[tw5] Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Experience with PlantUML and TW5

2022-08-13 Thread Octavian Petrescu 
This still works in 2022! :) TW FTW :)

On Friday, August 2, 2019 at 4:02:18 AM UTC-4 hexa...@gmail.com wrote:

> It's really a fantastic work! Thanks a lot!
>
> BTW, I'm wondering that is it feasible to render the image via local file 
> "plantuml.jar"?
>
> 在 2016年1月15日星期五 UTC+8下午3:25:25，Tobias Beer写道：
>
>> Hi Brian,
>>  
>>
>>> It looks like it does access the plantuml.com server in order to 
>>> render the image. 
>>>
>>
>> Indeed,
>>  
>>
>>> I didn't look at Tobias' code to see how easy it would be to integrate 
>>> any of the above. 
>>>
>>
>> While there are possibly some similarities,
>> I think the process will be different for other libraries.
>> Having a server do the rendering makes things simpler.
>> For plantuml, I am actually using the image widget under the hood,
>> or an iframe for textual renderings.
>>
>> If a js library created the output,
>> then that would have to be rendered by equivalent
>> widgetry and markup into the dom.
>> The docs are a bit unpolished still,
>> will improve later today.
>>
>> More of a way to create graphs like tiddlymap and 
>>> tidgraph, only with a text based syntax rather than with tiddler 
>>> relationships. 
>>>
>>
>> I think the real interesting parts come about when the two can be 
>> intermingled,
>> as is the case with TiddlyMap and TidGraph.
>>
>> Plantuml does not allow you to click on the image "nodes"
>> to navigate TiddlyWiki.
>>
>> Perhaps Jed could create a basic ui based on his SVG editing tool
>> that would allow creating some sort of invisible svg "overlay",
>> or where you could "highlight" those nodes in your wiki
>> and make the overlay clickable so as to navigate around.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Tobias.
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Experience with PlantUML and TW5

2019-08-02 Thread Terry Chen 
It's really a fantastic work! Thanks a lot!

BTW, I'm wondering that is it feasible to render the image via local file 
"plantuml.jar"?

在 2016年1月15日星期五 UTC+8下午3:25:25，Tobias Beer写道：
>
> Hi Brian,
>  
>
>> It looks like it does access the plantuml.com server in order to 
>> render the image. 
>>
>
> Indeed,
>  
>
>> I didn't look at Tobias' code to see how easy it would be to integrate 
>> any of the above. 
>>
>
> While there are possibly some similarities,
> I think the process will be different for other libraries.
> Having a server do the rendering makes things simpler.
> For plantuml, I am actually using the image widget under the hood,
> or an iframe for textual renderings.
>
> If a js library created the output,
> then that would have to be rendered by equivalent
> widgetry and markup into the dom.
> The docs are a bit unpolished still,
> will improve later today.
>
> More of a way to create graphs like tiddlymap and 
>> tidgraph, only with a text based syntax rather than with tiddler 
>> relationships. 
>>
>
> I think the real interesting parts come about when the two can be 
> intermingled,
> as is the case with TiddlyMap and TidGraph.
>
> Plantuml does not allow you to click on the image "nodes"
> to navigate TiddlyWiki.
>
> Perhaps Jed could create a basic ui based on his SVG editing tool
> that would allow creating some sort of invisible svg "overlay",
> or where you could "highlight" those nodes in your wiki
> and make the overlay clickable so as to navigate around.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Tobias.
>

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Experience with PlantUML and TW5

2016-01-17 Thread Anibal Caceres Hernando 
Hi Tobias,
Yes, your proposal to send theinfo about both plugins to plantuml people is
ok for me.
Thanks!!
Kind regards,

Aníbal.


On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 6:59 AM, Tobias Beer  wrote:

> Hi Anibal,
>
>
>> Well done, Tobias, thank you very much!!
>>
>
> Thank you. At first the plantuml plantuml looked somewhat plain. But,
> exploring a bit, it appears to cater for quite a lot of modeling and all
> that with a nice, readable syntax. I like that a lot.
>
>
>> This is Aníbal, author of the PlantUml plugin for TiddlyWiki Classic.
>>
>
> Cool stuff! I'm a bit amazed that I have not come across your plugin yet.
> Now that TiddlySpace is closing up shop,
> I'll be moving http://customize.tiddlyspace.com
> ...and will add a reference to your PlantUML plugin in the process.
>
>
>> Richard asked me yesterday about updating the plugin for TW5, and I was
>> going to have a look at it, and see how to build a plugin for TW5, and now
>> what I find is that you've already done the work, which is very nice :).
>>
>
> I'll do a little more polishing. If you have anything else in mind, since
> you've done a similar thing and perhaps stumbled over similar blocks /
> wishes, feedback is sure welcome.
>
>
>> I'll link your plugin from mine's page, so if people find it, will know a
>> version for TW 5 exists.
>>
>
> Great!
>
>
>> Also, would be good if you inform PlantUML people about it, so they can
>> link it from their site.
>>
>
> Will do. Is it ok for you if I asked them to put the links to both plugins
> like this:
>
> Integrate it with TiddlyWiki
>  (or TiddlyWiki classic
> )
>
> at http://plantuml.com/running.html?
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Tobias Beer.
>
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Experience with PlantUML and TW5

2016-01-14 Thread Brian Theado 
On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 5:10 PM, Mat  wrote:
> @Tobias - forgive me if it is obvious but what does "Render plantuml
> diagrams online" mean? Can it not be used offline? Is it somehow connected
> to the PlantUML servers?

It looks like it does access the plantuml.com server in order to
render the image.

There are several libraries which perform similar functionality
client-side only:

https://bramp.github.io/js-sequence-diagrams/
http://knsv.github.io/mermaid/sequenceDiagram.html
http://www.nomnoml.com/

I didn't look at Tobias' code to see how easy it would be to integrate
any of the above.

Also of related interest: http://mdaines.github.io/viz.js/ - this one
is not UML, but rather a javascript implementation of
http://graphviz.org. More of a way to create graphs like tiddlymap and
tidgraph, only with a text based syntax rather than with tiddler
relationships.

Brian

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Experience with PlantUML and TW5

2016-01-14 Thread Tobias Beer 
Hi Brian,
 

> It looks like it does access the plantuml.com server in order to 
> render the image. 
>

Indeed,
 

> I didn't look at Tobias' code to see how easy it would be to integrate 
> any of the above. 
>

While there are possibly some similarities,
I think the process will be different for other libraries.
Having a server do the rendering makes things simpler.
For plantuml, I am actually using the image widget under the hood,
or an iframe for textual renderings.

If a js library created the output,
then that would have to be rendered by equivalent
widgetry and markup into the dom.
The docs are a bit unpolished still,
will improve later today.

More of a way to create graphs like tiddlymap and 
> tidgraph, only with a text based syntax rather than with tiddler 
> relationships. 
>

I think the real interesting parts come about when the two can be 
intermingled,
as is the case with TiddlyMap and TidGraph.

Plantuml does not allow you to click on the image "nodes"
to navigate TiddlyWiki.

Perhaps Jed could create a basic ui based on his SVG editing tool
that would allow creating some sort of invisible svg "overlay",
or where you could "highlight" those nodes in your wiki
and make the overlay clickable so as to navigate around.

Best wishes,

Tobias.

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Experience with PlantUML and TW5

2016-01-14 Thread Alex Hough 
Tobias,

Fantastic


Alex

On 14 January 2016 at 21:07, Anibal Caceres Hernando <
anibal.cace...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> Well done, Tobias, thank you very much!!
> This is Aníbal, author of the PlantUml plugin for TiddlyWiki Classic.
> Richard asked me yesterday about updating the plugin for TW5, and I was
> going to have a look at it, and see how to build a plugin for TW5, and now
> what I find is that you've already done the work, which is very nice :).
> I'll link your plugin from mine's page, so if people find it, will know a
> version for TW 5 exists. Also, would be good if you inform PlantUML people
> about it, so they can link it from their site.
> Thanks again!!
> Kind regards,
>
> Aníbal Cáceres.
>
> El jueves, 14 de enero de 2016, 20:05:14 (UTC+1), Tobias Beer escribió:
>>
>> Well, let's do it this way:
>> Here's a "sneak preview" 0.5.0 Beta  version of
>> tobibeer/plantuml :
>>
>> http://tobibeer.github.io/tw5-plugins/#plantuml
>>
>> Gotta say, I like this stuff, despite the dependency ;-)
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Tobias.
>>
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