[time-nuts] Home NTP ? GPS Clock s/w
Can anyone suggest how to setup a 'home' NTP server under windows (useing WAMP or similar). This is just for use on a home LAN. Please no linux suggestions as I know they exist. Also does anyone know a good (free) GPS clock for windows (synced to com port or NTP server) Thanks Ray, VK4TFT __ Win 1 of 4 Sony home entertainment packs thanks to Yahoo!7. Enter now: http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset/ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Home NTP ? GPS Clock s/w
Ray, For a simple solution with WinDoze machines take a look at Tardis 2000 at http://www.kaska.demon.co.uk as a possible approach. Tardis can get NTP time from the internet or use a GPS NEMA message to sync the time server and reboadcast NTP on your local LAN. The K9 client can be used on the other machines to keep them in sync. Its free to try with no nag screens so the price is right. Richard Can anyone suggest how to setup a 'home' NTP server under windows (useing WAMP or similar). This is just for use on a home LAN. Please no linux suggestions as I know they exist. Also does anyone know a good (free) GPS clock for windows (synced to com port or NTP server) Thanks Ray, VK4TFT __ Win 1 of 4 Sony home entertainment packs thanks to Yahoo!7. Enter now: http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset/ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Home NTP ? GPS Clock s/w
hudson...@yahoo.com.au said: Can anyone suggest how to setup a 'home' NTP server under windows (useing WAMP or similar). This is just for use on a home LAN. I know nothing about Windows. The standard ntp package runs on windows. Meinberg compiles it and wraps it in an installer. http://www.meinberg.de/english/sw/ntp.htm Also does anyone know a good (free) GPS clock for windows (synced to com port or NTP server) What level of accuracy are you looking for? You can get free servers over the net. Your ISP may offer a NTP server. The pool is what most people use. http://www.pool.ntp.org/en/use.html http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Servers/NTPPoolServers If you want better time, a local GPS clock is the usual answer. The Garmin GPS 18 is popular. Under $100, some assembly required. http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Support/ConfiguringGarminRefclocks -- These are my opinions, not necessarily my employer's. I hate spam. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
[time-nuts] Efratom LPRO101 in a Tek TM500 plug-in housing?
Yes, I have built one. I mounted the LPRO on an L shaped piece of aluminum .065 sheet the width of the LPRO. The large end of the L is bolted to the LPRO baseplate and TM500 prototyping module circuit board with threaded standoffs (jack screws) The small end of the L is bolted to the TM500 module top plate with 12 countersunk screws and thermal compound. There are two very small and thin fans mounted on the back of the TM500 circuit board on small standoffs. They blow towards the baseplate (though the holes in the prototyping board). _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
[time-nuts] Trimble GPS lock light
HelloWe're new to the list, thank you for extending membership to us Question: some gps receivers mentioned here ( like the Z3801A) have a panel lock LED to indicate when the thing is locked onto satelites. What about the trimble thunderbolt that is also apparently popular ? Is there some indication (other than software which we have no intention of using) of satelite lock ? Thank You Kiss-Electronics Ms Ashley Hall Cornelius, Oregon W7DUZ = ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
[time-nuts] LPRO in TM500
Dave, I have in the past installed a number of FRSC and also PRS10 into single slot TM500 modules. If I remember correctly I used a thick (about 1/8) aluminum plate most of the length of the module as the mounting and heat sink. The edge of the plate was attached to the module with screws and aluminum angle brackets to allow the top and bottom of the module to also help with the heat sinking. They all worked fine. If you use a dual wide module you will have more room to work with and maybe could used a finned heat sink. The edge connector used was one from a guy on ebay that made custom ones to use with TM500 Modules. You just screw it into place in the module using the existing holes. For power I paralleled the two 25VAC windings, fed them thru a full wave bridge into a largish capacitor, and then into a regulator set for 22VDC. The regulator is isolated with a silpad and bolted to the top frame of the module. The 10Mhz output is on the front along with a lock LED. Hope this helps. Corby Dawson Weight Loss Program Best Weight Loss Program - Click Here! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=EcIysG6hvgWbo9Au-LXB8wAAJ1ABLZFyqoH-WnHH1GJ345whAAYAAADNAAAEUgA= ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Home NTP ? GPS Clock s/w
There's a windows package called NMEATime which is fairly cheap. It will accept input via serial port from just about any GPS receiver which speaks standard NMEA sentences, and it will use that to sync up the PC's clock. It will also act as an NTP time server, and it'll even generate a modulated IRIG-B signal using the system's sound card. http://www.visualgps.net/NMEATime/ Happy timing. *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 08-Nov-09 at 00:44 Ray Hudson wrote: Can anyone suggest how to setup a 'home' NTP server under windows (useing WAMP or similar). This is just for use on a home LAN. Please no linux suggestions as I know they exist. Also does anyone know a good (free) GPS clock for windows (synced to com port or NTP server) Thanks Ray, VK4TFT __ Win 1 of 4 Sony home entertainment packs thanks to Yahoo!7. Enter now: http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset/ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4584 (20091108) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner Head Hardware Heavy, Blue Feather Technologies -- http://www.bluefeathertech.com kyrrin (at) bluefeathertech do/t c=o=m Quid Malmborg in Plano... ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 64, Issue 14
Bill, et al. It's Sunday in Ohio and, as I ate my toast with the rising sun, humming along with Sibelius, I did a few more tests using your Z axis suggestion - Thanks! I tapped Channel 1 (the Trimble GPSDO) and routed its signal to the Z input. I made a recording of the pattern (two complete rotations, 720 degrees of shift.) It is stored here: http://members.toast.net/mark.amos/Trimble Z axis.mov I also tried tapping Channel 2 for the Z input (again, recording two complete rotations:) http://members.toast.net/mark.amos.LPRO Z axis.mov (These are huge files.) Using dual-trace mode on the scope, the direction of the LPRO sinusoid is clear compared to the stationary Trimble sinusoid (not recorded.) The when I ran these tests yesterday (measuring 182 seconds for 360 degress) it was with a homebrew GPSDO. However, subsequent runs showed poor irreproducibility of the results indicating that the homebrew unit might not a very stable source - so I switched to the Trimble for succeeding measurements, which have been very consistent. I may not have noticed the homebrew GPSDO problem if I hadn't compared it to the LPRO in these tests. Obviously, for most of you, this is pretty basic stuff, but these visual aids are useful for me to get an intuitive feel for the underlying phenomena. It will be interesting to watch the changes over time. Mark -- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 18:08:59 -0600 From: Bill Hawkins b...@iaxs.net Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Calculating frequency differences using Lissajoufigures To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' time-nuts@febo.com Message-ID: 0ab667aca96f44819a8255af686c3...@cyrus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Well, it's 5 PM in Minneapolis, so I joined my wife on the deck to toast the vanishing sun. Didn't sing any Jimmy Buffet songs, though. But, to the matter at hand. If your Lissajous pattern scope has a Z input for intensity modulation, drive it with one of the 10 MHz sources. The direction of rotation will be obvious, as the intensified portion chases its way around the pattern. Then again, maybe you need to phase shift one of the signals 90 degrees, apply the straight and shifted versions of the same signal to X and Y so you get a circle, and then apply the other signal to the Z input. That would not be a Lissajous figure, though. You would still need to observe any changes, unless you are certain that the frequency difference will maintain the same sign. I guess that's what drives people to buy GPIB interface cards and spend hours making the whole thing work correctly. Bill Hawkins ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 64, Issue 14
There was a typo in the message below the second recording link should be: http://members.toast.net/mark.amos/LPRO Z axis.mov -Original Message- From: Mark Amos [mailto:m...@amos-family.com] Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 12:58 PM To: 'time-nuts@febo.com' Subject: RE: time-nuts Digest, Vol 64, Issue 14 Bill, et al. It's Sunday in Ohio and, as I ate my toast with the rising sun, humming along with Sibelius, I did a few more tests using your Z axis suggestion - Thanks! I tapped Channel 1 (the Trimble GPSDO) and routed its signal to the Z input. I made a recording of the pattern (two complete rotations, 720 degrees of shift.) It is stored here: http://members.toast.net/mark.amos/Trimble Z axis.mov I also tried tapping Channel 2 for the Z input (again, recording two complete rotations:) http://members.toast.net/mark.amos.LPRO Z axis.mov (These are huge files.) Using dual-trace mode on the scope, the direction of the LPRO sinusoid is clear compared to the stationary Trimble sinusoid (not recorded.) The when I ran these tests yesterday (measuring 182 seconds for 360 degress) it was with a homebrew GPSDO. However, subsequent runs showed poor irreproducibility of the results indicating that the homebrew unit might not a very stable source - so I switched to the Trimble for succeeding measurements, which have been very consistent. I may not have noticed the homebrew GPSDO problem if I hadn't compared it to the LPRO in these tests. Obviously, for most of you, this is pretty basic stuff, but these visual aids are useful for me to get an intuitive feel for the underlying phenomena. It will be interesting to watch the changes over time. Mark -- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 18:08:59 -0600 From: Bill Hawkins b...@iaxs.net Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Calculating frequency differences using Lissajoufigures To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' time-nuts@febo.com Message-ID: 0ab667aca96f44819a8255af686c3...@cyrus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Well, it's 5 PM in Minneapolis, so I joined my wife on the deck to toast the vanishing sun. Didn't sing any Jimmy Buffet songs, though. But, to the matter at hand. If your Lissajous pattern scope has a Z input for intensity modulation, drive it with one of the 10 MHz sources. The direction of rotation will be obvious, as the intensified portion chases its way around the pattern. Then again, maybe you need to phase shift one of the signals 90 degrees, apply the straight and shifted versions of the same signal to X and Y so you get a circle, and then apply the other signal to the Z input. That would not be a Lissajous figure, though. You would still need to observe any changes, unless you are certain that the frequency difference will maintain the same sign. I guess that's what drives people to buy GPIB interface cards and spend hours making the whole thing work correctly. Bill Hawkins ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Efratom LPRO101 in a Tek TM500 plug-in housing?
Early TM500 mainframes (TM503) did not have a high power compartment. This might be the reason for Ball's design choice. -John === I have a PTB-100 that was made by Ball/Efratom. This is in a two wide TM-500 plugin. It is mounted in the far left slots in a TM-506 frame. If it were me, I would mount it in the far right slots and pick up power from the high power slot. This slot is also directly in front of the fan in the TM-506 frame. Just my observations from a commercial product. 73 Glenn WB4UIV At 08:23 PM 11/7/2009, you wrote: Has anyone built a LPRO-101 into one of these plugin housings? I'm toying with the idea, but don't want to reinvent the wheel. My biggest concern is getting rid of the heat. -Dave ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Trimble GPS lock light
Take a look at this: http://www.ko4bb.com/Timing/GPSMonitor/ Stanley - Original Message From: ashle...@aol.com ashle...@aol.com To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Sun, November 8, 2009 10:50:01 AM Subject: [time-nuts] Trimble GPS lock light HelloWe're new to the list, thank you for extending membership to us Question: some gps receivers mentioned here ( like the Z3801A) have a panel lock LED to indicate when the thing is locked onto satelites. What about the trimble thunderbolt that is also apparently popular ? Is there some indication (other than software which we have no intention of using) of satelite lock ? Thank You Kiss-Electronics Ms Ashley Hall Cornelius, Oregon W7DUZ = ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 64, Issue 14
Dear Mark, Mark Amos wrote: The when I ran these tests yesterday (measuring 182 seconds for 360 degress) it was with a homebrew GPSDO. However, subsequent runs showed poor irreproducibility of the results indicating that the homebrew unit might not a very stable source - so I switched to the Trimble for succeeding measurements, which have been very consistent. I may not have noticed the homebrew GPSDO problem if I hadn't compared it to the LPRO in these tests. Obviously, for most of you, this is pretty basic stuff, but these visual aids are useful for me to get an intuitive feel for the underlying phenomena. It will be interesting to watch the changes over time. Recall that 1/f types of noises does not average well over time, so there will be some walking around in phase. All to keep us on our toes a little more. It is natural of feedback oscillators. Cheers, Magnus ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Trimble GPS lock light
-Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Stanley Reynolds Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 1:14 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Trimble GPS lock light Take a look at this: http://www.ko4bb.com/Timing/GPSMonitor/ Stanley - Original Message From: ashle...@aol.com ashle...@aol.com To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Sun, November 8, 2009 10:50:01 AM Subject: [time-nuts] Trimble GPS lock light HelloWe're new to the list, thank you for extending membership to us Question: some gps receivers mentioned here ( like the Z3801A) have a panel lock LED to indicate when the thing is locked onto satelites. What about the trimble thunderbolt that is also apparently popular ? Is there some indication (other than software which we have no intention of using) of satelite lock ? Thank You Kiss-Electronics Ms Ashley Hall Cornelius, Oregon W7DUZ = ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Trimble GPS lock light
Regarding the GPS Monitor, I have received a couple of requests for an LED indicating lock. That is easy to do, but I am fairly busy at the moment (a deadline by Thanksgiving, if I am done by then...) So if you want me to do it, it will probably be around Christmas before I have much time at all. Alternately, the software is available, it uses the free SDCC compiler and the free Silabs IDE, all you need is a Silabs JTAG adapter, which can be bought for about $25 or so (debug adapter and toolstick base) and you can write/modify the software. If anyone feels like playing with it, send me an email. Didier KO4BB -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Stanley Reynolds Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 1:14 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Trimble GPS lock light Take a look at this: http://www.ko4bb.com/Timing/GPSMonitor/ Stanley - Original Message From: ashle...@aol.com ashle...@aol.com To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Sun, November 8, 2009 10:50:01 AM Subject: [time-nuts] Trimble GPS lock light HelloWe're new to the list, thank you for extending membership to us Question: some gps receivers mentioned here ( like the Z3801A) have a panel lock LED to indicate when the thing is locked onto satelites. What about the trimble thunderbolt that is also apparently popular ? Is there some indication (other than software which we have no intention of using) of satelite lock ? Thank You Kiss-Electronics Ms Ashley Hall Cornelius, Oregon W7DUZ = ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Trimble GPS lock light
Here is a lock indicator that I incorporated into the N1JEZ GPSDO I built. Not sure if it can be used on the T-Bolt or not. Don't see why it cannot be used. 73, Dick, W1KSZ http://www.ham-radio.com/wa6vhs/GPS/3DFix%20LED%20only%20with%20pics%20_4_.pdf -Original Message- From: Didier Juges did...@cox.net Sent: Nov 8, 2009 8:01 PM To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Trimble GPS lock light -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Stanley Reynolds Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 1:14 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Trimble GPS lock light Take a look at this: http://www.ko4bb.com/Timing/GPSMonitor/ Stanley - Original Message From: ashle...@aol.com ashle...@aol.com To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Sun, November 8, 2009 10:50:01 AM Subject: [time-nuts] Trimble GPS lock light HelloWe're new to the list, thank you for extending membership to us Question: some gps receivers mentioned here ( like the Z3801A) have a panel lock LED to indicate when the thing is locked onto satelites. What about the trimble thunderbolt that is also apparently popular ? Is there some indication (other than software which we have no intention of using) of satelite lock ? Thank You Kiss-Electronics Ms Ashley Hall Cornelius, Oregon W7DUZ = ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Trimble GPS lock light
The Thunderbolt sends TSIP messages, not NMEA messages. If your lock indicator understands the TSIP protocol, then of course it will work. Otherwise, probably not. From the pdf file you included in your message, it looks like it is NMEA only. The TSIP protocol is not complicated (just slightly more so than NMEA messages because of the escape sequences), and all the details can be found on the TSIP spec from Trimble, or if you just want the basics, you can use the decoder I wrote for my GPS Monitor project. It's open source. Didier KO4BB -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Richard W. Solomon Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 7:39 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Trimble GPS lock light Here is a lock indicator that I incorporated into the N1JEZ GPSDO I built. Not sure if it can be used on the T-Bolt or not. Don't see why it cannot be used. 73, Dick, W1KSZ http://www.ham-radio.com/wa6vhs/GPS/3DFix%20LED%20only%20with% 20pics%20_4_.pdf -Original Message- From: Didier Juges did...@cox.net Sent: Nov 8, 2009 8:01 PM To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Trimble GPS lock light -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Stanley Reynolds Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 1:14 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Trimble GPS lock light Take a look at this: http://www.ko4bb.com/Timing/GPSMonitor/ Stanley - Original Message From: ashle...@aol.com ashle...@aol.com To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Sun, November 8, 2009 10:50:01 AM Subject: [time-nuts] Trimble GPS lock light HelloWe're new to the list, thank you for extending membership to us Question: some gps receivers mentioned here ( like the Z3801A) have a panel lock LED to indicate when the thing is locked onto satelites. What about the trimble thunderbolt that is also apparently popular ? Is there some indication (other than software which we have no intention of using) of satelite lock ? Thank You Kiss-Electronics Ms Ashley Hall Cornelius, Oregon W7DUZ = ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
