrian Kee wrote:
>
> Dear TiddlyWiki folks,
>
> In one of my recent scientific paper, I used TiddlyWiki to present a 
> collection of publication records in terms of topics.  See tentative link 
> .
>
> I like to hear from fellow TiddlyWiki users on possible ways it can be 
> improved before I finalized the file for posterity (which can be real 
> soon). 
>
> I also need some help in setting it up for others to find it easily 
> through Google search. 
>
> All comments welcomed. Thanks in advance.
>
> adrian :)
>

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki Use case: Presenting collection of publication records by topics

[Mohammad]

Hi Adrian,
 Great work! 

Minor comments
i.
I see a lot of publication has been used and listed in different tiddlers, 
my question is, did you typed all of these references manually or
you have used a reference manager to do that?

As you know, BibTeX plugin is an official one can help to import the 
references from bibtex library and website like
ScienceDirect has the possibility to export and save searched articles into 
a bibtex file.

ii.
TW in essence is a collection of tiddlers and it allows reuse of any piece 
of information, why not using tiddlers for storing references and then
by a short script like
<$list filter="[tag[subject1]]">


<$transclude/>



display related references?

These just small comments.

I appreciate your work and thank you for sharing it with TW community.

--Mohammad


On Sunday, March 10, 2019 at 3:19:35 AM UTC+3:30, Adrian Kee wrote:
>
> Dear TiddlyWiki folks,
>
> In one of my recent scientific paper, I used TiddlyWiki to present a 
> collection of publication records in terms of topics.  See tentative link 
> .
>
> I like to hear from fellow TiddlyWiki users on possible ways it can be 
> improved before I finalized the file for posterity (which can be real 
> soon). 
>
> I also need some help in setting it up for others to find it easily 
> through Google search. 
>
> All comments welcomed. Thanks in advance.
>
> adrian :)
>

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