Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather leap second display

2015-06-24 Thread Tom Harris
Sounds like my sort of party. I went to a similar party, the drinks were
all served in laboratory glassware and the host did his party trick of
drinking liquid nitrogen and rolling it around his mouth so that it did not
burn him, and then spitting it out onto the floor where it immediately
evaporated. He also dipped people's cigarettes in liquid oxygen, this turns
them into miniature firecrackers when lit, all the more fun if they are in
someones mouth at the time! The invites had the time/date in Unix seconds
since 1970.


Tom Harris 

On 24 June 2015 at 05:28, Esa Heikkinen  wrote:

> VK2DAP kirjoitti:
>
>  I am hosting a small party and don't want to look like a dill more than I
>> already do.
>>
>
> Just make sure that UTC time is selected in thunderbolt settings. Check my
> Lady Heather video from 2012, if there's any help for the settings:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbvMZikqtI4
>
> --
> 73s!
> Esa
> OH4KJU
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Re: [time-nuts] magnetic electronic components

2015-06-24 Thread Jim Lux

On 6/23/15 4:02 PM, Tim Shoppa wrote:

Yes, for ferrites, many (all?) of the Amidon FT-xxx parts are perfectly
standard Fair-Rite cores available from full-line distributors like Mouser,
Newark, etc.

Iron powder cores are not stocked by any of the standard distributors that
I know of, but kitsandparts.com has good prices and quick delivery.


Powdered metal.. typically from micrometals.

Lodestone Pacific is one of their distributors.  I've not bought small 
quantities of Micrometals parts from them, though.


(lots of european distributors)




Sometimes Amidon is the best or only place for a particular part.

Good online source on ferrite transformers with measurements and
distributor part numbers: Clifton Labs. e.g.
http://www.cliftonlaboratories.com/ferrites,_inductors_and_transformers.htm

Tim N3QE


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Re: [time-nuts] potential source for cheap copy of labview

2015-06-24 Thread Don Latham
If you'll put an arduino in as a controller, Makerrplot is a really nice
interface, and really cost effective and easy to use.  Can also be used on
'net devices and rs232.  Robot Basic will do rs232 and 'net and is free.
Don

paul swed
> Have the eval license up and operating with the NI simple LED test. It
> works.
> I can easily see how you could use this to create a nice GUI for some sort
> of control project.
> Regards
> Paul
> WB8TSL
>
> On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 6:09 PM, Jim Lux  wrote:
>
>> On 6/21/15 11:28 AM, Don Latham wrote:
>>
>>> Just for fun, went to the site.  $149 for basic, but by the time I added
>>> all
>>> the toolboxes I thought (!) I needed, I was over $750. sigh.
>>> Don
>>>
>>>
>> Hence the popularity of the student license (or Octave)
>>
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[time-nuts] windows and leap seconds

2015-06-24 Thread Jim Lux

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/909614

basically: ignore the leap second, so your computer is "fast" relative 
to UTC, and next time you resynchronize time it adjusts


Windows, these days, runs NTP

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/mthree/archive/2015/01/08/leap-seconds-010815.aspx
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/mthree/archive/2015/01/14/leap-seconds-011415.aspx

for more info
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Re: [time-nuts] windows and leap seconds

2015-06-24 Thread David J Taylor

From: Jim Lux

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/909614

basically: ignore the leap second, so your computer is "fast" relative
to UTC, and next time you resynchronize time it adjusts

Windows, these days, runs NTP

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/mthree/archive/2015/01/08/leap-seconds-010815.aspx
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/mthree/archive/2015/01/14/leap-seconds-011415.aspx

for more info
___

.. although the NTP run by default meets few of the standard NTP functions, 
as provided by the Meinberg NTP port, which includes smooth leap-second 
handling.


 http://www.meinbergglobal.com/english/sw/ntp.htm#ntp_stable
 http://www.satsignal.eu/ntp/setup.html

Cheer,
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Re: [time-nuts] 53230A noise floor

2015-06-24 Thread Anders Wallin
I finally had time to  compare the 53230A CONT (resolution-enhanced, aka
lambda-counting) and RCON (undocumented! reciprocal continuous counting,
aka pi-counting) modes, and wrote down some notes:
http://www.anderswallin.net/2015/06/cont-vs-rcon-mode-on-the-53230a-frequency-counter/
comments on my notes, here or in the blog, are welcome.

enjoy!
Anders

On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 9:42 PM, Mod Mix  wrote:

> Ole Petter Ronningen:
>
>> Tangetially relevant; I made a "patch" for TimeLab to use the gap-free
>> frequency measurement-mode for the 53230A, if anyone is interested.
>>
> Thanks for this great support!
> Ulli
>
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[time-nuts] Two V(in)s walk into a bar...

2015-06-24 Thread Neil Schroeder
Lets take a hypothetical device, like specifically a PRS10, but could be
any time/freq device like a PLL or an amplifier or all of these.

Isolating power supplies with some dexterity can greatly improve noise
control, and less peformance related, can help us protect very very
expensive circuits from their less bourgeois support ICs.  Many of us may
choose to implement them as modular devices for easy relocation or
replacement.

Main question: if I want to isolate the quiet and noisy power supplies, or
just supply them differently, can they share a common return?

The basic answer has to be yes.  Eventually everything has to get back to
ground, and the Earth itself is a fair equalizer of all things on it.  I
can clearly join analog and digital back at the input supply.  But if I had
them isolated, do those iso grounds have to stay with their iso supplies?

Take the PRS10 - it has two cables for Vin - power and signal supplies -
but only one return cable.  Can i isolate, via transformers couplers what
have you the two supplies yet return the common ground to one or the other?

The signals handle themselves - they each have a ground wire of their own,
or does that handle it ?  Are each of those opportunities for a loop?

I know it'd work with just keeping separate DVcc and AVcc supplies that
join at some point, and then that return can join at the star ground like
everyone else.  If you are designing the module, you can handle the
isolation inside and just have one input supply and return then isolate new
supplies internally and eliminate the second cable.  Or two in vcc, two out
gnd.  Those all make sense.

 I think the single return option on the PRS10 is what's hanging me up
here.

Does isolation offer any real further benefit than AVxx and DVxx that is
even worth pursuing outside the extreme use cases?

Lots of words.  Thanks.

NS
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Re: [time-nuts] windows and leap seconds

2015-06-24 Thread Tom Harris
Hilarious note on the bottom of the document:

 This is a "FAST PUBLISH" article created directly from within the
Microsoft support organization. The information contained herein is
provided as-is in response to emerging issues. As a result of the speed in
making it available, the materials may include typographical errors and may
be revised at any time without notice.

Wasn't the leap second publicised 6 months in advance?


Tom Harris 

On 25 June 2015 at 02:24, David J Taylor 
wrote:

> From: Jim Lux
>
> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/909614
>
> basically: ignore the leap second, so your computer is "fast" relative
> to UTC, and next time you resynchronize time it adjusts
>
> Windows, these days, runs NTP
>
> http://blogs.msdn.com/b/mthree/archive/2015/01/08/leap-seconds-010815.aspx
> http://blogs.msdn.com/b/mthree/archive/2015/01/14/leap-seconds-011415.aspx
>
> for more info
> ___
>
> .. although the NTP run by default meets few of the standard NTP
> functions, as provided by the Meinberg NTP port, which includes smooth
> leap-second handling.
>
>  http://www.meinbergglobal.com/english/sw/ntp.htm#ntp_stable
>  http://www.satsignal.eu/ntp/setup.html
>
> Cheer,
> David
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> SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements
> Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
> Email: david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk
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